Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 2010

[Prem]

India should follow the fine example set by the GOTUS (GoI/MMS's role models and mai-baaps) and MMS should donate Rs1 on behalf of India( since small contributions make up large sums finally)

Baak ko unse hai Aid ki Ummeed
Jeehadi ko Kuffar se hai aid ki Ummeed
JInko kahte thai ki Terrorism kiya hai ?
Paki Phuuduon ko abb hua kya hai.

Last i heard flooding is YYY God's conspiracy against the best of Ummah trying to establish new Medina and Khalifart.

[amdavadi]

paki situtation reminds of song from movie navrang..


Na pakistan rahega, na assphuk rahega ye duniya hei pani, pani rahega. Yeh pani sabhi ke kahani kahega
Dikhayega buzdil pakistani o ke kahani, batayega ye pakistan ke duplicity kahani
Batayege woh Uss Raa agent mushraf ke kahani......ye pani sabhi ke kahani kahega

[Amber G.]

^^^ Seriously speaking why would she donate just $10. Is there a message in this?She could have just let it be.

Seriously (!) from the link posted in my post:

Talk about putting your money where your mouth is. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton texted a $10 donation to flood relief efforts in Pakistan

In her own words:

..Americans have always shown great generosity to people facing crises worldwide ...I just texted a contribution myself, ....

[kmkraoind]

IMO, US and India satellites might be working round the clock to watch closely abduls efforts of preserving their jewels.

[Manishw]

^^^ If there are any, which is doubtful IMO.Good to see might appearing in above post.

[Amber G.]

BTW - Shimati's Clinton's text-messaging donation campaign did gather about $12,000 .. American being generous and all that..
(As for Haiti - similar campaign(s) raised about $30,000,000)

So Now comes Hillal-e-Pakistan Shri Kerry ..
Hillal-e-Pakistan Shri Kerry to visit flood-hit Pakistan next week
To:

.. survey relief operations after major floods in a bid to show US commitment and raise public awareness to drum up donations, an official said Thursday.
Kerry, who heads the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and co-authored last year's 7.5 billion-dollar aid bill for Pakistan, will be the first senior US policymaker to visit ..
"This will be a critical visit to help raise the profile among publics both in the US and internationally" ...
.... private charity has been held back by a lack international media coverage and donor fatigue (may be apathy? )..

[saip]

^^^ Seriously speaking why would she donate just $10. Is there a message in this?She could have just let it be.

I wish she donated only that ten dollars but I know she must have donated more. We will know that only when we see her tax returns next year. This $10, she was just telling people how easy it is to send the donation. When you text there is no option to chose the amount.

[saip]

So Now comes Hillal-e-Pakistan Shri Kerry

I wonder how many bottles of ketchup he is taking with him. BTW is Ketchup halal?

[abhijitm]

Sridhar (and others)
. . . A nuclear bomb is a very precious item.

OTOH, they know pretty well that an attack on Israel or the US would certainly invite massive retaliation that will annihilate them. They may therefore be tempted to attack us in the hope that either India will dither or the world community would stop nuclear retaliation for worthless sanctions etc. and still keep a few nukes in store for later attack on the other two.

Their plans for the Jews and Christians would follow later.

This line from Shiv has triggered a new thought in me. While most of the time I agree with Sridhar.
A spectacular nuke attack on west can bring triumph to the entire islamic world. Same is not the case if India is a victim.
After hundreds of years of war/struggle Arabs, Afghans etc have become a breed like mosquitoes. You can kill them but cant exterminate. They have survived massive retaliation from the west since ages, they can in future. This is a continuous battle between these two mammoth ancient enemies. India is for dessert.

[abhijitm]

Pak in talks to recognise Israel, says report

looks like pigs are blackmailing arabs 'give us money or else...'

[A_Gupta]

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... t-Pakistan

India offered five million dollars in assistance to Pakistan on Friday to help its neighbour cope with devastating floods that have affected more than 14 million people. The offer came as aid agencies appealed to the international community to rush through 460 million dollars in help for Pakistan, warning of a potential "second wave" of deaths due to disease from the flooding. "India has offered the assistance for provision of relief material from India for the victims of the massive floods," the foreign ministry said in a statement. India's External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna had a telephone conversation with his Pakistani counterpart, Shah Mahmood Qureshi, and "conveyed deepest sympathies and condolence to the people of Pakistan," the statement said.

[Amber G.]

I wish she donated only that ten dollars but I know she must have donated more. We will know that only when we see her tax returns next year. This $10, she was just telling people how easy it is to send the donation. When you text there is no option to chose the amount.

Of course, we Americans are very generous! Besides, the PR value of it that matters!Now if you really haven't seen the actual text of Shrimati Clinton's appeal, not to mention accompanied by Shri Rajiv Shah (of USAID), { No, there is no hint of rubbing it in at the Paki - H&D and all those rumors of his background as SRDE is not relevant} I advise you to take a look (Vedio and text for both her and Shah's appeal and Q/A) at:
http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2010/08/145686.htm
You will notice, that Shrimati Clinton explicitly mentioned:

critical supplies ... hundreds of thousands of halal meals

{She did not say, if a kufr texts, of food comes from a kufr, would that be counted as 'halal'}
and:

In addition to the floods, a suicide bomber struck just a few hours ago near a major market in Peshawar killing three people,

{So that the donated money will not only be used for flood relief, but may be also , say, for rehabilitation of the suicide bomber's wife, may be as a wedding gift when she marries as a nth wife of the L-e-T paki}

{Notice also that in Q/A, no one could assure that the money sent would not be misused}

No wonder there is so much apathy.... If you really want to know that, listen to the first Q from the reporter to Smt Clinton. ( Hint: It wasn't about the asking about seriousness of flood, or how one can help) yes it was:

We can take a few questions if there are any.
SECRETARY CLINTON: He’s (Shri Shah) the expert. I’m going to let him answer your questions. Thank you.
QUESTION: (Inaudible.) How was the wedding?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Oh, it was wonderful. Thank you.

[krisna]

What explains the tight-fisted response to the Pakistan floods

An expert of baki psikology reminding all kuffrs to donate.
UK wkk

There has been a slow steady drip of negative media coverage of Pakistan since the 1980s, and if it lessened a little in the 90s as civilian governments went in and out of administration, it became inevitably tougher with the return of a military government, 9/11, the "growth" of Islamic extremist organisations in Pakistan, and the ins and outs of apparent ISI-sponsored terrorism in both Mumbai and Afghanistan.

Bakistan has negative coverage--- it is media's fault onlee.

BBC News online is not exempt from criticism. In its old format, the BBC online South Asia site had always run features and good news stories about India, but Pakistan coverage was pretty much limited to bombings, violence and hardship.

Any thing changed about beebeeeceee. look at the wording-- in its old format-- does that mean with more bakis in beebeeeceee it is more virulent anti india- not that it changes anything.

This is despite the fact that "India Shining" has a huge population of citizens living in poverty – see Chris Morris's shocking report in May for the BBC – and that hunger and neglect by government is the daily lot of 35% of the population – or 450 million people.

India also has its own homegrown insurgency. The Naxalite/Maoist "terrorists" in the north-east are a dangerous challenge to Indian stability, but this extremism – and its causes, which lie in poverty – escapes international censure. In July the UN index showed that there are more people in poverty in eight states of India than in the 26 countries of sub-Saharan Africa. There are finally suggestions in the press that the responsibility for lack of resolution of conflict in Kashmir over 60 years at present lies more firmly with India.

= = without which bakis wont eat food, drink water, breathe air or wash their musharraffs

Back in the UK, the communities of Pakistan descent, a large proportion of Mirpuri origin, have behaved in an exemplary fashion over the last decade.

When David Miliband commented in the Guardian, at the time of the incoming Obama administration, that the "war on terror" had been a mistake, I wrote to him to say that as he well knew, the "war on terror" had been a gross and disingenuous overstatement and that British citizens were tens of thousands of times more likely to die from car accidents, alcohol, obesity and heart disease than from terror attacks.

Typical WKK

Young Britons of Pakistani origin do not in general compound NHS hospital bills with alcohol abuse, knife crime (with a starting cost of £8,000 per patient to the NHS), nor go in for epidemics of petty crime, nor swallow the state's funds in out-of-work benefits and housing benefits.(very shoddy research-dear writer) The majority live in remarkably settled and productive communities. Family life is taken very seriously (read honor killings)and the success of efforts within communities to help young people through difficult pressures of the culture and politics of faith both external and internal to their communities are frankly miraculous (more bious more rape and kill kuffrs enjoy the booty).

symtoms of demented mind-

Moni Mohsin, particularly, told how on a recent visit to Lahore in February, while at the hairdressers and with some bombing recently in the city, her two stylists were chattering away above her head about the real worry, that it was Valentine's Day and you could not find little gold hearts anywhere but anywhere, as they had sold out in all the shops and bazaars.

shows bakis live and die by bombing. azaans of normal pissful life confirming they live in dar ul habab islam.

Pakistanis are subcontinental people, and are in many ways similar to their neighbours in India. They share cultural ties, history and – a personal view here – a great warmth of character that is unique to this part of the world. We are spectators to the difficulties that the subcontinent and particularly Pakistan is going through, but we could perhaps wonder at the wretched and unfounded image of Pakistan when viewed through the lens of the British media. And perhaps not be so surprised that having swallowed this over many years, the public find it hard to overcome their misgivings and to give.

Dear writer please do some research on internet before posting it.

As usual mango man has some kamments.

[Karna_A]

Well Karna_A mentioned in "Managing Pakistan failure" thread that an Indian guru had predicted in 82' "Sudden death of Communism, violent death of islamism and slow death of capitalism". Though I am trying to ask him name of this guru to read is literature.

Do you know of any Muslim Pakistani that has done a seminal research on an Indian Guru?(Improbable, but true). Your answer is there. If you do find it, don't post it here.

[Singha]

afaik part of northeast india had bad monsoon and part had one round of flood. so no major worries of severe flooding. we need BD to be ruled under a iron fist by the india-friendly elements of the BD army who are catching and handing over all the rats and bandicoots who had taken up residency there.

[krisna]

The "Great Mother"
explanation from experts about Indus anger on pakis.
If wish were horses--- hope Indus matha makes short work of the great baki civilization as soon as possible.
No soosai bums or new clear bums only pure halaal water

[Singha]

turds are always flushed down toilet using water alone.

[rsingh]

De de baba de............historical data..............no wonder world is tired





1947
Dec 22, 1947 - On December 22, 1947, a formal request was made in writing to the Prime Minister of Pakistan. In this letter the acts of aggression of Pakistan and the forms of aid given by Pakistan to the invaders were briefly stated and the Government of. Pakistan was ...On December 22, 1947, a formal request was made in writing to the Prime Minister of Pakistan. In this letter the acts of aggression of Pakistan and the forms of aid given by Pakistan to the invaders were briefly stated and the Government of. Pakistan was asked to call upon Pakistan nationals to cease participating in the attack on the Jammu and Kashmir State and to deny to the invaders: (1) all access to and use of Pakistan territory for operations against the Kashmir ...
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Jun 10, 1953 - to hike two miles to lug gas back the wheat available to Pakistan o her car, would create no additional governWhen she got home, the redhead I ment expenditure at this was in a fighting mood. She pointedly asked the to keep the car serviced, but he make available up to one million tons ...
From Ike Asks Pakistan Wheat Aid To Ease Famine There . - Related web pages
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1954
Feb 22, 1954 - KARACHI, Pakistan tan Monday ignored the com plaints and suspicion! of Soviet Russia and India and formally applied for US military aid. Both Pakistan's neighbors have protested the negotiations with the United States which preceded today's formal request for arms assistance. ...
From Pakistan Asks Military Aid . - Related web pages
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1961
Jul 13, 1961 - WASHINGTON — President ram-rod-straight Pakistan lea Mohammed Ayub Khan of Pakis President Ayub, who spoke in who was interrupted five tan, in a speech of rare candor, English, was given ovations fol times by applause and Wednesday told the United States lowed by accolades from Repub- ...
From Pakistan Asks Us Aid To Thwart Communism . - Related web pages
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1962
Nov 27, 1962 - Now he's In a 'rush to get American military aid. If he tries to pay, the terms very- lenient. Yet> it was Nehru, who denounced the United States for giving - military aid to this neighbor. Pakistan, which ignored isolation and joined the western alliance asks military help when life ...
From James Marlow .Nehru And Psychosis Of Fear . - Related web pages
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1965
Sep 8, 1965 - PAKISTAN, INDIA CITIES BOMBED-Wild jet battles. raged-al day;and bombers carried death and destruction to Pakistani and Indian cities in a fiercely escalating air war. (Story on Page 1.) PAKISTAN ASKS US AID-Paklitan's foreign minis- , ' that.the escalating war with India would test the ...
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1971
Dec 12, 1971 - ... *-Sen. Frank Church (D-Ida.) said Saturday West Pakistan had asked the United States for "substantial quanti- ties" of military aid and President Nixon was se - rious I y considering granting the request. In a brief Senate speech, Church said "usually sources" had told him of the appeal ...
From W. PAKISTAN REPORTEDLY ASKS US AID - Related web pages
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1979
Apr 1979 - The US Congress imposed a ban on Pakistan's aid programme in April 1979 because of the country's refusal to halt its nuclear programme. The Congressional order to cut off Pakistan's economic and military assistance had further convinced Pakistan of American ...The US Congress imposed a ban on Pakistan's aid programme in April 1979 because of the country's refusal to halt its nuclear programme. The Congressional order to cut off Pakistan's economic and military assistance had further convinced Pakistan of American bias. The Carter administration cut off all development assistance, as well as commodity loans, except those covering food under PL-480 (a long-standing US aid instrument which provides surplus American food grains ...
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1980
Jan 21, 1980 - Washington, DC President Carter— urged Congress on Monday to meet "some of the most serious challenges in the history of the nation" by approving a arger, billion defense budget as well as a large military-aid package for Pakistan and other nations on the rim of Soviet powe . a written ...
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1987
Dec 17, 1987 - On Dec. 17, 1987, President Ronald Reagan certified to Congress that "Pakistan does not possess a nuclear explosive device." The president is required to do so each year to justify US aid to Pakistan. But the statement was highly misleading . In fact ...On Dec. 17, 1987, President Ronald Reagan certified to Congress that "Pakistan does not possess a nuclear explosive device." The president is required to do so each year to justify US aid to Pakistan. But the statement was highly misleading . In fact, administration officials have told Congress that Pakistan has all the components, as well as the technical ability, to assemble nuclear weapons quickly.
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1988
Jan 15, 1988 - 72] President Reagan has certified three times to the US Congress that Pakistan has no nuclear explosive devices. Despite the Pervez smuggling case, the President on January 15, 1988, also waived the requirement of the Solarz Amendment for an aid cutoff to ...The Reagan Administration , nevertheless, has continued military and economic aid to Pakistan, a key US ally, by waiving the nonproliferation provisions of the Foreign Assistance Act.[72] President Reagan has certified three times to the US Congress that Pakistan has no nuclear explosive devices. Despite the Pervez smuggling case, the President on January 15, 1988, also waived the requirement of the Solarz Amendment for an aid cutoff to a country found trying to ...
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From Leventhal & Chellaney: Nuclear Terrorism in South Asia - Related web pages
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1990
Oct 1, 1990 - On October 1, 1990, however, the United States suspended all military assistance and new economic aid to Pakistan under the Pressler Amendment, which required that the President certify annually that Pakistan "does not possess a nuclear explosive device."
From Pakistan - Related web pages
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1998
May 29, 1998 - It was on May 29, 1998, a day after Pakistan conducted its nuclear tests, that the Government of Japan, in view of the principles of the ODA Charter, declared that; 'Grant aid for new projects will be frozen, except emergency and humanitarian aid and Grant ...It was on May 29, 1998, a day after Pakistan conducted its nuclear tests, that the Government of Japan, in view of the principles of the ODA Charter, declared that; 'Grant aid for new projects will be frozen, except emergency and humanitarian aid and Grant Assistance for Grassroots Projects; Yen loan to Pakistan for new projects will be frozen; the Government will cautiously examine the loan programs to Pakistan by international financial institutions'.
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2001
Sep 27, 2001 - O'HARA: Under the sanctions already lifted, Pakistan now is eligible to buy military equipment and receive non-humanitarian economic aid. Yesterday, with US approval, the International Monetary Fund released $135 million, the final tranche of a one-year loan to Pakistan. ...
From … Analysis: United Nations asks the international community to aid Pakistan … - Related web pages
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2003
Jun 2003 - Pakistan received more than $1.5 billion in US assistance for FY2002 and FY2003. In June 2003, President Bush pledged to work with Congress on establishing a five-year, $3 billion aid package for Pakistan to begin in FY2005. See also CRS Report ...Congress has granted the President authority to waive coup-related sanctions on Pakistan through FY2004. Pakistan received more than $1.5 billion in US assistance for FY2002 and FY2003. In June 2003, President Bush pledged to work with Congress on establishing a five-year, $3 billion aid package for Pakistan to begin in FY2005. See also CRS Report RS21584, Pakistan: Chronology of Recent Events, CRS Report RS21299, Pakistan's Domestic Political ...
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2005
Nov 18, 2005 - By Khalid Qayum - November 18, 2005 11:23 EST Nov. 18 (Bloomberg) -- As many as 80 delegations from donor countries and agencies may attend a conference tomorrow in Pakistan to try to raise $5.2 billion the government says is needed to rebuild cities hit by last month's earthquake. ...
From Pakistan Hosts Quake Aid Meeting; Annan Asks for Aid (Update2) - …
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2007
May 12, 2007 - Therefore the Pakistan Peoples Party asks the Judiciary to come to the aid of the citizens in accordance with the Constitution and take suo moto notice of the events of May 12, 2007. The least that can be done to restore public confidence following the ...Therefore the Pakistan Peoples Party asks the Judiciary to come to the aid of the citizens in accordance with the Constitution and take suo moto notice of the events of May 12, 2007. The least that can be done to restore public confidence following the irretrievable breakdown of the constitutional machinery is to hold a suo moto inquiry into those who colluded or conspired in the murder and arson that stained the streets of Karachi scarlet on one of the blackest days of ...
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From ONLINE - International News Network
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2008
Jan 3, 2008 - 3 Jan 2008 - Pakistan Asks Scotland Yard to Aid Bhutto Probe (LA Times) - Faced with mounting international pressure, "President Pervez Musharraf announced yesterday that Pakistan had invited Scotland Yard to help investigate the killing."
From Assassination of Benazir Bhutto - Related web pages
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2009
Jun 24, 2009 - June 24, 2009. This bill would provide aid to Pakistan but does not include conditions regarding. the nuclear nonproliferation or nuclear weapo Retrieved from "http://www.articlesbase.com/internation ... rn-concern -over-security-of-pakistan039s-nuclear ...
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2010
May 8, 2010 - Clinton hints at more US aid for Pakistan May 8, 2010 The United States wants and expects more from Pakistan in the fight against insurgents and is ready to offer additional assistance if Islamabad asks, two senior Obama administration officials said on ...Clinton hints at more US aid for Pakistan May 8, 2010 The United States wants and expects more from Pakistan in the fight against insurgents and is ready to offer additional assistance if Islamabad asks, two senior Obama administration officials said on Friday. Barack Obama “We've gotten more cooperation and it's been a real sea change in the commitment we've seen from the Pakistan gover […]
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From Funny Indian Look « THE PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN
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[rsingh]

The Central Emergency Response Fund (CERF) is a humanitarian funding mechanism established by the United Nations to enable more timely and reliable assistance to victims of natural disasters and armed conflicts. It was approved by the United Nations General Assembly on 15 December 2005 and launched in March 2006.

Rank Countries Amount
# 1 United Kingdom: $70,000,000.00
# 2 Canada: $17,000,000.00
= 3 Netherlands: $11,903,360.00
= 3 Ireland: $11,903,360.00
= 5 Spain: $10,000,000.00
= 5 United States: $10,000,000.00
# 7 Denmark: $8,100,000.00
# 8 Australia: $7,328,894.00
# 9 Korea, South: $5,000,000.00
# 10 Finland: $4,900,000.00
# 11 Switzerland: $2,475,158.00
# 12 India: $2,000,000.00
= 13 Belgium: $1,190,336.00
= 13 France: $1,190,336.00
# 15 China: $1,000,000.00
# 16 South Africa: $300,000.00
# 17 Kuwait: $200,000.00
# 18 Iceland: $150,000.00
= 19 Greece: $100,000.00
= 19 Nigeria: $100,000.00
# 21 Mexico: $50,000.00
# 22 Estonia: $24,000.00
# 23 Pakistan: $20,000.00
# 24 Egypt: $15,000.00
# 25 Sri Lanka: $10,000.00
= 26 Armenia: $5,000.00
= 26 Croatia: $5,000.00
= 26 Qatar: $5,000.00

[archan]

rsingh jee,
You have put forward the entire history of paki begging! good one!
paki lurkers, please keep this list as a gift from BRF.
Then they wonder why the world treats them like people treat an irritating beggar on the street.

[rsingh]

[rsingh]

From Japan Times online

Pakistan's aid-addicted economy needs reform

By SHAHID JAVED BURKI

LAHORE — U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's just-concluded visit to Islamabad — for the second session of the strategic dialogue that she and her Pakistani counterpart, Shah Mehmood Qureshi, launched in Washington earlier this year — brought some comfort to her hosts. The United States promised to provide $500 million of funding for several "highly visible" projects in Pakistan. This was to be part of the $1.5 billion allocated to Pakistan in legislation signed by U.S. President Barack Obama last year.

The day before Clinton arrived in Islamabad, the Friends of Democratic Pakistan met there. An earlier meeting of the group was chaired by Obama on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly session in New York last year. It was attended by then-Prime Minister Gordon Brown of Britain, the heads of the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, and government ministers from several countries.

At the Islamabad meeting, the FDP agreed to provide financing for Pakistan's energy-development program, and requested proposals from the Pakistanis for the development of other sectors considered vital for the economy.

A few days before that, President Asif Ali Zardari paid his fifth visit to Beijing since taking office in August 2008 — this one a state visit — and received pledges of support for developing nuclear power and constructing a railway line over the Karakoram mountain range, linking the two countries. This would facilitate western China's access to the sea, via the Pakistani port of Gwadar.

These promises and pledges underscore Islamabad's growing dependence on foreign assistance, which is not surprising, given that Pakistan's tax-to-GDP ratio has declined to less than 9 percent, the lowest among the 22 largest emerging economies. They also suggest the continuance of a sort of moral-hazard approach to economic management that ensures foreign help whenever the country drives itself to the edge of an abyss.

Today, Pakistan is Asia's worst-performing economy. Its GDP growth rate of 3 percent is half that of Bangladesh and one-third that of India. And, while there is a good chance that this latest infusion of foreign money will help the country to pull out of a deep economic crisis, it will simply be history repeating itself. Pakistan does well when it receives large flows of foreign assistance, as in the 1960s, during President Ayub Khan's term in power; the 1980s, when Gen. Zia-ul-Haq ran the country; or the early 2000s, when Gen. Pervez Musharraf was in charge.

During these three periods of military rule, the country was able to align itself quickly with the U.S. In the 1960s, America wanted Pakistan to be on its side as it sought to contain the spread of communism in Asia. In the 1980s, the U.S. wanted Pakistan to help it force the Soviet Union out of Afghanistan. After the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the U.S. wanted Pakistan to help end Taliban rule in Afghanistan.

Now, for the first time, the U.S. is providing large amounts of assistance to a democratic government. Will this relationship help Pakistan get off the economic roller coaster it has been riding for the last half-century?

To ensure that its economy's performance is no longer dictated by the availability of foreign aid, Pakistan must undertake some fundamental restructuring. If carried out by a representative government, such economic reforms have a better chance of being sustained. On the other hand, there is no assurance that the right policies would be maintained if power once again passed to a military ruler.

The foreign governments that are currently engaging Pakistan should encourage its leaders to move forward on at least two related fronts: trade and better relations with India are crucial.

At independence more than 60 years ago, Pakistan had a larger trade-to-GDP ratio, owing in part to trade with India. That came to a sudden stop in 1949, as a result of the first of many trade wars that the two countries have fought.

Before 1949, India absorbed roughly 60 percent of Pakistan's exports and accounted for 70 percent of its imports. Nowadays, India accounts for less than 5 percent of Pakistan's total trade turnover.

This is contrary to what would be predicted by the so-called gravity model of trade, which is based on both the size of the trading partner and its distance. According to this model, China and India, not the U.S., should be Pakistan's largest trading partners. Thus, Pakistan should not devote so much of its energy to improving its access to the U.S. textile market, as it now does. Indeed, given competition from low-wage economies such as Bangladesh and Cambodia, Pakistan should abandon its focus on textiles altogether and expend much greater effort to develop its knowledge-based industries.

Another area of emphasis for donor dialogue with Pakistan is governance — not just reducing and controlling corruption, but also bringing policymaking closer to the people. Long stretches of military rule, with its emphasis on command and control, has left policymaking in Pakistan highly centralized. More power needs to be devolved to the provinces.

Today's democratic government has taken a step in this direction by amending Pakistan's constitution. The country's "friends" should encourage this effort, perhaps by requiring that the country's provinces be given a voice in their dialogue with Zardari's government.

Foreign donors must insist that Pakistan reform its economy in order to escape the moral hazard implied by continued dependence on aid flows. But that outcome is much more likely if democracy flourishes throughout the country.
Shahid Javed Burki, a former finance minister of Pakistan, and vice president of the World Bank, is currently chairman of the Institute of Public Policy, Lahore. © 2010 Project Syndicate

[A_Gupta]

^^^

Thus, Pakistan should not devote so much of its energy to improving its access to the U.S. textile market, as it now does. Indeed, given competition from low-wage economies such as Bangladesh and Cambodia, Pakistan should abandon its focus on textiles altogether and expend much greater effort to develop its knowledge-based industries.

Pakistan should indeed concentrate on textiles, because in five years, especially on the current trajectory, Bangladesh won't be able to compete with Pakistani textiles.

[A_Gupta]

Are these numbers verifiable?
http://criticalppp.com/archives/21229

In Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, only 350 kilometers out of 5000 km survive.
Only 7 out of 280 bridges are left.

So far Prime Minister’s fund has received just Rs. Four million!

[sanjaykumar]

If wish were horses--- hope Indus matha makes short work of the great baki civilization as soon as possible.


Sad to admit but it is unspoken that poonya bhumi has tried to shake them off (2005) and now has tried to flush then into the sea. Maybe there is something to this Gaia/dharti-maa stuff (sound of creepy music).

[Lalmohan]

right now, lots of pak op ed writers are getting air time on western media, and the gora wkk's are also joining in - lots of pure paqui propaganda hitting the newsprint and airwaves. Kore issue is being brought to the fore as much as possible - as in "south asia could be sooooooooooo much better if only K was resolved"

my standard response from now is "yes i agree, K should be resolved. I henceforth urge the pakistani government to withdraw troops from the parts of J&K that it erroneously occupies and return the territories to the legally aceded to Indian authorities, who will ensure integration with the greater Indian economy and bring about a peaceful and rapid growth of the GDP and welfare of all the people's of Jammu, Kashmir, Ladakh and the Northern Territories. That would be a wonderful resolution and allow the Pakistani government to reduce its military spending and devote more resources to development, welfare and flood protection for its people who are desperately in need in these difficult times"

[James B]

Latest figure from BBC on Pakistan's flooded districts. It seems nearly 2/5ths of TSP is under water.

[A_Gupta]

http://us.asiancorrespondent.com/fiveru ... o-your-job

Crying about journalistic double standards.

[Manishw]

If wish were horses--- hope Indus matha makes short work of the great baki civilization as soon as possible.


Sad to admit but it is unspoken that poonya bhumi has tried to shake them off (2005) and now has tried to flush then into the sea. Maybe there is something to this Gaia/dharti-maa stuff

I am myself thinking along these lines for some days.Keeping my fingers crossed.

[sanjaykumar]

Sindhu and Himalaya have been venerated since Vedic times-by those who deify them and, in my opinion, love them as only pantheists can love nature.

[RajeshA]

Thus, Pakistan should not devote so much of its energy to improving its access to the U.S. textile market, as it now does. Indeed, given competition from low-wage economies such as Bangladesh and Cambodia, Pakistan should abandon its focus on textiles altogether and expend much greater effort to develop its knowledge-based industries.

I can't imagine that a finance minister and a former World Bank Vice President would say something like that.

In a poor highly-populated country like Pakistan, textile industry is one of the most suitable industries, to sustain a big labor force, especially if the manufacturing base is narrow, and literacy is down.

Or is Mr. Burki following the Americans. They start a war, can't win it decisively, so they declare victory and go on to the next war. Similarly it seems, Pakistan is on verge of losing out completely in the market for textiles, so the economic pundits declare that the fight for market-share is not worth the benefits, so on to the next industry - the service industry, the knowledge industry.

When one thinks about it, it is not an American model of development, but rather a Pakistani model, of somehow stumbling from crisis to crisis, without resolving anything. Since it seems to be a very successful political model, the Pakistanis have now thought they should reproduce the success in economic field as well, so let's jump from one industry to another, until we come back to the IT (international terrorism) industry.

[Manishw]

Sindhu and Himalaya have been venerated since Vedic times-by those who deify them and, in my opinion, love them as only pantheists can love nature.

Pakjab has to be closely watched because if mother wants to give a stunner Dharmic blow, it will flood pakjab.

Added Later:
However who am I to say, the mother works are known only to the mother.

[Amber G.]

http://us.asiancorrespondent.com/fiveru ... o-your-job

Crying about journalistic double standards.

Some one replied there:

The world should love Pakistan, why?

The Friday Times had reported:

Peshawar weekly Al Qalam stated that Al Rehmat Trust had ended its two month campaign to collect ushr from farmers all over Pakistan. Ushr is 10 percent of the farm produce. Already in South Punjab most religious institutions close down in order to go out and collect ushr. The money is spent on the wounded mujahideen and on families of the martyred mujahideen. (Ushr, which means ten, is collected at 10 percent from rain-fed areas and 5 percent from canal-fed areas. In Pakistan the rate for rain-fed areas is 5 percent while the barani areas are exempted.)

----

Al Rehmat Trust is a front for the Jaish-e-Mohammed.

Has Al Rehmat Trust returned the ushr to the flood-affected?

Should we non-Pakistanis support in their time of distress those who in their time of prosperity donate to mujahideen?

[James B]

Pakistan floods: an emergency for the West (not for Pakistan??)

Unless we act decisively, large parts of flood-stricken Pakistan will be taken over by the Taliban, writes Ahmed Rashid.

The most popular comment to Ahmed Rashid's article says that mango UKstanis are mighty pissed off with Pakis.

by ericalaup

It's nice to see that a lot of people are not blinded by the rubbish that the author of this article, and others like him, spout out about 'poor' Pakistan.

You can buy Red Cross stoves and tents on the streets of Karachi, you know... the ones that were donated by the west about 5 years ago for the earthquake victims up north?

I have spent 2 years working over here - needs must, I'm afraid - so I do have a fairly good idea about the general state of things?

Don't send a damned penny over here.

Billions and billions of dollars/pounds have been poured into this place, for what? We need to concentrate on our own internal affairs - let this lot get on with it. If they sorted themselves out and spent less time messing about with bombs and bullets, you know, doing things like building an infrastructure and getting the law to work, then perhaps they might get ahead.
But no, it's all somebody else's fault - it's all India's fault, or the west's fault, or...

India are on the up and that's just the way it should be.

What a bunch of jokers, living in a comedy world of rank corruption, bigotry, racialism, sexism and filth. You would be better off being a donkey than a woman over here.

And now what: 'Hey if you guys don't help us, then... well, then there's gonna be trouble...' Well excuse us if the answer to that starts with a capital 'Eff' and ends with an 'off'!

This is the only time I have ever posted and will most likely be the last, but this article makes my blood boil!

We should get as far away from these people as is possible and - whilst we're at it - tell those of them who live in the UK to wind their necks in, too. We've got the blood of our children pouring into the soil of Afghanistan - I worked there as well - and where do you think the majority of those who attack us come from?

We're at war over here, people need to remember that, and this place is resupply central.

It's no wonder we have never seen any extra terrestrials - they probably landed here, took one look out of the window and thought: "Bugger this, we'll come back in a thousand years..."

This place is hell, take it from me.
Keep your money for a cause worth helping.

Read comments by sorting it by popularity. It shows mango Britishers hatred towards TSPians.

I do admire your style though,"get out of our muslim lands but leave your wallets behind" How many people would have the brass balls to wave the begging bowl in front of the very people they have been drumming up hatred against and trying to attack it's citizens and expect a positive response?

Pakistan has made an art out of living on alms for almost all of its independant existence and making virtue out of it. This article is yet another in the long line of vintage pakistani tactics. British educated pakistanis conducting compassion inducing journalistic tours, tugging at the heartstrings of west and appealing for alms (a part of which will dutifully be spent in waging jehad against the donors).

In a large local supermarket last weekend, every checkout, (at least 12), had a bucket for the Pakistan floods appeal.
The response was very low, most of the buckets were empty.
I returned a few hours later, the buckets had been removed. When I asked the checkout girl why, she said that there was another appeal by the fire brigade, (no sign of them), and that they could not have 2 appeals at the same time.
I believe that the negative response by the normally generous British public, is as a result of 7/7, the Luton protests by Muslim extremists spouting hatred at returning British soldiers , the preachers of hate,i.e Anjem Choudary, Omar Bakri and Abu Hamza who have been allowed to call for death and destruction on our streets and the general feeling amongst the British that the Pakistanis and Muslims in particular hate us and our way of life, but are prepared to live in this country and take whatever benefits it provides, without giving anything back.I believe if this disaster had happened anywhere else the response would have shown once again the generosity of the general public.

While India is aiming for MOON AGE,
Pakistan is aiming for STONE AGE. That’s the BIG difference!

It really pathetic .. all pakistanis from Taliban to ISI to Ahmed Rashid speak the same language ..

"Give us money or else .."
"Give us UK visas or else .."
"Give us Kashmir or else .."
"Talk to our terrorists or else .."

[Kamboja]

Pakistan's aid-addicted economy needs reform

By SHAHID JAVED BURKI
Pakistan does well when it receives large flows of foreign assistance, as in the 1960s, during President Ayub Khan's term in power; the 1980s, when Gen. Zia-ul-Haq ran the country; or the early 2000s, when Gen. Pervez Musharraf was in charge.

Wait, wait, give this humble SDRE kaffir a minute to wrap his little head around this... you mean to say that when Pakis get free money... they have more money?!?!?!

AoA! Truly I am dumbfounded by this blindingly brilliant Packee. How many years of study and degrees in Islamic Banking did it take for this genius to derive this amazing theorem?

[A_Gupta]

By SHAHID JAVED BURKI
Pakistan does well when it receives large flows of foreign assistance,

Shahid Javed Burki left out a crucial word: only

Pakistan does well only when it receives large flows of foreign assistance.

[krisna]

http://us.asiancorrespondent.com/fiveru ... o-your-job

Crying about journalistic double standards.

Some one replied there:

The world should love Pakistan, why?

The Friday Times had reported:

Peshawar weekly Al Qalam stated that Al Rehmat Trust had ended its two month campaign to collect ushr from farmers all over Pakistan. Ushr is 10 percent of the farm produce. Already in South Punjab most religious institutions close down in order to go out and collect ushr. The money is spent on the wounded mujahideen and on families of the martyred mujahideen. (Ushr, which means ten, is collected at 10 percent from rain-fed areas and 5 percent from canal-fed areas. In Pakistan the rate for rain-fed areas is 5 percent while the barani areas are exempted.)

----

Al Rehmat Trust is a front for the Jaish-e-Mohammed.

Has Al Rehmat Trust returned the ushr to the flood-affected?

Should we non-Pakistanis support in their time of distress those who in their time of prosperity donate to mujahideen?

Dus percenti laughing all way to swiss bank, as 2/5 of bakis in rain fed areas now. Bumper harvest.

[sanjaykumar]

I think the proper way to phrase it is: Pakistan waves a brass begging bowl with one hand and a gun with the other.

[RajeshA]

Flooded out by Mujahid Eshai: Daily Times

Certain matters need to be categorically and clearly stated. The first is that we must thank the IMF for its immense ‘contribution’ and tell them to take a hike. We should tell them and other such merchants of debt that they should forget what they have given us for a very long time, as Pakistan’s priority today, more than ever, is to reconstruct and rehabilitate its people.

Pakistan is closing shop. No more repaying. No more borrowing. Pakistan is claiming insolvency.

[A_Gupta]

TFT excerpts (not representative excerpts, just what amused me)

1. Najam Sethi's editorial

We should not expect too much from the international community. It is in the midst of a bad recession. Europe is trying to raise billions of Euros to bail out Greece and Co. The US remains our biggest aid-giver but is weighed down by its foreign adventures, especially in Afghanistan, and cannot even finance its own health care reform bill. But where is China, our “best friend”, and where is the Organisation of Islamic Conference, our fellow Muslim compatriots? China has hundreds of trillions of dollars in surpluses invested in US securities, properties and banks, and the OIC is flush with black gold. Raising a billion dollars for us in these hard times is peanuts for them. Why are they conspicuous by their absence? Why is our media shy of exhorting them to cough up when it is always ready to berate the US even when it is shoveling money into our laps?

2. Khaled Ahmed on Karachi:

Almost 75 per cent of the city’s population lives in settlements or neighbourhoods segregated on the basis of ethnicity. This is not just true of low-income settlements but also of lower middle-income and some middle-income settlements as well. As such, the city is physically divided along ethnic lines and, in an increasing number of cases, along religious lines as well. Crossing from one ethnically defined neighbourhood to the other is, in many cases, no longer possible’.

and

The fact is that Pakistan is becoming gradually ungovernable owing to its ‘ideological’ decision–making at the top. (It is also called India-centrism.)

3. Huma Yusuf on Karachi:

Te Pentagon counts Karachi among the “feral, failed cities” that are expected to be the battlefields of the 21st century.

For example, according to the Interior Ministry, 80% of all bank robberies in Karachi in 2009 could be traced back to FATA-based individuals with links to the Taliban.

4. From Nuggets:

According to Saleem Safi in Jang if the Americans leave Afghanistan Pakistan will find itself in deep trouble. The Taliban will get back to Kabul and indulge again in civil war, one group supported by Pakistan, the other by India. The situation will revert to what it was before 2001.

Quoted by Jinnah secretary general South Asian Free Media Association (SAFMA) Imtiaz Alam said that Pakistan could live without Kashmir but not without water, but the water issue with India was being handled by illiterate people in Pakistan and by those interested parties who don’t want to live in peace with India and wanted to make money out of it. He said Pakistan had tried to fight India; it should also try to normalise with India.

Columnist Nazir Naji wrote in Jang that the army tried very hard to get its courses recognised as MA degrees but failed as the universities refused to accept them as degrees. Musharraf himself was a holder of a diploma from the army. General Ayub wanted Punjab University to accept army degrees but did not succeed, then got Peshawar University to recognise them for a time.