Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 06 Nov 2013 11:32

Congress set to return to power in Delhi, reveal internal surveys of party

Sheila Dikshit's Congress has just handed itself a massive victory in the capital fight. Mail Today learns that two internal surveys of the Delhi Congress reveal that it should return to power on December 8, when the Assembly election results are to be declared.

These projections fly in the face of all the recent surveys that have shown a triangular contest, with the BJP and newbie AAP gaining considerably. The Grand Old Party got these back-to-back surveys conducted during the last week of September-early October and in the late October-early November period, and in both the surveys, the Congress has patted its own back. These surveys have predicted a clear victory for the party in the upcoming Assembly elections - 39 out of 70 in the first survey and 42 out 70 in the second.

Aha. Termites have decided to brazen it out perhaps... will peddle fake surveys so that EVM magic can do the rest no doubt...

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 06 Nov 2013 11:42

More 'breaking news'

11.10 am: Shiromani Akali Dal will contest from four constituencies in Delhi Assembly polls in alliance with BJP.

10.25 am: BJP drops 14 MLAs as it announces second list of candidates for MP Assembly polls comprising nine women, 14 SCs and 12 STs.

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Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 06 Nov 2013 12:41

Joy! Clean Kejriwal gives ticket to blackmailer.

http://www.niticentral.com/2013/11/06/k ... 54691.html

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 06 Nov 2013 16:56

http://www.firstpost.com/politics/rahul ... 13793.html

This so called spat between Omar and RG is a contrived one to fool their Jammu Hindus and Valley muslim constituencies and will culiminate later in a post poll alliance.

bhargava · Post by **bhargava** » 06 Nov 2013 17:08

Some interesting connections being revealed about AAP's survey where they predicted "handsome" victory in Delhi elections. It seems one of the authorised signatories of the agency which did the "surveys" is a General Secretary of Delhi Pradesh Congress Committee. More information here

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 06 Nov 2013 18:16

http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/bsy- ... g-bjp.html

Looks like the Ananth kumar and Advani gang will leave no stone unturned to stop Modi from becoming PM.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 06 Nov 2013 19:27

It is Shiela Dikshit vs Vijender Gupta in New Delhi.

http://news.rediff.com/commentary/2013/ ... e70d292a46

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 06 Nov 2013 19:37

muraliravi wrote:http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/bsy- ... g-bjp.html

Looks like the Ananth kumar and Advani gang will leave no stone unturned to stop Modi from becoming PM.

The sticking point, IIRC, was that Yeddy was demanding either the position of the state BJP chief or leader of the opposition in lieu of his return. All in all, there is considerable shadow boxing (on both sides - Yeddy is playing hard to get and demanding a lot, and AK and his group are playing coy and not particularly concerned about Yeddy), MuraliRavi-ji, but Yeddy will return soon. Both sides know they need each other, and both sides are bargaining hard, for the best terms, but Yeddy's return is a done deal. What we are seeing are more theatrics than any substance.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 06 Nov 2013 21:05

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 07 Nov 2013 00:39

What am I looking at in the pic above?

disha · Post by **disha** » 07 Nov 2013 01:10

The crowd and the neta. The "neta" is grafted (photoshopped) into the crowd and the crowd is from NaMo's rally.

VikramS · Post by **VikramS** » 07 Nov 2013 03:24

it seems the pic is not from a modi rally but an event in MP

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Nov 2013 05:12

PP guy says his survey gets BJP 36 seats in Delhi with 35% voteshare.

http://www.politicsparty.com/shownews.php?newsid=285

Interesting he always claims 1+ the halfway mark for his surveys.
So could be cooked up.
has other bombasts about INC and AAP.

niran · Post by **niran** » 07 Nov 2013 08:31

^^^^ the total tallied==70% votes, this begs to ask who the rest of 30% are gonna vote for? if they select "none of the above" option
then it will be mucho interesting, such as in a country known as Thailand, the option none of the above has been there since a decade or so ago
and they have a rule conduct reelection if the none of the above percentage goes above 20% of the polled votes inclusive of bad votes till date they have had to conduct reelection in 3 constituencies with totally new sets of contestants due to that.
the survey figures most probably came from the good editor's mushy, wokay i will stick moi neck out and reveal
bhajap's internal readings says congress have already lost 9% of their core voters to Bhajapa, the public thinks kejariwall as a loony
out to get Sheela Dixshit and around 11% of congress voters gonna vote Kejariwall(mind you it is kejariwall not AAP) that makes 20% of
congress voters less for congress in Sheela Dixisht's home mohalla, in total AAP gonna get no more than 3% of votes in dilli, and to ensure that they remain there and bhajapa
share of pie increases from 9% the old tried and trusted method will be tried, during 50 or 60ies when dilli held its first election then Jansanghi
cadres went house to house almost every day, till the voters began doing sashtaan naman"please, we are gonna vote for you, and please do not show your face again" so now dilli billies, please to be prepared for every day knock on your doors.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 07 Nov 2013 09:14

niran wrote: share of pie increases from 9% the old tried and trusted method will be tried, during 50 or 60ies .

This is very very good. This was what was long overdue. For almost 20 years, this did not happen in Delhi. Great job.

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 07 Nov 2013 11:45

My in-law got calls from Aaj Tak and IBN for the survey. The interview was rigorous which lasted for 20-25 mins. These were the major questions they asked.

1. What do you do?
2. Whom will you vote? and why.
3. What you like about your favorite party?
4. What you don't like about different parties?
5. Whom did you vote last time?
6. Who will win your constituency this time per you?

What puzzled me is that how come both Aaj Tak and IBN contacted the same person? Not only that, they asked roughly same questions. What is the method to pick interviewees? FYI, my in-law runs a restaurant and not even remotely connected to politics.
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Niran ji, what do you think about Amethi and Rae Bareli this time?

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 07 Nov 2013 11:46

Congress on suicide path in MP amid factional battles

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 07 Nov 2013 11:48

kapil Ji,

Even I have received calls from India TV and other news sites. Calls last 20-25 minutes and are quite exhaustive. The last call I received was focused on the candidature of NaMo, and the history of 2002 along with its importance, for me as a voter.

niran · Post by **niran** » 07 Nov 2013 12:32

kapilrdave wrote: Niran ji, what do you think about Amethi and Rae Bareli this time?

me is Niran am not ji

Amethi is Thakurow ka garh with the supposed head of Ametheia clan sanjoy singh a congressi
but during last 2009 election his asli SHQ came out with her side of the horror story about sanjoy babu
hand in the murder of badminton champion and his subsequent second marriage with the said player fiancee
forcing sanjoy singh to fold his dhoti and run off to contest election from Sultanpur, according to the vineyard
Amethi people has sent in a written demand to NaMo to contest the election from Amethi(but almost all of UP is doing that)
there are talks ongoing for the asli Queen to contest on BJP tikits and if that happens then all indication are Amethi will be wrested from
Cangress the situ is fluid, let us wait and see, Rae barely moi will have to spend some moolah on phonuwa will post here the result later.

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 07 Nov 2013 14:07

NM should contest from one seat each from every single state to show indiscrimination

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Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 07 Nov 2013 14:41

niran garu,

I'm told BJP's big weakness in UP is Purvanchal - that there the org is nonexistent, the modi wave invisible and that its a fight between SP-BSP only... what is the ground situ there?

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 07 Nov 2013 14:47

kapilrdave wrote:NM should contest from one seat each from every single state to show indiscrimination .

is it possible legally?

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 07 Nov 2013 15:08

Why not? Leaders already contest from 2-3 seats.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 07 Nov 2013 15:10

2, 3 yes.. 29?? would be fun..

not 29, but one seat in every state with more than 20 loksabha seats.

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 07 Nov 2013 15:12

Although one thing I don't know is that what would be his weightage in lok sabha in terms of number of votes. Would it count as one or multiple?

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 07 Nov 2013 15:41

Atri wrote:2, 3 yes.. 29?? would be fun..

not 29, but one seat in every state with more than 20 loksabha seats.

AP, Bihar, GJ, Ktaka, KL, MP, MH, Orissa, Raj, TN, UP, WB = 12 seats. But not worth it if he will be counted as one in LS.

niran · Post by **niran** » 07 Nov 2013 15:46

Hari Seldon guruji wrote:niran garu,

I'm told BJP's big weakness in UP is Purvanchal - that there the org is nonexistent, the modi wave invisible and that its a fight between SP-BSP only... what is the ground situ there?

must be some congressi high on potent grass feeding you this, even during 2009 when Bhajapa was almost routed from UP it was
Purvanchal with the most voters for Bhajapa, Purvanchal BTW is Jaunpur, Ellahabad, Mirzapur, Sonebhadra, Azamgarh, Gorakhpur,
Sonauli, Basti, Gonda, Bahraich, Deoria, Maharajganj, Balia, Chandauli, Gazipur,Sant Kabirnagar, Kushinagar,Mau and of course the one and onree Benaras.
Benaras has Murli babu as one of the sitting MP, people have demanded either NaMo or Varun Gandhi for Benaras East, lets see
who contests, but apart from Jaunpur, Ellahabad,Mau,Azamgarh(particularly the town area) and to some extent Mirzapur data shows clean sweep for bhajapa, one may ask then what happened in UP Vidhan Sabha elections, one must remember the original plan
was for NaMo Varun Gandhi and Uma Bharti to work as Trident for election campaign which was lost in translation, then the Goonda faction created the DP yadav fiasco and rest is as they say is history. currently the goonda faction has been eliminated, Swami Yoginath
has regained the upper hand, Thakur families and thakurs from most royal families have allied with Bhajapa, the so called middle class
is overwhelmingly Idol worshipers, their womenfolks are firmly behind NaMo, among the menfolks those between 40-50 are still on the fence. those above 50 and below 40 are overwhelmingly pro NaMo, the people from the lower strata have been unprecedentedly
bitten by NaMo bug regardless of gender or age, that is why it is called TsuNaMo.

kumarn · Post by **kumarn** » 07 Nov 2013 16:07

^^^ I got a very different picture when I visited ghazipur a few days back. Friends and family (all hard-core bhajpa) were lamenting that people will still vote along caste lines, inspite of modi, and the fight is between sapa-baspa as usual.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 07 Nov 2013 17:07

Atri wrote:
kapilrdave wrote:NM should contest from one seat each from every single state to show indiscrimination .
is it possible legally?

2 seats max and even that is likely to be scrapped soon.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 07 Nov 2013 20:38

Delhi assembly elections is a psephologists nightmare with AAP getting anywhere between 8 to 25 seats.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 07 Nov 2013 20:45

Supratik wrote:Delhi assembly elections is a psephologists nightmare with AAP getting anywhere between 8 to 25 seats.

Either that or whole story of a single seat is bogus.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 07 Nov 2013 21:26

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/indi ... 22082.html

BJP to retain Madhya Pradesh and Chhattisgarh, to wrest Delhi and Rajasthan from Congress

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 07 Nov 2013 21:28

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/indi ... 22085.html

In Delhi, the BJP's choice of Dr Harsh Vardhan as the paty's chief ministerial nominee over Vijay Goel seems a masterstroke in retrospect, which has given the party an edge over all others. The India Today Group-ORG opinion poll shows BJP is poised to win the elections with 36 of the 70 seats.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 07 Nov 2013 21:29

IBN and Timesnow polls show hung assembly in Delhi.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 07 Nov 2013 22:03

Supratik wrote:IBN and Timesnow polls show hung assembly in Delhi.

Anyone who shows AAP getting more than 10 seats in Delhi is lying. Its just not possible.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Nov 2013 22:18

Supratik, Hence the dilemma. Its close in Delhi.
I want Sheila Aunty to go retire so others (dharmics) can take the reins.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 07 Nov 2013 22:34

The India Today ORG poll(which gives thin edge to BJP over Italian Congress, it is touch and go) is probably more real than CNN IBN (which predicts BJP winning big time over Italian Congress), that's why Modi doing meeting in spite of considerable risks to himself. CNN-IBN were unable to fool the BJP party leaders with fake survey, they may try to fool the general public, wonder how many in CH watch these guys.
The FORD congress however is helping Italian Congress against the Bhartiya party. Most of Italian Congress losses should have gone to Bhartiya than Ford.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 07 Nov 2013 23:06

fanne wrote:The FORD congress however is helping Italian Congress against the Bhartiya party. Most of Italian Congress losses should have gone to Bhartiya than Ford.

Great one! FORD Congress! Needs to be propagated over SM!

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 08 Nov 2013 01:01

In Delhi, AK has saturated, BJP is warming up with the good Doctor just starting to spint.

it might go BJP way to simple majority unless sheila and fordiwal gang up.

AK is the only known one in aap. the local candidates are non entities in aap.

good doctor has to ensure a clean effective campaign with no differences within the party.(more damaging than outside)