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Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 02:01
by RoyG
Brihaspatiji,

If there is a mass movement toward ridding dharmics from muslim majority enclaves, how exactly is partition unlikely? I used to believe that muslims and hindus could get along but it's impossible. Once they become a majority in a particular area they just suffocate anything unislamic.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 02:07
by Sushupti
This is about Jihad in Lucknow.
चार दिन पहले दिया था 'अल्टीमेटम'

नमाज से पहले ही बन गई थी रणनीति

बवाल करने वालों के हाथों में टेढ़ी सरिया व बांका था। वे डंडे भी लहरा रहे थे। उन्होंने सरिया मारकर कई लोगों को मामूली रूप से जख्मी भी किया, लेकिन वे वहां से चुपचाप चले गए। इससे साफ है कि अलविदा की नमाज से पहले ही बवाल करने की रणनीति बना ली गई थी।

महिलाओं व बच्चों को भी नहीं बख्शा

हंगामा कर रहे उपद्रवियों ने राहगीरों में शामिल महिलाओं व बच्चों को भी नहीं बख्शा। जो भी मिला, वही पीटा गया। बसों में सवार यात्रियों से उपद्रवियों ने अभद्रता की और उनका सामान भी लूट लिया पार्क की गार्ड सीमा को तो बेरहमी से पीटा और महिला पर्यटक को भी नहीं बख्शा।

http://www.jagran.com/uttar-pradesh/luc ... 74279.html
A very simple solution is to send 1 or 2 of the local leadership to meet their maker. Kalyan Singh implemented this policy after 1991 riots in Varanasi. Not a single riot has taken place in MadanPura area of Varanasi since then. It used to be an annual event during Dashara festival.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 02:10
by muraliravi
devesh wrote:we are in a bad situation. the precedent here is worrying. when people move in favor of collective action, their basic belief is that their "group" is strong and this perception simultaneously leads to perceiving the "others" as weak. often, offensive action tendencies tend to become overt and bolder when the group perceives itself as "well organized" and "strong". this is not deep sociology, just basic psychology and there is ample research which statistically and conclusively proves this.

the nationwide reprisals against NE'ers, clear demonstration of organizational capability across different regions of the country, and the perception that they can get away without any organized resistance from the "others" is surely the path which will pave the way for a much greater willingness among the Islamists to coordinate and form networks of information sharing, and joint-action.

this round cannot go unanswered. either the Hindu "others" or the Rashtra itself needs to directly get involved and show that it has the ability to carry out violent reprisals for such actions. if there is no such counter against the current organized violence, it is practically guaranteed that their networking capabilities will increase by several orders of magnitude, and they will certainly move with precise ruthlessness in the direction of long term coordinated action. which means the entrenched and heavily-foreign-funded-and-supported Islamic organizations on the West Coast (Maharashtra to Kerala), Elements all along the Pak border, Kashmir Valley Islamists, GV based Islamic architecture, and pan-SE-Asian Islamist networks, Bangla Islamists, all will increasingly coordinate their pressure tactics.

the picture is not good. we are only seeing a small demonstration. it is as much a signal to us as it is a signal to the faithfools to reassure themselves of their "group strength" and buttress the perception of Hindu "weakness". if it goes unanswered, we will have dark days ahead.
For sure, this will go unanswered. The only good and easy solution now is for the govt to just give shoot at sight orders to police and arrest every rioter. That itself will do half the job. BJP should go that route as it is doing in KA. Just arrest all these mullahs come what way.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 02:15
by member_23367
Madanpura is a terrorist haven.If you go inside each house they have tunnels in them connecting different houses.After babri masjid issue the PAC kicked the mullahs so hard they were scared to even utter a word.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 02:20
by brihaspati
RoyG wrote:Brihaspatiji,

If there is a mass movement toward ridding dharmics from muslim majority enclaves, how exactly is partition unlikely? I used to believe that muslims and hindus could get along but it's impossible. Once they become a majority in a particular area they just suffocate anything unislamic.
This is a complicated question to answer at this stage and here. Parts of the rashtryia machinery are involved, external forces from at least three mutually competing centres involved, a spectrum of internal political forcces involved - all in the matrix of a highly opportunistic biz network.

I have always suggested that chaos is not only unavoidable, but perhaps also that it will bring about certain changes which are necessary for the road to the future of a post-congrez world [which does not automatically imply a bhajpa world or a mao world]. I agree that land has to be perhaps sacrificed - but temporarily. Unlike the congrez deception, this time all land-giving up should be on a strict basis of tactical retreat, and strict maintenance of claims of rightful possession, and hence the legitimacy of taking it all back. The Jews maintained their claims even through hundreds of years of land-alienation and while in migration thousands of kilometres away.

Borders are temporary compromises in space and time. They are never permanent. They have to be fought for, and shifted to our advantage. In the current formalizations of international political legitimiacy ideas - the crucial point would be never to give up the claim even if not in physical possession, and never recognize governments formed in seceded sub-regions.

But without the "chaos", the main obstacles of the evil nexus between the biz, the mafia, the politicos, the religious institutional ambitions, and external financial and political interests, and the collaborators from within the "dharmik" - will not be eroded. These will be the first targets of whoever wants to "split" things up - even if these have helped them in their project previously.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 02:30
by Prem
B Raman and his friends cannot talk now as they are keeping Maun Vart
which cannot be broken till the instructions from Indraprast Wali MahaMatta
arrive so they all can be on same page to fool the whole Bharat Kul .
Dil me pyam terra , Madam yeh Gulam terra
Kaise gujarru din , ideas all in dustbin
O kaaash koi le ayye abhi
Paigham tumara tikram kaa.

== Islam arrives in Pakistan ,Same time Seculairsm stands tall in india.
Ayya hai mujhe phir yaad woh Jalim
Gujra Jamana Godhra thappan kaa!!!

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 02:39
by Sushupti
SamG wrote:Madanpura is a terrorist haven.If you go inside each house they have tunnels in them connecting different houses.After babri masjid issue the PAC kicked the mullahs so hard they were scared to even utter a word.
Yup. Mullahs in collusion with congi leadership (lead by Lokpati Tripathi) deviced a plan to kill as much as Hindus possible during Dushehera festival. Main guys were the two nephews of third rate Urdu poet (some Benarsi, i can't recall his name). Idea was to discredit BJP by showing that you aren't safe even with BJP and reclaim Varanasi back to Tripathi clan of Congress. As the procession was passing through the Madanpura area with minimal police presence (Lokpati managed to remove it using the loyalty of IPS/IAS officers towards Congress) peaceful goons attacked it. By chance two local inspectors were present nearby and they opened fire. Goons got confused and ran away, as they were promised no police retaliation and whole plot was foiled.

Kalyan Singh suspended the DM, SSP, IG police and ordered the encounter of the two top Jihadi leaders of the city. BJP hasn't lost since then except for 2004 when a significant section of BJP voter base, Brahmins decided to try their luck with Rahul Gandhi.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 02:49
by johneeG
Don't worry congress is preparing a law to handle riots:
Sonia's New Riot Act
Bill drafted by NAC a way to woo minorities: Opposition tells Cong


The Sonia Gandhi-led National Advisory Council (NAC) draft of a Prevention of Communal & Targeted Violence (Access to Justice and Reparations) Bill, 2011 has run into controversy even as it leaves the drawing board. It defines victims of communalism as a group belonging to "a religious or linguistic minority, in any state... or Scheduled Castes and Tribes."

An angry Arun Jaitley, BJP leader of opposition in the Rajya Sabha, leads the attack. "This draft bill proceeds on the presumption that communal trouble is created only by members of the majority community and never by a member of the minority community," he wrote in a column. The Congress is walking a thin line. The attempt to woo the minority vote bank could very well end up alienating the majority community.

Post-Godhra Riots
Post-Godhra Riots in Gujarat in 2002
NAC member Harsh Mander counters the BJP criticism: "This is a complete misunderstanding. The word minority is in relation to numbers in a state: this is a shifting and fluid category across the country. Biharis are a regional or linguistic minority in Maharashtra and Assam; while Hindus are a religious minority in seven states including Punjab, North-east and Jammu & Kashmir. Scheduled Castes are almost all Hindus and many Scheduled Tribes are Hindus." He adds, "The normal working of the law of the land is sufficient to protect the majority community from mass targeted violence and to ensure justice when it occurs because institutions of the state are on the side of the majority. The Domestic Violence Bill does not mean that husbands don't get beaten up, but the bill does not protect husbands as the normal law of the land would protect them." He gets endorsement from Congress spokesperson Manish Tewari: "Jaitley is giving the bill a communal twist and deliberately trying to spread misinformation. I am a Hindu from Punjab which makes me a minority and a protected species under this bill." Does this mean Hindus can never instigate a communal riot in Punjab and only Sikhs will be blamed? Says Tewari, "If, God forbid, there is a riot instigated by a minority community in any state, then they will be dealt with in accordance with ordinary law. If instigated by the majority in any state, then this bill would apply in addition to IPC."

The Congress has little choice but to toe the NAC line even though the bill has been drafted by a group of activists and civil society members. This is in sharp contrast to the cold shoulder meted out to Anna Hazare and company on the Lokpal draft. Says Salman Khurshid, Union minister for minority affairs, "An attempt to emphasise protection for a minority (and inclusion of linguistic minority means a vulnerable majority as well) is consistent with affirmative action under the Constitution. These are not departures from equality but the very effective implementation of equality."

The NAC had finalised an earlier draft of this bill on May 25. This was put up on its website for feedback. Since then, as many as 49 amendments have been made. But the definition of the vicitimised group has not been changed. Anticipating a backlash, the NAC has prepared a clarification: "The bill does not classify or assume any particular group to be the perpetrator of communal & targeted violence." BJP spokesperson Nirmala Sitharaman questions the "essential spirit with which the bill was drafted. It is in tandem with the Congress ideology of vote bank politics." With elections in Uttar Pradesh and Gujarat slated for next year, this is a charge that the Congress cannot duck.

One of the amendments made by the NAC in its second draft was to delete a clause that labelled incidents of communal violence as "internal disturbance" since this would fall under the ambit of Article 355 of the Constitution, giving the Centre the right to interfere. "This clause has been deleted because it mistakenly created a fear that it may interfere with the federal structure," said an NAC press release. Tewari defends this saying, "If you look at the Gujarat experience where for three months, with the active connivance of the state, people were raped, mobbed and lynched, there is a case for giving the Centre the right to intervene under Section 355. At least then you won't have the spectacle of a chief minister on a killing spree with a PM sleeping at the Centre."

The NAC's explanatory note says that "the bill is only concerned with ensuring that when the group under attack is non- dominant in that state, then the officers of the state machinery must not be allowed to let bias breach their impartiality". Explains Mander, "This bill does not create new offences except of public dereliction of duty. And this is the heart of the bill. Whether it was the violence in 1984, or later in Gujarat (in 2002), all these happened largely because the state failed to do its duty. The present laws are sufficient for states to protect their people, if they act. No riot can go on for more than a few hours without active complicity of the state." The proposed bill makes state officials criminally liable if they play a complicit role in mass violence, either by choosing not to act or acting in a prejudiced manner. Mander is at pains to point out that this is the cornerstone of the legislation and not the minority clause. Unfortunately for him, Jaitley's line that "the bill gives a virtual statutory declaration of innocent for a member of the minority community" is fast gaining currency.

Experts have questioned the need for a separate bill dealing with communal violence. Former Chief Justice of India J.S. Verma has pointed out that India already has the maximum number of laws in the world. "There is a need to identify the lacunae in the present laws, if any, and make amendments," he told the media.

"The existing law is good enough. What we need is good investigation and quick trial. An act of violence is adequately dealt with under the IPC. The motive of the act of violence, i.e. communal provocation, is relevant not for conviction but for punishment," says Supreme Court advocate Harish Salve. He adds, "Communities cannot be tried under criminal law. This law will only polarise the vote." Agrees sociologist Dipankar Gupta: "I believe all these are sops and diversion tactics. A law against inciting violence already exists. The question is not of a new bill but of implementing the law and being ruthless about it." He cites the example of the 1984 Sikh riots. "I recall an army general asking for one line from the Home Ministry to impose curfew. This didn't come. Similarly in Gujarat in 2002, there was administrative connivance," he says. In an indirect attack on the role of the NAC, he adds, "Some people want a spot in the sun and be a part of policy making. I call it the narcissism of policy." Clearly both the medium and the message have run into controversy. With the BJP determined to play up the minority clause, this may boomerang on the Congress.
Link

Ack thoo on this type of 'secularism'.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 02:56
by member_23629
^^^^^ At this rate, these congee traitors will force Hindu youth to become radicalised and tackle these "civil society" types like Mander in street justice. They are pushing Hindus too far.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 03:02
by member_23629
Sushupti wrote:
SamG wrote:Madanpura is a terrorist haven.If you go inside each house they have tunnels in them connecting different houses.After babri masjid issue the PAC kicked the mullahs so hard they were scared to even utter a word.
Yup. Mullahs in collusion with congi leadership (lead by Lokpati Tripathi) deviced a plan to kill as much as Hindus possible during Dushehera festival. Main guys were the two nephews of third rate Urdu poet (some Benarsi, i can't recall his name). Idea was to discredit BJP by showing that you aren't safe even with BJP and reclaim Varanasi back to Tripathi clan of Congress. As the procession was passing through the Madanpura area with minimal police presence (Lokpati managed to remove it using the loyalty of IPS/IAS officers towards Congress) peaceful goons attacked it. By chance two local inspectors were present nearby and they opened fire. Goons got confused and ran away, as they were promised no police retaliation and whole plot was foiled.

Kalyan Singh suspended the DM, SSP, IG police and ordered the encounter of the two top Jihadi leaders of the city. BJP hasn't lost since then except for 2004 when a significant section of BJP voter base, Brahmins decided to try their luck with Rahul Gandhi.
Only a Hindu of Congress can device such a diabolical plan to get fellow Hindus killed at the hands of Muslims for electoral gains.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 03:03
by kshatriya
If there are innocent Hindus who get slaughtered because of this bill, then the creators of such a Bill ought to pay a price... Honestly this is getting out of hand... I'm sure there are people already thinking like Gopal Pa-tha

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 03:28
by brihaspati
In Murshidabad in WB, the common law has never tackled or addressed the minority induced violence on the "majority". Where do the congrez spokespersons get their training in misrepresentation and outright denial?

RoyG, do you get why I think descent into chaos would be both unavoidable as well as a necessary process. The very people like Manish should be the first to taste what he is condoning. I know he is an otherwise good debater and rather rational in private. Don't know whether he is trying to be too loyal to cover the frustration underneath. If he is fed tidbits from the forum, hope he reads this and thinks while it is not too late.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 03:39
by nachiket
varunkumar wrote:^^^^^ At this rate, these congee traitors will force Hindu youth to become radicalised and tackle these "civil society" types like Mander in street justice. They are pushing Hindus too far.
Till now the Hindus haven't even bothered to vote these people out of power. And you think they are going to be moved enough to resort to street justice?

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 03:49
by brihaspati
What elections? most of these places - they are under the grip of unnamed fears of retaliations, economic, or physical - if they went against the p-sec line in voting. You never know when or how your bank loan could go awol, or your child kidnapped, or your area suffers more than average civil neglect say. In some cases, exemplary retaliations have been given as lessons - wife or sister or daughter raped for example. People are gripped with fear of the rashtryia machinery combined with the political+financier nexus power.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 04:02
by AkshayM
I was there just couple weeks back. On my part, I've been telling everyone I know in India to go out and vote and vote for a change. It is chaos and anarchy if it goes out of hand. It is clear state machinery and inaction/inability of law enforcement is aiding and abetting these crimes with no assurance of security for common folk. It will be lawless, and that soon.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 04:03
by ramana
Altair wrote:We are definitely missing some crucial information regarding the exodus. There seems to be a very concerted effort highly synced at top layers. Any theories?

States with non INC govts are playing wait and see. If they take action who knows what plans the Center has to remove them?

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 05:06
by shyamd
Guys please see Vicky Nanjappa.com , IB looking into the role of activists spreading rumours of assault and rape and circulating it among NE communities.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 05:26
by Victor
I guess now all those security guards who have left Bangalore, Hyderabad, Mumbai, Pune etc will have to be replaced by Bangladeshis who might make themselves available.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 06:20
by RoyG
Brihaspatiji, I always understood why descending into chaos is unavoidable. I just find it hard to believe that a pan-islamic movement can accept being part of the union.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 06:28
by brihaspati
They will not separate now. No need for them. They practically have the admin eating out of their hands. If they can play it properly, in their perception - they can colour all with the same brush. In that case they get a much better organized framework and "state" to base on than rump partitioned zones. There is practically no fear of any retaliation either.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 06:52
by RoyG
I also understand this point as well but wouldn't this cause a dharmic consolidation and thereby lead to a partition like situation? They can't just keep pushing and accept that hindus will just sit around and take it.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 06:58
by ramana
The consensus is no more division. They can peacefully leave but cannot demand any more land.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 07:50
by Cosmo_R
"Hans ke liya hai Pakistan lad ke lenge Hindustan". It's more like 'vote kar ke lenge Hindustan'.

We have Bangladeshi illegal immigrants in Mumbai rioting against Rohingya expulsions in Myanmar, even as Pakistani Hindus are fleeing their country to India and Muslims in Bangalore are threatening Hindus from the NE using SMS'.

Maybe SMS's need to go out in the other direction.

We are at a tipping point in India. The GoI cant deliver governance, external security or even protection for its majority internally.

Great stuff.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 08:09
by Hari Seldon
^^^ All through, somewhere inside, is the meagre but sure hope that should things worsen enough Hindus as Hindus will close ranks, organize, polarize and fight back. But the traces and precedents in our history of where this has happened has all but been wiped out. I fear it will be suhrawardy redux with Direct action day. They take all the action and we take the direct hit. And then nothing happens, its all communal peace and amity only.

Heck in Kannur and other districts adjoining Malappuram, we have not seen polarization and organization amongst the Yindooze, then is there any hope for a scale thing to fail when it goes national? The ROP have reason to believe they can and will win this round and the ones after it. Time, numbers and history is on their side after all, with each passing day.

I was among those that expected Oiropr to hit the circuit breaker way before India does. But seems like the timelines have collapsed with astonishing speed.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 08:21
by SBajwa
Annex bangladesh now!

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 08:26
by pentaiah
some times I wonder in which planet is BRF hosted.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 08:29
by RoyG
SBajwa wrote:Annex bangladesh now!
We are having trouble arresting a few muslim rioters and you expect us to annex a sh*t hole with 150 million of them?

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 08:33
by kshatriya
^^ The thought of adding another 170 million to our population is outright scary...

Spoke to a Mallu Friend. He says no chance of any fightback or organization in Mallapuram/Kozhikode/Kannur/Kasargod Belt... Most of them are now thinking of moving elsewhere in Kerala or Out of State...

HUJI has already established a good link with the local terrorist fronts...Tough times ahead

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 09:35
by Prem
brihaspati wrote:They will not separate now. No need for them. They practically have the admin eating out of their hands. If they can play it properly, in their perception - they can colour all with the same brush. In that case they get a much better organized framework and "state" to base on than rump partitioned zones. There is practically no fear of any retaliation either.
Sainya bhye kotwal tho Dar kahe kaa?
There is no fear of retaliation from the government , law enforcement or political power. Like Gujarat , it will, has to come from Public. No surprise, Gujarat and Punjab are not facing any "peace' problem. And
Lo behold, here in lies the clear signs for wise ones to follow.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 09:46
by Ambar
pentaiah wrote:some times I wonder in which planet is BRF hosted.
Planet where it was once mentioned that the yanks attacked OBL as they were afraid Indians would get there first ! :-?
How can we even think of solutions when we haven't identified the problems yet ?

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 10:02
by sum
I was among those that expected Oiropr to hit the circuit breaker way before India does. But seems like the timelines have collapsed with astonishing speed.
Somehow had a spider feeling since last few years that stuff would hit the fan first in Desh compared to the much lampooned UQ and Oirope.

Guess the curtain raisers have begun with the 15-20% population mass hit. Soon the real picture will start as the numbers start adding up to reach 25-30% of total population

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 10:53
by ramana
Hats off Pratik Das for posting this in the Intel thread on July 30 way before the sh&t the fan in August.
PratikDas wrote:Infiltration of illegal Bangladeshi Muslims into India courtesy the Congress Party.


Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 12:06
by RoyG
Pics of idol desecration by muslims in Lucknow, UP.

http://imgur.com/ytiUG

Meanwhile, Sagarika Ghose tweets:

http://twitter.com/mediacrooks/status/2 ... 12/photo/1

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 12:14
by member_23629
nachiket wrote:
varunkumar wrote:^^^^^ At this rate, these congee traitors will force Hindu youth to become radicalised and tackle these "civil society" types like Mander in street justice. They are pushing Hindus too far.
Till now the Hindus haven't even bothered to vote these people out of power. And you think they are going to be moved enough to resort to street justice?
You under-estimate the powerful influence on others of setting an example. Remember the copy cat self-immolations during the Mandal Commission days? Most people look up to someone to give them a direction. The day some Hindu youth take some action, ears of other youth in India will perk up.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 13:40
by Supratik
@sroy,

there is no need to split Assam or WB at this stage unless things get really bad. autonomous regions with tribal rights protected especially over land will do the job. unless INC forces settlers back the bodos have cleared part of the chicken's neck. if you read the "Mughalistan" BS the idea was to take over this region and separate NE from the mainland. dhubri and goalpara, bongaigaon are still full of illegal settlers. may be the Koch-Rajbonshis can team up with the Bodos and demand a joint autonomous region in the Western Assam. these are the two main tribal groups in the region although they are Hinduized. i still believe that most illegal settlers are economic migrants fleeing a basket-case country but are being used by Islamists for their purpose.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 15:26
by Sachin
Victor wrote:I guess now all those security guards who have left Bangalore, Hyderabad, Mumbai, Pune etc will have to be replaced by Bangladeshis who might make themselves available.
Brilliant point here. We really need to see who replaces the security guards who have left. If you see that lots of Bengalis taking up this job, then we know that the goose is cooked. In Kerala lots of Bengali labourers were infact illegal Bangladeshis (primarily Muslim). Kerala Police is now planning to check all the Bengali workers. Hope some CPI(M) idiot in Kerala do not start another ruckus here, by saying fellow commies from West Bengal should not be harassed.

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 16:24
by member_20317

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 17:07
by vijayk
http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=772375

Riots is UP over Assam riots. Curfew in Allahabad

Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 17:11
by nakul
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Re: Internal Security Watch

Posted: 18 Aug 2012 17:30
by shyamd
Bangalore police have picked up 3 people for spreading rumours relating to the exodus. Apparently one activist printed 10,000 leaflets. Exodus from BLR down to 40 people and railways has confirmed they have cancelled their special trains.

There is an exercise on now in major cities to tell the youth to stop by getting imams and 'community elders' to issue calls in all the mosques etc.