Know Your India

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यूरोपियों ने अपने इतिहास को छुपाया European scholars hid their real history | Aditya Satsangi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPjDgHL4Rzs

Europe for the most part was pagan in nature following many Sanatana Dharma practices, including observing the sun, moon and stars (nakshatras). Kali worship was prevalent, Shiv was revered in many places.

Check out these 5 european sites:

Aditya Satsangi has personally visited these sites and comments upon them.

1. Artic Henge, Iceland - Surya site and now a site for revival of pagans in Europe
2. Newgrange, Ireland - circular site dated very old and has swastika, bell, etc.
3. Stonehenge, Salisbury - 27 nakshatras side
4. Almandras Portugal - vastu purush in stone
5. Les Saintes Maries de la Mer in the Camargue, South of France - Roma were able to worship Kali Sara

The European archeologists are usually sponsored by the Church and they quickly erase anything to do with icons of Sanatana Dharma - swastika, devanagri script, ancient deities/devi from their sites. Pagan sites were purposely destroyed, mutilated, desecrated and sidelined completely by the church. Sometimes a church was built over worship sites (sounds familiar - the islamic hordes of the past). In Italy, Pompei they discovered statues of lakshmi, durga and other hindu deities. The Vatican (Vatica) is a storehouse (in their underground vaults) of many hindu statues but never revealed to the public.

The Britshits were initially in charge of exploration of the pyramids and they did a great whitewashing job. In Egypt they erased many things, stuck a beard to a mummy and converted female to male etc. There are sites with inscriptions of sayings in Vedas/Bhagavad Gita that were removed/hidden/plastered over. There were statues with Vaishnav markings on forehead found in pyramids and removed. Egypt's national dish is a lentil based dish whose origins are from India.

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𝐋𝐚𝐫𝐠𝐞𝐬𝐭 𝐇𝐢𝐧𝐝𝐮 𝐓𝐞𝐦𝐩𝐥𝐞 𝐈𝐧 𝐈𝐧𝐝𝐨𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐢𝐚 - 𝐏𝐫𝐚𝐦𝐛𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐧 𝐓𝐞𝐦𝐩𝐥𝐞

The largest Hindu temple in Indonesia called Prambanan. Prambanan Temple Compounds has been declared as a UNESCO World Heritage site. It is the second largest Hindu temple in all of South East Asia. 6 giant temples with 2 minor shrines, 218 smaller temples surrounding this, stretches for 48 acres. The temples are dedicated to all three - Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.

Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVZwqyNJAyQ



Sometime back there was an earthquake and the authorities with archeology dept put together the temple spires back, 154 feet tall tower. Deemed to be older than Angkor Wat, Cambodia.

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Mind-Bending Indian History - Secrets Never Heard Before | Surya Roy on Abhijit Chavda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaT6BK_SiLA

00:00 - Introduction
01:18 - Surya Roy's Historical Research Areas
01:45 - Exploring Vraj Bhumi
05:11 - Kurukshetra's Six Cities in Haryana
07:06 - Islamic Invasion of Jagannath Temple
17:01 - Navagunjara in Jagannath Temple
25:42 - Challenges in Indian History Chronology
28:00 - Ancient History of Sishupal Garh
31:06 - Orissa's Connection to Mexico & Peru
34:00 - Brahmanda Purana Descriptions
40:01 - Historical Use of Tamed Birds
42:55 - Orissa's Maritime Trades
50:54 - Shipwrecks in Historical Times
54:54 - Events in Vraj & Puri
57:12 - Invasions on Jagannath Temple
1:06:39 - Exile of Jagannath Maha Prabhu
1:10:00 - Jagannath Temple & Konark Sun Temple History
1:19:16 - Maratha Involvement in Orissa & Bengal
1:25:51 - Alivardi Khan’s Deception with the Matartha’s
1:29:09 - Bengal's Popular Narrative about Marathas
1:37:33 - History of Bengal
1:43:40 - Conclusion

Surya Roy is a Heritage Conservationist, explorer & an independent Indic History researcher whose research spans across the History & Culture of Vraj Mandal, Kurukshetra, Odisha, Bengal, Mewar & the Maratha history. He is a keen student of archaeology & focuses on the enlistment of Heritage properties & preservation of ancient manuscripts. A Life Member & Researcher with INTACH New Delhi HQ, he is also an Associate Member of ICOMOS (International Council of Monuments & Sites) which is an UNESCO body formed under the Geneva Council of 1974 for the preservation & conservation of Archaeological sites. Most recently he has also been appointed as Director of North India Operations with IHAR (Indian History & Research) a Houston US, based NGO which engages in research, preservation & practising of Indian Heritage & also provides scholarship to bright Indian students engaged in the field of Indian Heritage & History Research. By profession he is a Supply Chain & Logistics professional who has been into SC/Logistics Operations for the past 22 years now & is based out of New Delhi. Surya Roy provides valuable insights into lesser-known aspects of Indian history, offering a nuanced perspective that challenges conventional narratives.

Surya observes that the ASI under Dr. Shikaripura Ranganatha Rao did a lot of underwater exploration of the seas around Dwarka (walled city) of Sri Krishna. Many artifacts found in the area are unique and date back to around 4000 BC or older. Which places the Mahabharata war much earlier than the 3000 BC figure that many people believe in. The Britshits created ASI under Alexander Cunnigham. A lot of good work was done by the ASI. However, Cunningham himself squirreled away many ancient Sanskrit texts, artifacts and other markers to obfuscate India history. His deputies like A G Carlyle continued the practice. Surya also states that there was black stone marker in the Taj area which stated the ownership as the Maharaja of Rajputs of India. This was removed and some say it may be in the Lucknow Museum.

The entire chronology of events that occurred in India are skewed and false. Artifacts in Anuradhapura in Ceylon of buddhist nature dating back to 500 BC much before Ashoka date bandied about in Indian history. Ancient Roman iron implements used by the Roman army are found in Orissa. In 1931 R D Bannerjee wrote a book on ancient history of Orissa, and in it he claims maritime trade with Mexico and Peru from Orissa. Kautilya's Arthashastra has a chapter on maritime trade. There is giraffe carving on the Konark Temple in Orissa, which indicates trade connection with Africa. Kalinga ships were large, had stitching since nails used to come apart when going over magnetic rocks, reinforced inside with iron cagework, held elephants and men.

Aurangzeb went on a rampage for 8 years to destroy all Hindu Temples. Many Indians were involved to safeguard the temples at their own peril. During Jahangir's time, one lieutanant of his looted the Puri Jaganath temple. Priests and temple workers safeguarded the vigraha, often hiding them in places like islands on Chilka lake.

Adi Shankara visited puri and re-established the place as one of Hindu Mutts and today Puri/Jagannath is the center for Rig Veda study.

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In this discussion of Ramayana's accounting of Sugriva's search for Sita, Aditya Satsangi in his book One arrow One kill takes us through the entire Bhu Log (bhugola) in various directions. The ancient Vedic thrishul etched on Peru's Andes mountains now renamed by catholics as Candelbra of the Andes is mentioned in the Ramayana. The surprising thing is that the Vedic ancients knew of the Americas when it was not discovered until recently. {Surya Roy - in previous article - also makes the point that the sea farers from Odisha routinely voyaged all the way to Mexico and Peru}. Aditya visited the Candelbra location personally. Many other ancient terrains were explored by Sugriva team in its search for Sita. Current Maldives is cited in the Ramayana. The atlas of sugriva is filled with explicit details that one can imagine only if flying over the current globe. Aditya makes an observation that current maps like google do not show the perspective of Sun rays on the earth and some land masses are exagerated in size to appear larger than others. Another important point that Aditya makes is that true knowledge or Vigyaan is obtained only through Atma-Brahma meditation not in worldly yantra based material progress, which I completely agree.

Fascinating insights that one needs to view the entirety of YT, which is well worth your time.

विश्व भूगोल के महान ज्ञाता सुग्रीव | Sugriva's Atlas | Aditya Satsangi | Sattology

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGJNN6v2Ugw


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BTW the Candelbra and Ramayana recounting is done by none other than Nilesh Nilkanth Oak.

MINDBLOWING - Modern Tools That Decode Mahabharata & Ramayana | Nilesh Nilkanth Oak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHLaP7g1SaA

Nilesh has been to South America and he talks about Virochana (virochocha) and Aztecs. The INCAs revere them as the start of their civilization. There is also ANANTA andes, etc. The description in Ramayana is so vivid and accurate you have to believe that Valmiki visited the place in person just by his writing.

Nilesh's narration with Sanskrit recantation is amazing, beautiful explanation by a master teacher, not to be missed at all. Absolutely a must watch!

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History Books in Indian schools are propaganda material conjured by the Left/Commy historians of India says Sandeep Balakrishna. The entire text was tailored to talk about invaders being benign and the fault lay with India/Indians and its rulers. Morever, the bad guys were Indians not the invaders. Maharana Pratap was termed as a rebel who challenged Mughal Akbar. Shivaji was termed as a mountain rat who challenged Mughal tyrant Aurengzeb. The Kangress were behind much of this rubbish, they whitewashed the atrocities of the invaders and their inhuman treatment of kafirs. Only in 2000 some changes were made to the text. Most of the Indian school text books on history hid the actual truth and painted fancy tales just to suit a small coterie of lefty/commy/kangressi bloated heads who strutted around with false pride. The education dept of India was infested with these characters, a lone minority of other voices were drowned out or false allegations were hoisted upon them. There are a fair amount of leftovers who still infest the dept. The entire questions/answers in IAS/IFS/IPS exams were skewed towards this nonsense/rubbish. I say, fire the entire education dept, all the question/answer nonsense and start afresh.

Nalanda and Takshilla Universities were burnt down and much of India's heritage in University education were destroyed by the Muslim hordes. Nowadays, Indians are forced to do independent research by themselves and conclude facts for themselves despite the falsehoods taught in Indian schools. When Indians go abroad, they suddenly come to a different understanding and know that all the history text taught in schools and universities of India are blatantly wrong. We see a huge influence of Indian culture spread out across South East Asia and countries still remember their past. Indonesia being Islamic still retain Sanskrit names, honor their past and openly embrace Indian culture. China despite being communist still retain buddhist practices, their medicine is based on a text from India.

Fiery Debate - Truth About Hindu vs. Muslim | Sandeep Balakrishna

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg9j7xzGMZA

This chap Ranveer, the moderator/interviewer is trying to claim he is so neutral and politically correct does not understand the import of what Sandeep is saying based on his deep history research, logic and reasoning. This is an old trick, used by the Pope and Church, to prevent people to question them and resorted to stoning/beheading/trials for centuries and forcibly converted everyone into christianity. The Indian muslim need to know their own true history of India since their forebears where also hindus. Learning who they were is an important first step in understanding who you are today. It is okay to adhere to your religion but humanity requires that you understand the other chap without impinging on their right to exist.

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I have introduced the Prambanan Temple, Indonesia by Praveen Mohan. This temple is 2nd largest in Asia next to Angkor Wat in Cambodia and spans a vast area.

The temple houses all 3 deities - Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma.

In this YT Praveen Mohan cracks the code as to why it is called Prambanan Temple. There is ritual in which local Hindus in Indonesia pray at a certain spot, not the main temple deity. How fascinating! Find out the meaning of this ritual and why Prambanan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aZcPdJqNXU

// And the Abrahamics believe we Hindus are superstitious and don't understand the nirguna Brahman, instead we worship idols/murthis/vigrahas.

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Nilesh Nilkanth Oak is back with some additional evidence - to track his time predictions for Mahabharata and Ramayana.

There is a genetic paper which tracks Y vs X chromosomes over time. Due to the Mahabharata war many male soldiers were destroyed. The number of men vs women became skewed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptxJDBfO42w

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Saving Adi Shankara's legacy: Preventing American left from hijacking Sringeri

by Rajiv Malhotra - Infinity Foundation

Rajiv Malhotra is the modern day Guru ViswaMitra - the guru of Lord Shri Rama. His service to Hindu Samaj and Dharma is outstanding.



Sringeri in Karnataka houses one of the holiest Mutt of Hindu Sanatan Dharma Culture. Adi Shankara established the mutt and was very involved in its growth and operation. The Mutt is the custodian of Yajur Veda. Many valuable sanskrit texts were available at the site. The Britshit colonial rule, ransacked the place using a false flag raid and took away many of the original manuscripts. These manuscripts are housed in Germany and UK and some found their way to the US. The marxists cabal in the US has been gunning for these documents and usurping things for themselves. They consistently try to minimise the enormous contributions of Shri Adi Shankara.

The 10 most important of the Upanishads – ईशोपनिषद् Isha, केनोपनिषद् keno, कठोपनिषद् kato, मुण्डक mundaka, माण्डूक्य mandukya, तैत्तिरीय taittiriya, ऐतरेय aitareya, छान्दोग्य chandoyoga, बृहदारण्यक brihadaranyaka and प्रश्न prashna – were commented upon extensively by scholars like Adi Shankara, Ved Vyasa and others.

Adi Shankara is the expounder of Advaita Philosophy of Sanatana Dharma. His logic and arguments are immaculate and forms the basis of Vedantic thought. BTW all other divinity school logic of the world can be easily defeated by Adi Shankara's wonderful clear exposition of Advaita. Adi Shankara easily defeated the Buddhist Shunya school of logic. The marxists have completely invaded the Buddhists schools of thought and many of them have converted to Buddhism. They cleverly replaced India's original Gautama Buddha with a fake Nepali origin Buddha and moved the dates to later period. Gautama Buddha was around 1800 BC and believed in the Atma and reincarnation. The Buddha's teaching was more on personal enlightenment similar to his own. This is in synch with what the Vedas say and Buddhism is completely within Sanatana Dharma thinking. However these Marxists have morphed the Buddhist thought as opposite to Sanatan Dharma and, in fact, there is a world wide effort to distinquish themselves as different. The Chinese are hand in glove with the marxists dudes.

There is a concerted effort to supplant the Sringeri school with stealth marxists idealogy people and dilute Adi Shankara. Rajiv Malhotra is spearheading the effort to stop such takeover of Sanatana Dharma's revered institute.

The YT has Rajiv Malhotra trying to battle Sheldon Pollock (heavily funded by CIA/Ford Foundation/Columbia Univ), a true Marxists at heart and phony Sanskrit scholar to boot. Sheldon pretends with donning Dhoti and Tilak and teaches that Ramayana is oppressive and tries to subdue the population of Bharat at Columbia Univ. He is similar to Wendy SexCrazed Doniger. All kinds of fancy reading and interpretation to subvert Sanatana Dharma. Rajiv Malhotra did PurvaPaksha on Sheldon and exposed his phoniness to the rest of the world. Sheldon baby recruits hoardes of Indians at Columbia to do his biding. However we have people within India who will do anything for a silver piece and there are traitors within the Mutt who enable people like Sheldon dude (one Gourishankar, administrative head of the Mutt). Battling all the odds Rajiv stopped Sheldon from a takeover of Sringeri Mutt in the West and dictate his phalthu philosophy of marxism.

[Prem Kumar]

I have the Battle For Sanskrit book. Its a good, but dense read

This was a battle from nearly a decade back. It exposes the naivete of our Paramparas and how easily we get enamored by white skin, how our Acharyas are unaware of the ideological battles (while staying in their own cocoon etc)

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Astonishing three 'New' Ramayana Evidences | Nilesh Oak

In Sattology


Nilesh Oak provides new evidence for his dates on Ramayana and Mahabharata with Ocean levels @ around 18:00 in YT. Furthermore he shows how Greeks and Egyptians mapped their understanding of Devas in Sanatan Dharma. Some have exact numbers from 33 koti (types) of deities. This is fascinating work.

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Astonishing three 'New' Ramayana Evidences | Nilesh Oak
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Nilesh Oak provides new evidence for his dates on Ramayana and Mahabharata ...

In a land of esteemed mathematicians, astronomers, and scientists like Ramanujan and Bhaskaracharya, it is disheartening to see numerous pseudoscientists gaining fame and popularity. They are often quoted and have a larger following than actual scientists. For instance, few people are aware of Aryabhatta's contributions to astronomy, yet many magazines and websites are dedicated to astrology, palmistry, and daily horoscopes.

Nilesh Oakji's work, especially with respect to Mahbharata and Ramayana dating using astronomical methods, has been discussed extensively here, and while it may have some interesting aspects, it is astronomically and mathematically flawed, making it unreliable.

Nileshji had written many posts on this forum several years ago, dedicating an entire thread to his work. I appreciate the time he took to share his ideas. I have commented on those posts and also had the opportunity to review one of his book, which he kindly shared with me. As a result, I am familiar with the mathematical and astronomical aspects of his work.

I have written about and discussed these inaccuracies at length in various threads. Here are some examples for those who are interested - taken from the recent posts in Brf:

(Please do read them - I have taken time to explain and share mathematical resoning as I think it is important to understand why scientific methods are valuable)

Comments on A and V star's actual position
>> This (and other comments above and below discusses problem related to the positions of stars Arundhati (Vega) and Vasistha (Deneb) in a brf thread .

Arundhati and Vasistha Problem - from math dhaga - Simple way to calculate and not in alignment with Oakji's point
(I present a problem in Math dhaga, involving two towns, "Arundhati and Vasistha, and a magnetic compass." The goal is to determine the direction change between Vasistha to Arundhati ...
- simple way to 'check out' without computer simulation (and complex calculations) if the Oakji calculations make scientific sense)

Recent comment on Balaji's post about the same subject
Nilesh Oak's book, which claims to provide evidence for the dating of the Rama-Ravana war to 12209 BCE and why it is lacking in basic math and astronomy, despite using scientific terms. it provides a link to a more detailed critique.


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^ AmberG,

Have you by chance watched Ancient Apocalypse on Netflix? The show presents the theory that there was a civilization that was lost in the ice age. While they cover Indian evidence a bit, much of the show is about monuments found around the world that predate the pyramids or Mohenjo-daro.

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Thanks but no I have not watched or even heard of this series .. I did check out for more information..
FWIW - I have no interest in watching this series - it seems that it is speculative and pseudoscientific by the vast majority of academics and experts in the fields of archaeology, history, and science. His ideas are not supported by credible evidence.

For example here is one critique: ‘Ancient Apocalypse’ is more fiction than fact - An archeologist and a misinformation myth-buster take aim at misleading claims in the popular Netflix series.

Phys dot org says this: Netflix's 'Ancient Apocalypse' is more fiction than fact,

Caulfield calls "Ancient Apocalypse" a great example of the "Galileo Gambit"—the logical fallacy that you must be right because everyone else thinks you're wrong.

"Actually, most of the time it means you're wrong," says Caulfield...

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In a land of esteemed mathematicians, astronomers, and scientists like Ramanujan and Bhaskaracharya, it is disheartening to see numerous pseudoscientists gaining fame and popularity. They are often quoted and have a larger following than actual scientists. For instance, few people are aware of Aryabhatta's contributions to astronomy,

Thanks but I am not interested in whether it is scientific/mathematic or not. Nilesh Oak has his viewpoint, I am open to the possibility, since Bharat is an ancient civilization and am fking tired of Britshits/Western viewpoints on India narrative (which is frankly bogus and BS). There are so many myths perpetuated by Britshits/Western dudes I frankly don't trust anything from them, certainly not from their scientist/mathematicians no matter how great they are in their field. Their entire edifice of science/math is based on seminal contributions from Bharat which they don't acknowledge one bit.

What was more interesting for me was 33 koti deities correlation which has been taken by Greeks and Egypt cultures.

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Getting back to knowing India. The talk is about Itihaas - Ramayana and Mahabharat. Many points are given which indicate that Bharat's Itihaas is not like the rest of the world history tales. The rest of the world writes history based on the victor's version of things. However Bharat's Itihaas has stellar authors who are really Rishis who have understood Kam, Arth, Dharm and Moksh and they are neutral in perspective without taking sides. Another angle is that the story shows how integrated the entire Indian continent was with common culture and themes. The word Arya and AnaArya were used to indicate noble and unnoble behaviours - no race connotation. Ravan was son of a Rishi - not the Dravidian / Aryan nonsense spouted by the dravida cabal of the south and AIT fools. Lanka of today may not be the lanka talked about in Ramayana. Some deep research is required to map the places mentioned in the Itihaas.

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FWIW: Let me comment:

In a land of esteemed mathematicians, astronomers, and scientists like Ramanujan and Bhaskaracharya, it is disheartening to see numerous pseudoscientists gaining fame and popularity. They are often quoted and have a larger following than actual scientists. For instance, few people are aware of Aryabhatta's contributions to astronomy,

Thanks but I am not interested in whether it is scientific/mathematic or not. Nilesh Oak has his viewpoint, I am open to the possibility, since Bharat is an ancient civilization and am fking tired of Britshits/Western viewpoints on India narrative (which is frankly bogus and BS). There are so many myths perpetuated by Britshits/Western dudes I frankly don't trust anything from them, certainly not from their scientist/mathematicians no matter how great they are in their field. Their entire edifice of science/math is based on seminal contributions from Bharat which they don't acknowledge one bit.
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With all due respect, I know as you say that you are not interested in whether it is scientific or mathematical, but I, and many others, are interested in truth.

As we say, "

मतिर् भिन्नाः, सिद्धान्त एकः

Or "Western dudes" will say:

Opinio est libera, sed facta sunt veritas

("One is entitled to one's opinion, but not to one's facts.")

I too am critical of Western indologists who dismiss ancient Indian science with biased agendas. I am equally disappointed in Indian "scholars" who counter with unscientific and superstitious claims.

Unfortunately, these claims often rely on personal attacks against reputable scientists rather than logical reasoning, hindering constructive dialogue and undermining the value of India's rich scientific heritage.

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With all due respect, I know as you say that you are not interested in whether it is scientific or mathematical, but I, and many others, are interested in truth.
As we say, "

मतिर् भिन्नाः, सिद्धान्त एकः

Or "Western dudes" will say:
Opinio est libera, sed facta sunt veritas
("One is entitled to one's opinion, but not to one's facts.")

I think you are barking up the wrong tree. If you have issues with Nilesh Oak please write a book refuting his theory, he is open to being wrong, if proved properly. It is btwn you and Him, please leave me out of such discussions. That is why I am not interested in whether it is scientific or mathematical on conjecturing possible dates for Mahabharata. We are dealing with an Avatar's visit on earth and the first tenet is to accept consciousness, if not all things are moot and useless.

I am just giving latitude to Indian authors. I would not give that to any Western/Brit authors on any topic that deals with India/Bharat. BTW the big bang physics theory has bitten the dust after finding many more galaxies.

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Continuing with knowing India, PGurus provides a fascinating talk on the temple city of Kanchi and Lord Rama's visit there. Many nuggets of information to be learned in YT. Ruler Krishna Deva Raya is credited with rebuilding many great temples that we enjoy today.

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Samanvaya in Bhagavad Gita by Nilesh Oak- 27-7-2024

Nilesh Oak, adjunct faculty at Institute of Advanced Sciences, Dartmouth, Massachusetts, talks about various texts including bhagavad gita. One observation he makes is that Yoga sutra verses of Patanjali have an equivalent verse in bhagavad gita. I am not sure about that.

One data point that Nilesh mentions is that every 2000 years there is a 1 month shift. There is a four month shift in bhagavad gita from what it is today, and this is roughly 8000 years prior to present.

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Some years back I had written this article in my book and also had my own read by local reader in Vaitheeswaran Temple, TN.

Nadi Olaichuvadi

Lord Shiva of the Hindu trinity gave the Ved Agamas, the practical know how of Religion as described in India’s four Vedas - the theory of ancient Vedic knowledge of man and its relationship with the creator and universe. The word Agama means 'that which has come to us'. Sruti, the eternal word, is said to be of two forms – Nigama (Veda) and Agama. The Vaishnava and Saiva texts are generally called Vishnava Agamas and Saiva Agamas respectively, while the word Tantra in general applies to Sakta texts. Agamas expound a variety of subjects and could be called the guides to a huge range of Hindu practices. Agamic texts in contrast, though they deal with various disciplines of knowledge, are primarily meant to be guides for practitioners. While the Vedic form of yajna requires no idols or shrines, Agamic tradition requires any of the hindu Ishvar idols. Initially Agamas were Jainism scriptures based on Mahavira’s teachings.

Shiva revealed to this planet Earth about the science of the journey of Atma through birth and rebirth without considering materialism. In a divine conversation of Lord Shiva and Parvathi Devi, the SaptaRishis record the words of Lord Shiva as historical evidences to prove that the phenomenon of this universe are not incidental happenings but pre-planned execution. Sages Agastya, Vishvamitra (Koushika), Vasishta records the divine wisdom in Sanskrit into various chapters like Maha Shiva Nadi Thulliam Sukshmam, Sukshmal sukshmam Jnana Ashi, Pothuvinsevai Kandom. The Sanskrit palm leaves written by Agastya, Vishvamitra, Vasishta etc. was the universal laws of Lord Shiva’s divine commands about this world. Original Sanskrit palm leaves by SaptaRishi Sages are not available now since India suffered major losses during repeated foreign invasions. These texts were ripped and burnt, Brahmins all over India were scattered, texts were divided, most of them were lost and some were looted for their value.

Thanjavur King Sharabhoji II (1777-1832) with the help of scholars translated from Sanskrit into Aadi Tamil (ancient Tamil) language and renamed them as Nadi Palm Leaves or olai-chuvadi (palm-leaf). They created palm leaves in the name of sages Agastya, Vishvamithra (Koushika), Vasishta, Bhrigu etc. They are Suka Nadi, Kaushika Nadi, Brahma Nadi and Agasthiya Nadi. These Nadis are not easy to read as they are written in ancient Tamil and are in poetry form, i.e. in sonnets and couplets. Only expert linguists who have studied this form over many years can read them. After this process the original Sanskrit palm leaves were unavailable and/or destroyed. The Saraswati Mahal Library in Tanjore was the repository of Nadi palm leaves.

Afterwards the British acquired the Nadi palm leaves and took possession, which they immediately sold to some families for money. Nowadays, these are generally available as Nadi Palm Leaves and stored at Vaitheeswaran Koil in Tamil Nadu, India, a Shiva temple about 250 kilometers (155 miles) south of Chennai near Chidambaram. Nadi in Tamil means "get/search in due/proper time".

The practitioners of Nadi leaf reading are around the Vaitheeswaran Temple. Initially the process of finding the right leaf is carried out, firstly, by taking a thumb print of the client. The lines on the thumb are classified into various types and the palm leaves are arranged according to these types. There are 108 categories of thumb prints, and for each type there are four to five bundles of leaves. Each bundle of leaves has 12 chapters containing names, life details including past life. The practitioner asks a series of questions and answers are provided to the related information on the leaves selected. In order for your exact leaf to be found, you need to respond "yes/no" to all the questions for a leaf. Once the exact leaf is found then the practitioner reads out the 12 chapters that match you. These are the Akashic records for you as enunciated by Lord Shiva. Every idea ever known to man is stored in the Akashic records. It is possible that an exact leaf cannot be found since there are many Nadi texts that have gone missing.

Now PGurus Sree Iyer visited Vaitheeswaran Temple, TN



You can find out if his recounting matches what I have written above.

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@bala gaaru, what is the title of your book?

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India in one screenshot

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@bala gaaru, what is the title of your book?

Vaya ji, unpublished book, title to be decided!

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Some years back I had written this article in my book and also had my own read by local reader in Vaitheeswaran Temple, TN.

Nadi Olaichuvadi

Now PGurus Sree Iyer visited Vaitheeswaran Temple, TN

You can find out if his recounting matches what I have written above.

I have been fascinated with the Nadi Olaichudi reading ever since I had heard about it. I was blown away with my own personal reading and have put it to test with more than a statistically significant sample size. Being an engineer/ scientific type, I was initially skeptical. Were these guys working off an algorithm? Do they ask the similar type of questions and come up with the name? Were they able to guess the names because they were Indian Hindu names? Were they mind readers to see your facial expression to get a confirmation signal?

The birth chart that they created was accurate. I later on compared it to my chart based on date and time and place of birth!

Over time, I have learned that the thumb prints are classified into 108 categories. The date of birth helps in indexing things faster. Now, one would presume that if two people have the same thumbprint categories, their readings would be similar. NOT!

I have worked with a particular set of guys from Vaitheeswaran Koil since 2017 and found them to be very accurate. I have helped over 60 people from various nationalities/ ethnic origins have their readings done remotely from the US. Lots of Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian, American, Indian and others. Jewish, Christian, Hindu, Agnostic and even Muslim(!). Each person's reading has been unique. No two persons had the same/ similar reading. Professions ranging from Executives, Entrepreneurs, Engineers, Doctors, Realtors, Students, Healers, TV personalities, Social Media etc.

The names of these persons and their parents and spouse names are sometimes names that most of us may not even have heard about. Some of them have very interesting backgrounds and are involved with things that are carry-overs from their previous lives. Some even have ailments that are related to their previous karma. Legal or personal issues that weren't apparent initially came out in the readings! Lots of interesting stories.

The reading describes your life ahead, year by year. Me being curious, I have followed up with some of folks to see how their readings corresponded to the actual life. So far the correlation has been pretty good.

All I can say is that there is a method to the madness that has been figured out by our ancestors. From my youth days of dismissing this as mumbo-jumbo and probably some general characteristics that jyotishis can predict, all I can say is there is more that we do not know! Just take a moment to ponder how is it that your parents got together and chose your specific name. Why not a different name?

If anyone is fascinated to know more about these readings or has some explanations, let me know.

[chaitanya]

These readings sound interesting Bala and RCase. Thanks for sharing. RCase, does one get the reading done if you cannot visit?

[RCase]

These readings sound interesting Bala and RCase. Thanks for sharing. RCase, does one get the reading done if you cannot visit?

No need to visit. Can be done via WhatsApp.

Process:
1. Male - right thumb print, Female - left thumb print. Make about five prints on a piece of white paper. Send the copy via WA. Multiple copies of the thumb print help to figure out the pattern if one print is not clear at some spots.
2. Provide your date of birth
3. Search is conducted to locate leaf bundles that might be yours.
4. When bundles are located, you will be asked a few Yes/ No type questions. There is no fixed pattern of questions (no algorithm that I could figure out). Some of the questions might be very significant to your life experience. For e.g. 'Have you had any significant digestive system ailments? 'Are you involved with a legal case?, 'You are working in a country different from your birth country', 'Are both of your parents alive', 'Have you achieved a higher degree (Masters/ Phd) etc.
During this process, you will know about your name, your parents name (father and mother). Side note: we had a person from North India. They have a practice of changing the woman's first name after marriage. Both her names came up in the leaf! Also some corroborating facts of your life. For e.g. number of children (approx age), spouse, other significant events etc. may pop up.
This process ensures that your leaf is uniquely identified.
5. The reader creates your natal chart (the accuracy is mind boggling). No time and place of birth required!
6. Your reading starts from here.
This part of the reading is recorded and voice recording is sent to you after the reading is done, along with your natal chart.
There are various levels of readings (depending on the price). i typically deal with the detailed version that spells out your life and significant events by the year.
You will also learn about your past life - where you were born, your name and parents name and your karma that resulted in the current life. I am not aware if there is a way to really verify this. I have always thought of this as an interesting story. However, I can vouch that each person's past life story has been different and in an interesting way is connected to their current life experiences in its own unique way.
7. Some of the challenges in your current life are due to 'doshas'. There are prescribed pujas (pariharams) to alleviate these doshas. It is up to you to choose to perform these. I view them as some of your karmic debts. For each person, it is different (duration and type of puja)

For the people that I am involved with, some of the pariharams and pujas are quite foreign concepts, as they are not from Indic or Dharmic backgrounds. They also may not be able to visit these places in India to get the pujas done. The guy I deal with at Vaitheeswaran Koil helps to get these pujas done and sends video/ photos of them.

The prasadam from the pujas (vibuthi, kumkum and may be a yantra (little copper piece) or amulet. will be mailed to you.

[chaitanya]

That is truly fascinating... any way to get in touch with you?

[RCase]

That is truly fascinating... any way to get in touch with you?

nadiastrologyus at google chacha mail

[chaitanya]

Thanks, replied - looking forward!

[venkat_kv]

That is truly fascinating... any way to get in touch with you?

nadiastrologyus at google chacha mail

Rcase Saar,
I have also sent an email regarding the nadi astrology. thanks in advance.

[RCase]

nadiastrologyus at google chacha mail

Rcase Saar,
I have also sent an email regarding the nadi astrology. thanks in advance.

Please check your email. I have already replied to you.

[venkat_kv]

Rcase Saar,
I have also sent an email regarding the nadi astrology. thanks in advance.

Please check your email. I have already replied to you.

Rcase Saar,
the previous one was got bounced , i guess the message came pretty late. I have resent it again after double checking the address. Can you reply again Saar?

Admins, Sorry for these messages, but if needed this posts can be moved/deleted. Just fascinated by what Rcase and bala Saar have posted.

[bala]

Krishnadevaraya Revived Hinduism while Expanding his Empire

Narasa Nayaka, the father of Krishna Deva Raya, was the Governor of Chandragiri Rajya and before that he was a nayaka at Devikapuran, North Arcot District, TN.

Krishna Devaraya re-built the Tirupati temple. It was Krishna Devaraya who gave the land (Seven Hills), gold, and the temple architecture of Karnatic-Vijayanagar. Krishna Devaraya fought the Portuguese on both coasts simultaneously. Kapaleeshwara temple was originally at Santhome in Chennai. The Portuguese destroyed the temple and built their church at the spot, now called the Santhome Church. The new Kapaleeshwara temple was rebuilt by Krishna Devaraya in Mylapore, Chennai some distance inland. Only a Hindu will not destroy a church to rebuild a temple! Krishna Devaraya also built the Kamakshi amman temple and the Ekambareswarar temple in Kanchipuram. These are outstanding temples of Kanchipuram. In Tirupati temple there is a statue of Krishna Devaraya with two of his consorts, I have seen it. Tirupati temple walls have writings etched in stone in mainly Tamil language and some Telugu, Kannada and Sanskrit.

Krishna Devaraya is one of the outstanding rulers of India, our history books hardly do justice for such great people. The Vijayanagar empire was created before Krishna Devaraya and I have talked about Vidyaranya being instrumental in its creation. Hampi as a tourist place is a must see destination for those interested in ancient Hindu kingdoms. Hampi is a beautiful and glorious site even now after so much destruction of the past.

[bala]

There is a concerted effort in Western Univ to usurp consciousness theory - well established in Vedas. Rajiv Malhotra is at the forefront of such battles with a new book:

The Battle for Consciousness Theory

[bala]

Praveen Mohan dwelves into Jantar Mantar in a series of YT. Well worth your time to learn basics of astronomy - sun, moon, polaris, etc. Jantar Mantar was built 300 years ago when astronomy in the West was just beginning.

Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLCz8_yA-T8

You need to find true north first. Polaris. Dhruva Darshak Yantra
Polaris is a star in the northern circumpolar constellation of Ursa Minor. It is designated α Ursae Minoris and is commonly called the North Star or Pole Star.

Some 5,000 years ago, Thuban in constellation of Draco the Dragon was the Pole Star. Ankor Wat in Cambodia is a depiction of Draco the Dragon.

Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaYVWRIfmts

Next you create a wall in North-South axis and track Sun movement throughout the year.
Dakshinottara Bhitti Yantra

Learn about Analemma.

There are more upcoming YTs on Jantar Mantar.

[bala]

BTW Praveen Mohan has a take on the Taj Mahal structure..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzc9Uvr9LEM

[bala]

What was the Secret of Success of Rajaraja, Rajendra Chola? How the Economy thrived.

Rajesh Govindarajulu in PGurus.

The grandeur and majesty of the Chola Empire stretched all across SE Asia. The Chola Ships did not have iron nails since they rust. Sanjeev Sanyal has something to say regarding Chola shipbuilding in another YT.

Entire Sri Lanka was under Rajendra Chola. Cholas used elephants (Gaja-shastram) effectively in warfare.

[bala]

India needs to learn from Cholas / Col DPK Pillay (r) / Lt Gen P R Shankar (r)



Very interesting take by Col DPK Pillay on Indian history, worth listening, his passion is infectious. He believes that India should be at the forefront of strategy and Britshit drawn lines should not be honoured, instead India of yore was from Afghanistan to Burma. Chittagong was never a Muslim dominated area, it was a buddhist area. But the Britshits donated the area to the Pukes.

India needs to take to offence and be the boss in the area. Cholas recognized that conquest is part and parcel of creating an empire and peace is established by the big player. Otherwise there are numerous conflicts and no progress can be made. Bharat faces the same situation. Indians have to get educated about their past, in which success was created by its rulers like Cholas. The Marathas effectively ruled India after the Moghuls. Vijayanagar empire thrived during the raids of Islamic hordes in northern india. Our neighbors like the Pukes are unstable, so are BD, Nepal, Lanka, Maldives, Myanmar, Tibet and so forth. We don't need to start wars, but we need to tell these small nations it is better to merge with Bharat and come under the umbrella of Indian defence forces. Any economic help, we place this option. Nepal, lanka, myanmar, bhutan will be open. BD, Maldives are a can of worms. Sindh, baluchistan and POK should be easier.

We need leaders with a vision, more institutes advising the Govt on strategy, a more freer hand for the armed forces. Currently the Armed forces of India are well trained, well motivated, they seem to win in any joint exercises with other nations. The Indian Navy showed who is the boss in Indian ocean area especially African cost and middle east. Reshaping the contours of the Indian continent requires a Chola on the top.

[Amber G.]

According to a newly published article, two astronomers, Mayank Vahia of the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research in Mumbai and Mitsuru Soma of the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan, have identified the oldest known reference to a total solar eclipse in the Rigveda, dating back approximately 6000 years. (Some still insists that RigVeda was written in 1500 BC ) The passage describes the eclipse as the sun being "Pierced" (viddha) by darkness and gloom, and attributes the sun's disappearance to the "magic arts" (māyā)

The Rigveda mentions the vernal equinox occurring in म्रुगशीर (Mrugashira, Orion) and कृत्तिका (Krittika, Pleiades), allowing astronomers to date these events. Due to the Earth's axial precession, the vernal equinox has shifted over time, occurring in म्रुगशीर around 4500 B.C. and in कृत्तिका around 2230 B.C.



The earliest written reference in Indian astronomy to a total solar eclipse is in the Rig Veda where Rishi Atri is said to have demolished the asura Swarbhanu to liberate the Sun from a total solar.

The Rig Veda describes the occurrence of the eclipse, how the Sun suddenly disappeared in the daytime under the spell of the Asura. The people and gods were scared but the Great Sage Atri saved the Sun and restored his full glory. While discussing the eclipse, Tilak refers to the eclipse as having occurred when the Vernal Equinox was in Orion.

Based on these data, they identify ‘Atri’s eclipse’ as the one that occurred on 22 October 4202 BC or on 19 October 3811 BC.

This discovery highlights the ancient Indians' advanced knowledge of astronomy and their ability to record and pass down this knowledge through generations. The Rigveda's references to astronomical events demonstrate its significance as a historical and scientific text.

I like these kind of articles based on solid astronomical basis rather than *many* which are not.
(Credit: Recent article, some personal comments)

[RCase]

I had been inundated with various queries about Nadi Astrology. Decided to put together a website that can serve as a basis to understand things a little better. Would love to hear of other's experiences and plausible explanations.
https://www.nadiastrologyus.com