Re: PRC Economy News and Discussions-II
Posted: 14 Feb 2009 19:28
Deleted disrecpectful post towards the gentle regime in Beijing
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vaman wrote:Simple question, under chinese democracy are you allowed an opinion or not?
if so what do you have to say about this?None of you are answering this question, you probably dont even know about it1989: Massacre in Tiananmen Square
zengerl wrote:I feel it is not Chinese that are brain-washed. Chinese know Outside world a lot. It is those who are outside China who are brain-washed. It is like if they have a "democratic" government like UK or US, they have everything. Wake up, all those "democratic" African and Latin-American countries...
vaman wrote:So Comerade Mao now officially becomes Gay Mao
Well I dont know Chinese, neither do my politbureau members, why dont you give us your opinion NOW. I am asking for your opinion, not from any website. Does your 4 times greater GDP give you the same rights as a dark impoverished south Indian? Do you have an opinion at all.
vaman wrote:So Comerade Mao now officially becomes Gay Mao
Hi, he died more than thirty years ago.Raghav K wrote:vaman wrote:So Comerade Mao now officially becomes Gay Mao![]()
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Mrs zenboy, another BS post comparing China and India. I hope you know what "US guys" say about the chinese and China. Just wait till the economy gets worse and like Buffet mentioned "You only find out who is swimming naked when the tide goes out". The US will blame china for stealing their jobs and then the "tamasha" begins.zengerl wrote:PS: I myself don't agree with or endorse the following. But for your convenience, that is what some US guys say.
http://www.vdare.com/sailer/india.htm
We are not claiming anything out of thin air. We have gathered here to discuss the Chinese economy with perspectives from different people and around the world .In a democratic world, people have different views and POV's. If you still think you can brainwash BRfites by snooping in and showing us some crazy links, you are wasting your time.zengerl wrote:Think about it, if China is, like what you guys claim, a country with no freedom, you won't see all these post from China. I really hope you guys know Chinese so that you can go to Chinese websites and find out by yourself (even better if you can go to China and talk to Chinese by yourselves).
"Xiao Chen" is his online name. Along with his two colleagues, he does not want to reveal his true identity. The three belong to what some Western experts say is a civilian cyber militia in China, launching attacks on government and private Web sites around the world. Video Watch hackers' clandestine Chinese operation »
If there is a profile of a cyber hacker, these three are straight from central casting -- young and thin, with skin pale from spending too many long nights in front of a computer.
But again off-camera, Xiao Chen says after the alleged Pentagon attack, his colleagues were paid by the Chinese government.
China will continue to buy US Treasury bonds even though it knows the dollar will depreciate because such investments remain its “only option” in a perilous world, a senior Chinese banking regulator said on Wednesday.
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Luo Ping, a director-general at the China Banking Regulatory Commission, said after a speech in New York that China would continue to buy Treasuries in spite of its misgivings about US finances.
Mr Luo, speaking at the Global Association of Risk Management’s 10th Annual Risk Management Convention, said: “Except for US Treasuries, what can you hold?” he asked. “Gold? You don’t hold Japanese government bonds or UK bonds. US Treasuries are the safe haven. For everyone, including China, it is the only option.”
Mr Luo, whose English tends toward the colloquial, added: “We hate you guys. Once you start issuing $1 trillion-$2 trillion [$1,000bn-$2,000bn] . . .we know the dollar is going to depreciate, so we hate you guys but there is nothing much we can do.”
What Mr Luo said is truth!ArmenT wrote:As Mr. Liu suggested above, back to topic at hand:
China to stick with US bondsChina will continue to buy US Treasury bonds even though it knows the dollar will depreciate because such investments remain its “only option” in a perilous world, a senior Chinese banking regulator said on Wednesday.
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Luo Ping, a director-general at the China Banking Regulatory Commission, said after a speech in New York that China would continue to buy Treasuries in spite of its misgivings about US finances.
Mr Luo, speaking at the Global Association of Risk Management’s 10th Annual Risk Management Convention, said: “Except for US Treasuries, what can you hold?” he asked. “Gold? You don’t hold Japanese government bonds or UK bonds. US Treasuries are the safe haven. For everyone, including China, it is the only option.”
Mr Luo, whose English tends toward the colloquial, added: “We hate you guys. Once you start issuing $1 trillion-$2 trillion [$1,000bn-$2,000bn] . . .we know the dollar is going to depreciate, so we hate you guys but there is nothing much we can do.”
How about Pakistan?Liu wrote: What Mr Luo said is truth!
What else can China buy?
No. City GDP(2008) Growth(2008)
[100 million RMB] [%]
1 Shanghai 13698.15 9.7
2 Beijing 10488.03 9.0
3 Guangzhou 8215.82 12.3
4 Shenzhen 7806.54 12.1
5 Suzhou 6701.21 13.0
6 Tianjin 6354.38 16.5
7 Chongqing 5096.66 14.3
8 Hangzhou 4781.16 11.0
9 Qingdao 4436.18 13.2
10 Wuxi 4419.50 12.4
11 Foshan 4333.30 15.2
12 Ninbo 3964.05 10.1
13 Wuhan 3960.08 15.1
14 Chengdu 3900.99 12.1
15 Shenyang 3860.50 16.3
16 Dalian 3858.20 16.5
17 Nanjing 3775.00 12.1
18 Dongguan 3702.53 14.0
19 Tangshan 3561.2 13.0
20 Yantai 3434.19 13.6
21 Jinan 3017.42 13.0
22 Zhengzhou 3004.00 12.2
23 CHangsha 3000.98 15.1
So Xu, 79, and the others immediately heard the commotion when dozens of government cars and buses wound into Huaxi beginning at 4:30 a.m. on April 10, carrying an estimated 3,000 policemen and civilians assigned to destroy the tents. To alert people in this gritty farm town that police were pouring in, watchful residents set off fireworks by the hundreds.
For four years, they had been complaining that industrial pollution was poisoning the land, stunting the crops and fouling the water in their fertile valley surrounded by forested hills 120 miles south of Hangzhou. And now their protest -- blocking the entrance to an industrial park -- was being put down by force
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01531.htmlThe workers and peasants appear to have nowhere else to turn but the street. Their representatives in parliament do what the government says; independent organizations are banned in China's communist system; and party officials, focused on economic growth, have become partners of eager entrepreneurs rather than defenders of those abandoned by the boom
China's keenly awaited growth figures for the fourth quarter of 2008 were as clear as mud to most analysts, who were left struggling to work out what is really happening in the world's third-largest economy.
Experience has taught economists to take Chinese statistics with a pinch—if not a packet—of salt. The quality of the data may have improved in recent years, but it is conventional wisdom among China-watchers that the figures are prone to manipulation by a government intent on promoting stability and, hence, on minimising data volatility
His answer is that officials are juggling the data to set up a relatively firm statistical bounce in the second half of 2009. Other economists, by contrast, were puzzled that the fourth quarter was so strong given weakness in factory output and power generation. The latter fell 7.9% in December from a year earlier, marking the third straight monthly drop.
http://in.news.yahoo.com/241/20090123/1 ... -heat.htmlThe problem is that economists have to make do with piecemeal data. China's quarterly GDP report is a supply-based figure. It includes only a real year-on-year growth rate and a nominal yuan level. Unlike in most developed economies, there are no real, expenditure-based figures.
"This means there are no quarter-on-quarter, seasonally adjusted, changes in key GDP inputs, in particular, exports, residential investment, and household consumption, with which to assess the result," Simpfendorfer said.
First. Can you provide links that are not in Chinese. To re-educate you, Mandarin is not a universal language.Liu wrote:still pictures without carpets covered.
Here is a small town ,only several KMs aways from the village in the above post.
the small town is called Xinkai. the town can represent the development of most chinese countytowns outside Chinese coastal industrialized belt.
http://www.xici.net/u4342544/d50916842.htm
well, Huaxi town seems a rather rich village from the picture, doesn't it?Raghav K wrote:For Chinese, Peasant Revolt Is Rare Victory
So Xu, 79, and the others immediately heard the commotion when dozens of government cars and buses wound into Huaxi beginning at 4:30 a.m. on April 10, carrying an estimated 3,000 policemen and civilians assigned to destroy the tents. To alert people in this gritty farm town that police were pouring in, watchful residents set off fireworks by the hundreds.For four years, they had been complaining that industrial pollution was poisoning the land, stunting the crops and fouling the water in their fertile valley surrounded by forested hills 120 miles south of Hangzhou. And now their protest -- blocking the entrance to an industrial park -- was being put down by forcehttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01531.htmlThe workers and peasants appear to have nowhere else to turn but the street. Their representatives in parliament do what the government says; independent organizations are banned in China's communist system; and party officials, focused on economic growth, have become partners of eager entrepreneurs rather than defenders of those abandoned by the boom
Liu wrote: well, Huaxi town seems a rather rich village from the picture, doesn't it?
the villiage is located in ZHejiang province. The province per GDP surpassed 7000 USD (per nominal GDP) or 20000 USD( PPP)in 2008.
well, the link is a personal blog.Raghav K wrote:First. Can you provide links that are not in Chinese. To re-educate you, Mandarin is not a universal language.Liu wrote:still pictures without carpets covered.
Here is a small town ,only several KMs aways from the village in the above post.
the small town is called Xinkai. the town can represent the development of most chinese countytowns outside Chinese coastal industrialized belt.
http://www.xici.net/u4342544/d50916842.htm
Second. Everyone knows the media in China is State Controlled. Post your "Carpet ads" from media that is independent and outside your nation.
Frankly,it is not good to trust CNN or CCTV's news blindly.Raghav K wrote:Liu wrote: well, Huaxi town seems a rather rich village from the picture, doesn't it?
the villiage is located in ZHejiang province. The province per GDP surpassed 7000 USD (per nominal GDP) or 20000 USD( PPP)in 2008.![]()
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So many Chinese Massages. Feels great.