Bharat Rakshak

To put things in perspective

Armed Conflicts Report - Andhra Pradesh

"The leftist insurgency has cost more than 4,500 lives in Andhra Pradesh since 1990, according to the South Asia Intelligence Review." [The Christian Science Monitor, October 29, 2003]

"According to police, during the last ten years, the PWG and other extremist groups killed as many as 1,960 people, including 1,615 civilians and 345 policeman in the state. ... During the last ten years, 932 naxals were killed in encounters." [The Hindustan Times, January 14, 2000]

"Statistics of Naxalite violence in the new guerrilla zone showed a sharp increase. Till August end there were as many as 27 murders (including killing of 17 policemen) and 36 other offences while last year there were only six murders (including killing of one policeman) and 36 other offences; in 1995, 13 murders and 27 other offences took place. In 1994, the PWG violence was negligible." ["AP police gearing up as Naxals open new front," R Akhileshwari, DH News Service, Hyderabad, September 8, 1997]

This is the cost of Naxalism just in Andhra Pradesh. Assuming a $3000 Per capita PPP-GDP and a 30 yr remaining lifespan, each life is worth $40,000 to Indian economy. 4,500 lives translate to $180 millions not including the intangible suffering caused on various tribal groups, decelerating affect on the economy, and impact on the families of the killed.

Extrapolating this to 10 states will make the Maoism-naxalism's direct impact on Indian economy alone is around $1.8 billion over 18 years. I would put the indirect impact at least 20-30 times of that figure = $30-$50B, losing ~30-40,000 lives. It is no less than a nuke attack on Indian soil.

brihaspati wrote:K and Y belong to the same faction. Y is from the North, and therefore comes from a "weaker" background compared to the "southern lobby". He cannot fight it out organizationally, and hence will toe the K line. This is simply posturing to gain maxium concessions from the Southern lobby given the recent farce put up by K. The BB (WB-CM) group could have lent some support, but they are preoccupied and prestige gone down a bit.

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West Bengal, Jharkhand police discuss simultaneous operations
Wednesday, Jul 15, 2009
http://www.thehindu.com/2009/07/15/stor ... 971000.htm
KOLKATA: A high-level meeting of senior officials of both the West Bengal and Jharkhand police was held at Purulia town in Purulia district on Tuesday to discuss simultaneous operations against Maoists in both the States.


Tough days ahead for jholawallas and their supporters in over-ground outfits who preach "human rights organisations must remain unreasonable”

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS ... 779776.cms

The home minister said he was in close touch with chief ministers of the Naxal-affected states and would hold a meeting with them in August to discuss ways to counter Left-wing extremism.

State-level plans are being drawn so that they can be integrated with the Centre's plan, he said.

"Regrettably for many years we did not properly assess the threat posed by Left-wing extremism. We under-estimated the challenge and in the meanwhile they (Naxalites) extended their influence," he said.

Realizing one's own shortcomings is a good beginning in tackling the issues at hand...

There is no substitute for building up local police capacities for CI.

another good one from Pravin Swami.

Inconsistencies yet on our strategies. PC is sending the right messages on Kashmir, asking for more local police. But on Naxalites, the strategy seems to be what is past its sell by date in Kashmir - get more CRPF!

The big examples of success in our anti-Naxal efforts have been the recent one in AP and the earlier one in WB. Both have been based on a local police-led effort. Unfortunately, states (and centre it seems) have taken the wrong lessons out of the AP success - "get the commandos in". The PA success has been only partially as a result of the Greyhounds, the bigger efforts have been to beef up policing capacities.

Setting up a CRPF "empire", with its own intel setup etc will only add more spaggetti to the salad bowl we already have of security agencies. To fight Naxals in Dantewada, what you really need are policemen who are locals of Dantewada but adequately trained and equipped..A CRPF platoon, manned by "outsiders", is going to be useful for specific focsed tasks, but not the gruelling, grinding CI effort of gathering intel, targeting the local honchos, prising them out through a mix of incentives etc etc...

somnath wrote:IThe big examples of success in our anti-Naxal efforts have been the recent one in AP and the earlier one in WB. Both have been based on a local police-led effort.

Agree with you there. I think PC should also clearly tell the states which have this naxalite issue, that this it their baby first and foremost and central govt. can give assistance. The Central Govt., should ask the respective state governments to shape up their police forces instead of always crying for help from the centre. Even in Kerala, during the naxalite menace a few decades back the approach was i) Local police, CB CID to do surveillance, intel gathering and hounding of naxalites in urban areas ii)Companies from CRPF would do combing operations and patrolling of forest areas (like in Thirunelli,Wayanad), with local police also helping them with information etc.

somnath wrote:There is no substitute for building up local police capacities for CI.

another good one from Pravin Swami.

somnath wrote:Inconsistencies yet on our strategies. PC is sending the right messages on Kashmir, asking for more local police. But on Naxalites, the strategy seems to be what is past its sell by date in Kashmir - get more CRPF!

The big examples of success in our anti-Naxal efforts have been the recent one in AP and the earlier one in WB. Both have been based on a local police-led effort. Unfortunately, states (and centre it seems) have taken the wrong lessons out of the AP success - "get the commandos in". The PA success has been only partially as a result of the Greyhounds, the bigger efforts have been to beef up policing capacities.

Setting up a CRPF "empire", with its own intel setup etc will only add more spaggetti to the salad bowl we already have of security agencies. To fight Naxals in Dantewada, what you really need are policemen who are locals of Dantewada but adequately trained and equipped..A CRPF platoon, manned by "outsiders", is going to be useful for specific focsed tasks, but not the gruelling, grinding CI effort of gathering intel, targeting the local honchos, prising them out through a mix of incentives etc etc...

Somnath,

Strengthening local police all over India is better option that creating CRPF raaj all over India. But, what is good for PC and cahoots in Center? What will fetch them more bribes? Strengthening local police all over India or creating CRPF raaj all over India? Latter. Which is why PC is asking for CRPF raaj everywhere and is abandoning the idea of strengthening local policemen.

Chase the money flow, and all "illogical" things in the world would seem "logical".

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Large parts of Naxal area is mineral rich. If CRPF raaj comes in those areas, then only those companies who control PC will be able to to mineral extraction in those areas. And the companies which do not control PC will no longer be in competition. If state policemen improve, then large companies who cannot build relations with 10s of CMs and 100s of District IPS will lose to middle miners who can do so at small scale. So large companies want everything under Union Home Minister so that they need to deal with fewer people.

Naxalism is about control over mineral ores. So along with money, focus on mineral ores too.

Rahul Mehta wrote: Large parts of Naxal area is mineral rich. If CRPF raaj comes in those areas, then only those companies who control PC will be able to to mineral extraction in those areas. And the companies which do not control PC will no longer be in competition. If state policemen improve, then large companies who cannot build relations with 10s of CMs and 100s of District IPS will lose to middle miners who can do so at small scale. So large companies want everything under Union Home Minister so that they need to deal with fewer people.

Naxalism is about control over mineral ores. So along with money, focus on mineral ores too.

Rahul, as much cynical as I am to the shenanigans of Indian politicians, CRPF as a protection money racket is a bit rich...Fact is that for any mining activity, most approvals (and hence most of the the money chain) are in the state govt domain..It is the state govt that has to give land (centre doesnt own any land), award the concession, carry out the rehab of displaced people, and also give security...The last is an important but late stage input..A lot of money has to change hands for the earlier stages, and "protection money" is a very small percentage of the whole..And the companies involved do not save any "interaction time" at all - they need to go through the state govt hoops in any case (as alos central govt hoops on environment clearances, FIPB aprpovals etc etc)...

In any case, priximate security of industrial locations is going to be increasingly carried out by the CISF, and it is already been expanded for that..If there is a protection racket, CISF is the instrument..

My take is that the CRPF is being beefed up to tackle the cross border nature of the Naxalite operation...Typically state police have problems while dealing with criminals running away to another state - Veerappan was an example of that...To that extent, Punjab and J&K are ringfenced problems, among other things also to do with the topography of the affected areas (the Naxal affected ones are typically dense forests)....

But the problem of cross border can be taken care of by imaginative structuring of the police force itslef, and using the central forces for "border guard" and jungle combing duties...Something similar to what AP has done..In case all the afected states turn the heat up, the Naxals wont have any place to hide..today, a lot of them have moved away from AP to Orissa and Chattisgarh - the idea should be to systematically flush them out of their "strongholds", all in unison...

Avinash R wrote:West Bengal, Jharkhand police discuss simultaneous operations
Wednesday, Jul 15, 2009
http://www.thehindu.com/2009/07/15/stor ... 971000.htm
KOLKATA: A high-level meeting of senior officials of both the West Bengal and Jharkhand police was held at Purulia town in Purulia district on Tuesday to discuss simultaneous operations against Maoists in both the States.


Tough days ahead for jholawallas and their supporters in over-ground outfits who preach "human rights organisations must remain unreasonable”

Why are they not involving Orissa also in this Operation?
It shares common borders with both of them and obviously the naxals will try to escape into it.

I hope this is not true.

Army cantts in Naxal areas

It will stretch the logistics line even further, making a mockery of "doctrinal" changes like Cold start, rapid mobilisation etc...Not to mention pulling in the Army in an "internal conflict" situation, which requires policing solutions..

But the same newspaper has this as well - Setting up a special force to combat Naxalism

There seems to be some merit in the proposal, as a "quick fast track solution", even as state police forces need to beef up their capacities and capabilities...though it is not clear what the organisation would be of this force - will it report to the Home Ministry, or to the resp state govts? What happens to intel gathering, which is at the heart of any CI ops, how do they integrate with the state police?

kidoman wrote:

Avinash R wrote:West Bengal, Jharkhand police discuss simultaneous operations
Wednesday, Jul 15, 2009
http://www.thehindu.com/2009/07/15/stor ... 971000.htm
KOLKATA: A high-level meeting of senior officials of both the West Bengal and Jharkhand police was held at Purulia town in Purulia district on Tuesday to discuss simultaneous operations against Maoists in both the States.


Tough days ahead for jholawallas and their supporters in over-ground outfits who preach "human rights organisations must remain unreasonable”

Why are they not involving Orissa also in this Operation?
It shares common borders with both of them and obviously the naxals will try to escape into it.

Some CT here...

Orissa is being ruled by Mr Patnaik who recently got renewed people mandate (aka majority) with the direct/indirect help of maoists who killed Swami Lakshmananda Saraswathi (thus creating the Hindu reaction). Why would they help WB govt in this action, especially if the plan is something different.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/china_strong

China Strong!

CRPF toll in Chhattisgarh Maoist attack rises to six....seems like Afghanistan repeated in Charttisgarh.....is the GoI going to do anything after seeing the sheer loss of our force personnel?

http://www.dailypioneer.com/191714/CRPF ... o-six.html

The casualty in the landmine blast triggered by Maoists rose to six Monday with four more bodies of Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) personnel found. The blast had been triggerred Sunday in the state's restive Dantewada district.

Over two dozen Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) troopers belonging to the 111th battalion were in two vehicles late Sunday when the powerful landmine blast hit one of them in Dantewada district, some 350 km south of capital Raipur.

Abhi_G wrote:CRPF toll in Chhattisgarh Maoist attack rises to six....seems like Afghanistan repeated in Charttisgarh.....is the GoI going to do anything after seeing the sheer loss of our force personnel?

http://www.dailypioneer.com/191714/CRPF ... o-six.html

The casualty in the landmine blast triggered by Maoists rose to six Monday with four more bodies of Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) personnel found. The blast had been triggerred Sunday in the state's restive Dantewada district.

Over two dozen Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) troopers belonging to the 111th battalion were in two vehicles late Sunday when the powerful landmine blast hit one of them in Dantewada district, some 350 km south of capital Raipur.

And the most pathetic thing about it is, the pitiable media attention its getting!!
No coverage in our countless news channels.Its been ages since i saw a good news article on the situation in Chattisgarh.
Seems to be a No go zone for our Journos..

kidoman wrote: quote="Abhi_G" CRPF toll in Chhattisgarh Maoist attack rises to six....seems like Afghanistan repeated in Charttisgarh.....is the GoI going to do anything after seeing the sheer loss of our force personnel?

http://www.dailypioneer.com/191714/CRPF ... o-six.html

The casualty in the landmine blast triggered by Maoists rose to six Monday with four more bodies of Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) personnel found. The blast had been triggerred Sunday in the state's restive Dantewada district.

Over two dozen Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) troopers belonging to the 111th battalion were in two vehicles late Sunday when the powerful landmine blast hit one of them in Dantewada district, some 350 km south of capital Raipur. /quote

And the most pathetic thing about it is, the pitiable media attention its getting!!
No coverage in our countless news channels.Its been ages since i saw a good news article on the situation in Chattisgarh.
Seems to be a No go zone for our Journos..

Commie dominated journos, you mean?

^^^ just think about the hapless families of our dead soldiers.....
the CRPF/RPF work under really difficult circumstances. No blood in sufficient amounts, no proper medication facility in the state run hospitals to treat injured soldiers. Last time there was an attack on the Purulia railway station where three RPF personnel were seriously injured during a Maoist raid during "CASH" disbusement for salary of personnel. The GoI CANNOT pay the force personnel more efficiently and with security. The three died on their way to the sadar hospital. The cycle continues.....Indian blood is cheap.

Apologies, if this is posted before....the situation is serious.

CRPF-police dispute adds to Naxal-hit Chhattisgarh’s woes
http://naxalwatch.blogspot.com/2009/07/ ... l-hit.html

Maoists doing what they do best. Killing democratically elected people and destroying public property.

Maoists kill panchayat head in Bihar
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/165 ... bihar.html
Premchand, head of Paigampur panchayat in Muzaffarpur, was killed outside his residence by a group of armed Maoist rebels at Dera Chowk in Minapur block, a police officer said.
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Towers blown up, red week begins
Wednesday , July 29 , 2009
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1090729/j ... 292422.jsp
Cuttack, July 28: Reports reaching the Cuttack police headquarters said Maoists blew up two mobile service towers at Padmagiri in Malkangiri today.

Bihar: 137 policemen killed by Naxals in Bihar since 2003

Replying on behalf of the state government to a question of Ramdeo Verma (CPI-M) in the assembly, Yadav said according to the figures compiled by the state police headquarters here, altogether 137 policemen lost their lives in violence perpetrated by Maoists between January 1, 2003 and May 31, this year. Asserting that the state government was firm in its resolve to contain the activities of the Naxalites, he said the vacancies in 210 posts for sub-inspectors, inspectors and deputy superintendents to be deployed in the Naxalite-hit areas would be filled soon.

Besides, the Special Auxilliary Police (SAP) personnel were also engaged in tackling the Naxals. Steps have also been taken for recruitment of over 6,500 SAP men on contract to engage them in the police operations against the ultras, he added.

MP: Naxal threat in MP

State police also got information that Naxals are operating under the shadow of local tribesmen and are involved in usurpation of forest land. The presence of Naxals has been noticed in Ghateha and Padkul villages. Last year, police had freed the captured land from the tribesmen after violent confrontation. Their activities have also been noticed in the districts, which are near to Rewa like Shahdol, Singrouli, Umariya and Sidhi. Naxals infiltrate into the regions through the organisations like 'Adivasi Ekta Parishad'. There is information about Naxals becoming active in ten Police Station areas of Sidhi and Singrouli. Though MP is not that much affected by the Naxal menace, yet it is geographically surrounded by States including Bihar, Orissa, Jharkhand, Andhra Pradesh and Maharashtra, facing Naxal menace.

Orissa gets battle ready to counter Naxalism

The Government of Orissa has appointed 2100 Special Police officers and raised four battalions of the India Reserve Police to fight Maoists in the State.

The decision has been taken by the State following the killing of 74 security personnel and 22 civilians in 56 incidents across the State in 2008. That was in comparison to the killings of 15 security personnel and two civilians in 52 incidents in 2007, a White Paper released by the Orissa Government indicated.

Naxalites believe that violence will discourage foreign companies and make them hesitant to invest and set up their businesses in interior areas. That would harm the economic development of the State.

According to Defense expert, Nihar Nayak, the recent Naxal attack in Orissa has indicated that Naxals have changed their strategy. He pointed out that police have to change their strategy too.

Naxalites feel that if the interior areas are developed , their base would be eroded. Therefore, stringent action against Naxals is the need of the hour, according to Nayak.

PTI : Over 1,200 naxal related incidents this year

Minister of State for Home Affairs Ajay Maken in a written reply to a question:

"The available inputs do not indicate that naxals are getting help from elements outside India," the Minister said.

In 2008, a total of 1,591 naxal incidents were reported in which 490 civilians and 231 security force men were killed.

Whereas in 2007, 460 civilians and 236 security force jawans lost their lives in over 1,560 naxal related incidents.

Ananth Mahadevan is making the film Red Alert - The War Within based on the Maoist terrorists. Description:

This is the true story of Narsimha, a farm laborer, who desperately needed money to fund the education of his children. He finds himself in the midst of Naxalites where his mission becomes a mere subset of a greater cause that the militant's pursue. From being a mere cook to actually training in weapons to being involved in shootouts and kidnapping, Narsimha himself in the thick of life he had never bargained for. A confrontation with the group leaders turns his life upside down; he is now on the run from both law and the militants.

Mamata Banerjee and her party calls Sitaram Yechuri the 'No1 Maoist in India' in response to the Stalinist charges against them for 'inciting violence' in Bengal. TMC openly talks about Yehcuri's role in Nepal, his repeated visits to Maoists in Nepal and proudly calls their party a patriotic nationalist party unlike the Stalinists.

The Stalinist rapist goons' propaganda yellow daily blacked this out and instead printed charges by Yechuri with prominence. I cant find the link in Deccan Herald anymore.

It takes a lot of courage to take on the ideology of mass murderers, rapist goons, eye-gougers and Pol-Potist, Stalinist traitors in the face of their, character assasinations by intellectual liars, murderous goon squads and negative propaganda by yellow media allied to these forces. TMC is the only party doing this openly, courageously. Even BJP is not taking them on strongly enough and calling spade a spade, using the kind of language that TMC openly uses.

Hats off to you Mamata-ji!

VinodTK wrote:Maoists plan to take 'guerrilla war' to new areas

Today's TOI (Andhra edition) carries pictures of women maoist cadre (all armed in fatigues) lecturing (hectoring) a bunch of tribal villagers somewhere on the AP-Orissa border.

Also, they've unveiled several statues in Vizag to proclaim their presence, the attached photo-caption says.

No press story explaining details, though. I would rather have wide coverage and media grilling of this serious lapse in internal security to put pressure on an otherwise complacent establishment. No guarantee it will work to wake them but its better than nothing at all.

I will X-Post this in the Internal Watch, The Police Reforms thread as well

Hindu:Security: police to share details
THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: Director General of Police Jacob Punnose said on Monday that the forthcoming conference of heads of police departments of south Indian States would streamline the system for timely sharing of intelligence on matters relating to left wing extremism, religious radicalism and coastal security.

Senior police officers from Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, Kerala, the Lakshadweep islands and Puducherry, on Tuesday, will discuss these subjects that affect the internal security of south Indian States in varying degrees.

The Hindu: Coordinated police action mooted
The delegates will discuss chiefly the activities of Left wing extremist groups, with special reference to the activities of the CPI (Maoist). The meeting will also deliberate on the current status and activities of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) and pro-LTTE organisations in South India. The issues of Sri Lankan fishermen, including their arrests in the Indian waters, will also be discussed. The meeting will devise a strategy for joint response in the event of a terror strike.

Though Kerala does not have a sizeable threat from the Naxalites, she faces a problem thanks to the large number of migrant labour coming in from AP and other North Eastern states. The labour contractors do no maintain proper records, and many cases of naxalites and North Eastern guerilla cadre coming and working in Kerala had been reported. The whole issue came into lime light when AP Police came in to a place near Ernakulam, picked up a hard core naxalite (Malla Reddy??) from one of the worker groups and went back. He was then reported to be killed in a police encounter. Coastal security is one important aspect, and hope there is enough follow up action on this. Kerala received a good patrol boat recently, and 8 more are supposed to come in soon from the shipyard in Goa.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Prach ... pal/498655

Prachanda says he quit because India wanted to attack China through Nepal looks like the training provided by Yechuri is yielding good results.

As usual dont expect to read about this in the rapist goon propaganda yellow daily which often carries interviews with him.

I just read in a Telugu news paper that the of Maoist leadership (Ramakrishna, Sudhakar and Bhaskar) is in the custody of AP Police.

Good work AP Police.

What do we know of Ramakrishna? Is he from RECW?

ramana wrote:What do we know of Ramakrishna? Is he from RECW?

IIRC, yes!

Here is his pic

Vara Vara rao jumped the gun to prevent their encounter darn itt

RamaY wrote:I just read in a Telugu news paper that the of Maoist leadership (Ramakrishna, Sudhakar and Bhaskar) is in the custody of AP Police.

Good work AP Police.

Eenadu says they are surrounded not arrested. But we have to wait for the confirmation. This has happened before in Nallamalla forests where he was surrounded and all these chootiya 'people front' or 'people forum' people pressured the government to remove the blockade. If he is caught, it is ultimate catch for the greyhounds. As far as AP maoists are concerned he is the top guy. He is now in the maoist central commitee.

if he is indeed surounded why announce and give thier slick city supporters a chance to intervene.

Aditya_V wrote:if he is indeed surounded why announce and give thier slick city supporters a chance to intervene.

They have their own sources. After all these mukhota for public consumption, agencies have been developed for that special purpose only.

Aditya_V wrote:if he is indeed surounded why announce and give thier slick city supporters a chance to intervene.

For all we know these chaps might have been in the custody of the AP Police a couple of days back. Once their "singing like canary" is over, a formal "arrest" would be announced.

Sachin wrote:

Aditya_V wrote:if he is indeed surounded why announce and give thier slick city supporters a chance to intervene.

For all we know these chaps might have been in the custody of the AP Police a couple of days back. Once their "singing like canary" is over, a formal "arrest" would be announced.

Are the Raj era laws of turning 'approver' etc still in force? Just wondering.

Hari Seldon wrote:

Sachin wrote: For all we know these chaps might have been in the custody of the AP Police a couple of days back. Once their "singing like canary" is over, a formal "arrest" would be announced.

Are the Raj era laws of turning 'approver' etc still in force? Just wondering.

Our Indian Police code is of 1862 vintage only sir.

"approver" before police will not work, unless before a magistrate.

Any news on the Maoist leadership that had been circled, updates from local media? TIA