Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 21, 2010

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 31 May 2010 02:11

This piece of news is going to spin a new wave of Anti americanism across pakistan. The Pakistanis will try and preserve H&D and will further add fuel to fire.
Meanwhile GHQ pindi and Politicians will have a united 'browning of the pants' ceremony, because they know that such a successful terrorist attack on the US mainland originating from Pakistan is a matter of when and not if.

The ISI will be tested to its hilt now. Let us see how much they can actually control their snakes, whom they've nursed and fed all these years. I can see the ISI handlers pleading, threatening, cajoling, their terrorist wards to stand down for the forseeable future.

This is going to further aleniate the jihadi groups from the ISI and the Pakistan Army.

See the power of one statement from Hillary Clinton will have far reaching effects in Pakistan and its jihadi culture. It is almost make or break time for the ISI-Jihadi relationship.

Jaspreet · Post by **Jaspreet** » 31 May 2010 02:20

Dupe Deleted Diligently

Prem, you're the best

. </not sarcasm>

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 31 May 2010 02:36

That news bit about Ombaba dropping in on SMK's dinner reception is part of building pressure on TSP. However as Gagan puts it the pressure cooker needs to be relieved.
So most likely there will be local non state actors acting in India.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 31 May 2010 03:14

Had a pretty interesting convo with Eye-raaq return interrogator. One cannot but spot the similarities. Apparently most convos were bizarre. Like

Do you want unkil soldiers to leave?
Nooo!
Then why did you do this?
Thats the only reason why my family respects me

Few of his quotes are quite insightful

A sheep herder will make $20 a month. He is resigned to this fate for the rest of his life. His way to prosperity would be to have more kids, send a few for soosai bombing and make $200 more. You cant fix the canon fodder. There is a reason why they are still kept as sheep herders. Revolution against the masters requires complex thinking, easier way out is to listen to them and make a quick buck.

Charming guy. Either by training or by nature. Also uses it for more interesting things like picking up wimmens.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 31 May 2010 04:17

These stories about Unkil preparing to attack TSP are clearly planted ones - planted by Unkil to send a message...part of carrot and stick policy - question is what the intended message is, what it ends up sending and are they the same?

1. TSP may conclude that a bunch of liberal bleeding heart wimps can only bark and not bite, and carry on as usual...a risk because sometimes these wimps have to act disproportionately to keep some credibility among non-wimp audience and to prove their patriotism, after all elections are coming soon.
2. Jehadi pigs whether or not under financing by ISI/TSP may decide to call Obama's bluff..after all it would cost them nothing, if Unkil bombs TSP it will mostly be collateral damage (if killing any Pakbarian animal can be called that).
3. Some SDREs have a few brief hours of happiness and get a massage for their H&D.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 31 May 2010 04:33

Qadiyanism Defeated in the Parliament: Complete account of the proceedings of National Assembly regarding declaration of Qadiyanis as Non-Muslims.

http://www.khatm-e-nubuwwat.org/lawyers ... iament.pdf

It is a long document, but please see page 27, the Exchange between Attorney general and Mirza Nasir

archan · Post by **archan** » 31 May 2010 04:45

Jaspreet wrote:Hopefully I have cleared the air. If you still think I am a WKK type, then we're having "communication issues" and I don't know what else to do.

Dhanyawaad. However I did not think you were a WKK type, nor did I allege that and it is none of my business if someone is WKK... arrey bhai, to each his/her own hainji?
A couple of quick points I would like to make though:
It does not matter how long one has been on the forum and how their views have been out in the open on a given matter. If I make a not-so-clear comment here today, I know there will be folks who will rip it apart, regardless of my past. So that is the internets and that is BRF for you.

Secondly, regarding, letting the pigs stew in their juices. Again as I said it would be the best option for India. India has a lot more to lose than these lowlifes who have lost most of what they snatched in 1947. Their only consolation these days is to exaggerate India's internal problems and find relief that "hey, if we are screwed, India is doing no better! yay!". They are in for a cruel surprise in the coming years. However, letting them stew is fine until they don't succeed in Mumbai type misadventures. It is then that sitting overtly inactive on India's part becomes a problem for the observers. I do note however the extremely hard work our agencies are doing in prevention of terror attack day in and day out - be it Kashmir, be it from the east, and now even Punjab again. However, prevention is an extremely difficult and not 100% foolproof exercise when the size of nation and the population is this large.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 31 May 2010 05:03

Jaspreet wrote:
Dupe Deleted Diligently
Prem, you're the best . </not sarcasm>

Paaji , i try.

Jaspreet · Post by **Jaspreet** » 31 May 2010 05:58

It does not matter how long one has been on the forum and how their views have been out in the open on a given matter.

So each time a poster writes one has to evaluate them afresh?
There is no context ever. Every 10e-43 seconds the universe recreates itself. I'm sure I read that somewhere.
</light hearted>

Vivek_A · Post by **Vivek_A** » 31 May 2010 06:02

When it comes to earth-e-shaster, the jokes write themselves..

http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=33969

Pakistan need Dr A.Q. Khan in the field of eduction
Comments
Zahid Malik

I have purposefully linked the heading of this piece with Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan who started the work on nuclear programme from the scratch and took it to the zenith in less than a decade. Dr A.Q. Khan so far as I know him, and I claim having known and respected him a lot, has the potential to become a Dr Khan of Education also if he transforms himself into a reformer.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 31 May 2010 06:10

. I vividly remember the day when Dr A.Q. Khan, father of Pakistan's nuclear programme, last time visited the Chaghai test site, inspected the tunnel and arrangements after performing ablution with Aab-e-Zam Zam and gave a go ahead signal.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 31 May 2010 06:14

Jaspreet wrote:
But look at the US in Afhghanistan. Does the US not have F-15, F-16, B-52, MOAB, JDAM, AMRAAM, Abrams, Cruise missiles and the lot? What do the Taliban have.

The US can use extreme force to elimnate all opposition. In the same way the Pakistan army would have to use extreme force to eliminate all those 25 milion arms wielders.
Question:
If conventional superiority is useless in such circumstances then the same holds true should these people choose to target India together. Then does it follow that a stable and law-abiding Pakistan is in India's interest?

No. The analogy is like the Naxal violence. We can defeat any Pakistani attack using overwhelming force, but that force cannot be used against naxals.. It's not just military strength, but the political and psychological damage caused by using overwhelming killing force against your own people.

So how do you control your own people if they fight the state. The first fundamental step is what I stated in an earlier post, which you may have missed. The govenment must never allow to people of any country to gain more military strength than the government. This is true for all stable nations on earth and has been true throughout history. Pakistan has allowed its own people to bear arms to such an extent that it will be impossible for the Paki army to defeat its own people without using overwhelming strength. Guess what happened the last time Pakis used their army's overwhelming strength against their people? That was in 1971. They are beginning to have to do it again. If they don't do it, the state gets defeated, if they do, they are finishing off their own people. Catch 22.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 31 May 2010 06:34

Jaspreet wrote: My position was that we should let them (the Paks) stew in their own juice. After all, BD hasn't been overtly friendly with us.

If you look at what is happening in Pakistan today - the real meaning of "stewing in their own juices" appears. My multiple choice questions were based on the exact mechanism of stewing. Does the meat get done first? Do the potatoes get done first? Or do they both get done.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 31 May 2010 06:39

SriKumar wrote: Wah. Wah. Great find anupmishra. I watched it twice and it was funny on many levels (atleast 3)...first, about the behavior, then their decency and then how they go after free stuff....'Ramzaan ke baad jahaan chand nazar aaaya phir shuru ho jaata hai....' was a priceless line. She's a very competent operator, staying on the message very well. Have to hand it to the interviewer that initially he was clearly upset by her remarks but after she clarified with examples, inspite of his obvious discomfort with her comments, he did come around and agree that she had a point. Should go in the Humour thread.

I love the suppressed anger on the PakMonkey interviewers face. It appears for a brief moment and disappears. He is a typical example of a Paki who has been taught, "Live in shit. Live in shit and enjoy it, because our shit is better than Indian shit". And so Pakis have wallowed in crap, secure in the delusion that no matter what they do they will forever be better than India for Allah has ordained it so.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 31 May 2010 07:42

Here is the Paki Stew coming to Boil, hopefully get overdone.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... chi--bi-06

KARACHI: Famous industrialist and businessman Riaz Laalji has been kidnapped by unknown persons in Karachi on Sunday.Sources told DawnNews that Laalji returned to Pakistan from Dubai today. He was on his way home from the Quaid-e Azam Airport when unknown men on four vehicles kidnapped him.His car was found empty on Shah-re-Faisal road, a private news channel reported.Police have registered a case of the incident and started efforts for his release.Laalji, a prominent friend of President Asif Ali Zardari, was wanted in several cases including the Steel Mills case.

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... her--bi-03

ISLAMABAD: A bid to kidnap the brother of Interior Minister Rehman Malik on Saturday night was foiled in Islamabad.Police sources told DawnNews that the kidnappers in a Land Cruiser followed Malik's brother when he came out of the Ministers Enclave.The kidnappers managed to flee when they found police on the Margalla road. After the incident, police enhanced checking on all the exit points of the city and registered a case against three unknown suspects in Secretariat police station under section 345 and

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 31 May 2010 07:47

The various ingredients and teh recipe of the Paki Pappi Stew!
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... -050-hh-05

Thanks to the maliciously tempered history taught to us of Islam and Pakistan in our schools and colleges, I have noticed that very few young Pakistanis have any ability left in them to question (in an informed manner) what is dished to them by the courts, the state, the clerics and the televangelists as ‘Islam’ and ‘nationalism.’
Some ten years ago when Islamic evangelists were out in force asking Pakistanis to stop saying Khuda hafiz and replace it with Allah hafiz, no ‘moderate’ bothered to ask them why. They heard the word ‘Allah’ and that was it. No questions asked. So naturally, the same social preachers then got enough leverage to continue, asking Pakistanis to stop saying wa-alaikum salaam to non-Muslims who greet them with asalamalaikum.
Through decades of disseminating glorious fantasies and myths about what a Pakistani Muslim is to believe and behave like, advocators of a hybrid version of faith and national ideology—in which conservative and traditionalist understanding of the faith is updated by a myopic and paranoid understanding of modern society—have been successful in turning much of society into an unquestioning, knee-jerk mass. This mob has little or no capacity to think beyond what is handed out as faith and patriotism.

What goes missing in such a society is the ability to think and reflect. Its knee-jerk applause for popular Islamist causes and conservative social behaviour make it a society that is both fodder and food for nihilism—all in the glorious name of jihad, patriotism and good morals. This misplaced understanding of nationalism and religion is not only the vocation of crackpots and the clerics, but can now be found in the courts of law, intelligence agencies, the military and elected politicians alike.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 31 May 2010 07:52

http://www.indiavision.com/news/article ... nal/60797/
Decision on N.Waziristan offensive rests with Kayani : Gilani

Lahore (ANI) - Pakistan Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani has said the decision on launching a military offence in the restive North Waziristan rests with Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani.
Addressing a public gathering after distributing compensatory cheques among the displaced people of Swat and Malakand, Gilani said the government would not bow down to extremists, adding that it would conduct military operations wherever the militants have established a safe haven for themselves."Military operations will be conducted at all places where the government's writ is challenged," The Daily Times quoted Gilani, as saying.Referring to the military offensive in Swat and Malakand, Gilani said that military action was not a permanent solution to the issue of extremism, and added that the problem can only be resolved through social reforms and developmental work."It is the job of the political leadership to bring social reforms and concentrate on capacity building of law enforcement agencies to meet the post-operation situation," he said.Gilani also pointed out that world peace was directly linked with peace and stability in Pakistan.
"I've told the world community clearly that maintenance of peace in Pakistan is closely linked to their prosperity," he said.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 31 May 2010 07:54

U.S. Presses Pakistan for More Data on Travelers

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/31/world ... error.html

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 31 May 2010 08:06

Prem wrote:http://www.indiavision.com/news/article ... nal/60797/
"I've told the world community clearly that maintenance of peace in Pakistan is closely linked to their prosperity," he said.

Paki-sutra begging position #28

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 31 May 2010 08:39

yeah!!

we warn you, if you don't pay us we will not keep quiet.

Best case scenario for unkil, Pakis will drive around Waziristan in Al-Khalids and come back asking for more money. That is the only "service" which can be extracted with all this "pressure" being drummed up by unkil.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 31 May 2010 08:58

The only problem for Pakistan is that while its army does the bandar dance in waziristan, massa sees everything with the Preadtors and the Global Hawks. Besides there must be agents in the ground who must be giving massa info with the 100000000000 sat phones that massa has given them. Add to that the field commanders of the pakistan army are probably in the pay of massa for info on what they have been ordered to do and what they are doing.

Interesting job this field commander in the Pak Army would be:
1. Collect money (and goats) from the locals to spare their families, loot houses etc.
2. Give info to massa and make some more money.
3. Collect a inflated salary cheque from the pak army at the end of the month.
4. Meanwhile pretend to be all pious and honest.

arun · Post by **arun** » 31 May 2010 08:59

Jirga directs 6 month old infant to be married to a 25 year old man.

What is surprising is that the Jirga took place in Karachi which one would assume is socially more progressive than the rural areas of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and therefore would not marry off an infant even granting their belief in the practice of swara / vani

.

As an aside odd that this practice of compensatory marriages for slights suffered in the Islamic Republic is termed after names of Hindu girls.:

Six-month-old girl married off in Swara incident

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 31 May 2010 09:17

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SCIsq1B8ng
"The India-Pakistan-U.S. Triangle"
A Distinguished International Scholar Lecture
March 18, 2010
by The Honorable Jaswant Singh, Member of Parliament, Lok Sabha, Government of India and CASI/University of Pennsylvania Distinguished International Scholar;
with Francine R. Frankel, Professor, Department of Political Science and Founding Director, Center for the Advanced Study of India (CASI);
Bruce O. Riedel, Senior Fellow, The Brookings Institution;
Moderator Devesh Kapur, Director, Center for the Advanced Study of India (CASI)

Located at The McNeil Center for Early American Studies, University of Pennsylvania
The Honorable Jaswant Singh is among the most respected names in Indias public life, and in the world of diplomacy. He is a Member of Parliament, in the Lok Sabha. Mr. Singh has served with rare distinction in both Houses of Indias Parliament and is among the most respected public figures of India. He has headed six core Ministries of the Government of India, and was simultaneously the Minister of External Affairs and Defence. Uniquely again, in the same term of office of the National Democratic Alliance (NDA) government, he then became the Minister of Finance. He is the author of several books, including National Security: An Outline of Our Concerns, Defending India, and most recently Jinnah: India-Partition-Independence.

Mr. Singh is in residence at CASI this month as a University of Pennsylvania Distinguished International Scholar.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 31 May 2010 09:29

abhishek_sharma wrote:U.S. Presses Pakistan for More Data on Travelers

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/31/world ... error.html

Another data point in "Pakis shoot themselves in the foot".

Pakistan, like other countries, currently provides the names of airline passengers traveling to the United States. But the administration is pressing for information on Pakistanis who fly to other countries, to feed into databases that can detect patterns used by terrorists, their financiers, logisticians and others who support them, the officials said.

Pakistan has for several years rebuffed this politically unpopular request as an invasion of its citizens’ privacy. But the issue is now on a “short list” of sticking points between the two countries — including some classified counterterrorism programs, a long-running dispute over granting visas to American government workers and contractors in Pakistan, and enhanced intelligence sharing — that have intensified since the failed Times Square car bombing on May 1, two senior administration officials said.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 31 May 2010 09:56

arun wrote:Jirga directs 6 month old infant to be married to a 25 year old man.
What is surprising is that the Jirga took place in Karachi which one would assume is socially more progressive than the rural areas of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and therefore would not marry off an infant even granting their belief in the practice of swara / vani .As an aside odd that this practice of compensatory marriages for slights suffered in the Islamic Republic is termed after names of Hindu girls.:
Six-month-old girl married off in Swara incident

I think we Infidels in the whole should be very clear , Pakistanians have been living in Jahilya for centuries before the arrival of their current deen of which they are cosidered the best practictioner in Ummah . Now Pakistan is islam and Islam is what Pakistan does and the true light is shinning on every Paki life. Pak Lurkers , please ignore us and go on exhibiting that , as promised ,you are the best nation ever raised among.... never mind . Some one on the net said that even the duty of guarding the Gates of Paradise is exclusively given to Pakistanians since the time of MO BI Qasim and its the PAKI onlee who grant enterance visa upon the arrival.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 31 May 2010 10:12

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ma ... y-festival

Referring to Pakistan's relations with India, he recalled being told in Kathmandu, the capital of Nepal, of a proverb which said that when two elephants fight the grass gets trampled. "I shudder to think if two elephants start making love the grass gets more trampled," he said.

Carl_T · Post by **Carl_T** » 31 May 2010 10:16

^^^ Who goes on top?

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 31 May 2010 10:17

Mushy, as usual, shooting off his mouth.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 31 May 2010 10:26

pgbhat wrote:Mushy, as usual, shooting off his mouth.

Paki use both Mouth and Musharraf to earn money. Their expertize and exploitations are all known to 3.5 Massars & Company who ahs regularily enjoyed the services. .

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 31 May 2010 11:06

abhishek_sharma wrote:U.S. Presses Pakistan for More Data on Travelers

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/31/world ... error.html

During Musharraf's time. TSP was forced to share all sorts of data from passport # to the anal radius on travelers going to/from TSP to US. This is what led to the ease with which Headley and co were tracked/inserted.

Now Unkil wants to know the next level of TSP's covert/deniable activities. Having a similar database of travelers and travel patterns between TSP and Dubai, Saudi, China, Nepal, Korea, Thailand etc. will give Unkil more insight on not just TSP's primary export but also TSPA's covert weapons and nuke tech acquisitions as well as offshore wealth stashing by key TSP Establishment figures etc.

We can fully expect none of this to come to India's help, but rather used by Unkil to gain more and more leverage with TSPA and other establishment elements in TSP.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 31 May 2010 12:03

Moderate progressive liberal Yawn editorial issues a veiled threat to Unkil

Friend or foe?

Could the US realistically launch strikes inside Pakistan without expecting a severe backlash here, from the security establishment, the public, the politicians and the non-state actors?

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 31 May 2010 12:26

Folks,

Continuing on the Shiv's and Jaspreet's dicussion on firearms, is there any way we could glean out information on the number of purelanders who have been shaheedized since say Zia's time. To quantify this problem that Shiv discussed, we need to get those numbers.Imagine a plot of year vs count. That would be of much Psy-ops value.

arun · Post by **arun** » 31 May 2010 12:32

X Posted.

chetak wrote:........... This is the same aman ki natak jang.

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?265622

Spinning The Conspiracy Wheel
May 31, 2010

American newspapers have superb "spin masters;" Pakistani Urdu press excels in "conspiracy theorists." Here are the front-page “explanations” in Pakistan’s two foremost Urdu newspapers,Nawa-i-WaqtandJang, only one day after that carnage at Lahore. Both are published from several cities, and also have web editions. The first sponsors something called "Nazariya-i-Pakistan Trust" (Concept of Pakistan Trust), where on the 26th of May a delegation of Dalits from India was warmly welcomed, and heard earnest expressions of sympathy for their plight in India. The second,Jang, is currently the co-sponsor with the Times of India of something called “Amn ki Asha” (Hope for Peace). Several exchanges of intellectuals between the countries have recently occurred under their sponsorship. Jang also owns some TV channels.

...............

Some of the above explanations are repeated in various reports on the front-page in Jang. There is also a special report by a staff writer. It begins by claiming that certain secret agencies of the country had discovered the ugly conspiracy before the attacks, and informed the relevant officials; the latter, however, paid the report no attention. “A senior officer of a secret agency,” the report continues, “told us that the Afghan intelligence, together with India’s RAW, and the intelligence organizations of U.K., America, and Israel, was involved in the incident, and that the senior most officer of the Afghan intelligence had contacted by satellite phone an extremely influential Qadiani in Bharat, to tell him that something against his community was about to happen. According to this senior official of a secret agency, such attacks on the Qadianis bring into question the security Pakistan provides to its minorities. The above-mentioned four countries, enemies of Islamic jihad, have gained strength by getting this operation done. India now gains an excuse for its planned action against madrassas and Muslim scholars in India, in particular against the scholars of the Deobandi school.” {Snipped} ...............

Pretty duplicitious behaviour from the Jang media group of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

While the English language component of the Jang media group in collaboration with the our very own Bennett and Coleman media group (Times of India) claims to be fostering brotherhood with the “Aman ki Asha” media programme, the Urdu language component of the Jang media groups peddles innuendo that foments hatred against India

.

I wonder when is the Bennett and Coleman Group / Times of India is going to wise up to the fact that they are as it were supping with the devil when they teamed up with the Jang media group?

arun · Post by **arun** » 31 May 2010 12:35

Excerpt from the interview of Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff of the US Military, Admiral Mile Mullen by Fox News Sunday dealing with a report by the Washington Post that the US could retaliate with a military strike on the Islamic republic of Pakistan if an Islamic terrorist attack on the US was traced back to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

The Washington Post story is available here: Options studied for a possible Pakistan strike.

Anyway, some things do not change. The Pentagon still cannot seem to contemplate giving up on its indulgent love for the Islamic Republic of Pakistan despite a surfeit of Islamic terrorist inspired bad Pakistani behaviour. Enjoy the effort of Admiral Mike Mullen at not laying down the line that there would be consequences for Pakistan if an Islamic terrorist attack on the US was traced back there:

Monday, May 31, 2010
Fox News …………………

WALLACE: There's a report out this weekend that the Pentagon is reviewing plans for a major strike in Pakistan if, God forbid, there should be a successful terror attack here on the U.S. homeland and it can be traced back to Pakistan.

Question: Are you putting terror groups and the Pakistani government on notice?

MULLEN: I've spent an extraordinary amount of time in Pakistan in dealing with my counterpart there, General Kayani, and I've been impressed with how much Pakistan has evolved over the last couple years. They've lost a significant number of troops. They've regained a significant amount of their territory. They're very focused on that.

They're struggling in building behind the security that they've created, in — particularly in the western area. They've moved some 70,000 troops to the west. So we're working hard to strengthen that relationship. We're working hard to support them in training. And we'll continue to do that.

WALLACE: But when you talk about a unilateral strike if there's a successful terror attack, are you putting the government and the terror groups on notice we'll take this into our own hands if need be?

MULLEN: Well, again, my focus, more than anything else, is in support of them. And clearly, I mean, we're very concerned about that part of the world. We're very concerned about — that's where Al Qaida leadership lives. We know that. And we're working with Pakistan and, quite frankly, with Afghanistan to continue to put pressure on that leadership.

And I wouldn't speak to any kind of details in terms of either plans or operations.

Transcript: Adm. Mike Mullen on 'FNS'

arun · Post by **arun** » 31 May 2010 12:46

The Yehudi component of the Y(e)vil Yankee, Yehudi, Y(h)indu axis aka YYY axis whose sole purpose is “maligning” the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, acts up.

Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu in an interview to the Canadian Broadcasting Coporation names the Islamic Republic of Pakistan as one of the two “greatest threat to mankind”.

Interesting to see that Israel’s bete noir’s are no longer perceived by them to be of Arab origin but instead are now perceived to be two non-Arab Islamic Republics, namely Pakistan and Iran:

…………… The greatest threat to mankind today, and this is what we should be focusing on, is if a radical Islamic regime meets up with nuclear weapons or nuclear weapons meet up with a radical Islamic regime. The first is called Iran and the second is called the Taliban takeover of Pakistan. These developments could be a pivot of history. They could change the world. And I think if the international community wants to be concerned with the problem of what happens if these radical regimes acquire nuclear weapons, what happens if they give them to terrorists — these weapons could appear anywhere, they don't even have to have missiles, they could be put in a container on a boat without a direct address, they could appear in any country in the world — that is the single greatest threat of our time and that's what people should be focused on. ………..

CBC

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 31 May 2010 12:50

Pakistan may launch operation in Punjab against militants: Malik

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 993934.cms

Carl_T · Post by **Carl_T** » 31 May 2010 12:51

You have to remember Mullen is the one that Kayani has apparently charmed, and it looks that Mullen has bought into it.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 31 May 2010 14:07

One of the key principles of successful GUBO is that the pleasure is not one-sided. Otherwise, it would not have worked so well and so deep for so long. Puns intended.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 31 May 2010 15:25

Return of the "Prodigal son"! Gen.Bandicoot says that people yearn for him to return,but is it actually true,or is the yearning entirely from his side.Safely tucked away in his London hideout,hidden from the world's media,the bandicoot has definitely been missing the glare of the media which once labelled him as the west's best friend in Asia,living in virtual exile and longs for the glare of the spotlights!
It is also a calculated statement as the issue oif Gen.Killany's extension has arisen.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ma ... y-festival

EXcerpt:
Pervez Musharraf uses Hay festival to hint at possible return to power'Many people are asking that I should come back,' says former president of Pakistan - citing 200,000-strong Facebook 'fan club'
(10)Tweet this (40)Richard Norton-Taylor guardian.co.uk, Sunday 30 May 2010 23.55 BST Article history
Pervez Musharraf, the former leader of Pakistan, discusses the volatility of the region. Photograph: David Levenson/Getty Images

Pakistan's former president, Pervez Musharraf, tonight used the Hay festival to help launch a possible return to power. He said he could still lead his country out of its deep economic, political and security problems.

"Many people are asking that I should come back," he said. He has a Facebook page and in five months his "fan club has reached 200,000".He said most of his supporters there were between 18 and 34. "The youth of today [in Pakistan] is dismayed."

Musharraf added: "The people of Pakistan must stand up and be counted".

Musharraf recently announced his intention to return to Pakistan, where his supporters have launched a party, the All Pakistan Muslim League, but the next elections are not until 2013. He has been living in London since resigning in 2008.

Interviewed tonight by Carey Schofield, the academic author, he suggested he had not made a final decision to return, prefacing his remarks by saying "if" he did so.

Rupesh · Post by **Rupesh** » 31 May 2010 15:34

Speaking of guns, found a paki forum for guns n hunting..
link