Shrinivasan wrote:See where this "Pearl of Wisdom" has been shared... "Lunatic council", the nosy busybody which is the spaansar of all Track-II, III, IV , V diplomacy promoting "Aman Ki Tamasha", Siachen Piss Park projects.
Why bombz? Armed with photos of Whiskey and Women, the more pious will take care of the rest. I am not joking. There is an entire industry in Pakistan, which thrives on Qadrifying the blasphemers/immorals. We dont need to do anything at all. "You had Whiskey during Ramzan" is a death sentence in Pakistan.Cosmo_R wrote:That too but bombz pleaze for Jernails and familia.Anujan wrote:We can do gandhigiri too. Selective leaks about Whiskey, Women and money that all these jernails indulge in.
Malala and the Malaise in PakistanThe Nobel Committee may find sentimental symmetry in pairing an Indian and a Pakistani, but in the end Ms. Yousafzai and Mr. Satyarthi aren’t joined in a shared endeavor after all. Pakistan’s problems are all its own.
Those comments should warm the hearts of every Brfite. They are saying what we have been trying to teach the world for the last 15 years. Here are the top 5 comments as rated by the readers:Dipanker wrote:Read the comments, NYT readers have come down her like a ton of bricks!CRamS wrote:Guys. whats it with NYT giving a lot of space to TSP RAPEs. Yesterady, there was Mosharaff Zaidi, and today some RAPEette talking about how TSP is pristine but only has an image problem in the manner in which white west portrays it. If Indian elites have that colonial disease forever seeking west's gaze, TSP RAPEs who believe they are the west's TFTA counterparts in the region are so jolted when the whites portray them as terrorist pigLeTs that they are
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/16/opini ... gnize.html
This guy could be a Brfite or *gasp* our views have become mainstream now - even the old inside jokes:
Nathan James
San Francisco Yesterday
Maybe the reason that "Homeland" isn't filming in Pakistan is that it's not SAFE for them to film in Pakistan. Sociopolitical nuance tends to get lost when the most vociferous members of Pakistani society scream (and enact) existential threats to the West. Unfortunately, this is an example of the high percentage of law-abiding Pakistanis suffering because of the outrageous acts of the few. The solution is to rein in your outrageous few – which Pakistani society has not done.
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chandigarhi
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While I sympathise with Bina Shah's overall point, I feel her standards of authenticity are too high. If Indian actors stand in for Pakistani ones, does it really make the show inauthentic? I'm from Pakistan and if I didn't read the credits, I wouldn't be able to tell them apart. Second, the difference between Pashtun and Bihari actors is just chauvinism. Not all Pashtuns are tall and light eyed, just as not all Biharis are short and dark. Get over these stereotypes, Ms. Shah, before you complain about others stereotyping your country.
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vid Tussey
New York City Yesterday
As a retired USN military pilot, let me assert that the military forces (and capabilities) displayed in Homeland are also unrecognizable. Such is Hollywood.
Having said that, I had a chance to visit Karachi in the mid 1980s. It was pretty awful. You could buy any drug imaginable on the street, and unfortunately many of our sailors did so. Hashish was sold in cakes that looked like bars of clear soap. I remember more than one time when someone seemed to randomly fire a machine gun into the air. Bribery seemed to be everywhere. I certainly had the impression that law enforcement, at least by any known Western standard, simply did not exist in Pakistan.
I know the history of Pakistan has been one of violence, dictatorship, and corruptions since its birth. And certainly in the 60+ ensuing years, India has far outpaced Pakistan in both growth and human rights, not to mention governance.
I would welcome a close-up examination of the real Pakistan. Let it start with a serious look in the mirror.
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Viveka
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Shah should realize that Pakistan is reaping what it sowed. Its long practice of nurturing home grown terrorist groups, and allowing its territory to be the training ground for Al Qaida and others like them, and its military and ISi giving succor and sanctuary for known terrorists like Bin Laden, Zawahiri and Mullah Omar, naturally translates into ready made Hollywood fiction. Now its homegrown Taliban is killing other Muslim minorities like the Shiites. If Pakistan wants the world to view it differently, it should do something about the monsters its society itself as created. Pakistan created its own bad Karma unfortunately.
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TDurk
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I don't watch "Homeland," but I was fascinated by Ms Shah's list of the show's misrepresentations of Pakistani life and culture. I'm not sure that the difference between Urdu and Pashto matters much to most Americans, but it might be a big deal to an Urdu-speaker who wouldn't want to be mistaken for a Pashto-speaker. Pashto is the language most commonly associated with the Taliban supporting populace that straddles the borders of Afghanistan and Pakistan.
That said, while nuance is important, what's more important is what appears to be the Pakistani government use of theocracy and terrorists as tools of their foreign policy. Lashkar-e-Taiba's 2008 attack on Mumbai was certainly abetted by Pakistani government officials according to subsequent inquisitions. And yes, Osama Bin Laden was being sheltered by Pakistani government services, ISI. So there really is a problem there, at least from western eyes.
So the real issue that Pakistanis should be concerned about, if they care at all how American culture depicts them, is the real use of theocratic terror as a tool of their national government. So long as the Pakistani population supports the Pakistani government's policies, well, you can expect Hollywood to portray Pakistanis pretty much the way they appear to the outside world.
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In its diplomatic response to the situation, Pakistani government wrote letters to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and the president of UN Security Council, besides briefing the envoys of P-5 countries in Islamabad and the rest of the diplomatic corps based here on the situation and directing Pakistani ambassadors abroad to raise the issue with their host countries.
“We took clear steps towards internationalising the matter,” the foreign secretary said and claimed the move had had “a sobering effect” on the Indians.
[There you go]
Mr Chaudhry said the intensity of firing from India had decreased after Pakistan’s diplomatic offensive.
He hoped that Delhi would realise that “its approach was fraught with unnecessary risks”. [Sending jihadis of course has no risks whatsoever]
Brings to mind an old story. In Ulan Bator there was a Paki wimmens from a noble LaHore family. She used to run a very glossy magazine, mainly fashion for paki wimmens. Lots of glossy ads for jewelry etc. Flourishing. Then Her Pakiness decided to publish the fine artwork of Hussein, who used to draw yindoo deities in the buff.Anujan wrote:There is an entire industry in Pakistan, which thrives on Qadrifying the blasphemers/immorals. We dont need to do anything at all. "You had Whiskey during Ramzan" is a death sentence in Pakistan.
Not really, if you look deeperpartha wrote:So one RAPE motorma wrote a blog on pak tribune saying she agrees with Sam Harris and Bill Maher regarding their criticism of Islam and Muslim societies.
http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/24414 ... ill-maher/And this is how her picture looks at the end of the blog post. Blurred!I agree with Sam Harris and Bill Maher
Probably to prevent abduls from attacking her for agreeing with kufrs? Maybe I am reading too much into it but I'll not be surprised if that's actually the case.
PESHABWAR: Jamaat-ul-Ahrar (JA), a splinter group of proscribed Tehreek-i- Taliban Pakistan (TTP) has released video of a renegade army doctor, asking military officers and soldiers to join Taliban’.Sitting beside JA spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan in the video, the man with black beard and wearing black turban is introducing himself as Capt Dr Tariq Ali who claimed to have served in Frontier Corps Balochistan, 80 Brigade Siachen, and various places in Punjab. He cited posting in Waziristan the reason for leaving the army.He said in fluent English that he had spent two tenures in North and South Waziristan agencies and refused order of the Second in Command official when he was asked to go for the third time.“I refused to obey the orders of 2-IC (Officer Second in Command) and a few days later I took a flight to London,” he said. He is critical of the media and blames it for spreading a bad image of Taliban.He called upon officers to join Mujahideen for the enforcement of shariah and Islamic system.Addressing senior officers and soldiers in Urdu and English Tariq Ali who is also known by the name of Abu Obaidah Al-Islamabadi said that his “PA” number was 103907 and he passed out with 18th course of the Army Medical College.He said that he worked in the army for nearly seven years and about nine years ago he left the army and migrated to London where he did general surgical training in London and Cambridge.Simultaneously, he said he used to call non-Muslims to Islam.“Allah blessed me with the passion of Jihad. I left Britain with an intention to go to Iraq and join Islamic State, but I was arrested on the way and sent to prison in Croatia,” said Dr Tariq.Then he was deported to Pakistan and initially he faced some difficulties in the beginning. Later he joined JA. “May be it was the will of Allah that I should join the Mujahideen of Khorasan instead of Iraq and Syria,” he said.
That Brigadier Miyan have death wish . he has been making rounds on TV etc advocating Nuking India.SSridhar wrote:Did anyone watch the Arnab show last night? Apart from name-calling and the street-fight that ensued, the frothing-at-mouth-corner Brigadier from Pakistan called Chari of BJP a small-minded man.
Just to recall. In the aftermath of the Qadrification of Taseer and the huge support the killer received in Pakistan, the Interior Minister, Rehman Malik, went as far as to say he would shoot any blasphemer himself.A Pakistani court on Thursday upheld the death sentence of a Christian woman convicted of blasphemy four years ago, as her lawyers vowed to appeal.
Asia Bibi, a mother of five, has been on death row since November 2010 after she was found guilty of making derogatory remarks about the Prophet Mohammed during an argument with a Muslim woman.
“A two-judge bench of the Lahore High Court dismissed the appeal of Asia Bibi but we will file an appeal in the Supreme Court of Pakistan,” her lawyer Shakir Chaudhry told AFP.
Sensitive issue
Blasphemy is an extremely sensitive issue in Pakistan where 97 per cent of the population is Muslim and unproven claims regularly lead to mob violence.
Two high-profile politicians — the then Punjab Gvernor Salmaan Taseer and minorities Minister Shahbaz Bhatti — were murdered in 2011 after calling for reforms to the blasphemy law and describing Bibi’s trial as flawed.
The blasphemy allegations against Bibi date back to June 2009. She was working in a field when she was asked to fetch water. Muslim women labourers objected, saying that as a non-Muslim she was unfit to touch the water bowl. A few days later the women went to a local cleric and put forward the blasphemy allegations.
Pakistan’s tough blasphemy laws have attracted criticism from rights groups, who say they are frequently misused to settle personal scores.
Last month, a prison guard at the notorious Adiala jail in Rawalpindi shot and wounded a 70-year-old Scottish man with a history of mental illness who is on death row for blasphemy.
The jail also houses Mumtaz Qadri, the former bodyguard of Governor Taseer who gunned him down in an Islamabad market place. He was given a death sentence but heralded by some as a hero for killing Taseer. — AFP
Since when is Womanizing a crime in Islam. In fact, womanizing Kufr women brings so much sawab, that a little Whiskey may even be pardoned, for after all Islam treats all Kufr women as if they were she-dogs!Anujan wrote:Anujan wrote:We can do gandhigiri too. Selective leaks about Whiskey, Women and money that all these jernails indulge in.Why bombz? Armed with photos of Whiskey and Women, the more pious will take care of the rest. I am not joking. There is an entire industry in Pakistan, which thrives on Qadrifying the blasphemers/immorals. We dont need to do anything at all. "You had Whiskey during Ramzan" is a death sentence in Pakistan.Cosmo_R wrote:That too but bombz pleaze for Jernails and familia.
or Sunni Brelvi, Hindu, Sikh, Christian areasudhan wrote: . . . pray that the shower of scrap metal happens on an shia/ahmedi settlement..
WHO is not helping correct what is Pakistan's image problem. Pakistan demands WHO correct its statement and say "Pakistan is number one market for polio vaccines". World should recognize Pakistan's efforts in keeping jobs alive in polio vaccination industry.Pakistan responsible for 80pc polio cases: WHO
In fact shitistanis deserve even more credit than that. Because of them no one in the world can stop administering polio vaccines to children. Ever. Pakistan is the Polio Khilafat of the world.partha wrote:http://www.dawn.com/news/1138522/pakist ... -cases-whoWHO is not helping correct what is Pakistan's image problem. Pakistan demands WHO correct its statement and say "Pakistan is number one market for polio vaccines". World should recognize Pakistan's efforts in keeping jobs alive in polio vaccination industry.Pakistan responsible for 80pc polio cases: WHO
Punjab Minister for Excise and Taxation Finance Mujtaba Shujaur Rehman has said that under the chief minister's employment scheme, 4 million people will be provided jobs during the current financial year.
Other things he said off camera was promise of flying carpets, magic lamps, jeannie for every abdul yada yada....He said that subsidy of Rs 10 billion would be given to farmers on DAP fertilizer as the farmer community was a backbone of our economy. Shuja said that the Punjab government wanted to upgrade growth rate of the province to 8 per cent till the next four years and in result of it, more than seven million people will be able to live above poverty line and two million people will be provided technical training to make them self-sufficient.
He said that specific objectives of programmes launched by the provincial and federal government were to reduce the under five mortality rate to less than 40 per thousand live births target 40/1000, to reduce maternal mortality ratio to 140/10,000 and to increase proportion of deliveries attended by the skilled birth attendants at home or in health facilities to 90 per cent by 2015.
Sir: A few days back, Finance Minister Ishaq Dar said that if India wants its army to speak the language of war, then Pakistan’s army is prepared to respond in the same language. However, I have to admit with a heavy heart that Pakistan is not capable of matching India’s power, and neither is our army ready to respond on an equal footing. From the first day of Eid-ul-Azha onward, the Indian army targeted more than 14 people, and destroyed multiple houses with heavy artillery, but our response had been restrained, to say the least. We have actually become accustomed to such foreign aggressions and interventions {read GUBO}. The US regularly sends drones to Pakistan but neither the army nor the government have ever discussed the matter openly or persuasively. We as a nation need to know what is our foreign policy and our stand on important issues, especially those concerning our sovereignty.
Bahram Sayad
Turbat
Brad Goodman Ji :
This is some amazing shyte. When I was researching my ebook with generous help from BRFites, I specifically looked for such data and made a mention of such indices. What amazed me then was that the only time Pakistanis ever mentioned such statistics was when they were smearing India and saying how bad India is..Brad Goodman wrote:After mushy said million pakis would join the way with yevil baniya the recruting has started
Four million people to get jobs soon: Shuja
He said that specific objectives of programmes launched by the provincial and federal government were to reduce the under five mortality rate to less than 40 per thousand live births target 40/1000, to reduce maternal mortality ratio to 140/10,000 and to increase proportion of deliveries attended by the skilled birth attendants at home or in health facilities to 90 per cent by 2015.
I was thinking Djinn and tonicRajeshA wrote:
But whiskey photos can be useful!
interfering in balochistan is different from looking after political refugees fleeing pak persecution there. after all as the largest neighbour & a major power it is our moral duty to do so. nothing wrong in that per se.Nandu wrote:Since Unfair is being repeatedly quoted here:
She still holds on to the view, and repeats it often enough, that India is interfering in Balochistan. In turn, the Pakis use this to convert terrorism into an equal-equal problem. I would be wary of her.
by Sameen Qazi!I agree with Sam Harris and Bill Maher
My philosophy is as follows. If you get paper that is toilet tissue on one side and sandpaper on the other, use the side that suits you and throw it away. We use what suits us from Fair's statements.Nandu wrote:Since Unfair is being repeatedly quoted here:
She still holds on to the view, and repeats it often enough, that India is interfering in Balochistan. In turn, the Pakis use this to convert terrorism into an equal-equal problem. I would be wary of her.
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan, which accounts for nearly 80 per cent of polio cases globally, remains the "greatest single risk" to eradicating the crippling disease due to a ban imposed by militants on immunization, the WHO has said.
CheersThe WHO in May imposed travel restrictions on people travelling from Pakistan to other countries.
Paid news. Paid by Monkey Asses.Brad Goodman wrote:TV Shows Helping Bridge Divide Between India, Pakistan
I know she said that before, but has she mentioned this == of late?Nandu wrote:Since Unfair is being repeatedly quoted here:
She still holds on to the view, and repeats it often enough, that India is interfering in Balochistan. In turn, the Pakis use this to convert terrorism into an equal-equal problem. I would be wary of her.
Brad Goodman wrote:TV Shows Helping Bridge Divide Between India, Pakistan
