Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec 2014

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 18 Dec 2014 06:37

It also emerged this afternoon that terrorists have codes for every city of Pakistan and every government installation. The code of Islamabad is Kafristan - city of infidels.

It would be good to know the codes they have for other cities, including non-Pakistani cities.

dsreedhar · Post by **dsreedhar** » 18 Dec 2014 06:41

I was watching the debate from couple of months back on terrorism with panels from india, pakistan and afghanisthan.

Couple of my observations -
1. The panelists from India were subramaniam swamy and mani shankar iyer. At some point in the course of the debate mani shankar iyer was kind of making fun of swamy, but in totality seemed like they were making jokers of themselves. This was very disappointing to see from the representatives of India. There need to be some control how the representatives of the nation behave and present themselves in international forums. What kind of respect do we get from such behaviour? They need to be as one for the nation, and may disagree with opinions respectfully.
2. It seemed the audience from Indian panel struggled to articulately express especially in English. On the contrary audience from both afghanistan and pakistan were very articulate and good in expressing in english. This is not the first time i had this observation. Wanted to see what others think? Dont know where the issue lies. I think it is important of how we present ourselves in international forums. That has a big impact on the viewers.

Anyways coming to the debate, afghanistan people and panelists have rightly blamed the pakistan panel and openly exposed their lies.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 18 Dec 2014 06:50

Other news of the investigation:
http://tribune.com.pk/story/808503/pesh ... ec-report/

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 18 Dec 2014 06:51

Peshawar killing exactly in line with Prophet Mohammed used to do during battles: TTP chief

At the time of the Bannu Qareeza massacre, Prophet Mohammed ordered only those children be killed whose pubic hairs have appeared: TTP chief

Killing of children, women is according to the teachings of Prophet Mohammed; those who are objecting should study Bukhari hadith: TTP chief

Those objecting it was not in line with Prophet Mohd teach shud read Shahee Bukhari 5th Edition, Hadith. No. 138: TTP chief Khalid Khurasani
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5D1ooCIIAENY39.jpg

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 18 Dec 2014 06:57

From Dawn, Farrukh Khan Pitafi:
http://www.dawn.com/news/1151409/our-de ... n-peshawar

Pakistan is given a lot of credit for being a resilient nation. I think most of that is down to the state of denial we choose to live in.

There are always a myriad conspiracy theories circulating within our society. For reasons unknown, we choose to believe them.

We find the distant, often most improbable explanations for simple acts of violence plaguing our nation. Our workplaces, public places, government offices, security installations, hospitals, places of worship and now schools all have come under attack.

After every gruesome incident, TTP or one of its uncountable affiliates takes responsibility; often releases video clips with the assailant’s taped speeches before attack, and yet we refuse to believe it. That state of denial, in essence, is the terrorist's biggest weapon and his ultimate victory.

Then, there is the matter of a national narrative against terrorism. I have brought the matter up with so many successive presidents, prime ministers and senior ministers of this country that I have lost count. This country clearly lacks a coherent narrative against terrorism.

Not convinced? Just switch on your television and see for yourself what our leading talk show hosts discuss in their shows. You will be surprised to see how many conspiracy theories are dished out every single day.

The terrorists shout atop their voice that we are responsible for the terror attacks. Our anchors reply, no you are lying, so and so foreign intelligence agency is responsible. {emphasis in original}

Want to learn more about how pathetic our televised discourse on terrorism is?

First, just recall how deftly a large segment of our media projected Qadri’s Inqilab march and Imran Khan’s Azadi march as a revolution. And now notice how our media covers the Operation Zarb-e-Azb in North Waziristan. Ever since it started, this phrase has been repeated ad nauseam: Operation Zarb-e-Azb kamiabi se jari hai (Operation Zarb-e-Azb is proceeding successfully).

It is literally the same sentence every day, every hour — not a single word changes; almost an expression of boredom, like the ‘whatever’ your child mutters when you give them the same lecture for the nth time.

PS: I seem to recall surveys in Pakistan that showed that most people receive their information not from TV or newspaper but by word of mouth.

I bet, if I remembered correctly that people receive their news by word of mouth, that ultimately the word originates in the mosques. Even following the Urdu press in Pakistan will not give us insight into this.

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 18 Dec 2014 07:01

The code of Islamabad is Kafristan - city of infidels.

How lovely. The Army of Islam is not green enough these days.

A son of Subedar Mazhar, who was student, was also killed when he was identified by terrorists

So the TTP knew the army officer family members in the school before they went in, which explains the execution-style shooting and looks like they were also tortured. The Paki army trains its proteges well when it comes to sheer brutality, obviously.

This information was obtained by tracing a phone call of one of the terrorists. But they attacked a school in Peshawar.

So the terrorists misdirected the TSPA as they knew the phones were being monitored by the TSPA, and spoke of attacking Kafristan and attacked peshawar instead. The TTP clearly no longer uses high tech to do its secure communications, if the TSPA was clueless and had no intel of the attack even after monitoring all TTP phone lines.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 18 Dec 2014 07:11

Fatima Bhutto
http://scroll.in/article/695554/Today,- ... -of-dreams

The Taliban attacked Peshawar’s Army Public School because, they said, they wanted Pakistan to feel pain. But Pakistan, the poet Faiz Ahmed Faiz once wrote, is a congregation of pain. How much more sorrow can one nation bear?

Pakistan, a congregation of pain, would be a fitting epitaph for that country.

I propose IPITIS : Indic Peoples of the Indus & Trans-Indus States.

arun · Post by **arun** » 18 Dec 2014 07:27

Hari Seldon wrote:Oh. And one more from twitter...

Speaking of fabricated pictures being used by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan with regard to the Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden violence where the Un-uniformed Jihadi’s have sought to intimidate their Uniformed Jihadi mentors by slaughtering their children, this picture used by the Nation also looks fabricated. My suspicion of fabrication is because my recollection of hand position of Mohammaddens praying is completely different. Indeed I suspect this picture is from India showing Hindu’s at prayer:

Possible fabricated picture embedded in the editorial of the Nation titled "Truth And Retribution" (Click here)

Mohammadden hand position at prayer demonstrated by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan's Punjab Province Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif :

Use of fabricated picture in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan seems to have gone beyond the case of Noah Pozner.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 18 Dec 2014 07:28

A mild digression. As a very young fellow, I read thrillers by Geoffrey Household, notably "Rogue Male". Per Wiki, "Geoffrey Edward West Household (30 November 1900 — 4 October 1988) was a prolific British novelist who specialised in thrillers. He is best known for his novel Rogue Male (1939)". In one of his novels, Household wrote that Indians made for poor terrorists. According to him, the Indian terrorist would raise his gun, and then hesitate, seeing the humanness of his intended target; and for a terrorist, hesitation is usually fatal.

As a young fellow, I took that as an unintended compliment to Indian civilization. As I said, civilization has its perils, too.

saip · Post by **saip** » 18 Dec 2014 07:35

Arun, that picture is of school children from Mathura, Andamans (

) 9th pic in this link.

Link

But the third pic in this link, where is it from? The hand position is all wrong.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 18 Dec 2014 07:42

Meanwhile in India, school children, some too young to remember 26/11, mourn for the dead kids of Peshawar

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 18 Dec 2014 07:53

Guys, one fall out of this slaughter could be that ModiJi will be forced to junk his "no talks with TSP until some red lines are respected" policy. He sure is under tremendous pressure from the WKK lobby. I think he did the right thing by his call for 2-minutes silence, although many Indians are going way too overboard IMO. Anyway, I hope ModiJi does not resume any dialogue with the TSP RAPE scum bags. You had to see that RAPE Asma Jehangir on NDTV literally mocking India for daring to question why India-specific pigLeTs are given leeway. All my sympathies for such evil charlatans evaporated.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 18 Dec 2014 07:59

CRamS wrote:Guys, one fall out of this slaughter could be that ModiJi will be forced to junk his "no talks with TSP until some red lines are respected" policy.

No. Modi is not the Hindu newspaper. He does not confuse Pakis with Indians.

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 18 Dec 2014 08:22

The useless jokers at the Indian express actually provide space to Beena Sarwar's duplicitous cr@p. How many Indian Newspapers keep track of the fact the Pakistani courts deliberately delayed and changed judges and basically showed no interesting prosecuting LeT? And now that it is all forgotten the media mofos that run the Indian Express and the Times of India are back to their mischief making.

http://indianexpress.com/article/opinio ... -we-can-2/

This is horse puckey she offers for why the pakistani courts are not indicting HAfiz Saeed.

When Indians ask why Pakistani courts keep acquitting people like Hafiz Saeed, the JuD leader, they forget that our court systems are, after all, much the same. To obtain convictions is not that easy. Pakistan also has no witness protection programme. This, coupled with poor forensics and prosecution techniques, makes it quite easy for criminals to literally get away with murder.

very cleverly sidesteps the fact that this terrorist group is being funded by the punjabi government to the tune of 330 crore pakistani rupees by pretending that the only problem with no conviction is because "pakistan is just like India only". And the standard trick of ending the article with a question (for which we all know the answer)

will the apologists and conspiracy theorists move aside to let the nation get on with what needs to be done?

Somehow if you are a poor Pashtun living in a mud hut in NWFP or KP then your kids are fair game to F-16s and heavy artillery, otherwise it is time to look deep into your soul through your navel.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 18 Dec 2014 08:35

The code of Islamabad is Kafristan - city of infidels.

not long before it becomes kabristan

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 18 Dec 2014 09:01

krishnan wrote:
The code of Islamabad is Kafristan - city of infidels.
not long before it becomes kabristan

Taali-baans are almost to the aim. Bakshitannia is Shitadel of Deen.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 18 Dec 2014 09:04

Hari Seldon wrote:^^Aah. Riddick fan are you? The description of the necromanger creed "convert or die", and their methods so locusty, the malsi parallels so obvious.... its not even funny. Only.

Another Similarity, You Keep What You Kill= Maal e Ghanimat.

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 18 Dec 2014 09:07

It is quite hilarious to see the "liberal" paki mofos get all moral and sh*t. This is from the paki army drone Ejaz Haider.

after the Peshawar carnage, some want revenge. i disagree. there's a diff between justice & revenge. it's also the diff between us & them.

How quaint. Bugger actually thinks there is a difference between the paki army and the terrorist groups they trained to create mayhem on their behalf. Ejaz Haider is the same turd who thinks the entire 26/11 terrorist attack is just the indians getting all fussy and supports the lack of justice for that same event...but then this is typical for your average "liberal" paki, so no surprise here.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 18 Dec 2014 09:22

As Pakistani Taliban gunmen strode through the corridors and classrooms of the Army Public School on Tuesday, spraying teachers and pupils with bullets, one paused from his grisly work to make a phone call.

“We have killed all of the children in the auditorium,” the militant, later identified by the military as Abuzar, told his handler. “What do we do now?”

“Wait for the army to arrive,” came the reply. “Kill them, then blow yourself up.”

That conversation, recounted by a senior security official who said it had been intercepted by Pakistani intelligence...

From the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/18/world ... ghter.html

partha · Post by **partha** » 18 Dec 2014 09:33

A_Gupta wrote:
As Pakistani Taliban gunmen strode through the corridors and classrooms of the Army Public School on Tuesday, spraying teachers and pupils with bullets, one paused from his grisly work to make a phone call.

“We have killed all of the children in the auditorium,” the militant, later identified by the military as Abuzar, told his handler. “What do we do now?”

“Wait for the army to arrive,” came the reply. “Kill them, then blow yourself up.”

That conversation, recounted by a senior security official who said it had been intercepted by Pakistani intelligence...
From the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/18/world ... ghter.html

Reminds me of this -

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 18 Dec 2014 09:38

From the New York Times, Mira Sethi and Shehrbano Taseer:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/18/opini ... -last.html

The massacre has sent a wave of horror across the country. For too long Pakistanis have lived in a state of denial about the presence of terror in their midst. When, in January and February 2013, twin bombings killed at least 180 Shiite Hazaras in Balochistan, the country’s response was: This is the unfortunate targeting of a minority group. When, in May 2010, an Ahmadi mosque was blown up in Lahore, killing around a hundred people, the response was: This is the unfortunate targeting of a minority group. When, in October 2012, Malala Yousafzai was shot in the face, the response was: This is the unfortunate targeting of a brazen schoolgirl. (She was widely labeled a C.I.A. agent.) Now, 132 innocent schoolchildren have been murdered. Will we find a way to “fit” this into a narrative, too?

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 18 Dec 2014 09:42

^^^ Apart from armed guards, metal detectors, etc., maybe we need widely deployed remotely controlled radio jammers. In case of an attack maybe the option of cutting off communications of the terrorists with their handlers maybe useful.

habal · Post by **habal** » 18 Dec 2014 09:49

time has come to arm the civilian population. Nothing else will work.

habal · Post by **habal** » 18 Dec 2014 09:51

Westphalian nation state philosophies do not work in jungle called Pakistan and unfortunate countries surrounding it.

saip · Post by **saip** » 18 Dec 2014 09:52

I expect a major terrorist attack in India in January around 10 - 15, just in time for the Rep Day Parade. Pakis will claim we too are victims of terrorism and will shed crocodile tears.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 18 Dec 2014 09:58

Mohammad Taqi, in the Daily Times of Pakistan:

The former military dictator, General Pervez Musharraf, has taken the lead in blaming India and the former Afghan president Hamid Karzai for the APS attack, which the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) has already owned. General Musharraf happens to be the man responsible for allowing the foreign terrorists sanctuary in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), especially the North Waziristan Agency. He and his successor, General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani, refused to act against the massive terror infrastructure that the jihadists had built in North Waziristan right under the army’s nose. The Uzbek terrorists settled in North Waziristan on Musharraf’s watch. They brought in or started families and raised children there. The bilingual attackers were heard speaking Pashto and Uzbek during assorted terror attacks inside Pakistan; they are the second-generation Uzbek terrorists who grew up in Pakistan. In all probability, the APS attackers came from this Uzbek terrorist legion. Musharraf was also the architect of the good/bad Taliban distinction that has brought nothing but misery on Pakistan. The tin-pot dictator himself might be history but he does reflect a certain mindset within the security establishment, which still remains gung-ho about virtually colonising Afghanistan and giving India a bloody nose. Retaining the services of the ‘good’ jihadists is tethered to this zero-sum foreign policy. There is no chance that the APS attackers could have stayed the night(s) in Peshawar and then mounted their vicious assault without the help of some ‘good’ jihadists and their political apologists in Peshawar.

What the current civil and military leaders have to realise is that the distinction between the good and bad jihadists has to go before any anti-terrorism effort can be termed meaningful. The Taliban cannot be good for Kabul and bad for Karachi. Lashkar-e-Tayyaba (LeT) cannot be a poison just for Delhi and a potion in Lahore. The jihadist suicide attack on the Lycée Esteqlal — Kabul’s second oldest school — last week is as heinous as the havoc unleashed on the APS, Peshawar. Using jihadist proxies against secular Baloch separatists and nationalists and expecting them not to morph into another TTP is callously foolish. Operation Zarb-e-Azb in North Waziristan, which is apparently winding down now, was a much welcome move under COAS General Raheel Sharif’s stewardship. Many jihadists — both good and bad — unfortunately escaped Zarb-e-Azb unscathed. The surge in the Taliban-Haqqani network attacks in Afghanistan is a clear indicator that they retain a bridgehead where they plan and train for these attacks.

A former CIA anti-terrorism expert and ex-advisor to President Barack Obama, Mr Bruce Riedel, wrote last week that there is no change in the “Pakistani support for the Taliban insurgency...The ISI participates directly in planning Taliban operations and target selection against NATO and Afghan targets...Mullah Omar, the shadowy leader of the Taliban who calls himself commander of the faithful, divides his time between Quetta and Karachi... The Haqqani network keeps an office in Rawalpindi...” What Mr Riedel has said is not new but it becomes highly significant in the wake of the APS attack and the resolve that the Pakistani civil and military leadership is expressing to go after all terrorists without distinction. The litmus test of the Pakistani leadership’s sincerity and success would actually be whether it cuts the Afghan Taliban and its Haqqani network affiliates loose, hands over Mullah Omar to Afghanistan and puts an end to LeT leaders professing jihadism from national monuments. Unless action is taken against all these hideous shades of terrorism, neither the massacre in my city will be the last one nor would it be the last city to go through such horror.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 18 Dec 2014 10:10

habal wrote:time has come to arm the civilian population. Nothing else will work.

er the civilian population is already well armed in Pakistan

khan · Post by **khan** » 18 Dec 2014 10:20

Hand over Fazlullah, Pak. tells Kabul

Hand over mullah Omar and the Haqqanis Kabul must tell Pak.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 18 Dec 2014 10:21

Husain Haqqani in the Indian Express. Nothing substantially new, but worth reading if you have a moment.
http://indianexpress.com/article/opinio ... denial/99/

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 18 Dec 2014 10:24

saip wrote:I expect a major terrorist attack in India in January around 10 - 15, just in time for the Rep Day Parade. Pakis will claim we too are victims of terrorism and will shed crocodile tears.

Potus visiting too, Paki wont let go the Mauka to Do Dhokha and indulge in wanton killing.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 18 Dec 2014 10:25

SSridhar wrote:Many in India are getting carried away by the reported statement of Nawaz Sharif that his government would not make a distinction between 'good' and 'bad' Taliban. The operative part to be taken note of is 'Taliban'. He did not use the generic term, 'terrorists'. So, terrorism against India will continue and there cannot be any change in that. Nor will there be any change in the political alliance between the Punjab government with AWSJ or LeT/JuD etc. Already, the stage is being prepared for an Indian attack by attributing the latest attack to India. Here, we are conducting Long March throughout India.

Forget India, if Pakistan is sincere about even the taliban, they'd hand over Mullah Omar, get rid of Haqqani network and shut down various sarkari taliban. I dont even believe they'd stop the good taliban/bad taliban business, leave alone act against Pakjabi groups.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 18 Dec 2014 10:26

It looks like that Gen. Raheel Sharif's visit to Afghanistan and his demands to the Kabul government are, as usual, the PA's own decision taken without any consultation with or approval from the civilian government. Link

The only clear plan emerged from Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Raheel Sharif who, without waiting for protocol, informed the Afghan leadership that he was flying to meet them , accompanied by DG ISI General Rizwan Akhter.

Sources said Gen. Raheel had demanded that either the Afghan leaders help in extraditing TTP chief Mullah Fazaullah, or allow Pakistan to go after him.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 18 Dec 2014 10:28

UN should impose no fly zone in WANA as humanitarian gesture.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 18 Dec 2014 10:30

This was a few hours ago. Pakistan acting strongly against terrorism:

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-mu ... rt-2044747

Seven Pakistani nationals filed bail applications even as no proceedings of the case took place at the Adiala Jail in Rawalpindi on Wednesday.

The seven accused filed bail applications even as no proceedings of the case took place at the Adiala Jail in Rawalpindi, as lawyers were observing strike to condemn the terrorist attack on an Army-run school in Peshawar that left 141 people, mostly children, dead.

Pakistan is too busy protesting terrorism to fight terrorism

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 18 Dec 2014 10:44

Indians are responsible for the peshwar attack, they conspired against our hockey team, yeevil Hindoos are responsible for our plight onlee.

Do these delusional fakers never take responsibility for their own actions ever?? The whole culture of malsis world wide have a persecution complex and are in dire need of urgent psychiatric treatment and have been so for the past 1400 years

‘Pakistan hockey team was victim of conspiracy in India’

KARACHI: The manager-cum-chief coach of Pakistan hockey team Shahnaz Shaikh said on Wednesday that the poor treatment meted out to the Pakistan team in the recently concluded Champions Trophy in Bhubaneswar, India by the International Hockey Federation (FIH) and Indian Hockey Federation was utterly shocking and a conspiracy to blunt the Green-shirts.

“What heppened in Bhubaneswar was a conspiracy against our team, a clear case of victimisation where an apology was forced upon us which I submitted in the interest of Pakistan hockey,” he told APP in an interview on Wednesday.

Shahnaz strongly defended his players for their post-match celebrations and added that a non-issue was blown out of proportions to victimise Pakistan players. He declared the whole affair as a big conspiracy which denied Pakistan a great chance to win the Champions Trophy after almost two decades.

Shahnaz, one of the best forwards that the game has seen, admitted that the suspension of Mohammad Tauseeq and Amjad Ali affected the performance of the team in the final.

“Whatever happened after the semifinal naturally played on the minds of our players in the final against the Germans,” he said.

He said he was given a tough time by the FIH and IHF who used pressure tactics for several hours before it was settled with an apology ahead of the final.

Shahnaz Shaikh said the goal-scoring celebrations have been the part of the game the world over and his players were unnecessarily punished by the FIH. He expressed hope that the Pakistan Hockey Federation (PHF) will take up the matter seriously with FIH for the biased treatment meted out to the national team.

He said despite the situation, the Pakistan team was not provided any security and they travelled on their own from New Delhi to Amritsar.

He said the treatment of the Indian officials at the Attari Border was also void of any courtesy which was disappointing to see. “Travelling without any security could have cased any mishap but luckily the team arrived safely in Lahore,” he said.

Shahnaz called on other nations to unite against the overbearing attitude of India in world hockey and how they were trying to influence the game.

Speaking about the team performance, Shahnaz said his team was unable to perform well in the league

round because they were appearing in a major international event after a long gap of 18 months.

“We did not play badly against Belgium and Australia but England did outclass us in the league match by winning 8-2,” he admitted.

“But despite the three defeats, I had a ray of hope that we may survive,” he commented.

“Now my mission is to help Pakistan team qualify for the 2016 Olympic Games,” he concluded.

arun · Post by **arun** » 18 Dec 2014 10:49

shiv wrote:Meanwhile in India, school children, some too young to remember 26/11, mourn for the dead kids of Peshawar

............................. {All Pictures Snipped} .................................

Sad that this opportunity for Indian Children standing in silence for ALL Children, anywhere in the world, who have been slaughtered by Pakistan based Mohammadden, starting with Afreen Qureshi whose life was cruelly cut short by Pakistan based Mohammadden Terrorists in Mumbai on 26/11 was allowed to be squandered. Hat tip to K L N Murthy for highlighting this incident earlier in this thread:

Women who lost child, foetus, identifies Kasab

Speaking of Indian School Children standing in silence for the slaughter of children by Mohammadden Terrorists, was there such an event for the children slaughtered at Beslan in North Ossetia, Russia?

Similarly, was there such an event of Indian School Children standing in silence for the abduction of female children by Mohammadden Terrorists from the Boko Haram Group from a school in Chibok, Nigeria?

I ask so as to put to rest even the smallest iota of doubt that message that children in Peshawar in particular and children in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan are somehow more deserving of sympathy than children in Mumbai, Beslan, Chibok and elsewhere in the world who have been slaughtered by Pakistani Mohammadden Terrorists / Mohammadden Terrorists.

habal · Post by **habal** » 18 Dec 2014 10:59

shiv wrote:
habal wrote:time has come to arm the civilian population. Nothing else will work.
er the civilian population is already well armed in Pakistan

was talking about India actually. Wouldn't mind if it applied to Pakistan as well. Civilian population there is armed, but arms license would be restricted to some small calibre handguns. Surely only someone well-connected would have access to better weapons. aam abdul would be without this luxury.

only downside as far as India is concerned would be that we would become more like USA. Every mentally deranged person may also be suspected of having a gun. And no quarter would be given.
the upside is that once civilian population is armed, it leaves only IED route open for terrorism. You cannot take civilian lives on the cheap using just an AK-47.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 18 Dec 2014 11:15

Ajit Doval visits PAK High Commission

Has there been any precedent when a NSA visits Pak High commission and pay sympathies? Surely, AD knows Pakis dont give a rodents behind for the gesture. For all purposes the retards in Pak High Commission must believe it was AD who must have spinned it for TTP to attack the army school in first place and AD wanted to look in the enemy eye after stabbing them.
Why visit then?

VickersB · Post by **VickersB** » 18 Dec 2014 11:20

Some WKK ido*
https://www.facebook.com/chandigarhcity?fref=nf

habal · Post by **habal** » 18 Dec 2014 11:29

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyc85y9wMMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxrZkkh7vvE

Musharraf is having a lot of takleef lately ..

on following points

a) Afghan army chief was chief guest of IMA passing out parade ceremony. Because 85 ANA cadets were also in that passing out parade.

b) All Afghan army personnel and intelligence personnel are being sent to India to be trained. That is blasphemy of that Ahmak Karzai.

c) Since 2001 not even 1 cadet was sent by Afghans to be trained in Pakistan Military Academy. Isn't this a bias .. Isn't there a problem.

d) RAW has used Afghanistan as a base, and Mullah Fazlullah who is based in Kunar province as a pawn to carry out attacks on Pakistan.

e) TSPA is capable of replying back in same coin, (doesn't clarify if it has carried out ops before or will carry out ops in future).

If TSPA is completely innocent and hasn't carried out any terrorist attacks on external entities, then Musharraf is portraying helpless victim. But he clarifies that TSPA is not a helpless victim and is capable of replying in 'same coin'. Which means they have terrorist capability.

What is left unsaid is whether they have used this capability in past or not.

And no Pakistani anchor ever asks him to clarify on that part.

Both anchor & Musharraf know that there are no easy answers as they try to fool the public with seemingly brave responses.