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Re: Capitulation at Sharm el Sheikh

Posted: 30 Sep 2013 08:34
by arun
The foolish position regards Balochistan / Baluchistan adopted by the Nehru-Gandhi family led Congress Party administration of our PM Dr. manmohan Singhat Sharm El Sheikh continues to be used by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to blunt India’s quest to have the Islamic Republic of Pakistan stop using Mohammadden Terrorism to target India. Text of question by a journalist from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and its answer by one of the key players in the surrender at Sharm El Sheikh, our National Security Adviser, Mr. Shiv Shankar Menon:
Question:Yeh kaha jaata hai ki donon Vazeer-e-Azam ki mulaqaat mein donon mulqon ke daakhili haalaat ka asar tha, aur khaas taur par Bharatiya Vazir-e-Azam par. Jab ki BJP is mulaqaat ki mukhaatib kar rahi thi aur Prime Minister ke liye badi mushkil thi. Kya aap samajhte hain ki is mahaul jis mein jismein guftagu hui hai, uska asar aapko vahan dikhaayi diya donon taraf, aur khaas taur se Indian Prime Minister par?
Aur savaal aapse yeh karna hai ki kya Balochistan ki situation discussion mein aayi jiske baare mein aapko evidence Sharm-al-Sheikh mein Pakistan ke then Prime Minister ne diye the interference ki?



National Security Advisor: I think we are two sovereign states dealing with each other. And the principle on which we at least act is not to interfere in each other’s internal affairs. We are neighbours. And as the Prime Minister has said, you can choose your friends, you cannot choose your neighbours. You have to deal with these issues that we face in the relationship, and we will continue to do so.
Balochistan was mentioned. I think Prime Minister has made it clear in the meeting and also in other contexts that there is no question of India interfering in Pakistan’s internal affairs in any way. If there is any evidence of this, we have not seen it. We will be happy to look into it if it were given to us.
From here:

Transcript of Media Briefing by National Security Advisor on Meeting between Prime Ministers of India and Pakistan (September 29, 2013)

Re: Capitulation at Sharm el Sheikh

Posted: 30 Sep 2013 08:55
by Philip
Pak is doing brilliantly in furthering the Baluchi desire for independence,by its abysmal post-earthquake relief efforts.Many decades ago,a huge cyclone devastated Bangladesh,millions were killed.E.Pak was left to fend for itself by the western leadership.That sparked off the victory of the Mujib Awami league party in the next gen. election,whose results were suppressed and the genocide of Bengalis by their Punjabi brethren began.The result,the war of '71 and the creation of Bangladesh.Unfortunately,Baluchistan is a sparsely populated and very large territory.The Paki writ from Islamabad is fast losing its grip on the Baluchis.They however need substantial outside support for it to break away successfully.Still,it will continue to be more of a "lawless" zone and much in the manner of our Naxals holding sway in parts of our country,so will the Baluchis hold a local grip on events.The real breakaway will happen when the Paki "centre" cannot hold.As it gets more involved in external machinations like Afghanistan and India,its grip on the Baluchis will loosen.

The sad fact though is that in this land of Lilliput leadership,we are diplomatically retreating when the enemy isn't even pushing hard!

Re: Capitulation at Sharm el Sheikh

Posted: 30 Sep 2013 13:00
by Lalmohan
if baluchistan had a contiguous border with india, then things might have moved more rapidly

Re: Capitulation at Sharm el Sheikh

Posted: 07 Oct 2013 01:07
by Dipanker
arun wrote:The foolish position regards Balochistan / Baluchistan adopted by the Nehru-Gandhi family led Congress Party administration of our PM Dr. manmohan Singhat Sharm El Sheikh continues to be used by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to blunt India’s quest to have the Islamic Republic of Pakistan stop using Mohammadden Terrorism to target India. Text of question by a journalist from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and its answer by one of the key players in the surrender at Sharm El Sheikh, our National Security Adviser, Mr. Shiv Shankar Menon:
Question:Yeh kaha jaata hai ki donon Vazeer-e-Azam ki mulaqaat mein donon mulqon ke daakhili haalaat ka asar tha, aur khaas taur par Bharatiya Vazir-e-Azam par. Jab ki BJP is mulaqaat ki mukhaatib kar rahi thi aur Prime Minister ke liye badi mushkil thi. Kya aap samajhte hain ki is mahaul jis mein jismein guftagu hui hai, uska asar aapko vahan dikhaayi diya donon taraf, aur khaas taur se Indian Prime Minister par?
Aur savaal aapse yeh karna hai ki kya Balochistan ki situation discussion mein aayi jiske baare mein aapko evidence Sharm-al-Sheikh mein Pakistan ke then Prime Minister ne diye the interference ki?



National Security Advisor: I think we are two sovereign states dealing with each other. And the principle on which we at least act is not to interfere in each other’s internal affairs. We are neighbours. And as the Prime Minister has said, you can choose your friends, you cannot choose your neighbours. You have to deal with these issues that we face in the relationship, and we will continue to do so.
Balochistan was mentioned. I think Prime Minister has made it clear in the meeting and also in other contexts that there is no question of India interfering in Pakistan’s internal affairs in any way. If there is any evidence of this, we have not seen it. We will be happy to look into it if it were given to us.
From here:

Transcript of Media Briefing by National Security Advisor on Meeting between Prime Ministers of India and Pakistan (September 29, 2013)

This sounds like Sharm el Sheikh redux to me. Thanks to our PM Paki are going to use it against India:

Pakistan says evidence of Balochistan interference shared with India