Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2012

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 07 Aug 2012 05:19

DLP CJ perceives Himself as KLP

TV Channels are spreading vulgarity, observes CJ

ISLAMABAD: Chief Justice of Pakistan Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry on Monday observed that television channels were “spreading vulgarity” and PEMRA was doing nothing to prevent it.The chief justice gave the remarks during proceedings on an application filed by Justice (retd) Wajihuddin and former Jamaat-i-Islami (JI) chief Qazi Hussain Ahmed against obscenity aired on TV channels.The chief justice cited some offensive programmes and advertisements and said that one find it difficult to watch them with family.He also said that some of them were aired even during Iftar time, which should be avoided.Acting Chairman of the Pakistan Electronic Regulatory Authority (PEMRA) Abdul Jabbar, who had appeared in the court, sought a month’s time to do the research, but the court denied his request.The Chief Justice told Jabbar to categorise programmes with proper ratings – like it is done in the Western media – so that the people should know beforehand what they are watching.
The PEMRA acting chairman stated that the Indian channels were banned in Pakistan to restrain broadcast of any improper programmes and added that the Pakistani channels would now also be screened for any such programmes.Jabbar further informed the court that the laws related to regulating the programmes were not well-defined. The concept about vulgarity was not clear. “Something which is vulgar to the complainants may not be vulgar to you and me.”Observing that the TV channels now air press conferences and programmes against the judiciary, the Supreme Court ordered the PEMRA chief to present the related to such programmes in the next hearing.The chief justice observed that the court was aware about the TV shows which were aired solely for the purpose of maligning the judiciary.The court also observed that Jabbar was working as an acting chairman for the last one year

parsuram · Post by **parsuram** » 07 Aug 2012 05:40

It is very stupid and blind sighted to trust pakis to conduct thousand - millions- of financial transactions via their so called banks in India. Does no one remember BCCI? We have stupid people, or just plain naifs in their "hopefool" approach to dealings with the paki. NEVER forgot - the paki ALWAYS, remember, ALWAYS, wants something for nothing. The Paki. It is a biological Entropy Bomb. Do not get entangled with the paki at any social, political, financial or any other level. I have, in the past provided a detailed definition of the paki. I can't emphasize those characteristics enough. Wanting something for nothing and connivance towards that end is right up there. Oh and I'm really glad my descriptive spelling of Djinnha has caught on among friends on the forum-but remember that it end with ha, not ah (derision, not satisfaction). Djinnha was the most paki among pakis.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 07 Aug 2012 06:49

anupmisra wrote:Paging Dr. Khan; Paging Dr. Khan
Blah Blah Blah....

To this end I have established a movement named “Tehreek-e-Tahaffuz-e-Pakistan which aims to make voters aware of the significance of their ballot, the sanctity of their vote, and the great importance of electing honest, competent, educated representatives in the coming elections in order to be able to get rid of corruption and feudal politics.

So he has started a party called TTP. I am sure Pakistanis all want TTP, not sure which TTP though.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 07 Aug 2012 08:40

krithivas wrote:This is along the lines of what China claims with Indians based in Arunachal Pradesh - That they don't need a visa to enter China because they are Chinese. If this is securely and very carefully managed by GoI, it could be a strategic weapon. LoC no more.

Another interesting case is Russia and the South Ossetian region of Georgia. Most residents of the region have opted for Russian passports, giving Russia a claim. It is a form of plebiscite.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 07 Aug 2012 10:14

IDSA has published a book, India's Neighbourhood: Challenges in the Next Two Decades. It is available here. The chapter on Pakistan is very comprehensive.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 07 Aug 2012 15:02

http://tribune.com.pk/story/418396/grav ... d-vaccine/

Islam, father of nine children , took his daughter to Mardan Medical Complex. She had been suffering from severe temperature a week ago. Doctors had administered a treatment but her left leg became paralysed. The doctors suspected that it may be a case of polio, and stool samples were sent to the National Institute of Health, Islamabad to check for the polio virus.

After the samples were examined, a Wild Poliovirus Type-3 was confirmed to have existed by PM Secretariat Spokesman for the Polio Monitoring Cell, Mazhar Nisar.

“A campaign begun in our area and a religious family began telling residents that these vaccinations are not good for your children’s health and are haraam,” Islam told The Express Tribune. “The number of people following this family are in thousands,” he explained, “And more than two-thirds of the parents refused to vaccinate their children, despite teams visiting each house personally.” A number of Ulema reportedly visited the family who waged propaganda showing them fatwas that polio is not against Islam but the influential family could not be convinced.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 07 Aug 2012 15:10

I hope if India does not Ban Pakis flying to India, US,UK and West put restrictions, Ban of Indians travelling to the West. This will immediately tie WKK undies in a twist and personally affect them resulting in an automatic stop of WKK enthused influx of pakis into India.

Any Indian having travelled to Pakistan along with relatives in USA UK need to put under severe tests and have travel restrictions, like MSA, Harh Mander etc..

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 07 Aug 2012 15:38

Aditya_V wrote:I hope if India does not Ban Pakis flying to India, US,UK and West put restrictions, Ban of Indians travelling to the West. This will immediately tie WKK undies in a twist and personally affect them resulting in an automatic stop of WKK enthused influx of pakis into India.

It appears you have never talked to WKK personally before. I have and I can say few things about them. These WKK from India think that themselves and Pakistanis are like lost & abused brothers and are being abused even today. WKKs feel that India is a foster home and they need to team up with Pakis to blowup the foster home for abuse. They have completely lost perspective of reality and any external entity harming India is in their best interests and enemies enemy is a friend logic kicks in. They are a lost cause.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 07 Aug 2012 16:03

An ex. Do you think a MSA would stop his London jaunts and visits to his daughter in Chicago because of Paki polio problem?

Based on my thinking WKK- support Pakis because they don't see India as thier country and care a rat's a** if India is harmed. If thier personal interests are harmed, then it is anther issue.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 07 Aug 2012 16:05

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 07 Aug 2012 16:23

http://newsweekpakistan.com/scope/1592
Mango Diplomacy Fails

Pakistanis are abandoning much-publicized mango exports to the United States after just a year because American requirements made profit margins too narrow, members of the industry said Monday.

Although Pakistan has its own irradiation plant, it has not been approved by the United States. Transporting the mangoes to the United States has been another expense and complication, the Pakistanis added. Asif Iqbal, a mango grower in Sargodha district of Punjab province, told AFP that unless the irradiation issue was resolved and more U.S. markets found “it will never be profitable for us to do business with America.” A Pakistani official speaking to AFP on condition of anonymity confirmed that U.S. aid had helped modernize mango production and improve exports, particularly to the Gulf. {The real news}

There you go. Typical paki news. Outrage and complaints against the US for unfair treatment. Sense of entitlement. But the real gem (higher profit margins on export to gulf because US paid for modernization) buried somewhere in the end.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 07 Aug 2012 16:29

http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?pa ... 2012_pg1_1

Taking notice of private TV channels allegedly ridiculing the judiciary, the Supreme Court on Monday ordered PEMRA to provide a list of such TV programmes on August 13. A three-member bench of the apex court, headed by Chief Justice of Pakistan Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, also said TV channels were now airing press conferences and programmes against the judiciary, and that the court was aware of certain talk shows that were aired for the sole purpose of maligning the judiciary. The court ordered PEMRA Acting Chairman Abdul Jabbar to submit the record related to TV programmes that were aired during the last week, and asked PEMRA whether it had taken action in this regard.

Deputy Attorney General Dil Muhammad Alizai requested the court to also take notice of the TV shows that run parodies of politicians, but the chief justice observed that such programmes were done “in good humour” and that they “are enjoyed”.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 07 Aug 2012 16:45

Just curious. I'm not a big finance guy, but how does Switzerland actually make money by keeping other people's ill gotten wealth in their vaults? I suspect it is from charges levied and from the freedom to use those funds in investments that earn money for the banks and the country. Typically (I suspect) it is only people who have wealth in excess of 100 crores who will find Switzerland useful.

There are probably 10,000 Pakis with that sort of money. If the minimum deposit on the bank of Pakistan in India is kept as say 10 crores in freely exchangeable currency or e money, as long as that money i available for Pakis to invest in India, it will be the RBI that actually holds the cash and can use it as capital no?

After all your own life savings earn you interest only because someone else is making and extra margin on your money, paying you some and pocketing the difference.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 07 Aug 2012 17:45

Regarding the travel ban by the UK & USA on WKKs, I believe that many of these WKKs, if not all, are sponsored by Uncle & Aunt anyway.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 07 Aug 2012 17:53

If you make a list of WKK, they probably will be who is who of Journalism and NGO's. Which democratic Govt in the world has ever been able to silence WKK's of their countries in normal times

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 07 Aug 2012 20:22

VikasRaina wrote:If you make a list of WKK, they probably will be who is who of Journalism and NGO's. Which democratic Govt in the world has ever been able to silence WKK's of their countries in normal times

But in no other country they dictate policy with respect to an enemy country.

No wkk in USA says there should free visas for Pakis and AL quaida.

kenop · Post by **kenop** » 07 Aug 2012 21:03

The Pakibanks should be mandated to do transactions only in USD if they are indeed allowed to enter the sector. Do not know if they have tried their hand at faking USD in the past.
Swiss banks make money by charging for deposits. For a crook having a few thousands of crores it is a good enough deal. As long as money does not go to zero very fast, charges are fine. In any case money making does not stop and the proceeds keep pace with inflation.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 07 Aug 2012 21:50

kenop wrote:The Pakibanks should be mandated to do transactions only in USD if they are indeed allowed to enter the sector. Do not know if they have tried their hand at faking USD in the past.

They've been there and done that. See Bank of Credit and Commerce International which was described as "the biggest bank fraud in world financial history" by one district attorney. They didn't need to print fake dollars (or fake euros or whatever). All they had to do was claim that only yesterday, a rich (and non-existent) sheik in their Abu Dhabi branch had deposited X gold bars. The whole thing was a gigantic ponzi scheme and the bank became infamous for fraud and currency manipulation. At one point, the bank had lent 3x their capital to a single pakjabi family alone, who were good friends with the bank president. See this congressional report for details. The gory details start at chapter 4.

kenop · Post by **kenop** » 07 Aug 2012 22:06

ArmenT wrote:
kenop wrote:The Pakibanks should be mandated to do transactions only in USD if they are indeed allowed to enter the sector. Do not know if they have tried their hand at faking USD in the past.
They've been there and done that. See Bank of Credit and Commerce International

I am sure they'll find some new innovative way to create another scam.
My concern was about FICN that would most likely be high on their agenda.
The BCCI was more of regular money laundering in the drugs supply chain. Terror funding (not the way understood today, which seems only to mean directly hitting western interests) was a side effect. Had CIA angle too (through BoA).

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 07 Aug 2012 22:46

Pizza Hut in Pakistan ditches all-you-can-eat Ramadan offer to curb 'unrestrained gluttony'

Pizza Hut has withdrawn its all-you-can eat Ramadan offer in Pakistan prompting howls of fury from thousands of hungry Muslim families used to breaking their fast with plate after plate of deep pan or thin crust.

Imran Khan, a student and regular customer at a branch in Karachi, said: "The place was always packed in the evening. For a lot of people it had become a Ramadan tradition so this change is very sad."

what happened to good old khajoor

As an alternative, many people are turning to Chinese buffets or burger joints although pakoras – vegetable or chicken fritters - remain the most popular way to break the Ramadan fast, according to a recent survey by Gallup Pakistan.

disha · Post by **disha** » 07 Aug 2012 23:15

shiv wrote:Just curious. I'm not a big finance guy, but how does Switzerland actually make money by keeping other people's ill gotten wealth in their vaults? I suspect it is from charges levied and from the freedom to use those funds in investments that earn money for the banks and the country. Typically (I suspect) it is only people who have wealth in excess of 100 crores who will find Switzerland useful.

There are probably 10,000 Pakis with that sort of money. If the minimum deposit on the bank of Pakistan in India is kept as say 10 crores in freely exchangeable currency or e money, as long as that money i available for Pakis to invest in India, it will be the RBI that actually holds the cash and can use it as capital no?

After all your own life savings earn you interest only because someone else is making and extra margin on your money, paying you some and pocketing the difference.

Some swiss banks charge net negative interest rates. That is you pay money to keep the money safe (outside of your mattress). The rest of the income come from different fees and investment activities as you suspected. Swiss banks come in all flavours, right from the big two (for eg. Credit Suisse) down to private ones (like Mirabaud) and each has minimum deposit requirements. For some the deposit is as low as 2.5 lakhs swiss franc, say INR 1 crore. In fact, Indian government should set up banks registered in A&N and Lakshadweep and open only to nationals from Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Burma, Afghanistan and Pakistan - with strict reporting requirements to RAW and IB.

The above banks should be modelled on swiss banks. You should check out the annual report for banks like http://www.ubp.com/cms/ubp/swiss-bank/P ... al-reports and https://www.mirabaud.com/getFiles/M-CHM ... R.pdf?Open and see how much assets they have! One has some 72 Billion Swiss Francs and the other is very private and exclusive and has some 54 Million Swiss Francs in assets. Overall Swiss banks generate some 10% of swiss's GDP (it could be more!).

The goal should be to suck up all the black money from the neighbouring countries incl. Pakistan, but yes mostly from Pakistan. Anyway they do not pay much taxes there. Further with all the visa restrictions for the Paki abdul in the various west countries and the very very negative rate of return in oirope particularly in UK., it is necessary for them to park their money safely somewhere. The denominations of deposit can only be USD or Euro (there is lot of black USD floating around in bakistan in mattresses). The above banks can only invest in infrastructure and utilities. If possible BRF should be able to start a bank!!

I think the idea of allowing FDI from Pakistan via controlled checkpoints is good. There is genuine concern about execution of such an idea. This is nothing but a take on the old medieval indic way of raising princes in the opposing kingdoms. It is an avenue for control.

disha · Post by **disha** » 07 Aug 2012 23:36

Aditya_V wrote:Any Indian having travelled to Pakistan along with relatives in USA UK need to put under severe tests and have travel restrictions, like MSA, Harh Mander etc..

They already have severe tests and travel restrictions. I know of one Indian, who curses his parents even now, by some quirk of fate he was born in transit via Islamabad and his birth certificate is now "tarnished" (his words). And the "tarnishment" happened some 5 decades back ... This chap is not able to travel much or when travelling has a bunch of questions to answer and feels that is under constant surveillance or viewed with suspicion.

When AIDS broke out, GOI did put a AIDS test in place immediately (and was kind of a travel restriction for western countries). So all it will take is for the WHO to declare quarantine on Pakistan for polio and the fun will start.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 07 Aug 2012 23:39

disha wrote:If possible BRF should be able to start a bank!!

I think the idea of allowing FDI from Pakistan via controlled checkpoints is good. There is genuine concern about execution of such an idea. This is nothing but a take on the old medieval indic way of raising princes in the opposing kingdoms. It is an avenue for control.

I can see the RAPE thronging to deposit their money with BRF bank! If those lurkers are always parked on BRF forum, then their money might just as well be parked at BRF Bank!

partha · Post by **partha** » 07 Aug 2012 23:56

In today's news

1) http://tribune.com.pk/story/418714/ahma ... -sargodha/

Ahmadi charged with posing as Muslim for second time in Sargodha

2) http://tribune.com.pk/story/418708/rohi ... president/

Rohingya Muslims: Zardari writes letter to Myanmar president

3) Pakistanis are world's number one hypocrites.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 08 Aug 2012 00:26

Ramadan ‘police’ target Pakistan’s cafe society

Islamabad’s police have suddenly found cause to turn their attention to the capital’s poshest eateries in an effort to enforce a patchily applied, decades-old law forbidding people from eating or drinking in public during the fasting month of Ramadan.

The raids, which police say were prompted by a complaint from a member of the public, followed last month’s police assault of a journalist who had the temerity to consume a soft drink in his car at a secluded hilltop beauty spot overlooking Islamabad.

He said he was beaten with belts by the officers, who threatened to charge him under the Ramadan Ordinance, a law passed in 1981 by General Zia-ul-Haq, the then military ruler who did much to make Pakistani society more Islamic

disha · Post by **disha** » 08 Aug 2012 02:00

RajeshA wrote:
disha wrote:If possible BRF should be able to start a bank!!
I can see the RAPE thronging to deposit their money with BRF bank! If those lurkers are always parked on BRF forum, then their money might just as well be parked at BRF Bank!

Rajeshji, I made the above light bulb comment at the spur of the moment. I was thinking about it later and not able to shake the idea away. Actually I am getting more serious about that line of thinking and ready to put time, effort and money as well. Let me clarify some thoughts to myself and maybe we can have a side discussion on the above.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 08 Aug 2012 02:31

RajeshA wrote:
disha wrote:If possible BRF should be able to start a bank!!II can see the RAPE thronging to deposit their money with BRF bank! If those lurkers are always parked on BRF forum, then their money might just as well be parked at BRF Bank!

Paki should be encouraged to export FBI too ( Female Body/Booty Investment ) and paid with fair return . There is big demand in Haryana and surrounding area with Indian FBI (F..ing Big Indian) folks. FBI (F.. BY Indian) certified Paki will qualify for extra gracious marks for Canadian visa too.

FBI Yindians Tall,Fair and Good
Growing Market of Paki FBI Goods
Dollars, Pounds,Euro or Ruppiya
Bolo kya Daam ,Paki FBI Bhayya
Nache dono tubb,
Thaa Thaa Thayya!!

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 08 Aug 2012 04:08

Lack of sanitation costs Pakistan 3.9% of GDP: Report

Pakistan has the worst sanitary conditions in the South Asian region and its total economic impact amounts to a loss of Rs343.7 billion, which is equivalent to around 3.9% of Pakistan’s gross domestic product (GDP), the Media Scrap Book reveals.

The book was launched in Islamabad on Tuesday at the National Press club. It revealed that 52,000 children die annually due to diarrhea in Pakistan. It also reveals that in Pakistan, 14 million people still do not have access to safe drinking water and over 90 million are without improved sanitation. “40 million people – nearly one fourth of the total population – in Pakistan practice open defecation,” the book mentions.

Quoting data from various studies, the book points out that approximately 50 million people defecate in the open and an estimated 8 million people use shared toilets.

partha · Post by **partha** » 08 Aug 2012 04:09

http://articles.economictimes.indiatime ... wer-sector

As much as 40 per cent of the power generated in India is not paid for. The bulk of it is stolen.

YAWN news report from the future -

Islamabad: Responding to Indian prime minister's statement that India will be forced to cut power supply to Pakistan until it pays up, Pakistan prime minister Imran Khan said here that before demanding payment for electricity supplied to Pakistan, India should first try to collect payment dues from Indian consumers. He quoted the Indian planning commission report which said 40% of the power generated is not paid for. He warned that cutting power supply to Pakistan will only strengthen the hands of the extremists and destabilize the South Asian region.

Relations between India and Pakistan are on the down trend ever since the Hindu nationalist party came to power in India.

India and Pakistan have fought three wars since their independence in 1947.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 08 Aug 2012 04:14

Now you know that a paki is smoking something very potent and expensive when he says that Pak-US ties are based on mutual trust, respect.

...and would continue to strengthen in the days ahead.

Pakistan’s role in the global war against terror was also discussed and its sacrifices to make the world a better place to live, were appreciated.

partha · Post by **partha** » 08 Aug 2012 04:25

Brad Goodman wrote:Lack of sanitation costs Pakistan 3.9% of GDP: Report

Pakistan itself is a victim of Pakistan makes sense now

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 08 Aug 2012 06:18

RajeshA wrote:
disha wrote:If possible BRF should be able to start a bank!!

I think the idea of allowing FDI from Pakistan via controlled checkpoints is good. There is genuine concern about execution of such an idea. This is nothing but a take on the old medieval indic way of raising princes in the opposing kingdoms. It is an avenue for control.

I can see the RAPE thronging to deposit their money with BRF bank! If those lurkers are always parked on BRF forum, then their money might just as well be parked at BRF Bank!

We will need a separate banking thread where we praise all investors, their ancestors, their relatives, and promise to consider all demands they make.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 08 Aug 2012 06:56

partha wrote:In today's news

1) http://tribune.com.pk/story/418714/ahma ... -sargodha/
Ahmadi charged with posing as Muslim for second time in Sargodha
2) http://tribune.com.pk/story/418708/rohi ... president/
Rohingya Muslims: Zardari writes letter to Myanmar president

Death is the only prescribed punishment for posing as a Muslim, IIRC.

Before Zardari talks to Myanmar about the plight of Rohingya Muslims, he should resolve the plight of the Muslims in his own country, and then that of the collaborator Bihari Muslims in BD.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 08 Aug 2012 07:27

Come come now, Pakistan has a lot of experience in dealing with East Pakistanis, eg Rohingyas. They should perhaps offer their 'good offices' to the Burmese generals.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 08 Aug 2012 08:30

DLP CJ ki KLPD

PPP resolves not to write letter

ISLAMABAD: The People’s Party will not write a letter to Swiss authorities for reopening cases against President Asif Zardari and will ‘resist’ actions by the Supreme Court within bounds of the Constitution, the PPP resolved on the eve of Wednesday’s hearing in the NRO implementation case. The PPP’s frontline leaders met in the presidency on Tuesday night and chalked out a strategy to cope with the situation if the Supreme Court showed the door to the prime minister for contempt of court over not obeying its orders in connection with writing the letter.Political and legal observers believe the government-judiciary tussle will intensify in the days to come as they expect that Prime Minister Ashraf could also be ousted like his predecessor Yousuf Raza Gilani was removed for contempt of court.As all eyes are now on the Supreme Court and its Wednesday’s decision.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 08 Aug 2012 08:36

Turbat bomb blast kills 4 Paki security men

QUETTA: At least four security men were killed and a dozen others sustained injuries when a bomb planted along side a road in Turbat's Shapik area went off with a powerful blast on Tuesday.According to initial reports, the Deputy Commissioner of Balochistan confirmed the killing of four security men of Balochistan Constabulary and injuring of 10 others.
According to Levies sources, the blast damaged a vehicle of Balochistan Constabulary and injured its several personnel.

arun · Post by **arun** » 08 Aug 2012 08:52

“The Pakistan Army-run Canteen Stores Department (CSD) witnessed an unprecedented protest Tuesday when its top management including Managing Director Maj. General (r) Anwar Saeed was locked inside the headquarters after they served termination letters to around 130 contractual and regular employees, and that too in the month of Ramazan.”:

Revolt in army-run CSD after summary dismissals : Major general locked in, gates shut, discrimination alleged

James B · Post by **James B** » 08 Aug 2012 13:19

Pakistan SC issues contempt notice to PM Raja Pervez Ashraf

The farcical game begins again

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 08 Aug 2012 15:57

disha wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:Any Indian having travelled to Pakistan along with relatives in USA UK need to put under severe tests and have travel restrictions, like MSA, Harh Mander etc..

When AIDS broke out, GOI did put a AIDS test in place immediately (and was kind of a travel restriction for western countries). So all it will take is for the WHO to declare quarantine on Pakistan for polio and the fun will start.

And thier Bank accounts assets should be immediately seized.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 08 Aug 2012 16:15

Greece preparing to deport 1,600 Pakistanis

Golden Dawn Goes After Immigrant Charged With raping 15 year Girl

no need to even guss who that 'immigrant' is ! Its pretty obvious.