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D Roy wrote:Yes and let's see what the Abduls got out of it:

1. Assam- Found it difficult to withstand well trained and armed tribal militia. basically exited kokrajhar and tried to raise a stink in Dhubri.


2.Mumbai - 2 dead. More would have died if not for uber sickular top cop. two who desecrated one of India's most sacred places now getting "special treatment" in bade ghar.

3. Western UP - Six killed in Pandu firing. All young males have fled Masuri for the time being fearing they'll be picked up.

4. TN - four arrested and have managed to anger the yindoos in their area.

I am sorry, but none of this is new. It is typical Abdul tactical brilliance and I have grown up seeing this.

Now let me say something which funnily enough will be less palatable to some here than to the RoPers themselves.

The Abduls have been defeated on the subcontinent. Their Ghazi days are long over.

They will soon realize this. Many already have.

But of course some of them have this misplaced notion that creating trouble will get them jobs. It won't.

ramana wrote:

Gus wrote:^ tamil papers have more details and are damning. I encourage everyone to drop english media (print and tv) and go for vernacular which are more to the ground.

Gus, Please give brief description from the Tamil press.
Looks like omerta in English language press!

Appropriate as they are a mafia.

The govt should name the Sri Lankans and the "Boss" for future ref.

Keeping it confidential will enable more of the same.

D Roy wrote:haha.

Your response is expected my friend.

But if you think a little differently you will know that your analogy about battle and war is precisely the point.

Give it time. Ghazi shit went on for 800 years. Let's look a little beyond 65 years. Remember they got two stans because of the Anglo- Saxons. One Stan doesn't have nukes one does.

And there is Yindoo resurgence not decline.

Just think for a second what the situation was when Vivekananda boarded that ship for America?

devesh wrote:Hyderabad is calm. too calm. makes me more than a bit suspicious. this film was a good excuse to get some organizing going in the Ummah in and around Hyd. and there is a significant population concentrated there.

Police foiled BJP activists' bid to take out a rally towards the police parade grounds in Nizamabad to hoist the tricolour. The main road from NTR chowrasta to Railway Khaman was closed to prevent the T-activists from entering the area. The closure of the road leading to Armoor caused severe inconvenience to commuters.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 440862.cms

http://www.siasat.com/english/news/those-who-demand-observe-liberation-day-sept-17-are-inhuman

kshatriya wrote:^^ shyamd, What you are saying happened 15 years ago in 1997/1998(bombs recovered from schools etc). The terror plot involving an explosion and hospital attacks did happen in 1998

Here's the "secular" perspective:
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http://www.siasat.com/english/news/thos ... re-inhuman

sum wrote:

Here's the "secular" perspective:
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http://www.siasat.com/english/news/thos ... re-inhuman

What can one say? Reading the article and the comments on that are enough to show that we allowed tons of snakes to breed in our backyard and the future generations will surely repent it

Anzari was introduced to Boss alias Ameer Subbiah Siddique — said to be the person in charge of the Tamil Nadu unit of ISI and working out of the Pakistan consulate in Colombo — in 2011 by a friend in Sri Lanka, to whom he had lamented about losses incurred in onion export. As Ameer promised a huge amount in return for security details in India, especially Tamil Nadu, Anzari returned to India and travelled across the nation, taking photos and videos of places like Defence Services Staff College at Wellington, ports in Vizag, Nagapattinam and Karaikal and coastal security arrangements.

The anti-US protests that continued in the city for the fifth day on Tuesday turned ugly when members of over 20 Islamic organisations clashed with the police on the stretch of Anna Salai between Spencer Plaza and Buhari restaurant.

As a result, traffic moved at a snail’s pace for several hours between Gemini Flyover and Spencer Plaza and also the smaller roads branching out of this stretch; while the movement of vehicles was completely blocked beyond Spencer junction.

Around 2 p.m., a stage was erected next to Tarapore Towers, a little away from Makka Masjid on Anna Salai, and protesters slowly began gathering. The protest that started around 3.30 p.m. saw hundreds of people who burnt US flags and effigies of US President Barack Obama, flung footwear on pictures, raised anti-US slogans and held banners that depicted American leaders in poor light.

Banners with text in Tamil that translated to ‘Prophet is dearer to us than our lives’, were distributed to by-standers who shouted in support. Among the protesters were seven-year-olds, Abbas and Shabbir, both wearing identical sherwanis and carrying posters that said, ‘We hate those who hate prophet’.

Also, part of the protests was a group of school children in white and brown uniforms hauling bags that contained writing pads. “We came straight after writing the science exam,” said Karim, as he tied his shoes with US flags before sprinting off to join a group that was burning effigies of Obama and Hillary Clinton.

Around 5 p.m., when the protesters were done with sloganeering and agitating, organisers announced in the microphones “Veetuku ponga, dhayava seidhu veetuku ponga (Please go home),” and urged them to clear off.

But fifteen minutes later, several youth suddenly turned violent, broke the barricades and began marching towards the US consulate. Police battalion stationed near the Spencer Plaza junction stopped the protesters and did not allow them to proceed further. Then, all of a sudden, there was deafening silence for nearly 15 minutes as protesters performed namaaz on the road.


“Whatever happens, we will ensure that we pray on time, wherever we are,” said a protester. Soon after the prayers, some members of the crowd began throwing stones at the police, which resorted to lathicharge. Several among the protesters sincerely attempted to prevent the mob from resorting to violence. But the situation went out of control.

An angry group set a few motorcycles on fire and damaged an MTC bus. Traffic came to a standstill from Spencer Plaza to Dams Road and Thousands Light for half hour after police lathicharged the protesters. Some protesters and policemen were injured in the clash that ensued. By 6 p.m., the protesters slowly dispersed and traffic returned to normalcy in half hour.

The protesting groups included members of Socialist Democratic Party of India, Tamil Nadu Muslim Munnetra Kazhagham, India Thowheeth Jamath and Jamath Ulama Sabai. “This is the first time clergies of important mosques in the city are taking part. We are trying our best to make it peaceful,” said Ashraf Jahangir, a protester who tried to calm down those getting violent.

Anticipating a large turnout of protesters, police cordoned off main roads and appointed special teams at several junctions, including Spencer Plaza, LIC building and Royapettah signal, among others. Also, most shops in the area closed down when the situation grew tense.

According to police sources, over 20 Muslim groups obtained police permission for a peaceful protest near Tarapore Towers on Anna Salai.

kshatriya wrote:No arrests even yesterday. Amma is seriously losing it. Locals are furious. If she shows soft behavior continuously, It will signal the end of her political career.

ramana wrote:DMK is fanning the LTTE cause.

The stretch of Anna Salai from the Mount Road Dargah to Spencer Plaza, was a scene of violence, as the police resorted to lathi- charge to control members of various Islamic organisations who had hurled stones at the police.

On the fifth day of the protest against the American film, over 5,000 people belonging to nearly 25 Islamic organisations gathered near Holy Dargah Hazrath Syed Moosa Sha Khaderi, popularly called Mount Road Dargah

Mohammed Munir, vice-president, India Thowheed Jamaath, said Tuesday’s protest was to show the collective strength of Muslims. {To whom ?} “Muslims across the city came together to show how unfair it is to ridicule the prophet who is dearer than our lives.”

Among the protesters were seven-year-olds, Abbas and Shabbir, both wearing identical sherwanis and carrying posters that said, ‘We hate those who hate prophet’.

Also, part of the protests was a group of school children in white and brown uniforms hauling bags that contained writing pads. “We came straight after writing the science exam,” said Karim, as he tied his shoes with US flags before sprinting off to join a group that was burning effigies of Obama and Hillary Clinton.

Around 5 p.m., when the protesters were done with sloganeering and agitating, organisers announced in the microphones “Veetuku ponga, dhayava seidhu veetuku ponga (Please go home),” and urged them to clear off.

But fifteen minutes later, several youth suddenly turned violent, broke the barricades and began marching towards the US consulate. Police battalion stationed near the Spencer Plaza junction stopped the protesters and did not allow them to proceed further. Then, all of a sudden, there was deafening silence for nearly 15 minutes as protesters performed namaaz on the road.
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“Whatever happens, we will ensure that we pray on time, wherever we are,” said a protester. Soon after the prayers, some members of the crowd began throwing stones at the police, which resorted to lathicharge. Several among the protesters sincerely attempted to prevent the mob from resorting to violence. But the situation went out of control.

An angry group set a few motorcycles on fire and damaged an MTC bus. Traffic came to a standstill from Spencer Plaza to Dams Road and Thousands Light for half hour after police lathicharged the protesters. Some protesters and policemen were injured in the clash that ensued. By 6 p.m., the protesters slowly dispersed and traffic returned to normalcy in half hour.

A police sub-inspector (PSI) and two constables were injured as groups of two communities clashed while installing a Lord Ganesha idol in Panigate area here late on Monday night. However, the pandal organisers alleged that enough police deployment was not made despite their having expressed fear of such an incident before police.

The incident took place near Ekta Bhavan at around 11 pm on Monday when members of Panigate Yuvak Mandal (PYM) came under stone-pelting from a group of other community while they were unloading the Ganesha idol from a truck near a pandal. This incensed the members of PYM and they retaliated. Soon, mobs of two communities came out on the street and started throwing stones at each other. A group vandalised a few autorickshaws and trucks parked on the street.

The clashes started despite a few policemen accompanying the procession. However, additional personnel of Panigate police rushed to the spot to control the mobs. But they too came under stone pelting. PSI A J Achauhan and two constables were hit by stones and sustained minor injuries.

City police commissioner Satish Sharma and other officials drove to Ekata Bhavan to control the situation. After around half an hour, police managed to disperse the rioting mobs.

“As we chased on group, the other would come out and when we chased the latter, the first would be on street. However, finally we managed to disperse them,” Panigate police inspector A L Chaudhary said on Tuesday, adding one person was arrested in connection with the incident.

Though police denied they had resorted to lathicharge, eye witnesses claimed police had used force to bring the situation under control.

Though members of PYM alleged that police had not made enough security arrangement.

“We had informed police in advance that such an incident was feared but they did not deploy enough policemen. On top of this, street-lights in the area were off,” said a member of PYM.

However, Commissioner Satish Sharma said police were fully prepared for the festival. “We have received additional two companies of SRPF. We have also given additional manpower from headquarters to various police stations. Officials have been asked to be on duty during evening during the festival,” he said.

On the basis of a complaint by ASI Chauhan, Panigate have lodged a case of rioting against mobs.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/three ... /1004739/0

Bharti Jain, TNN | Sep 19, 2012, 03.50AM IST
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NEW DELHI: Taking a leaf from the US, the UK and Saudi Arabia, which are pursuing de-radicalization programmes to disengage indoctrinated elements from violence, India is discussing a similar effort to wean away "identified" radicals from extremist ideology. The initiative proposes to track preachers of radical doctrine as well as "radicalized" terror accused or convicts who have either been acquitted for want of evidence or have already served their prison term.

To be pursued in secrecy, the de-radicalization effort will involve identifying those dispensing ideology of violent extremism and neutralizing the same with moderate interpretations of religion.

Besides, the effort will also be aimed at prisoners with a known history of indoctrination in fundamentalist religious ideology.

According to intelligence sources, many such radicalized prisoners get off with a lighter sentence due to inadequate evidence or limited extent of their involvement in a terror-related offence. Yet, their radical ideology remains intact even upon their release, and the risk of their taking to terror is high.

Under the de-radicalization initiative conceptualized by the security establishment, those preaching radical doctrine would be monitored and their pupils engaged in moderate interpretations of religion to neutralize the effect of such teachings. As for the "radicalized" prisoners, the proposal is to counsel them closer to the release and after they are released with the help of trusted community leaders, NGOs and psychoanalysts.

The case history of the "radicalized" element will be looked into, including the circumstances that could have drawn him to extremist ideology. Emphasis will be laid to bust the religious myths that caused such persons to feel alienated or disempowered, while offering them incentives for rehabilitation and reintegration into society.

The idea is to make them feel valued. At the same time, community leaders and NGOs may try to involve their families in the de-radicalization efforts, so that the radical elements can be monitored on a daily basis and their families feel responsible for keeping them away from exploitation by violent extremist groups.

Though there could be issues over acceptance of the post-release intervention by the state to disengage a person from violence based on extremist religious beliefs, the agencies feel that even a few cases of voluntary counseling may go a long way in tacking radicalization.

The involvement of "moderate" community leaders and academics in counseling the radicalized youth is expected to minimize resistance from the target group.

As radicalization of educated professionals — like the recent arrests of a doctor, engineer, MBA graduate and a journalist in a terror plot foiled by the Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka Police — becomes a point of concern within the security establishment, the government has stepped up efforts at counter-radicalization and de-radicalization on the lines of the programmes being run in the West as well as Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia.

While counter-radicalization involves reaching out to vulnerable sections through an updated educational curriculum and incentives to take away their feeling of alienation, de-radicalization specifically aims at disengagement of the already radicalized elements from violent extremism. Counter-radicalization drive will be coordinated by ministries like HRD and minority affairs, even as MHA covertly pursues the programme.

The UK de-radicalization programme is aimed not only at radicalized elements but also at vulnerable sections. The US has also been pursuing de-radicalization of terror prisoners, and had taken the help of Saudi Arabia in de-radicalizing Guantanamo Bay detainees by having them transferred to rehabilitation facilities in the Persian Gulf nation.

Saudi Arabia started its de-radicalization programme in 2004, focusing on religious re-education and psychological counseling of terror suspects and convicts to educate, monitor and reintegrate radical elements into society.

shyamd wrote:Deradicalization drive in the works
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vera_k wrote:If these citizens feel so strongly about the video, the USA must be asked to shutter the Hyderabad and Chennai consulates until the US puts appropriate legal framework in put in place. I don't see why a law banning the video cannot be passed in the USA like how Rajiv Gandhi passed the Shah Bano law.

vera_k wrote:If these citizens feel so strongly about the video, the USA must be asked to shutter the Hyderabad and Chennai consulates until the US puts appropriate legal framework in put in place. I don't see why a law banning the video cannot be passed in the USA like how Rajiv Gandhi passed the Shah Bano law.

shyamd wrote:Recognition that prison sentences don't work and they need a new strategy to tackle it

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Lie'berals are busy quantifying '% of protesting Muslims' as negligible. What if somebody abused your mother? You would still be negligible
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@Ibnebattuta Shame on us ! If usa could hang saddam I should be allowed to hang the director
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RamaY wrote:This is first rate secular BS.

Why should USA ban a video because some inbred citizens of India are upset about it?

It is a fight between Indian citizens and GoI.