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Satya_anveshi wrote:If one looks at Khalid Khawaja's vids on U-tube, you will notice that his dressing style is uniquely Mehsudian. This is in constrast to Tarrar guy wearing a different style white turban.
Sir-ji,
Those videos need to be posted here for some well deserved koofar entertainment. Please don't enjoy akele akele.
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Satya_anveshi wrote:Friday came and gone. Whatever happened to TFT nuggets - Such Gup?

someone please!
What ? Have you added me to your 'ignore' list ?

Nuggets are here

Such Gup is about Shoaib-Sania-Ayesha issue which I decided not to post.
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The one message that this Col Imam (Brig Amir Sultan Tarar) brings out is that, Pakistan sponsored guerilla warfare against the regime of Sardar Dawood, brought the required results for Pakistan. Sardar Dawood met Z A Bhutto to negotiate.

This guy calmly mentions sabotage, and bomb blasts and attacks against the Afghan Army.

Now with this background and success, how many think pakistan will not find using the same tactic against India not lucrative? Aren't our weak politicians now sueing for peace with the terrorist nation so that they don't have to listen to the reports of people dying in bomb blasts?

There are two solutions to this use of terror by Pakistan:
1. Like a weakling, sue for peace on Pakistan's terms
2. Apply newton's third law, == against pakistan with the premise, that India being a much bigger nation with huge stamina will outlast small pakistan if the same pogrom is applied to it.

I would say one needs to tighten the belt and unleash the power of India's intel agencies within pakistan to undo that nation. This must be pursued with renewed vigour with each new leadership taking stalk of the situation and re-applying ourselves. Pakistan's 3.5 friends helps non-withstanding, that nation must be undone.
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Added parts 4,5 & 6 to the Col Imam interview (Brig. Amir Sultan Tarar) to a private TV channel some time ago, where he reveals a few things. See for yourselves.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvqJFu0-HGM
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGhmtcTbOMA
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIRWp6bfu5w
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDVZU3SA ... re=related
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAGPhyHQ ... re=related
Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PROAUGU5 ... re=related
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U.S. working with India on AfPak: Petraeus

http://beta.thehindu.com/news/internati ... 409056.ece
“It (India) is not in the title (of Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan Richard Holbrooke), but he has certainly had a lot of activity with our Indian partners,” General David Petraeus, Commander of the U.S. Central Command, told the Charlie Rose Show on the PBS.
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A new word gets coined for 'scrap heap' -

Greek Bonds approach Pakistani levels
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Suppiah wrote:A new word gets coined for 'scrap heap' -

Greek Bonds approach Pakistani levels
(more appropriate to be extended on BENIS but...) karachi stock exchange is trading Jehadi Default Swaps - insurance against your vest wearer not 'going live' at the right time... or actually come to think of it, the pak government is selling the reverse instrument and unkil is buying it up like crazy..., the underlying asset base being jehadic funds, and as we know there is no liquidity crisis in that market...
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shravan wrote:Afghanistan 'foils Kabul bomb plot'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_yP9xHjgM0
Afghanistan's police force has said that a Pakistani army officer is among the men arrested after it broke up a group planning to carry out suicide attacks in Kabul.

Security has been stepped up in the capital, despite the fact that alleged appears to have been foiled.

"Just a couple of days ago the police arrested 16 people. Nine of them were actually suicide bombers, all trained outside of Afghanistan," Mohammad Hanif Atmar, the Afghan interior minister, told Al Jazeera.

Asked whether he saw evidence of the involvement of Pakistan or parts of the Pakistani security forces in the plots, Atmar said: "The evidence speaks for itself. We are investigating into this matter and we will be soon talking to our Pakistani colleagues.

"And then basically [we will] show this evidence to them and say is this happening based on a policy or is it just a couple of rouge people doing this."
X Posted. Once again the Islamic Jihadi terrorist supporting behaviour that is de rigueur for the Army of The Islamic Republic of Pakistan on display.

More than likely that the Pakistani Soldier arrested in Afghanistan for attempting to commit the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan has been brainwashed into living out the “Jihad fi Sabilillah” or translated “Jihad in the path of Allah” part of the motto of the Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

The citizens of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan seem to enjoy blowing themselves up even outside their home country :roll: .
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Security developments in Pakistan, April 24

April 24 (Reuters) - Following are security developments in Pakistan on Saturday.
LOWER DIR - A suicide bomber rammed an explosive-filled vehicle into a police bus on the way to escort prisoners from a jail in Pakistan's northwestern district of Lower Dir, wounding 10 policemen, investigating officer Shakeel Ahmed said.

ORAKZAI - Four militants were killed in a clash in the northwestern Orakzai region, where government forces have stepped up attacks in recent weeks on insurgents who have taken refuge from earlier sweeps, security officials said.

QUETTA - A bomb planted in a bakery went off in the town of Sibi in the southwestern province of Baluchistan, wounding six people, police said.

PESHAWAR - The Pakistani Taliban has issued a "last warning" to media to "stop working as an ally" of the government and the army and to tell the "truth" about Taliban attacks, a militant spokesman said in an e-mail to some media outlets.
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SSridhar wrote:What ? Have you added me to your 'ignore' list ?
Oops..sorry SSji. Don't know how I missed that.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010

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Orbat analysis of the recent "Talibs will get nukes and bomb India" story:
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akistan could give Taliban N-weapons to use against India This from a US Government commission on nuclear proliferation. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 847006.cms
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We confess to mild confusion about this report. First, how can the Pakistan government be sure that the Taliban will use the weapons against India - the US commissions mentions Kashmir. The Taliban could equally use the weapons in Afghanistan or against Pakistan.
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Second, we're not quite sure how you heave a 1000-kg package across the Kashmir Line of Control. Infiltrators on foot and in small groups do sometimes make it over, but is the report saying Pakistan can break down a weapon into - say - 25 parts, hand the Taliban a screwdriver and a spanner, and get them to reassemble it in Kashmir?
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Now, someone is going to say an N-warhead does not weigh 1000-kg. Maybe. But you have to surround it with a lot of shielding if people are going to go walking up mountain and down mountain with the thing on their backs.
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Third, if Srinager or Jammu blows up, and the Pakistanis say - uh, we didn't do it, is it likely anyone is going to believe them? India's sitting on a few n-weapons of its own, you know.
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Fourth, if a couple of Pakistan warheads go walkies and explode in India, how long will it take the West, Russia, and China to figure out that a very high threshold has been crossed, and having gone walkies once, Pakistan warheads could go walkies again, this time against a Western or Chinese or Russian city?
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Not long, we figure, and we also figure it won't be long before Pakistan is disarmed. Not by people seizing its warheads, but by people attacking all likely storage facilities - with N-weapons, of course.
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Now, we're not saying Pakistan GHQ is not famous for its illusions regarding proxies. In the first, second, and fourth Kashmir wars, Pakistan initiated hostilities by sending into Indian held territory its soldiers, or irregulars trained and led by its soldiers. The illusion didn't last even a day in all three cases. We find it hard to believe the Pakistanis could be this crazy, i.e., get a proxy to blow up an Indian city or two and then sit back and say "there's no one here but us meeces."
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shravan wrote:Afghanistan 'foils Kabul bomb plot'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_yP9xHjgM0

Afghanistan's police force has said that a Pakistani army officer is among the men arrested after it broke up a group planning to carry out suicide attacks in Kabul.

Security has been stepped up in the capital, despite the fact that alleged appears to have been foiled.

"Just a couple of days ago the police arrested 16 people. Nine of them were actually suicide bombers, all trained outside of Afghanistan," Mohammad Hanif Atmar, the Afghan interior minister, told Al Jazeera.
This is a very important development, as important as the arrest of Kasab. The arrested Pak army captain should be tried publicly. This team may have been trying to attack the Indian embassy - there were reports to that effect a few days back.
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Pak may slip over N-weapons to Taliban for use against India


^^^sum
Fourth, if a couple of Pakistan warheads go walkies and explode in India, how long will it take the West, Russia, and China to figure out that a very high threshold has been crossed, and having gone walkies once, Pakistan warheads could go walkies again, this time against a Western or Chinese or Russian city? --- From ORBAT
What would be indian response in return? Do we swallow the thesis of Non State Actor doing it, over which PK has no control.
Even if this scenario is conjured up by US to ostensibly buildup the case for taking control over PK nooks, India might like to make it clear that few cities in PK could be erased from their maps. That would strengthen the case of US to take over PK nooks to avoid this.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010

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Suppiah wrote:A new word gets coined for 'scrap heap' -

Greek Bonds approach Pakistani levels
:rotfl:
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Something is cooking:

http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/apr/ ... terror.htm

My hunch is that TSP will undertake some window dressing on 26/11 (under US aegis) and MMS will meet Gilani during SAARC and we all live happily every after.
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"Pakistan expected to respond to India's latest dossiers tomorrow" Rehman Malik
Wonder what Shubh din is coming up? Oh and they also want access to Kasab to "record his testimony" to pursue cases in Pakistan.
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My good deed for the day. I know it is a bit late but I just uploaded the Press conference of the UN Benazir Commission which summarizes the report as 4 parts

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw3MhC0JTZ4
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oIj5EVgXAY
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mic1H2KWiOQ
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L29Ort2Es4

The Playlist with all videos is here: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... 56377C66B0

The entire video with better quality I have uploaded on Vimeo http://vimeo.com/11192393 Is it worth linking from the first post about TSP? The comments about "the establishment" are quite damning
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All in a day's work
For all those who experienced Jumma Withdrawal Syndrome (JWS) yesterday: Bombs, missiles, bullets leave 29 dead in Pakistan
A suicide car bomber attacked a prison van while gunmen torched six NATO oil tankers in separate strikes Saturday that killed four Pakistani police officers and wounded 10 others, authorities said. The army, meanwhile, kept up its pressure on the Pakistani Taliban in the tribal belt, killing 20 suspected fighters, while apparent U.S. missiles killed five alleged insurgents in a nearby northwest region, officials said.
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anupmisra wrote:All in a day's work
For all those who experienced Jumma Withdrawal Syndrome (JWS) yesterday: Bombs, missiles, bullets leave 29 dead in Pakistan
A suicide car bomber attacked a prison van while gunmen torched six NATO oil tankers in separate strikes Saturday that killed four Pakistani police officers and wounded 10 others, authorities said. The army, meanwhile, kept up its pressure on the Pakistani Taliban in the tribal belt, killing 20 suspected fighters, while apparent U.S. missiles killed five alleged insurgents in a nearby northwest region, officials said.
Add 4 more to the count
Four policemen killed, 12 tankers torched at Tila Gang
Twelve oil tankers transporting fuel for Nato were set on fire by miscreants also killing four policemen in Tila Gang area, RPO Aslam Tarin told Geo News Saturday.
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Anujan wrote:My good deed for the day.
Thank you ji.
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Anujan wrote: The comments about "the establishment" are quite damning
Thanks for the uploading. Which segment has these comments?
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Establishment investigating Establishment
Gilani constitutes fact finding committee to probe hosing of BB's crime scene
Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani Saturday constituted a fact finding committee to probe the hosing down of the crime scene soon after the suicide and gun attack on former prime minister Benazir Bhutto on Dec 27, 2007.
The committee headed by Cabinet Secretary Abdul Rauf Chaudhry will determine "whether the then Director General Military Intelligence gave an order to police official(s) for washing / cleaning of the crime scene of the murder of Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto," a press release of the PM House said.
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Other members of the committee are Maj. Gen. Sajjad Ghani Vice Chief of General Staff and Fayyaz Tooru Addl Chief Secretary (Home) Peshawar.
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Power cuts anger Pakistan traders. 8)
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Fellows, Which one of you left the BENIS Pingrezi comments on the video? Please let the comments be serious and relevant -- this issue is important so that people know that this is unbiased indictment by a Chilean diplomat of UN of the way affairs are being run. BENIS Pingrezi comments will just make it appear as another partisan "India - Pakistan" sniping. This issue has nothing to do with India-Pakistan. So, I am going to delete all Pingrezi comments, let us use the BENIS dhaaga instead

CRamS-ji, I arbitrarily chopped up the video so it is under 10 minutes each segment (youtube limit), you can skip and skim, hard to miss that part.
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Pakistan asks India to handover Kasab, Ansari
Malik asked the delegation to bring the Indian officials to Pakistan in Pakistani courts who investigated Kasab :eek:
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Interior Minister Rehman Malik has asked Indian high commissioner on Saturday to hand over Ajmal Kasab and Fahim Ansari to Pakistan and sought details of about 32 Indians in connection with the Mumbai attacks. :roll:
Malik said that the Pakistan Government has taken strict action against banned organistaions :rotfl:
He also asked India to hand over Taj Mahal and Red Fort brick by brick
No wait! I just made up the last one but who knows....? You never know the pakis.
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:rotfl: So they can use their "justice system" to find him not guilty and release him.

No, more likely they will blame everything on him, shoot him and as India to shoot Modi as tit for tat because they shot a Paki.

Ever invited a dung beetle for a game of chess? He won't come. You need to play with him in his dung. That's what it is like, playing with Pakis.
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shiv-ji, Didnt Rehman Malik claim that Kasab is not a Pakistani? Why this sudden change of heart?
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shiv wrote:Ever invited a dung beetle for a game of chess? He won't come.
:lol:
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Anujan wrote:shiv-ji, Didnt Rehman Malik claim that Kasab is not a Pakistani? Why this sudden change of heart?
My take is that Pakistan knows that India will never accede to that request. It can then close the case against Lakhvi and six others in ATC, Adiala for want of evidence. If one follows the case carefully (Mumbai terror thread), it is quite clear that the Pakistanis have contrived to make it appear that the whole case depends only upon Kasab's confession. It has neither independently probed the case (except cursorily to arrest some low-level operatives), nor placed any reliance on all the evidences accumulated by India and the US and presented as dossiers. It is also made clear that confession in an Indian court was invalid. The Pakistani State is complicit in this since it has incorrectly and deliberately declared Kasab (and Fahim Ansari) as fugitives, which the Court has struck down. So, Rehman Malik is now requesting the extradition of Kasab. This situation is a deliberate making so that Pakistan can turn around and say that India was not cooperating. The whole issue arises from the fact that Pakistan refuses to accept the proceedings in an Indian court as fair and just.
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To keep things in perspective, India is adding close to Pakistan's GDP every year. India has to take steps to check the terror emanating out of Pakistan, otherwise it is clear where they stand. India's economic growth will accelerate while Pakistan will be stuck in 2-4% range.
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csharma wrote:To keep things in perspective, India is adding close to Pakistan's GDP every year. India has to take steps to check the terror emanating out of Pakistan, otherwise it is clear where they stand. India's economic growth will accelerate while Pakistan will be stuck in 2-4% range.
With or without the US and China bankrolling that country and its defense purchases?

Can you please post the relevant figures.

Thanks
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SSridhar:

TSP is just toying with India and making a fool of us. I don't know how long India will play along with this tamasha. Short of forcing TSP to act against LET, TSP will play these games. I am sure Indian govt knows this, womder if they'll just give up on Mumbai and cave in to TSP/USA demand for talks on Kashmir, or will come up with a better strategy to nail down TSP. This dossier diplomacy has run its course.
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India's GDP is close to $1.5 trillion (from Economist World in 2010). Nominal GDP growth this year would be at least 12%. So India is adding 180 billion dollars to its GDP this year.

Pakistan's GDP is 170 billion dollars. if it grows by say 6% nominal it will be a 180 billion dollar economy.

So you can see India is adding close to or even more than the GDP of Pakistan every year.

Pakistan's GDP growth numbers as projected by Economist or ADB etc are in 2-4% range. I am no expert on Pakistani economy but I guess there are deep structural issues with the economy and the recent aid by US etc will just keep the country floating for the next few years. It will be a while before it can get to the high growth rates it saw during Musharraf years.
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Thanks csharma.
CRamS wrote:TSP is just toying with India and making a fool of us. I don't know how long India will play along with this tamasha. Short of forcing TSP to act against LET, TSP will play these games. I am sure Indian govt knows this, womder if they'll just give up on Mumbai and cave in to TSP/USA demand for talks on Kashmir, or will come up with a better strategy to nail down TSP. This dossier diplomacy has run its course.
I agree that TSP is toying with India.

But that is a desperate sort of toying. Those guys are in deep shit and they know it! On mumbai 26/11 they have been caught with their pants down, and India is making a spectacle of them. India is making a dent on the H&D and in public too. H&D wrt India is the only thing they had left having sold their soul and their body to the US and China, rest everything is in tatters - and India is pulling that down too.

They don't have much to look forward to. Their common citizens are so enamored by the glamour of India, that the faujis and the jihadis have to work extra hard just to prevent the aam pakistani family from staying back. They have to hire the services of Jahil Hamid to peddle poison to the youth to prevent the next generation from going over to the other side. (the earlier generation had that sustained by the bloodshed of partition and then by the 71 debacle)
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Three more complexes in POF Wah.
All three have talll walls with tight security.

The first one is most interesting.
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These are located in the area of Gadwal, in Wah where there is a Uranium enrichment facility, manufacture of N weapons components and a storage area. These could be part of this facility.
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It will be a while before it can get to the high growth rates it saw during Musharraf years.
Wonder how much of that high growth rate had to do with Shortcut Aziz's Sialkot Statistics, I mean a country with high growth rate cannot wake up on the first morning without Mushy and find itself in the toilet.
There used to be a self styled economics expert on BRF who believed that Pakistan's economy was doing much better than the Indian economy in the 2000s.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010

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Militants attack police check post in Nasirabad {in Baluchistan}, three killed
Three policemen have been killed as militants attacked their check post in district Nasirabad.
According to official sources militants equipped with modern weapons opened indiscriminate fire on the Rabee police check post which left three policemen dead.
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a spokesmen for the Baloch Republican Army claimed responsibility for the attack
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If TSP Government supports terrorism, there would be no peace in India: Rehman Malik
Rehman Malik, by trying to be clever-by-half, is blurting out truth.
Interior Minister Rehman Malik has rebutted India’s charge of Islamabad doing nothing to stop terrorism across the Line of Control (LoC), saying that had the government been actively supporting terrorism there would be no peace in India. {So he agrees that terrorists are sneaking into India from Pakistan across the LoC, a charge that Pakistan has strenuously denied so far claiming all terrorism in India to be indigeneous}
“Within hours of the attack, we got in touch with Delhi and offered out unconditional support,” he said. Malik said that investigations were immediately ordered in Pakistan after the attacks “without waiting for any dossiers from India” {Why such a haste ? Was Pakistan convinced that such an attack would have Pakistani signature ? How can it then accuse India that every time there is a terror attack, India jumps to conclusion about Pakistan immediately ?}, adding that he had personally supervised the investigations.
“We have credible signals and evidence of interference in Balochistan. Let Mr Chidambaram come here... we are ready to welcome him. I am even willing to meet him in India or a third country if he so chooses. Let us sort out our security issues and decide what to do about them. I will come up with my evidence, my issues, my observations{Why don't you share it with India by sending it through diplomatic channels as India did, Mr. Rehman ?} and he is welcome to bring his own. Bring your experts and sort it all out once and for all,” the interior minister said.
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Mahendra wrote:
It will be a while before it can get to the high growth rates it saw during Musharraf years.
Wonder how much of that high growth rate had to do with Shortcut Aziz's Sialkot Statistics . . .
Of course. In order to present an image of “shining Pakistan” to not only its own people but also the rest of the world, the Pakistani government started fudging figures and removing those in Planning Commission who were a hindrance to this process. Chief economist Pervaiz Tahir was shunted out because he differed with the Government over the numbers on poverty reduction figures. This ‘window dressing’ assumed huge proportions during the tenure of Prime Minister Abdul Aziz and President Musharraf that when Aziz quit the job, the whole edifice collapsed like a pack of cards. Later, in order to get more funds from the World Bank, the Pakistani government tried to lie its way through by presenting ‘inaccurate data’ to the Chief of World Bank. The World Bank saw through the game and refused to accept the data presented by the official Pakistani delegation. In fact, WB President Robert Zoellick, used 'derogatory language', according to reports. The unedifying episode was thus a repeat of a similar one in circa 2000. Pakistani business newspaper, Business Recorder, in its editorial of August 1, 2008, has freely accepted the usual proclivity of Pakistani economic managers to fudge figures to hide inconvenient truths.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010

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Pakistan hands over 6 dossiers to India, all in a single day
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According to sources, Indian Deputy High Commissioner Rahul was summoned at Foreign Office and handed six dossiers on the headway made in Mumbai Attacks investigations {Now, one can be sure that Mr. Manmohan Singh will meet Gilani. There is also a possibility of a Thimpu declaration on the lines of SeS. After all, hasn't Pakistan accepted that headway has been made ?}

The dossier has been sent to New Delhi through which the extradition of Ajmal Kasab, the gunman, and Fahim Ansari, an Indian accused of conducting reconnaissance of Mumbai landmarks before the attack, has been sought.

The dossiers comprise the answers to questions raised by India in connection with the Attacks. Also, the explanation of some questions has been demanded of India.
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