AugustaWestland Bribery Cover-Up, Italian Marines Let Go

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 26 Mar 2013 23:19

Thanks Rudra ji the exact thoughts occured to me but you were first more importantly eloquent in your case presentation.

Also may I add the case of Bhamas (Dutch ) controlled which had similar situation of US citizen murdered and a Dutch suspect who finally was brought to justice in Argentina (IIRC)

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 27 Mar 2013 00:14

Pentaiah ji, I remember the case you mean... US student Natalie Holloway was killed in Dutch Aruba by a Dutch guy, Joran Vandersloot, who got away with it. Ultimately Vandersloot was never apprehended for Holloway's murder, but for the killing of another victim in Peru 5 years later. He fled to Chile but they arrested and extradited him back to Peru immediately. Now that's a good neighbour.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 27 Mar 2013 00:33

Knox was not acquitted. Italian law automatically provides both the prosecution and defense with an appeal in a murder conviction. The defense appealed her conviction on the basis of procedural irregularities, and thus the conviction was set aside, and she was essentially out on $0 bail. The prosecution's own subsequent appeal remained in progress all this while, and the judgement just made on that appeal was that the case needs to be retried entirely. There's no double jeopardy here, since she was not acquitted in the first place. She will be tried in absentia if she doesn't show up in court, and an extradition order will be made if subsequently convicted. Of course, the US may laugh and give the Italians the middle finger.

For Italy, this isn't the first time they've dealt with potential US highhandedness - the Aviano cable car disaster, where the US refused to hand over USMC servicemen for trial in Italy but instead found them not guilty in a military trial, was a prior case.

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 27 Mar 2013 01:24

The US has a stated policy of its armed force member not subject to local laws,
Aviano disaster and even the CIA /Diplomatic person who killed TSP asasins while chasing a his car is also relavant I think.

I do not know if Italians also claim such exception of their armed forces killing in foreign countries.

so no comparison with America

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 27 Mar 2013 02:30

Italians are saying there are written commitments and Khurshi* is saying none were given.

Ramana ji, you must obviously realize that the arguments and discussions went absolutely like i posted in the first page this thread. It is so obvious. There was no red herring in my post at all.

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 27 Mar 2013 17:22

Rudradev wrote:JEM,

If I had one dram of trust in the intent (let alone competence) of this GOI to "work together" and accomplish any goal that's actually in the national interest, I might agree with your take on it.

So it's possible that the Vatican's God Himself somehow intervened to bestow Antonia Maino with this boon of circumstance. I find that much more believable than the thesis that Italy's u-turn was inspired by whatever our ignoble PM may have muttered under his breath.

Maybe true what you said. The above also might ALSO have been a factor. Apart from Italian olive oil and pizza companies telling the govt. to send the marines back so that their next 30 years are not affected.

All the same, they're " f*&*king so and so's" !

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 27 Mar 2013 18:44

To reiterate, this was the point:

>>I'm pretty sure, the Vatican brought their weight to bear on the Italian Govt. to send back the Marines, as their cash cow and soul harvesting credit line in India would have come to an end.

if both were kept in Italy, who would do the bolded part above in India? UPA? Even an NDA under Narendra Modi as PM? Not a hope.

To elaborate, there was and is zero chance that the current government or any other one in the current environment would do the above if the Marines were not returned. Is anyone seriously saying this - i.e. "their cash cow and soul harvesting credit line in India would have to come to an end" - would have been a result of the Marines being kept in Italy? On what grounds? It's first class wishful thinking people. If there was an even remote chance of that, I'd rather they have kept the Marines back. Ending this proselytisation crap is far more valuable than two bloody murderous posers.

And of course bringing back the Marines is a success for the current GoI. It was inept and stupid to let them go in the first place, but now it's placed itself as capable of playing hardball. To top it, the Italian FM resigned over the issue. India won this one, is how it looks. I'm not complaining. Take whatever small blessings we can get, they are sparse enough with the current ruling dispensation.

I have no sympathy whatsoever for the simpering sycophants who form much of the government of the day (Khurshid could not resist brown-nosing in one of his initial statements after the return of the Marines), but they know how to hang on, however tenuously it might be.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 27 Mar 2013 19:10

JE Menon wrote:
RajeshA wrote:their cash cow and soul harvesting credit line in India would have to come to an end
- would have been a result of the Marines being kept in Italy? On what grounds?

If the Marines were not brought back, it would have generated much animus towards the Italians in India, or at least the Hindu nationalists could have theoretically created an anti-Italian anger wave in India. This would have rubbed off surely on the Family. In fact it could have othered the Family and made the Family "untouchable" in Indian politics. The Dynasty would have had to step aside.

The Family is the one which has kept a coterie of Christians in power who have quietly allowed various NGOs and the Church to advance a specific religious agenda - that is the soul-harvesting credit line.

Again it is my personal opinion that the Vatican gets a cut from all the corruption in India, at least a cut from Sonia's share. It is normal that well-to-do Catholics would give charity to the Church. Why should one doubt that a particularly well-off Catholic like Sonia ji would not do the same? Also her charity would be suitably large, considering the size of corruption going on! Furthermore, it is common to plead forgiveness from the Church for various sins at the Confessional! Well-to-do Catholics are known to use it often, and to make appropriate contributions to the Church! That is the cash cow!

So either Sonia Gandhi herself had the connections to the Italian Govt. to move them to return the Italian Marines, or she got it done through the Vatican, or perhaps some third power!

I can't really think of a third power. Nor can I think that her needs would outweigh those of the current Italian Govt in the eyes of the latter. After all it was a very unpopular decision for the Italians. Their foreign minister had to resign even.

So the question is what lever of influence was used? I believe it was the Vatican!

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 27 Mar 2013 19:23

^^^

Bollocks. Lets wait for something like a few years, and see how this plays out. Too foggy now...and too many conspiracy theories.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 27 Mar 2013 19:27

mahadevbhu ji,

perhaps then you have some theories on why the Italian Marines were returned!

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 27 Mar 2013 19:32

>>If the Marines were not brought back, it would have generated much animus towards the Italians in India, or at least the Hindu nationalists could have theoretically created an anti-Italian anger wave in India. This would have rubbed off surely on the Family. In fact it could have othered the Family and made the Family "untouchable" in Indian politics. The Dynasty would have had to step aside.

Boss, that's a touching optimism. That's my point. Neither the credit line or the cash cow would have been shut down by the Marines being held back, is, of course, my opinion. It would have spoiled the name of Italy, to some extent, for some time. That would rub off a little on Gandhi family, and their acolytes would work double time on the media to scrub that clean - after all they are Indians; I mean, if they really were Italians why didn't Rome sacrifice two Marines to secure their long-term influence; and various other vectors along that theme. Then public opinion would have forgotten about it. My opinion.

The Marines were returned because the Italians did not realise the extent of their fu(k-up until the normally somnolent premier mumbled something about unacceptability (which was tantatmount to a declaration of war coming from him), and SoniaG cut loose on the other side. Both were concerned, rightly so, about elections and survival. With those strong statements, they would either win (in this case they did) or would have covered their asses as appropriately as possible... Sometimes this shit is pretty straightforward.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 27 Mar 2013 19:43

It is highly unlikely that some Vatican prelate went into the Palazzo Chiggi Chiggi and said, "dudes, you need to return those two idiots because otherwise we'll lose funding and influence". Palazzo Chiggi would have replied "WTF? we may lose the elections if we return them, you dickheads". Prelate: "Boys, calm the fu(k down... keep them for a few days, send them back after the elections and before the time for their arrest - and then scapegoat the foreign minister. He'll get paid off some other way, someone gets the blame for incompetence, these two fools will get to spend some more time posing at the Embassy in Delhi in their raybans, diesels and form fitting shirts - and when they get back, a few prelates would like to interview them personally". Palazzo Chiggi Chiggi: "Hmm, why the hell not... I don't like that prat Terzi anyway, jackass probably thinks he'll be prime minister some day, well, not on my watch..." But, "what about the Navy...a couple of admirals have become quite adamant about this"... Prelate: "Adamant? Heh heh, have you heard the story about the glass bottomed warships of our navy. Well, let me tell you... "

ShauryaT · Post by **ShauryaT** » 27 Mar 2013 20:05

JE Menon wrote:Sometimes this shit is pretty straightforward.

While the case still goes on and the final jury is still out, MMS needs to be outright congratulated for this one single lone act of being able to keep his word to parliament. Part of the reason, I am ecstatic is due to the low, low expectations from this government. But, remain disappointed with many posters, who see CT in very corner, when incompetence and inefficacy are good enough reasons to oust those in power.

I wish there was a way to say, folks please be "rational" (I hate that word), do not be emotional (again an oxymoronic concept) and biased (everyone is) and do not view everything as "politics" (when everything can be political). But between these words are hidden a sense of self awareness of your own emotions, biases, political preferences - which guide your "rationality". I disagree with MMS/INC a 1000 times but do not believe that they are any less Indians or do not have India's best interests at heart - the way they see it. I believe MMS is a good person and so are a majority of INC but India deserves better.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Mar 2013 20:35

I think everyone has said their piece on the Italian marines issue.

So Enough Lets Move On (ELMO).

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 27 Mar 2013 20:50

JE Menon wrote:It would have spoiled the name of Italy, to some extent, for some time. That would rub off a little on Gandhi family, and their acolytes would work double time on the media to scrub that clean - after all they are Indians; I mean, if they really were Italians why didn't Rome sacrifice two Marines to secure their long-term influence; and various other vectors along that theme. Then public opinion would have forgotten about it. My opinion.

Till now the Italians received only some unhappy looks from us because of their part in the whole corruption in India - Snam Progetti, Quattrochi, etc. but the Indians saw this all as part of the bigger malaise and not something that only the Italians did to us.

However this issue was different. Here we were talking about MURDER of Indians. Here we were talking about paying back Indian trust with treachery. So it could have become an emotive issue if the Marines were not returned and the opposition had been willing to take it up. Unlike the corruption cases, this case would have been Italy specific, so the hatred generated too would have been Italy-specific. That would have indeed rubbed off on the Family. Now if this had turned into besieging of the Italian embassy and consulates, there is no way the INC would have been able to hush it down and to turn people's attention to something else, because then it would have become an international media event.

JE Menon wrote:The Marines were returned because the Italians did not realise the extent of their fu(k-up until the normally somnolent premier mumbled something about unacceptability (which was tantatmount to a declaration of war coming from him), and SoniaG cut loose on the other side. Both were concerned, rightly so, about elections and survival. With those strong statements, they would either win (in this case they did) or would have covered their asses as appropriately as possible... Sometimes this shit is pretty straightforward.

Well saar, that too is optimism that Italians buckled under the threat from our powerful leader Shri Manmohan Singh!

JE Menon wrote:I don't like that prat Terzi anyway, jackass probably thinks he'll be prime minister some day, well, not on my watch..."

That too is possible! However for that one would have to dig a bit into Italian inner politics. However the Government of Mario Monti is already on its way out, as soon as the new government is formed. So Terzi would not have remained a minister anyway. He just left his office a month before he would have left anyway! So for an outgoing government, I don't think any political competition with Terzi would have been the reason.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 27 Mar 2013 20:51

ramana wrote:I think everyone has said their piece on the Italian marines issue.

So Enough Lets Move On (ELMO).

The process has however not started as yet!

habal · Post by **habal** » 27 Mar 2013 21:03

Italy is broke. Italy needs support from international banking institutions. The main link and influence peddler in such cases, between those parties, is a religious institution based in principality of rome.

this apart from other influences that may be made to bear by the same group.

more important than evangelisation & credit line is the power to influence such activities without any adverse consequences. It is the power of such influence that is being leveraged. The power to influence decision making in India is what is being bargained, loss of face for a ruling dynasty will also lead to loss of the power to influence leverage by Italian entities. One needs to thoroughly understand the mechanism of power instead of merely debating for the sake of debate.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 27 Mar 2013 22:03

Italian Supreme Court ruling on Amanda Knox retrial expected within hours

Check this out

Rome (CNN) -- Italian Supreme Court judges have heard the arguments, now they must decide whether to order American Amanda Knox to stand trial for a second time in the death of her former roommate.The judges concluded a hearing into the question early Monday afternoon, and were expected to announce their decision soon.Knox spent four years in jail before an appellate court overturned her murder conviction in the 2007 death of Meredith Kercher. She returned to the United States in 2011. Prosecutors say that despite the appellate decision, they still believe Knox and her former boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito, are responsible for the death."We are still convinced that they are the co-authors of Meredith's homicide," Italian news agency ANSA quoted Perugia, Italy, prosecutor Giovanni Galati as saying.Knox, who is not in Italy for the hearing, is confident in the Italian legal system and hopes one day to return to Italy as a free woman, her lawyer, Luciano Ghirga, said Monday.If the acquittal is overturned, the case will go back to an appellate court and Knox might have to return to Italy. If she refuses, the Italian government could appeal to the U.S. government for her extradition

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shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 28 Mar 2013 00:33

They threatened to cancel all contracts with Italy in addition to diplo pressure
That finally got them to send the marines back.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 28 Mar 2013 00:50

RajeshA wrote:
JE Menon wrote:[

Again it is my personal opinion that the Vatican gets a cut from all the corruption in India, at least a cut from Sonia's share. It is normal that well-to-do Catholics would give charity to the Church. Why should one doubt that a particularly well-off Catholic like Sonia ji would not do the same? Also her charity would be suitably large, considering the size of corruption going on! Furthermore, it is common to plead forgiveness from the Church for various sins at the Confessional! Well-to-do Catholics are known to use it often, and to make appropriate contributions to the Church! That is the cash cow!

It is open secret that Vatican Bank is a major conduit for laundering drug money. Donation is the perfect cover for Catholic church to extending the banking services to drug dealers, mafia and other crooks. Now , what are the chances that Vatican is used by Indian politicians to hide and lander their black money ? With all the nefarious activities of Missionaries , no politician worth the secular sickness do anything about this threat to Indian security. The missionaries and their Padres like Dalal in NAC are very abrupt and rash about insulting Indians and their civilization's ethos without the fear of retaliation. They must know something which Indians dont.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Mar 2013 01:03

shyamd wrote:They threatened to cancel all contracts with Italy in addition to diplo pressure
That finally got them to send the marines back.

All looked pre arranged to me.......

The Kerala CM shouting like MMS in parliament that the marines would be back seemed staged to me.

A shady deal has been cut for sure. Silence on the augusta shindig??

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 28 Mar 2013 01:16

They would have prepared for the uproar and the marines wouldn't have come back if that was the case.

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 02 Apr 2013 21:44

As expected:
NIA not to seek death for Italian marines

The NIA, which has been asked to probe the killing of two Kerala fishermen allegedly by Italian marines, will not press for death sentence against the two accused, honouring an assurance given to Italy by India.

What about the assurance of security that ordinary citizens of India live and take for granted? that their lives will be protected by their government? again Italian life out weighs the lives of poor Indian fishermen, without them, who knows how hard their families are getting by?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Apr 2013 21:47

Oh NIA is for protecting the terrorists. They have very good track record. So far no one NIA case has been prosecuted successfully ot even unsuccessfully. So they are doing the INC's job for them.
Sanjay Dutt should have asked for NIA to take over his case of arms smuggling and he would not have been sentenced!!!

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 02 Apr 2013 21:47

venug wrote:The NIA, which has been asked to probe the killing of two Kerala fishermen allegedly by Italian marines, will not press for death sentence against the two accused, honouring an assurance given to Italy by India.

Why did the Indian Govt. give any assurances to the Italians? How did they come into a situation where they were "forced" to give assurances!

If the process is subjudice, how can the GoI give any assurances at all?

Whoever gave the assurance to the Italians must himself be given the "death sentence" for his treachery!

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 03 Apr 2013 01:37

until law 589/94 of October 13, 1994 abolished it (death penalty) completely from there as well, and substituted it with the maximum penalty of the civil penal code (imprisonment for life sentence). In 2007 a constitutional amendement was adopted. Article 27 of Italian Constitution was changed to fully ban the death penalty.

This is why The Italians must have pre conditions to return the the heroic Marines to India

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 03 Apr 2013 03:45

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-21999318
Italian marines row: India lifts travel ban on Rome envoy

ndia's Supreme Court has withdrawn its earlier order barring the Italian ambassador from leaving India after a row over two Italian marines accused of killing two Indian fishermen.Ambassador Daniele Mancini was barred from leaving India last month after Rome said the marines would not return.The marines returned after a bitter diplomatic row between India and Italy.The court had allowed Massimiliano Latorre and Salvatore Girone to travel home to vote in the February election.
The marines were ordered to return in four weeks to stand trial in India.Ambassador Mancini had given his personal assurance that they would return within four weeks.The marines are accused of shooting the fishermen off the Kerala coast in February 2012. They had been guarding an Italian oil tanker and said they mistook the fishermen for pirates.On Tuesday, the Supreme Court asked the government to set up of a special court to try the marines.The court said it would hear the matter again on 16 April.The marines returned to India on 22 March in an Italian military plane, accompanied by Deputy Foreign Minister Staffan de Mistura.The Italian government said it had received assurances about the men's treatment and their human rights.Their return eased diplomatic tensions between Delhi and Rome.Italy has always insisted that as the shooting had taken place in international waters, the men should be tried in Italy.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 03 Apr 2013 06:05

The Rome-Delhi shuttle service in operation! The Italian ambassador will now get his just reward of the "Bunga,Bunga" medal.We will next see the shuttle transport the two marines to Rome to seek blessings from the new incumbent of the throne of St.Peter and kiss his ring! He will forgive them and that will be the end of the matter.The RC families of the victims have already been taken care of.A visit to the Vatican and perhaps even a papal audience will "seal the deal"!

Yayavar · Post by **Yayavar** » 03 Apr 2013 06:09

It seems far-fetched that the govt will let the Italians go again given the ruckus the last time. Unless of course the court somehow decides they are not guilty.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 03 Apr 2013 06:18

pentaiah wrote:
until law 589/94 of October 13, 1994 abolished it (death penalty) completely from there as well, and substituted it with the maximum penalty of the civil penal code (imprisonment for life sentence). In 2007 a constitutional amendement was adopted. Article 27 of Italian Constitution was changed to fully ban the death penalty.
This is why The Italians must have pre conditions to return the the heroic Marines to India

pentaiah ji,

the Italians were able to set these pre-conditions only because the Indians let them go to Italy. Otherwise the Italians were not in any position to set down conditions. So those Indians who brought us in a situation where we were forced to give guarantees should answer for our "weakened position".

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 04 Apr 2013 01:34

While strictly speaking this item is tangential,but it endorses "Bungs Bunga" boy,Silvio Berlo and his comments about corruption in defence deals as being the norm and why there is so much surprise about the AW affair.Corruption in Italy resembles India as if a mirror reflection.Perhaps why our Roman empress is so much at home here,pulling the strings of the most venal and corrupt Indian govt. in centuries! Did anyone watch the utterly pathetic feeble speech by the mouse at the CII meet? Not even an alley cat will have any cinfidence that his garbage bin will contain some "meat' for consumption.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ap ... ized-mafia

Assets worth €1.3bn seized from Italian businessman 'with mafia links'
Vito Nicastri, known as the 'king of wind' for his renewable energy interests, loses companies, property, cars and boats

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 04 Apr 2013 09:53

The Mayor of Rome last night criticised the return of the Marines, switched off the lights of the Colosseum and demanded the Rome government get them back. Also projected their uniformed busts and Italian flag on the Colosseum facade after the lights were switched off... It's becoming a local political issue in Italy, looks like.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 04 Apr 2013 10:01

JE Menon wrote:The Mayor of Rome last night criticised the return of the Marines, switched off the lights of the Colosseum and demanded the Rome government get them back. Also projected their uniformed busts and Italian flag on the Colosseum facade after the lights were switched off... It's becoming a local political issue in Italy, looks like.

The interesting part is that after the process India would be handing back the Italian Marines to have their sentence carried out in Italy itself - a country which shows such adulation of murderers would be given the responsibility of punishment.

It is going to be a mockery of justice.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 04 Apr 2013 10:05

>>The interesting part is that after the process India would be handing back the Italian Marines to have their sentence carried out in Italy itself

Is this certain, ie declared by our govt?

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 04 Apr 2013 10:23

JE Menon wrote:>>The interesting part is that after the process India would be handing back the Italian Marines to have their sentence carried out in Italy itself

Is this certain, ie declared by our govt?

It has been agreed by both in Nov 12 Govts. that convicted criminals in both countries will serve their sentences in their home country.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 04 Apr 2013 13:16

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 371975.cms

NEW DELHI: The government on Wednesday seemed to be struggling over how to deal with the Italian marines accused of killing two Kerala fishermen, sparking uncertainty over which agency may be asked to probe the incident afresh.

Doubts about the choice of agency arose when the foreign ministry on Wednesday stressed - in contrast to the indications earlier from the government that the N I A has been asked to probe the case - that no notification assigning the probe toN I A had been issued yet.

"As of now, we have not received any formal notification about N I A having taken over the case,'' foreign ministry spokesman Syed Akbaruddin said.

The statement immediately sparked a sense of wonder because the indication from the home ministry so far had been that the decision to assign the probe to N I A was a done deal. In fact, even on Wednesday, N I A sources said the notification was a mere formality, and that they had been asked to get on with the probe.

N I A sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said they had begun drafting the FIR, adding that the exercise would be completed by Thursday after they had received a missing document from Kerala Police.

Other sections in the government, however, insisted that the issue was far from settled, and the possibility of C B I being asked to take up the probe remains open.

The last-minute uncertainty over which agency should re-investigate the case, seems to be stemming from Italy's insistence that its marines cannot be charged with an offence which carries death sentence. There were strong indications on Tuesday evening that the NIA was considering to book the Italian duo under SUA or Suppression of Unlawful Acts against Safety of Maritime Navigation and Fixed Platforms on Continental Shelf Act, 2002: a law which entails death penalty. It is learnt that the attorney general's opinion has been sought on whether the NIA, in case it is handed over the new probe, can be asked to not invoke SUA and book them under normal IPC provisions.

N I A deals only with designated scheduled crimes under normal circumstances and the government is trying to ascertain if the agency can use IPC 4(2) which says the penal code can be applied for any offence committed by "any person on any ship or aircraft registered in India'' irrespective of the location. Clarity on this is essential as Italy maintains that it sent the two marines back only after being assured by India that they would not be tried under any law punishable with death. This was asserted by Italy's deputy foreign minister Staffan de Mistura on March 22 after his government sent back the marines Salvatore Gironi and Massimiliano Latorre

Reliability of the agency, opinion of A G and Italians poking their nose into chargesheet. Fit case for perjury for Italianas
A G would bail out the Govt. It boils down to the simple question of which is more reliable C B I or N I A post 2014 .

Moreover Ship was not registered in India so dont know how 4(2) IPC would be applied.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 04 Apr 2013 13:27

Aditya,

Any link on that? I can't seem to find any...

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 04 Apr 2013 13:49

JE Menon wrote:Aditya,

Any link on that? I can't seem to find any...

If convicted, Italian marines can serve jail term at home

The two Italian marines being tried for the alleged murder of two Kerala fishermen last year would have the option, if convicted, of serving their sentence in their home country, thanks to a recent agreement between India and Italy allowing the repatriation of their nationals lodged in the jails of the other country.

An agreement on transfer of sentenced prisoners between India and Italy became operational on December 17 year 2012 article is dated feb 2013 last year following its ratification by both the countries.

The two Italian marines, Salvatore Girone and Massimiliano Latorre, can now exercise the option of serving their sentence in Italy, if and when they are convicted by an Indian court.

Wow options to convicts.

Anther link

Marines likely to benefit from India-Italy agreement

From the Ministry of Home affairs

MHA Outcome budget for 2011-12

1.45 The Repatriation of Prisoners Act, 2003 was enacted for the
repatriation of foreign nationals imprisoned in Indian jails and vice-versa to
serve the remainder of their sentence in their native countries. For
implementation of the Act, a treaty/agreement is required to be signed with
countries having mutual interest with us in this manner. Government of India
has so far signed agreements with the Government of U.K., Mauritius,
Bulgaria, Cambodia, Egypt, France, Bangladesh, Korea, Sri Lanka, Iran and
Saudi Arabia. Negotiations have also been concluded with the Government of
Canada, Israel, Hong Kong, UAE, Brazil and Italy. Negotiations are under way
with the Governments of Sri Lanka, Iran and Maldives.

THis was ratified in the present session of Parliment with Govt inclusing Italy.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 04 Apr 2013 14:50

Sweet. Thanks.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 04 Apr 2013 15:01

We should also sign a pact with Pakistan. Then all the Paki terrorists we capture in India can also serve their sentences in Pakistan.