Terroristan - March 31, 2022

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A_Gupta wrote: 25 May 2025 07:50 The only way so many murders take place without a single arrest is that Paki officialdom is protecting the murderers.
There are 33 such shootings by unknown gunman in the last 4 years and NONE of the shooters have been caught.
Many have had bodyguards, or among our most wanted. We killed one (possibly two) after Op Sindhoor when security around the targets
was stepped up. This is a level of success even Mossad cannot boast of.
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Deans wrote: 25 May 2025 08:16
A_Gupta wrote: 25 May 2025 07:50 The only way so many murders take place without a single arrest is that Paki officialdom is protecting the murderers.
There are 33 such shootings by unknown gunman in the last 4 years and NONE of the shooters have been caught.
Many have had bodyguards, or among our most wanted. We killed one (possibly two) after Op Sindhoor when security around the targets
was stepped up. This is a level of success even Mossad cannot boast of.
Pakiland is a Jihadi state. Jihadi thugs freely roam about in Paki land with their weapons and body guards. When they can freely roam around, others can also freely roam around with their weapons. Local police has no way to know which Jihadi is for the Pakis and which one is against them. Guns and jihadis rule over them. In fact all the rich Paki Abduls also have their own private body guards and they don't go out without their body guards. Further money is in short supply everywhere except for the uniformed Jihadis. If one group gets some sort of money supply in the label of Allah, they can be motivated to kill the other group members. I also think Pakiland is the play ground of multiple intelligence agencies across the globe with different motivations. Obviously Indian agencies should also be actively involved.
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US intel report:

Pakistan is modernizing its nuclear arsenal

Pakistan primarily is a recipient of China’s economic and military

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Deans wrote: 24 May 2025 18:42 https://rpdeans.blogspot.com/2025/05/pa ... again.html

A tribute to the unknown gunmen in Pakistan silently doing their job - in my latest blogpost.
sanjaykumar wrote: 24 May 2025 19:57 India has incredibly granular intelligence resources. When and where, their instantaneous locations. To the extent of being informed of their morning movements.
Allow me to disagree. This has nothing to do with us. This might be p@kis cleaning their stables. Regular housekeeping. Getting rid of assets deemed no longer valuable. That way p@kis can say to GoI, very confidently, these people no longer live in p@kiland. Their whereabouts are unknown.

As long as p@kis kill each other, in their country, what goes my father's property? 8)
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la.khan wrote: 27 May 2025 19:59
Deans wrote: 24 May 2025 18:42 https://rpdeans.blogspot.com/2025/05/pa ... again.html

A tribute to the unknown gunmen in Pakistan silently doing their job - in my latest blogpost.
sanjaykumar wrote: 24 May 2025 19:57 India has incredibly granular intelligence resources. When and where, their instantaneous locations. To the extent of being informed of their morning movements.
Allow me to disagree. This has nothing to do with us. This might be p@kis cleaning their stables. Regular housekeeping. Getting rid of assets deemed no longer valuable. That way p@kis can say to GoI, very confidently, these people no longer live in p@kiland. Their whereabouts are unknown.

As long as p@kis kill each other, in their country, what goes my father's property? 8)
There may well be some people the ISI has got rid of, but not all.
After Op Sindhoor for e.g. the remaining LeT leadership would have been under max protection, yet targets were hit.
Some were valuable and not easy to replace - e.g. radical preachers cum recruiters, or people who did multiple missions in Kashmir,
whose experience was desperately needed to train newbies.
If the terrorist groups believe the ISI is doing it, they will go after the ISI, or their family members.
Some like the kidnappers or Cdr Kulbhushan Jadhav or the man who beheaded our solder, were very India specific. They were no threat
to the Pak establishment.
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la.khan wrote: 27 May 2025 19:59
Deans wrote: 24 May 2025 18:42 https://rpdeans.blogspot.com/2025/05/pa ... again.html

A tribute to the unknown gunmen in Pakistan silently doing their job - in my latest blogpost.
sanjaykumar wrote: 24 May 2025 19:57 India has incredibly granular intelligence resources. When and where, their instantaneous locations. To the extent of being informed of their morning movements.
Allow me to disagree. This has nothing to do with us. This might be p@kis cleaning their stables. Regular housekeeping. Getting rid of assets deemed no longer valuable. That way p@kis can say to GoI, very confidently, these people no longer live in p@kiland. Their whereabouts are unknown.

As long as p@kis kill each other, in their country, what goes my father's property? 8)
Paki cleaning their own stables that too, in a secret Op? If they want to cleanup they can round them up in full public glare. It is long since GoI has spoken to the Paki establishment and they have no incentive to satisfy GoI in any form or fashion. Op Sindoor has proven Goi has very good intelligence of the whereabouts of every Paki Jihadi in some form. I'll put two and two together.

As India grows in other areas of national power, this is inevitable. Money flows to agencies and things happen. As I mentioned before, this sort of operation is quite difficult to run in a non-Jihadi state. In a highly populated Jihadi state like Pakistan there can be no doubt our agencies are involved and we don't need to be apologetic or even secretive about it.
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> If they want to cleanup they can round them up in full public glare.

That is only if the Paki Army is firmly and undisputedly in control, rather than being only the most powerful of a bunch of warring tribes/clans.

IMO, the very public Army and Government of Pakistan involvement in jihadi funerals, despite the constant tactic of "plausible deniability" was to placate and appease them, since the Pak Army failed their part of the contract to keep them protected.

The Pak establishment, assuming that it wants to, cannot take on the jihadis wholesale without serious blowback.

That is why I asked for the knowledgeable to tell us the best current model of Pak - viewtopic.php?p=2649471#p2649471
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A_Gupta wrote: 27 May 2025 21:47 > If they want to cleanup they can round them up in full public glare.

That is only if the Paki Army is firmly and undisputedly in control, rather than being only the most powerful of a bunch of warring tribes/clans.
Yeah, I agree, Ji. But these incidents are not happening in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, where tribal folks might kill each other. These incidents are happening in Paki urban centers. One observation I have noticed as a pattern among Pakis is that they tend to be aggressive and focus heavily on offensive tactics yet struggle to maintain a strong defensive posture. The moment India became more assertive and started conducting offensive operations, Paki's tactic surprisingly fizzled out. I firmly believe now, Indian intelligence agencies under the Aegis of Doval Ji have a clear understanding of Pakis soft belly and are using it to their advantage.
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Terroristanis are bullies. When they are in many and you're alone they are vicious. When they are alone, they are beggars.
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Deep into crypto:
https://www.dawn.com/news/1914060/pakis ... in-reserve
Pakistan Crypto Council (PCC) Chief Executive Officer Bilal Bin Saqib has unveiled the country’s first government-led Strategic Bitcoin Reserve.

He made the announcement about the reserve after delivering a keynote address before an elite audience, which included United States Vice President JD Vance, Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr, at the Bitcoin Vegas 2025 in Las Vegas.

“Pakistan is no longer defined by its past. It is being reborn as a forward-looking hub of digital innovation — powered by its youth, sharpened by necessity, and led by a new generation of tech statesmen,” said Saqib, in a statement issued by his office.


“I’m not just here as a minister,” he said. “I’m here as the voice of a generation — a generation that is online, on-chain, and unstoppable.”

Saqib was recently appointed as Special Assistant to the Prime Minister for Crypto and Blockchain, with the status of a minister of state. He has been on a tour of the United States seeking investment in Pakistan’s crypto markets.
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A_Gupta wrote: 29 May 2025 18:42 Deep into crypto:
https://www.dawn.com/news/1914060/pakis ... in-reserve
..
Nice convenient way for Amrika (and the other fathers) to keep the munna afloat bypassing pesky irritants like FATF, TWEA etc etc
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A_Gupta wrote: 31 May 2025 10:51 The World Bank is investing $20 billion in Pakistan 2026-2035, and has the goal of $30-40 billion investment.

https://documents1.worldbank.org/curate ... pdf#page28
Considering the many news of Pakistan finding it difficult to spend on military in the recent years one hope that this world bank money will not be used for military purposes, right? But one can also say that this much money flow helps Pakistan to allocate their own money to advanced weapons. In short words India is fighting against the western countries with Pakistan as their front.
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‘Begging bowl’: Pakistan PM Shehbaz Sharif urges trade over aid, says he and Munir are the last people to ‘carry this burden’
PM Shehbaz Sharif says Pakistan must ditch dependency and start dealing in trade, tech, and talent—not aid.
"We’re not here to beg ..," he declared in Quetta, vowing to tap into natural resources and back ironclad allies like China & Saudi Arabia.

Meanwhile, India claps back at Pakistan’s Indus Treaty whining: "Try stopping cross-border terror first..
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A_Gupta wrote: 29 May 2025 18:42 Deep into crypto:
https://www.dawn.com/news/1914060/pakis ... in-reserve

Pakistan Crypto Council (PCC) Chief Executive Officer Bilal Bin Saqib has unveiled the country’s first government-led Strategic Bitcoin Reserve.
....
We have already seen a crooked Saqib (Dam Chor, ex-CJI). Wouldn't be surprised to see another Saqib scammer (Crypto Chor).
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Yawn reports that State Bank of Pakistan says that cryptocurrency is still illegal in Pakistan.

So the deal with the Trumps’ company was so transparently an attempt to win favor with Trump and it worked. And yet we have Trump Bhakts on BRF.
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A_Gupta wrote: 01 Jun 2025 08:15 So the deal with the Trumps’ company was so transparently an attempt to win favor with Trump and it worked. And yet we have Trump Bhakts on BRF.
Evidence? Or we have to believe that it worked because you have totally unbiased analysis? :roll:
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Four Pakistanis caught in Nigeria training Boko Haram and ISIS.

https://m.economictimes.com/news/intern ... 517555.cms
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IWT abrogation is starting to show its effects.
Pakistan claims 91,000 cusecs drop in Chenab inflows from India in two days
Amid India’s assertion that ‘blood and water cannot flow together’ following the Pahalgam terror attack, Pakistan on Saturday has claimed that inflows from India into the Chenab River have dropped by 91,000 cusecs in recent days.

A sharp decline of 91,000 cusecs in water flow from India into the Chenab River was recorded over the past two days, Pakistan’s Water and Power Development Authority (Wapda) said. According to Wapda data, water inflows at Marala Headworks dropped from 98,200 cusecs on May 29 to just 7,200 cusecs on June 1, with no outflow reported.

The Flood Forecasting Division of the Pakistan Meteorological Department said that reduction follows similar interruptions earlier in May, when India significantly reduced water discharges into Pakistan ahead of a military escalation.
The Chenab River is critical for Pakistan’s agriculture, especially in Punjab province. Its canals, including the Upper Chenab and the Bambawali-Ravi-Bedian (BRB) canals, irrigate large swathes of farmland. A prolonged disruption in water flows could severely impact crop production and rural livelihoods.
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1.53 minutes video of a Paki news channel in the link.
https://x.com/OsintTV/status/1928725921 ... _lcTQ&s=19
Alarming situation in Karachi Pakistan

Pakistani media reports that load shedding has been going on for eighteen to twenty hours in Karachi, but there is no power outage in the Pakistan Defense area.

They also blame that there is no drinkable water and that they have to wake up at three in the morning and travel a long to collect the water

Note : Indus water passes through the Karachi and India has put the Indus water treaty at abeyance

Date : 29-05-2029
Video credit: Bol News & Gtv

#IndusWaterTreaty
https://x.com/elitepredatorss/status/19 ... pOZhA&s=19
Balochis blew up 2 pipelines and it is not just another attack, it is strategic and well planned.

1. Nasirabad, Dera Murad Jamali: An 18-inch gas pipeline was destroyed using explosives.

Importance : This pipelines supply gas the Uch Power Plant, which generates significant electricity for Pakistan.

2. Mazari Kot, Kashmore Road (Sui-Karachi line): A 36-inch pipeline carrying gas from Sui to Karachi was blown up.

This one is really interesting : Karachi rely heavily on gas for domestic, commerical and industrial use.

Karachi is Pakistan's financial hub, the financial damage would be huge.

These could be a piece in a bigger picture.
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Dilbu wrote: 02 Jun 2025 18:20 IWT abrogation is starting to show its effects.
Pakistan claims 91,000 cusecs drop in Chenab inflows from India in two days
Amid India’s assertion that ‘blood and water cannot flow together’ following the Pahalgam terror attack, Pakistan on Saturday has claimed that inflows from India into the Chenab River have dropped by 91,000 cusecs in recent days.

A sharp decline of 91,000 cusecs in water flow from India into the Chenab River was recorded over the past two days, Pakistan’s Water and Power Development Authority (Wapda) said. According to Wapda data, water inflows at Marala Headworks dropped from 98,200 cusecs on May 29 to just 7,200 cusecs on June 1, with no outflow reported.

The Flood Forecasting Division of the Pakistan Meteorological Department said that reduction follows similar interruptions earlier in May, when India significantly reduced water discharges into Pakistan ahead of a military escalation.
The Chenab River is critical for Pakistan’s agriculture, especially in Punjab province. Its canals, including the Upper Chenab and the Bambawali-Ravi-Bedian (BRB) canals, irrigate large swathes of farmland. A prolonged disruption in water flows could severely impact crop production and rural livelihoods.
Various Dams in Chenab river in India

Salal Dam: This 690 MW Reasi
Baglihar Dam: Ramban, J&K, 900 MW
Dul Hasti Hydroelectric Plant: Located in Kishtwar District, 390 MW
Ratle Hydroelectric Plant: Under construction near Drabshalla, 21% complete 850 MW
Pakal Dul Dam: Under Construction - 350 MW will be ready September 2026

Both the above under construction projects can be enhanced to store a lot more water. In fact GOI already changed the spec for Pakal Dul Dam. Pakis will see very dry summers and fooding during monsoon season. Water bomb is very real and very cruel. Jihadis need to throw in the towel or migrate to other countries.
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Top Jaish-e-Mohammed commander Abdul Aziz Esar found dead in Pakistan: Reports

Islamabad: Another enemy of India and top commander of Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM), Maulana Abdul Aziz Esar, was found dead in mysterious circumstances in the Punjab district of Pakistan, as per several media reports. The video of Esar's death has also surfaced in several foreign media. He was the mastermind of many major terrorist attacks in India.

Funeral at Jaish's headquarters
OsintTV has shared footage claiming that the notorious and senior terrorist of JeM, Maulana Abdul Aziz Esar, died on June 2. He was a resident of Ashrafwala, Kallur Kot in Bhakkar district of Punjab province of Pakistan. According to JeM sources, he died of a heart attack. But the actual cause of death has not been confirmed. His funeral will be held at the Markaz of JeM headquarters in Bahawalpur, Punjab, Pakistan.

Abdul Aziz Esar was involved in many terrorist activities in India
Esar was involved in anti-India activities and the planning of terror attacks. Some security analysts suspect there may be suspicious circumstances surrounding his death. As one of Jaish-e-Mohammed's top strategists, Esar was allegedly behind several terror plots in India, including the 2016 Nagrota attack. He was known for delivering provocative speeches in Pakistan aimed at fueling anti-India sentiments.

Notably, the Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) headquarters in Bahawalpur, Pakistan, was among the hardest hit in India's precision strikes under Operation Sindoor.
https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/world/ ... -03-993146
What are the chances that the dude met the hoors in Operation Sindoor's strike on Bahawalpur, and was lying in a deep freezer till now, only to be thawed now and his death claimed to be heart attack
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sanjayc wrote: 04 Jun 2025 01:01 What are the chances that the dude met the hoors in Operation Sindoor's strike on Bahawalpur, and was lying in a deep freezer till now, only to be thawed now and his death claimed to be heart attack
100%. :lol:
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Your opportunity to listen to a RAW handler of the minions of Fitna ul Hindustan.
Balochi CM press conference, youtube, played this audio:
https://www.youtube.com/live/V932-kTk0S ... yB6K&t=145
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Pakistan appointed as vice chair of UNSC Counter-Terrorism Committee - Dawn.
I suppose it takes one to know one.
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Pakistan experts, was the near-unanimous coalescence of Pakistan around a contradiction-laden, fictional narrative around Op Sindoor something that could have been anticipated?

Thanks in advance!
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A_Gupta wrote: 06 Jun 2025 18:18 Pakistan experts, was the near-unanimous coalescence of Pakistan around a contradiction-laden, fictional narrative around Op Sindoor something that could have been anticipated?

Thanks in advance!


A_Gupta ji,

Quoting in part, a WA forward that was sent to moi

They fear the loss of control so much that they have had to build a fake narrative of a failed state like pukestan, whose alleged success they have been lauding, ad nauseam.

It's like that old chestnut: "If you can't raise the bridge, then lower the river"

The western cartels will close up even tighter to slow India down and disrupt her in every which way.

The amriki FTA is what they are all hoping will be the tip of the spear. but the amrikis have already blotted their copybook because of trumpwa's greed and grandstanding. The amrikis are hell bent on some major issues like India's agricultural and pharmaceutical ecosystems, where India has no give.

The term "driver's seat" no longer means what it did before the Brahmos delivered the goods.

Not being present for the G-7 meeting has worked out to Modi ji's advantage and those with some lingering doubts have just been briefly flashed with a glimpse of India's testimonials.

The shattered dinnerware that Ops Sindoor left in it's wake will take the longest time to paper over, once the goras get over the shock.





It's about control.

If you can control how people see themselves, you can control how they behave.

You can dictate terms, priorities, even dreams.

That's why India telling its own story is more than symbolic.

It's revolutionary. It challenges decades of conditioning.

And when you challenge the story, you challenge the system behind it.

But there's another layer to this. And it's even more urgent.

It's the shift from dependence to independence. It's not just geopolitically, but also economically, and technologically sound indigenous ecosystems that has hit them in the solar plexus.

And this shift, that's where the panic hits the hardest because the west was comfortable when India was the back end, the cheap labor, the call center, the follower.

But now India is becoming the front end, the architect, the innovator, the origin point. Look at what's happening.

India has one of the world's fastest growing startup ecosystems. It's producing unicorns faster than some western economies.

It's becoming a manufacturing alternative to China, not just because of low costs, but because of policy, innovation, and strategic alignment.
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Lt Gen DP Pandey in conversation with Aadhi Aachint says that the Army in Pak land has no more control over things. He believes that LeT will take over Pak, they already have in some sense. The simple fact that Army went for the funeral of dead jihadis after Sindoor strike says it all. Failed Ass I am manure is powerless against the Jihadis and cannot reign them in. When things are like this in Pak land, I wonder why the US is supporting Pak land, it is indirectly supporting terrorism though it publicly states that it is against terrorism. Massive contradictions.

The fact of the matter, is that at dawn of Indian independence the britshits effectively used Pak terrorist thugs to invade Kashmore. This was done to protect their listening posts in Kashmore over the Soviet nuclear program. The entire state of Pak land was groomed to terrorize India. Over time the baton was passed to the US and of course the Chinese followed in close heel to nurture Pak land against India using terror. Now the original Britshit idea of listening posts have been adopted by both US and China against India. Furthermore both China and US cooked up the nonsense of nuclear deterrent against India to use Pak terrorism to finger India whenever they pleased. The jihadis are like wild animals and cannot be tamed, they will turn against their own masters. Pak land haboured OBL right under the nose of Pak land army. The blowback on the US was 9/11 2001. The Cheens are also facing Xinjiang. It is all karmic destiny at play. The Britshits are swirling down the drain in terms of economy and jihadi overun of their nation, the Chinese too are in a severe economic downgrade, the US is facing a huge h-bomb called the 36T debt. Where these things are headed no one knows.

Is it Game over for Pak Army, LeT Take over of Pak, Asim Munir Powerless I Lt Gen DP Pandey
Watch in your leisure time: youtube.com/watch?v=llLSU-FSZV4
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bala wrote: 06 Jun 2025 21:06 Lt Gen DP Pandey in conversation with Aadhi Aachint says that the Army in Pak land has no more control over things. He believes that LeT will take over Pak, they already have in some sense. The simple fact that Army went for the funeral of dead jihadis after Sindoor strike says it all. Failed Ass I am manure is powerless against the Jihadis and cannot reign them in. When things are like this in Pak land, I wonder why the US is supporting Pak land, it is indirectly supporting terrorism though it publicly states that it is against terrorism. Massive contradictions.

The fact of the matter, is that at dawn of Indian independence the britshits effectively used Pak terrorist thugs to invade Kashmore. This was done to protect their listening posts in Kashmore over the Soviet nuclear program. The entire state of Pak land was groomed to terrorize India. Over time the baton was passed to the US and of course the Chinese followed in close heel to nurture Pak land against India using terror. Now the original Britshit idea of listening posts have been adopted by both US and China against India. Furthermore both China and US cooked up the nonsense of nuclear deterrent against India to use Pak terrorism to finger India whenever they pleased. The jihadis are like wild animals and cannot be tamed, they will turn against their own masters. Pak land haboured OBL right under the nose of Pak land army. The blowback on the US was 9/11 2001. The Cheens are also facing Xinjiang. It is all karmic destiny at play. The Britshits are swirling down the drain in terms of economy and jihadi overun of their nation, the Chinese too are in a severe economic downgrade, the US is facing a huge h-bomb called the 36T debt. Where these things are headed no one knows.

Is it Game over for Pak Army, LeT Take over of Pak, Asim Munir Powerless I Lt Gen DP Pandey
Watch in your leisure time: youtube.com/watch?v=llLSU-FSZV4
Very well articulated!! It is game over for the Pakis if we play this well. Interestingly DJT needs a good news and I am sure, he is going to give us a good trade deal. We need to dance with the Americans for few more years and get along without compromising our own interests (difficult preposition but we can manage). In the next 10 years we need high tech market access to lift majority of our folks to the middle income levels. We need to make ourselves as the fair and high tech supply chain source, while we build Atmanirbhar MIC. US and Chinese empire is not going to go down without violence. We don't want to be in the middle of that snd that means, we will continue with the thaw with the Chinese. At some point we will become a true independent power and all these geopolitical games cannot be played with us. Until then it is not fully over IMO.
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World Bank Poverty data

https://pip.worldbank.org/nowcasts
Reading off of the graphs there for Pakistan:

Poverty rate at $3 a day (2021 PPP) (% population): 14.6% in 2025
Poverty rate at $4.25 a day (2021 PPP) (% population): 42.2% in 2025
Poverty rate at $8.40 a day (2021 PPP) (% population): 87.4% in 2025

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https://pip.worldbank.org/country-profiles/PAK
The above is an extrapolation from previous data and trends, repeating below the "actuals" from 2018

Poverty rate at $3 a day (2021 PPP) (% population): 16.52% in 2018
Poverty rate at $4.15 a day (2021 PPP) (% population): 43.68% in 2018
Poverty rate at $8.40 a day (2021 PPP) (% population): 88.74% in 2018
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Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022

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A_Gupta wrote: 07 Jun 2025 22:12 World Bank Poverty data

https://pip.worldbank.org/nowcasts
Reading off of the graphs there for Pakistan:

Poverty rate at $3 a day (2021 PPP) (% population): 14.6% in 2025
Poverty rate at $4.25 a day (2021 PPP) (% population): 42.2% in 2025
Poverty rate at $8.40 a day (2021 PPP) (% population): 87.4% in 2025

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https://pip.worldbank.org/country-profiles/PAK
The above is an extrapolation from previous data and trends, repeating below the "actuals" from 2018

Poverty rate at $3 a day (2021 PPP) (% population): 16.52% in 2018
Poverty rate at $4.15 a day (2021 PPP) (% population): 43.68% in 2018
Poverty rate at $8.40 a day (2021 PPP) (% population): 88.74% in 2018

Few things we need to keep in mind when thinking about Jihadi economy. They are in the lowest rug in terms of digitization. Yet, they conducted a digital census in 2023. It is a convenient and, quite frankly, inhuman way to ignore the starving masses. Another economic indicator is that their inflation rate decreased to almost nothing after reaching as high as 38% in the last three years (post-2022). Jihadis celebrated that as an achievement. These individuals are unaware that the rate of inflation differs from the actual weakening of purchasing power and that the country cannot sustain such an inflation rate indefinitely. If this were the state in 2021, then PPP would be even smaller in 2025. Yet the Munna is being showered with loans and freebies. Munna is being fed with the false confidence that it can even fight with the giant in the east in the name of Allah. All this is because some people don't want the rise of a dharmic power in the neighborhood. They think they can use the Munna to trap the elephant in fighting a never-ending Jihad. Unfortunately, this has made the elephant much more stronger, resilient, and independent. At some point, Munna's support in the liability column for America and China will be unsustainable, and Munna will be allowed to drop dead. We will have to plan and make sure when that happens, we don't bear the liability of Munna's implosion. We need to ensure that the powers that kept the Munna on life support bear that cost.
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Dawn:
The defence budget, though nominally growing, has shrunk dramatically in real terms over the past five years — by nearly $4.6 billion according to Jane’s Defence Budgets. Restoring defence purchasing power is a top priority, especially after recent skirmishes on Pakistan’s eastern border,” he stated, referring to the recent Pakistan-India escalation.

However, a knee-jerk reaction would be folly, Hasanain noted, adding that full nominal recovery of that spending would consume an additional 1.13pc of GDP — nearly the entire fiscal buffer painstakingly constructed under the International Monetary Fund programme. “Doing so risks derailing hard-won macroeconomic gains, would almost certainly crowd out critical social and development spending, and ultimately — due to its unsustainable nature —defeat the goal of sustainably improving our regional security outlook.”
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A_Gupta wrote: 06 Jun 2025 18:18 Pakistan experts, was the near-unanimous coalescence of Pakistan around a contradiction-laden, fictional narrative around Op Sindoor something that could have been anticipated?

Thanks in advance!
I'm not any more or less of an expert than anyone here. But in my view, yes.

Pakistan has survived on imbibing contradiction-laden, fictional narratives regarding every aspect of its viability and legitimacy as a nation state since 1971 (some may say 1965).

With each passing decade, those narratives have become progressively more fragile and harder to sustain as the quantum of publicly-available information became exponentially more abundant and harder to contain. The establishment's response has always been to double down on even more ludicrous versions of those narratives.

Now it appears that Pakistan has had no nukes of its own (beyond a certain number of subkiloton tactical warheads that they managed to beg a degree of control over)-- because all nukes in Pakistan have been American-owned since Allah knows when. Probably since the very first visits of Richard Armitage to Slumbad in 2001-2.

This "Crown Jewels" fable was so central to their frail national mythos, so religiously touted as a guarantor of Pakistani sovereignty, that exploding it (as India did in Nur Khan and Kirana Hills last month) is likely to have catastrophic and unpredictable consequences. We're getting lost in the weeds of 'was there an earthquake or not'... 'did the IAEA cover up a radiation leak or not', and other such nuances.

The forest we're missing for the trees is that their ultimate totem of nationhood-- being the first Islamic Nuclear Weapons State-- has been exposed for the hollow shell it is. And every time ISI attempts a terrorist misadventure, it will be exposed again, even more brutally and undeniably than before. This is even better than conducting direct hits on their jernails (or their assets in Pakistan and abroad) in response to terrorist attacks. I think we have barely seen the beginnings of the great unraveling that India's strikes on those sites was intended to precipitate.
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I think we have barely seen the beginnings of the great unraveling that India's strikes on those sites was intended to precipitate.
Thanks, @Rudradev! I have been taking the "nook nudeness" as jingo talk. Now will break out the popcorn :D
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Pakistan's demand to chair 4 UN terror-related panels snubbed, finally given only one


Pakistan’s bid to lead four key UN Security Council terrorism-related committees flopped, with members only granting it chairship of the Taliban Sanctions Committee and a token vice-chair role in the Counter Terrorism Committee—hardly the big win it sought. Its over-the-top demands caused a five-month delay in the committee allocations, frustrating other members who saw Pakistan’s stance as unreasonable and self-serving. Officials say major powers didn’t want to lead these committees anyway, knowing real decisions require consensus. India sees the outcome as a clear mismatch to Pakistan’s lofty ambitions, and plans to work closely with friendly nations like Russia and Guyana, who also hold roles on the Taliban committee. :(( :((
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Rudradev wrote: 08 Jun 2025 21:31

Now it appears that Pakistan has had no nukes of its own
You may like to see <this too >
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Amber G. wrote: 09 Jun 2025 11:03
Rudradev wrote: 08 Jun 2025 21:31

Now it appears that Pakistan has had no nukes of its own
You may like to see <this too >
Excellent piece! Hilarious, while also accurate.
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Since Pak is nook nanga, here are some videos from yesteryears about the atim bum bombast. Lungi dance!!!

Zaid Hamid (aka Lal Topi) on the history of how pak made the atim bum when they were stuck and got equations and parts in their dreams. (Now we know that they got the atim bum in their dreams).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t1QTriJ4EU

Zaid Hamid (aka Lal Topi) about Ghazwa-e-hind and how allah has made pak the chosen one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gEEgsPvQuM

Khadim Rizvi (the dead one) of TLP rabble rousing of atim bum dhamaka.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciXWaoxcYJU

Saad Rizvi (the son) of the TLP rabble rousing and threatening Sweden and all nations... Quran in one hand and 'atim bum box' in the other hand to meet with the govt of other countries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyqrzaSCN90
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https://idrw.org/germanys-discreet-prom ... ancements/
Germany marketing IRIS-T air defense system to Pakistan.
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^^ Last time I checked, Op Sindoor had busted Lal Topi to Lal Chitter.
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^^^
Lal Topi's color is now officially Sindoor Topi!
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