Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Mar. 29, 2011

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 08 Apr 2011 10:44

. . . . a brief digression focussing on four principal aspects of the Wahhabi-Deobandi ideology and the permanent mood it creates in its followers is in order here. The first aspect of the Wahhabi-Deobandi ideology that needs to be considered in this regard is the fact that it is premised on a fanatic insistence that it alone represents the truth, and that all other belief systems, including other versions of Islam, are fatally false. This belief, a cardinal aspect of the ideology of Wahhabi-Deobandism, necessitates the constant promotion of hatred towards others, both other Muslims as well as non-Muslims. All non-Wahhabi-Deobandis are branded together as supposed ‘enemies’— of Muslims, of Islam and of God.

They are often depicted as sinister ‘friends of the devil’, as allegedly constantly engaged in ‘conspiracies’ to distort and destroy the ‘true believers’ faith. All manner of conspiracy theories are invented to reinforce this bogus belief that has no sanction in the holy Quran and is also completely at odds with the universal love preached by the true exemplars of Islam, the Sufis. Muslims (by which is meant adherents of Wahhabi-Deobandism) must always remain in a state of alert, constantly defensive of their faith, because, it is repeated ad nauseum by the clerics of this creed, the ‘unbelievers’ never spare a moment in their ceaseless ‘plots’ against them and their faith.

Keeping this in mind, it is easy to recognise how and why the Wahhabi-Deobandi is, by definition, a principle factor for what is called Islamophobia, which has grown alongside the exponential expansion of Wahhabi-Deobandism in recent years, in part as a reaction to it. Wherever the supremacist Wahhabi-Deobandi ideology has spread, it has invariably provoked mounted opposition to Muslims and Islam, for it is premised on a firm opposition to cordial relations with others. In societies where Muslims and others lived together in peace and harmony for centuries, where Sufis were the vehicle for the spread of Islam, attracting scores of non-Muslims, too, to their learning circles and shrines, this poisonous ideology has succeeded in fomenting communal hatred and violence and creating deep-rooted animosities to Islam where they did not exist before.

Linked to this inherent maniacal tendency of Wahhabism-Deobandism that rests on generating unrelenting hostility towards the rest of humanity is a second aspect of the Wahhabi-Deobandi ideology — its utter intellectual poverty. This has caused havoc for the state of scientific and creative thought and imagination among Muslims infected by this virus the world over. The Wahhabi-Deobandi ideology is based on an unthinking assent to the dictums of half-baked mullahs, who are viscerally averse to any innovative thinking, to any idea outside their narrow and extremely suffocating self-created framework. Wherever this ideology has spread, often with the help of hefty petro-dollar financing, Muslims have suffered an immense intellectual, besides moral, decline.

Linked to the two above-mentioned aspects of Wahhabism-Deobandism is a third aspect of this pernicious ideology: a marked tendency to blame others (non-Muslims as well as other Muslims) for all the ills of the Muslims, and a stunning refusal to introspect, to recognise the Muslims’ culpability both for their own decline as well as for the sufferings that Muslims may have caused for others. This is yet another aspect of Wahhabism-Deobandism that sets it neatly apart from the ‘inner Islam’ of the Sufis, which is based on the search within and what is called the ‘blaming of the self’.

A fourth aspect of the ideology of Wahhabi-Deobandism is its total lack of humour. It stands for a stultifying, dehumanising way of life, morose, haunting and tomb-like, deadening in its utter seriousness, harshness and brutality. If the joy shared by the Sufis was one of the many gifts that attracted scores of non-Muslims to Islam, the brutal gravity of the Wahhabi-Deobandis drives non-Muslims to the other extreme, repelling them far from Islam. All things of beauty and joy are considered anathema in the ideology of Wahhabi-Deobandism — be it song and dance, art and creativity, and even simple occasions for harmless fun, as I will now explain, such as good old April Fool’s Day.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 08 Apr 2011 10:58

The Great Escape - Anita Joshua in FrontLine
Excerpts

The world got to know of his departure when the powers that be chose to tell it, not a second earlier. And by the time the announcement came, Davis was already airborne and on his way to Afghanistan, or so the legend goes.

From what has been pieced together by the local media with bits of information leaked out selectively, the entire day's events were scripted and even rehearsed a day before. The day began with news breaking that a sessions court had indicted Davis for murder. Everyone – including the media and the jingoistic outfits referred to as the ‘ghairat brigade' – sat back anticipating a long-drawn-out court battle and the American spending many more days behind bars.

Hours later, shortly before sundown, Punjab's Law Minister Rana Sanaullah announced that Davis had been pardoned by his victims' relatives on payment of blood money as per the Sharia (Islamic law), acquitted by the lower court in view of the pardon, and had since flown out of the country in a special aircraft. For once, the never-at-a-loss-for-words media was also tongue-tied and not quite sure whom to go after and whom to tear apart.

Slowly but surely, it became clear that the entire turn of events had been orchestrated in a fashion that allowed both Pakistan and the United States to have their way. The indictment of Davis was Pakistan's way of rejecting the U.S. contention that he had diplomatic immunity under the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, 1961. And, by invoking the Qisas and Diyat provisions of the Sharia – which the Americans have always questioned – Pakistan gave the U.S. a way to get its man out according to the law of the land.

Well orchestrated

What happened in the hours between his indictment and release could really be straight out of the movies. First came the indictment. After this, the victims' lawyers were confined to the Kot Lakhpat Jail – where the court proceedings were held in view of the security risks involved in transporting Davis to court for hearing – and their cellphones confiscated. Some media reports claimed that the entire jail staff was also confined to the premises and their phones deactivated to ensure that word did not get out. Plausible on hindsight, given how well the secret was kept.

Next was the entry of a new lawyer acting on behalf of the victims' families and his submission to the court that they had pardoned Davis on payment of blood money – a total of $2.3 million. The judge was also informed that each of the 18 recipients of the blood money was present outside the court to testify that they had willingly pardoned Davis and were not opposed to his acquittal. The Additional Sessions Judge then asked each of them to come in individually and testify before him. Satisfied that none of them acted under duress, the judge acquitted Davis, who was then taken out of the jail premises in a convoy and into a waiting aircraft.

The 18 family members of the two victims also vanished; some say they have been kept in a safe house to protect them from mobs, while others insist that they have been taken to a Gulf country from where they are expected to relocate to the U.S. as part of an undertaking given by the Americans to facilitate visas and jobs for them back home.

The judge is also said to have proceeded on leave from the following morning, and it was left to the political leadership of the country to become the fall guys. This time the Pakistan People's Party was not alone in taking the flak. The Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz) – which leads the provincial government in Punjab, where the entire Davis chapter unfolded as the shooting took place in Lahore – was also in the dock as the release could not have happened without the knowledge of the local authorities.

Protests

The Army and the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), too, came in for some criticism because in the six weeks that the Davis saga kept the nation engaged it had become amply clear that there would be no forward movement without the consent of the real power centre in Pakistan. Religious right-wing parties across the country called for protests, and fearing a backlash, the U.S. Embassy decided to shut down its mission in Islamabad and Consulates-General in Lahore, Karachi and Peshawar on March 18.

But most analysts in Pakistan did not pay much attention to the protests and the inclusion of the Army and the ISI on the dart board, seeing it as part of the script. The protests drew lukewarm response, and as defence analyst Ayesha Siddiqa wrote in her column, “the General Headquarters will ensure that this [anger] does not really boil over”.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 08 Apr 2011 11:05

Gagan wrote:I'm wondering if MMS's cricket diplomacy has any relationship to Pakistan deploying 2 divisions in KSA, and the possibility of them deploying more there, and moving a few corps into Balochistan to the Pak-Iran border.

Obviously, Pakistan would be very insecure as to their position along the LOC because of any such moves, and massa and the GCC states would have wanted India to go the extra length to assuage pakistan that india will not make any unilateral moves to 'reclaim what in actuality belongs to india in the first place'.

I hope that India has asked for its pound of flesh, for keep the LOC quiet, while the pakistanis are doing Ummah duty elsewhere.

Gagan, What is that India can ask for which Gulf countries can provide that they have not already. I mean if you ignore the useless resolutions like in OIC etc., Can they promise they will shut off the tap of terror against India originating in Bakistan.
Can they promise to arrest anti-India elements like David Abraham and hand him over to India.
I wonder what is the pound of flesh that can be offered to India while Pakistan still maintains its H&D with terror organizations and not appear like giving into India despite saving Arabian @ss against Persians.
I have a scenario in mind which I will post in ME thread and see if that is feasible..

Airavat · Post by **Airavat** » 08 Apr 2011 11:43

The Great Game never stopped: Swapan Dasgupta:

British Prime Minister David Cameron craftily exploited the huge reservoir of “anti-imperialist” sentiment in the subcontinent. Speaking to students of the Islamabad Institute of Technology, no relation to the IITs across the border, he was asked what role the United Kingdom should play in resolving the Indo-Pakistan dispute over Kashmir. “I don’t want to insert Britain into some leading role”, he replied, “As with so many of the problems of the world, we are responsible for their creation in the first place”.

Predictably, Mr Cameron’s reply was greeted by generous applause by young Pakistanis who, like young Indians, have been brought up to believe that regional conflicts — whether in Palestine, Tibet or along the Durand Line — are a legacy of perfidious Albion. By blaming it all on long-forgotten ancestors, Mr Cameron delivered the crucial part of his message: the UK isn’t interested in getting its hands dirty in Kashmir.

First, the importance of Pakistan to the UK is, of course, in relation to Afghanistan. But equally, Pakistan is of considerable relevance to the national security of the British mainland. Nearly half the terror plots targeting Britain are thought to originate in a Pakistan where jihad is the biggest growth industry. It is, therefore, in Britain’s self-interest in both Afghanistan and at home to engage with Pakistan and secure the cooperation of its security establishment.

Secondly, it is increasingly apparent that neither the United States nor the UK has the stomach to secure a military defeat of the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Thirdly, for reasons that may be grounded in either fact or convenience, a section in Whitehall has concluded that the ISI has had a change of heart and is actively engaged in fighting the hardline Islamist terrorists.

Finally, a strategy of engagement with the ISI-approved roster of non-violent Islamism involves making demands on India. At an officially-sponsored seminar last week at King’s College, London, a participant baldly stated that “India has to be generous — otherwise it faces another summer of discontent in Kashmir”. The Great Game, it would seem, never stopped — not even after Mr Cameron recognised the role of yesterday’s imperialists in leaving an awful mess for posterity to clean up.

arun · Post by **arun** » 08 Apr 2011 11:47

Excerpt from an Op Ed by Sadanand Dhume in the Wall Street Journal titled “Beyond Cricket Diplomacy : How Indian culture counters extremism in Pakistan”.

Sadanand Dhume in the Op Ed states that he believes the Mohammadden fundamentalism and orthodoxy running amok in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan can be challenged by the soft power of Indian Culture presumably of the non-Mohammadden variety.

Check out the comment section tabbed to the Op Ed as well for at least one very pained reaction from an individual very likely linked to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan :

Beyond Cricket Diplomacy : How Indian culture counters extremism in Pakistan........................

Like other democracies, India does not expect visiting artists to become crude propagandists for its government or people. But at the same time, as a multireligious and increasingly wealthy country, India automatically gives Pakistanis a luxury they lack at home: a giant soapbox from which to challenge the weight of intolerance within their own society. As Pakistan's own cultural space shrinks under the Islamist onslaught, the importance of India as a lifeline for the country's beleaguered liberals will only grow. ........................

Wall Street Journal

partha · Post by **partha** » 08 Apr 2011 12:01

arun wrote:Excerpt from an Op Ed by Sadanand Dhume in the Wall Street Journal titled “Beyond Cricket Diplomacy : How Indian culture counters extremism in Pakistan”.

Sadanand Dhume in the Op Ed states that he believes the Mohammadden fundamentalism and orthodoxy running amok in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan can be challenged by the soft power of Indian Culture presumably of the non-Mohammadden variety.

Check out the comment section tabbed to the Op Ed as well for at least one very pained reaction from an individual very likely linked to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan :

Beyond Cricket Diplomacy : How Indian culture counters extremism in Pakistan........................

Like other democracies, India does not expect visiting artists to become crude propagandists for its government or people. But at the same time, as a multireligious and increasingly wealthy country, India automatically gives Pakistanis a luxury they lack at home: a giant soapbox from which to challenge the weight of intolerance within their own society. As Pakistan's own cultural space shrinks under the Islamist onslaught, the importance of India as a lifeline for the country's beleaguered liberals will only grow. ........................

Wall Street Journal

Very good analysis. Thanks for sharing.
"As Pakistan's own cultural space shrinks under the Islamist onslaught, the importance of India as a lifeline for the country's beleaguered liberals will only grow"

This has already started.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 08 Apr 2011 12:07

partha wrote:[
Very good analysis. Thanks for sharing.
"As Pakistan's own cultural space shrinks under the Islamist onslaught, the importance of India as a lifeline for the country's beleaguered liberals will only grow"

This has already started.

Bollywood and veena malik

partha · Post by **partha** » 08 Apr 2011 12:12

Acharya wrote:
partha wrote:[
Very good analysis. Thanks for sharing.
"As Pakistan's own cultural space shrinks under the Islamist onslaught, the importance of India as a lifeline for the country's beleaguered liberals will only grow"

This has already started.
Bollywood and veena malik

Yes. And IPL. Basically all good things in India. The question is how can we use this phenomenon to our advantage.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 08 Apr 2011 12:14

^^^ careful, next thing you know there will be quotas for pakistani kirketers in eye-pee-yell

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 08 Apr 2011 12:17

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/152 ... ridis.html

Shahid Afridi feels deeply hurt and has appealed to the Indian Cricket Board that Pakistan players shouldn't be treated as ''untouchables'' when it comes to including them in the cash-rich Indian Premier League.

partha · Post by **partha** » 08 Apr 2011 12:17

Lalmohan wrote:^^^ careful, next thing you know there will be quotas for pakistani kirketers in eye-pee-yell

and our premier education instis.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 08 Apr 2011 13:10

Malaysia nabs two Pakistanis with heroin worth $36M

KUALA LUMPUR: Police have arrested two Pakistani men suspected of smuggling heroin worth 110 million ringgit ($36 million) into Malaysia.

The suspects face a mandatory penalty of death by hanging if convicted of drug trafficking.

Friday’s police statement said the drugs were smuggled into Malaysia by sea from Pakistan and could have been intended for sale in neighboring countries. Authorities raided the shop because of a public tip.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 08 Apr 2011 13:13

Fierce clashes over control of Sandapal hilltop

LANDI KOTAL, April 7: Three more persons were killed as fierce clashes between banned militant organisation Lashkar-i-Islam and its rival Ansaarul Islam continued to take control of strategically important Sandapal hilltop in Khyber Agency on Thursday, sources said.
...
Meanwhile, 13 security personnel received injuries and two vehicles were destroyed when their convoys were targeted with roadside bombs.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 08 Apr 2011 13:21

Blast in Peshawar injures two

7 injured in Panjgur blast

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 08 Apr 2011 13:31

partha wrote:"As Pakistan's own cultural space shrinks under the Islamist onslaught, the importance of India as a lifeline for the country's beleaguered liberals will only grow"

I hope that India does not offer any such lifeline to the beleagured liberals of Pakistan because there are no liberals at all in Pakistan at least as far as their visceral, unremitting and enduring hatred goes vis-a-vis India. India should not devise any policy under the mistaken notion of engineering the Pakistani society or the policies of the GoP & PA favourably to India, by cultivating and encouraging these liberals. The mask of liberalism is an act of taqiyyah.

India's progress and acquisition of wealth and stature among the nation-states are based upon its own hard work, history, culture etc. in spite of assault after assault for 2000 years. This hard-earned (and still far to go) status is not for sharing with those who violently broke away from us and who have since then killed and maimed us in thousands through wars and terrorism. They have not let any opportunity go to stymie our progress or harass and humiliate us. Let them boil in their own poisonous stew which they willingly and gleefully prepared for us expecting us to drink.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 08 Apr 2011 13:31

shravan wrote:Blast in Peshawar injures two

7 injured in Panjgur blast

IED Mubarak Pakistan

jagga · Post by **jagga** » 08 Apr 2011 14:34

Don't treat us as 'untouchables', Afridi's appeal to BCCI
He is LIAR

On his criticism of Gautam Gambhir's statement about dedicating the WC win to the people who died in Mumbai terror attack, Afridi said that he did not say anything about Gambhir."I never heard Gautam saying anything like that, so how could I react over that. It is ridiculous," he said.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 08 Apr 2011 15:23

Anujan wrote:http://www.deccanherald.com/content/152 ... ridis.html
Shahid Afridi feels deeply hurt and has appealed to the Indian Cricket Board that Pakistan players shouldn't be treated as ''untouchables'' when it comes to including them in the cash-rich Indian Premier League.

Ab aya saala line pe. It was all about inclusion in IPL all along.
He must have asked SP himself or some top honcho in the BCCI to lobby for him for inclusion in IPL, and must have been told that in India 26/11 still bears heavily on the Indian psyche. Chances are difficult that any pakistani will play in IPL now. But SP must have said "we'll see".

So while bugger is waiting for the results of "we'll see", he tries to cosy upto Indians by saying, "why do we hate Indians so much hain ji? We watch all their TV serials and their movies". He also says that he is tired from too much cricket and that "young generation should be given the chance to go to west indies"

Yeah right. The bhooka nanga pakistani cricketers will give up on a cricket tour, because of 'too much cricket'. I tell you there is 'too much BS', and it stinks.

The ISI wallahs immediately say "Teri aisi ki taisi" "Abey saale tujhe pakistan mein rehna hai ki nahi" "Beta sudhar jaa, aur jaisa hum kehten hain waise hi bol"

Lo and Behold shahid bhai - cousin brother of a terrorist killed in the kashmir valley retracts his statement the next day. Being the country bumpkin that he is he does his version of "Hinduon ke Zeheniyat he aisi hai" by saying things like "muslims and Pakistanis have bigger hearts" - yeah right, that is why muslims and pakistanis throw grenades on fellow muslims and pakistanis inside mosques.

The Indian camp uses that opportunity, the media is given the green light to go after Shahid Bhai. Undie TV interviews him and he being-the-country-bumpkin-that-he-is promptly steps in the goo once again. He sobs "GG shouldn't have said 26/11"

Bugger knows that it IS about pakistan's involvement in 26/11, but what can he say? He can only shout out in impotent rage that the hindoos did this to him. His earning capacity is being seriously dented here. But what can the poor sod do hain ji? He and his countrymen know that the ISI did 26/11, and now the Indians won't let them play in IPL. What's worse is that the netas in India dangle the IPL fruit and make them jump the hoops a few times and then take that fruit far away.

A truly ongoing and sad story.

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 08 Apr 2011 15:25

Don't treat us as 'untouchables', Afridi's appeal to BCCI

What to do we are a racist country and our hearts are small onlee

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 08 Apr 2011 15:35

http://soodvikram.blogspot.com/2011/04/ ... l?spref=tw

This reaction was possibly to Gautam Gambhir’s silly comment that he dedicated the Indian victory to Mumbai 26/11.

AFAIK GG said nothing of that sort. He dedicated the victory to victims of 26/11....
He did not indulge in any chest beating that we beat the pakis and this was revenge or whatever...
how does it make the comment silly?

Seriously, this coming from an ex-intelligence officer makes me want to throw up

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 08 Apr 2011 15:40

And this from Arnab (greatbong.net) who seems to share the same view as many BRFites....

http://greatbong.net/2011/04/05/the-big-hearts/

Finally a personal message. To Mr. Gambhir. You sir have been one of my favorite players throughout the years—dependable, smart, not amazingly talented like Yuvi but always keenly aware of your limitations and playing by them. By remembering 26/11, a personal tragedy to many of us, you have only risen in our esteem.

People die when they stop breathing. Peoples die when they stop remembering.

Thank you. And not just for the Cup.

Can we at BR pool in some funds and send a bouquet of flowers to GG? So, far he has only been receiving brick bats from our establishment and WKK's for kicking "Aman ki Asha" in the butt. He needs to know how much Indians all over the world really appreciate him for doing what he did...

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 08 Apr 2011 15:50

anishns wrote:
Can we at BR pool in some funds and send a bouquet of flowers to GG? So, far he has only been receiving brick bats from our establishment and WKK's for kicking "Aman ki Asha" in the butt. He needs to know how much Indians all over the world really appreciate him for doing what he did...

We should do this.

Klaus · Post by **Klaus** » 08 Apr 2011 16:10

partha wrote:
Lalmohan wrote:^^^ careful, next thing you know there will be quotas for pakistani kirketers in eye-pee-yell
and our premier education instis.

And to receive healthcare and treatment of the highest standards, starting from cataract to unani/ayurveda treatments/consultations.

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 08 Apr 2011 16:18

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Gautam-Ga ... 3936578076

For now, this is the only way to appreciate the man!

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 08 Apr 2011 16:47

Anujan wrote:http://www.deccanherald.com/content/152 ... ridis.html
Shahid Afridi feels deeply hurt and has appealed to the Indian Cricket Board that Pakistan players shouldn't be treated as ''untouchables'' when it comes to including them in the cash-rich Indian Premier League.

Arrey Afridi mangte, we are small hearted people as you claimed and we want to remember that Pakis and Indians can't exist together again as you claimed...

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 08 Apr 2011 16:53

Chandragupta wrote:
anishns wrote:
Can we at BR pool in some funds and send a bouquet of flowers to GG? So, far he has only been receiving brick bats from our establishment and WKK's for kicking "Aman ki Asha" in the butt. He needs to know how much Indians all over the world really appreciate him for doing what he did...
We should do this.

I am in, seriously. Or is he on facebook? we can flood that.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 08 Apr 2011 17:22

anishns wrote:
Don't treat us as 'untouchables', Afridi's appeal to BCCI
What to do we are a racist country and our hearts are small onlee

Aha! The worm turns. This turnaround was expected. I personally would have been displeased (and disappointed) with the level of Mr. Afridi's perfidy if this hadn't come about within a week of contracting "the-double-foot-in-the-mouth-disease". It was ALL about the IPL and a chance for the pakis to play in it. Well, Afridi and his team mates should know by now that this gravy train has left the station (and the platform has been burnt). No IPL owner would want to lose advertising revenues and fan-following if he/she were to invite a paki player for the forseeable future.

However, there is always a silver lining. There still may be a few openings for ball boys, water carriers, bat shiners, kit holders, door openers, security guards and other similar menial jobs which would suit the paki "untouchables". Who says Indians do not have a large heart? Minimum wage, anyone?

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 08 Apr 2011 17:43

Gagan wrote:I'm wondering if MMS's cricket diplomacy has any relationship to Pakistan deploying 2 divisions in KSA, and the possibility of them deploying more there, and moving a few corps into Balochistan to the Pak-Iran border.

Obviously, Pakistan would be very insecure as to their position along the LOC because of any such moves, and massa and the GCC states would have wanted India to go the extra length to assuage pakistan that india will not make any unilateral moves to 'reclaim what in actuality belongs to india in the first place'.

I hope that India has asked for its pound of flesh, for keep the LOC quiet, while the pakistanis are doing Ummah duty elsewhere.

Well if recent reports are to be believed, the gap is being filled by their tallest and bravest neighbor from north. The day won't be far when our soldiers actually face the PLA all along the western LOC.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 08 Apr 2011 17:50

anup misra ji, you forgot the most important job category with high match to paqui qualifications - rocket polishers

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 08 Apr 2011 19:13

Lalmohan wrote:anup misra ji, you forgot the most important job category with high match to paqui qualifications - rocket polishers

And painters!!

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 08 Apr 2011 19:23

Pakistan cricketers cried after the semi final
Who says momin-e-mards don't cry? Next time the pakis bring up that Sreesanth/Bhajji episode, Indians should remind them of this.

"Most of the players wept in the dressing room after the match. No one could be more disappointed than us at that moment," said Pakistan speedster Wahab Riaz

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 08 Apr 2011 19:38

Misraji, they weren't crying because they lost the semis. They always knew they had no chance....

What they were really sad about was the fact that they would now have to go back to that shit hole land of the pure....

They tried to prolong it as much as they could, but they ran into a wall which gave them a quick exit right next to the border with not enough time to even do any shopping.

anupmisra wrote:Pakistan cricketers cried after the semi final
Who says momin-e-mards don't cry? Next time the pakis bring up that Sreesanth/Bhajji episode, Indians should remind them of this.

"Most of the players wept in the dressing room after the match. No one could be more disappointed than us at that moment," said Pakistan speedster Wahab Riaz

kittoo · Post by **kittoo** » 08 Apr 2011 20:12

abhijitm wrote: I am in, seriously. Or is he on facebook? we can flood that.

I'm in too. BTW, his Twitter-

http://twitter.com/#!/gambhirgauti

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 08 Apr 2011 20:22

Thirty militants killed in Mohmand operation‎

At least 80 militants have been killed in the last two days in Mohmand agency.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 08 Apr 2011 20:31

anupmisra wrote:
Lalmohan wrote:anup misra ji, you forgot the most important job category with high match to paqui qualifications - rocket polishers
And painters!!

Wont that suffocate that rocket?

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 08 Apr 2011 20:36

Now Pakis are claiming their hearts are more 10 times more enlarged than the Indians'? Must be the effect of too much Karahi Gosht and Nihari

partha · Post by **partha** » 08 Apr 2011 21:11

Gagan wrote:Ab aya saala line pe. It was all about inclusion in IPL all along.
He must have asked SP himself or some top honcho in the BCCI to lobby for him for inclusion in IPL, and must have been told that in India 26/11 still bears heavily on the Indian psyche. Chances are difficult that any pakistani will play in IPL now. But SP must have said "we'll see".

So while bugger is waiting for the results of "we'll see", he tries to cosy upto Indians by saying, "why do we hate Indians so much hain ji? We watch all their TV serials and their movies". He also says that he is tired from too much cricket and that "young generation should be given the chance to go to west indies"

Yeah right. The bhooka nanga pakistani cricketers will give up on a cricket tour, because of 'too much cricket'. I tell you there is 'too much BS', and it stinks.

The ISI wallahs immediately say "Teri aisi ki taisi" "Abey saale tujhe pakistan mein rehna hai ki nahi" "Beta sudhar jaa, aur jaisa hum kehten hain waise hi bol"

Lo and Behold shahid bhai - cousin brother of a terrorist killed in the kashmir valley retracts his statement the next day. Being the country bumpkin that he is he does his version of "Hinduon ke Zeheniyat he aisi hai" by saying things like "muslims and Pakistanis have bigger hearts" - yeah right, that is why muslims and pakistanis throw grenades on fellow muslims and pakistanis inside mosques.

The Indian camp uses that opportunity, the media is given the green light to go after Shahid Bhai. Undie TV interviews him and he being-the-country-bumpkin-that-he-is promptly steps in the goo once again. He sobs "GG shouldn't have said 26/11"

Bugger knows that it IS about pakistan's involvement in 26/11, but what can he say? He can only shout out in impotent rage that the hindoos did this to him. His earning capacity is being seriously dented here. But what can the poor sod do hain ji? He and his countrymen know that the ISI did 26/11, and now the Indians won't let them play in IPL. What's worse is that the netas in India dangle the IPL fruit and make them jump the hoops a few times and then take that fruit far away.

A truly ongoing and sad story.

A disgusting aspect of this whole drama was how our media was willing to give Afridi a second chance to clarify his statement. Now imagine if somebody in India had even remotely and indirectly suggested that Muslims are small hearted or some such, the media would have roasted him or her. All the so called Paki "liberals" were pleading like anything to "ignore lala's statement" and that he should not be judged based on one statement! And this from people who get offended when Indians talk about 26/11.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 08 Apr 2011 21:19

SSridhar wrote:
partha wrote:"As Pakistan's own cultural space shrinks under the Islamist onslaught, the importance of India as a lifeline for the country's beleaguered liberals will only grow"
I hope that India does not offer any such lifeline to the beleagured liberals of Pakistan because there are no liberals at all in Pakistan at least as far as their visceral, unremitting and enduring hatred goes vis-a-vis India. India should not devise any policy under the mistaken notion of engineering the Pakistani society or the policies of the GoP & PA favourably to India, by cultivating and encouraging these liberals. The mask of liberalism is an act of taqiyyah.

India's progress and acquisition of wealth and stature among the nation-states are based upon its own hard work, history, culture etc. in spite of assault after assault for 2000 years. This hard-earned (and still far to go) status is not for sharing with those who violently broke away from us and who have since then killed and maimed us in thousands through wars and terrorism. They have not let any opportunity go to stymie our progress or harass and humiliate us. Let them boil in their own poisonous stew which they willingly and gleefully prepared for us expecting us to drink.

I think, the best torture is to put the halwa just beyond reach, but in full view. If we take in a hand full of artists or academicians from Pakistan, while keeping the others on an endless waiting queue, perhaps accepting 3-4 applications every year with much fanfare, I think we could have a lot of RAPEs and others falling over each other trying to get into India. Let them then sing songs of how great India is, and how they love India etc. That is all free publicity!

Let the Veena Maliks stand in line for Bharat Bhushans!

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 08 Apr 2011 21:26

Yes, I can tell you here that no indian who is a prominent personality, in this day and age, could get away after giving out a statement like Afridi did.

The media, the people will roast him alive.

Yet just because this guy is a Pakistani, and our media is gracious towards foreigners, even more so towards pakistanis, he gets a second chance.

That is why the turd Sohail Tanveer was not even touched by our media, because he is such a bigoted idiot, and his statement was so odious and he was caught so red handed, that there was no possibility of putting any spin on what he said, of minimizing his crime.

Everyone must have whispered beneath their breaths "bloody pakistani" "these idiots will never improve".

sum · Post by **sum** » 08 Apr 2011 21:30

Who says momin-e-mards don't cry? Next time the pakis bring up that Sreesanth/Bhajji episode, Indians should remind them of this.

Maybe the momins cried because they didn't get to bow to Allah for another day on Indian soil ( which was the only worthwhile thing done in Mohali as per the great Paki herrow, Saeed Ajmal)