Bharat Rakshak

Zynda wrote:Since women cannot be arrested after dusk & before dawn (& men can...never understood this law), the protesters took advantage of this law and formed a ring around men

hanumadu wrote:What are women police for? They can break the chain while the male police took care of the cowards hiding behind women.

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Bankim Chatterjee wrote Anandamath (which contains Vande Mataram) in 1882. Its setting is Sannyasi Rebellion of 18th C. Yet Vande Mataram even in its truncated form is unacceptable to Muslims in 21st C as it is 'idolatorous'. #Left & #Liberals have never defended Vande Mataram.

V_Raman wrote:Is there a % number in the law when a minority would no longer be a minority? Maybe the real fear for NRC is due to that?

KJo wrote:My ultra RW friend sent me something that a town in PoK had been taken over by the Indian Army. He was jubilant saying soon PoK will be ours.

While I am happy that Modi II has been amazing with lots of earth-e-shattering moves, I hope that PoK is not a near term project. The ongoing projects need to stabilize before we think of next and I think far more important things are to be done, like UCC. PoK will be seen as a full blown invasion and will be condemned, so that can be a Modi III project.

The Indian Army on Saturday rejected social media rumours that it opened the fence at the Line of Control (LoC) and captured a village in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK). The Army said that such speculation were being spread on social media by vested interests to further the agenda of Pakistan. News agency ANI cited Army sources labelling the rumours as part of Pakistan’s misinformation campaign

Karan M wrote:CM, If you don't bring up that "shit" (request you to please tone down the language btw), the magnitude of the problem that exists in our academic system will not be exposed and the majority will be called a genocidal group of fascists. All our colleges are seeing this kind of stuff. Can we really afford all this in our academic institutions? Are they to publish research papers or develop world-class anarchists?

Cooling down is fine, but these issues are not "smallish" nor are they unimportant. People who are on the fence need to understand what's going in our universities and as parents, adults need to stand by the GOI as it makes decisions without pandering to these folks.

The "hot majority" is not influenced by what's on twitter IMHO. Its influenced by what's going on next door, in their neighbourhoods, in their cities, by what families talk to each other.

The stone throwing, the lynching of cops in Gujarat, the bleeding faces of cops in others, the "Hinduon se Azadi" chants - all this is likely already making the rounds on WhatsApp and TikTok. How long can the Govt stop the net or even phone calls?

Political leaders are merely the symptom in some ways. As leaders they do cause issues, but it is the public's attitude which also needs fixing as it is they who decide the agenda.

KJo wrote:My ultra RW friend sent me something that a town in PoK had been taken over by the Indian Army. He was jubilant saying soon PoK will be ours.

While I am happy that Modi II has been amazing with lots of earth-e-shattering moves, I hope that PoK is not a near term project. The ongoing projects need to stabilize before we think of next and I think far more important things are to be done, like UCC. PoK will be seen as a full blown invasion and will be condemned, so that can be a Modi III project.

Cain Marko wrote:

Karan M wrote:CM, If you don't bring up that "shit" (request you to please tone down the language btw), the magnitude of the problem that exists in our academic system will not be exposed and the majority will be called a genocidal group of fascists. All our colleges are seeing this kind of stuff. Can we really afford all this in our academic institutions? Are they to publish research papers or develop world-class anarchists?

Cooling down is fine, but these issues are not "smallish" nor are they unimportant. People who are on the fence need to understand what's going in our universities and as parents, adults need to stand by the GOI as it makes decisions without pandering to these folks.

The "hot majority" is not influenced by what's on twitter IMHO. Its influenced by what's going on next door, in their neighbourhoods, in their cities, by what families talk to each other.

The stone throwing, the lynching of cops in Gujarat, the bleeding faces of cops in others, the "Hinduon se Azadi" chants - all this is likely already making the rounds on WhatsApp and TikTok. How long can the Govt stop the net or even phone calls?

Political leaders are merely the symptom in some ways. As leaders they do cause issues, but it is the public's attitude which also needs fixing as it is they who decide the agenda.

Karan, Apologies for the language, it was not meant to offend. I beg to differ here for the reasons I stated. My take is simple, squeeze the leadership starting at the very top, and the bottom riffraff will fall into line. This means political and intellectual leadership. How is that Ayub woman for eg still running around free after subverting Indian law in kashmir? The other "small" stuff will just cause opening of sores and wounds.

Karan M wrote:

Cain Marko wrote: Karan, Apologies for the language, it was not meant to offend. I beg to differ here for the reasons I stated. My take is simple, squeeze the leadership starting at the very top, and the bottom riffraff will fall into line. This means political and intellectual leadership. How is that Ayub woman for eg still running around free after subverting Indian law in kashmir? The other "small" stuff will just cause opening of sores and wounds.

Thanks for your understanding. I understand where you are coming from, but I am no longer sure it merely a top down thing as you note. For instance, your method should work against the political cadre based mobilization however a lot if the ground violence is being committed by youth who are radicalized as it is, or have no fear of the L&O machinery or think, what they are doing is justified and religiously ordained. Those too, need to be deterred.

Rahul M wrote:Assam NRC was executed by state officials with no involvement of the centre. My friend who oversaw the process in one district was livid at the time at the way it was conducted. The staff were inadequately trained and not vetted for suitability.
State govt staff in general are always less competent and more corrupt than central ones. They are also prone to being influenced by local biases.
If NRC has to work there has to be involvement of central forces along with local officials as a balancing factor. Perhaps they can expand the mandate of the bureau of immigration to oversee this effort.

An Indian MP has taken US Senator Elizabeth Warren to task after she raised concerns about a canceled meeting between New Delhi and a fellow progressive lawmaker, poking fun at her self-declared Native American bona fides.

After Indian Minister of External Affairs Subrahmanyam Jaishankar scrapped a scheduled meeting with US lawmakers – including Pramila Jayapal (D-WA) – during the 2+2 summit in Washington on Friday, Warren fired off a tweet calling “efforts to silence” the congresswoman “deeply troubling.” The tweet prompted a swift mocking response from BJP lawmaker Rajeev Chandrasekhar, arguing that Jayapal is no authority on Kashmir.

“We are sorry you’re troubled. Don't be,” Chandrasekhar said. “We have no objections to Pramila Jayapal mumbling to herself, or even to you, on stuff she knows nothing about.”

It’s just that we don’t want to waste our time listening to her nonsense. Hope you understand being Native [American] Indian and all.

Jaishankar says he called off the meeting due to Jayapal’s “unfair” characterization of the situation in the India-controlled part of Kashmir, which lost its autonomy status in August after New Dehli changed its constitution in a bid to “integrate” the territory. India deployed thousands of troops into the area and clamped down on communications soon after the move, measures which the India-born Jayapal continues to criticize. She is currently sponsoring a resolution in Congress to urge New Delhi to shift its approach in the region.

Officials of the ruling BJP insist the decision was necessary to spur economic growth and cut down on local corruption, but some opposition figures have been vocally opposed to the government’s Kashmir policy.

Sanjay Jha, a national spokestwit for the opposition Congress party, insisted the external affairs minister “embarrassed India” by canceling the meeting, and commended Warren, a 2020 US presidential hopeful, for her response.

Sanjay Jha ✔@JhaSanjay
India’s Foreign Minister has hugely embarrassed India. What a pathetic response by S.Jayshankar!
A sharp rebuke by of all people, Elizabeth Warren who could be the next President of United States.
This government is a joke! It has made India an object of ridicule. #Shame https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1208029566641541120 …

LUCKNOW: A police post was torched in Kanpur on Saturday amid fresh incidents of protests against Citizenship (Amendment) Act in Uttar Pradesh’s several districts including in Rampur and Aligarh as the toll in the violence in the last two days rose to 16.
The latest death was reported from Rampur on Saturday evening, where one person died and several people, including policemen injured as clashes broke out between anti-CAA protesters and police.
Five two-wheelers, including one of a mediaperson and one of the police, and a car were set afire during the violence and five protesters were injured in police lathicharge, officials said.
“Of the five injured, four were referred to Meerut for treatment where one died, while another is in a serious condition. Around a dozen protestors have been detained,” District Magistrate (DM) Aunjaneya Singh told reporters. (AGENCIES)

banrjeer wrote:

Rahul M wrote:Assam NRC was executed by state officials with no involvement of the centre. My friend who oversaw the process in one district was livid at the time at the way it was conducted. The staff were inadequately trained and not vetted for suitability.
State govt staff in general are always less competent and more corrupt than central ones. They are also prone to being influenced by local biases.
If NRC has to work there has to be involvement of central forces along with local officials as a balancing factor. Perhaps they can expand the mandate of the bureau of immigration to oversee this effort.

NRC cannot be done till some better prep and training both for the admin and police. The police force is not trained for dealing with this yet.

darshan wrote:“Kashmiri Hindus Forced To Flee, 90 Amarnath Yatris Killed, But No Stone-Pelting”: Activist Aquib Mir’s Message To Indian Muslims
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/kashmiri- ... an-muslims

“Please don’t make mosque (masjids) political. It’s only for prayer. Congress and other parties are using you only for politics. Every Indian Muslim is safe and no link with CAA,” he tweeted.

Rahul M wrote:Assam NRC was executed by state officials with no involvement of the centre. My friend who oversaw the process in one district was livid at the time at the way it was conducted. The staff were inadequately trained and not vetted for suitability.
State govt staff in general are always less competent and more corrupt than central ones. They are also prone to being influenced by local biases.
If NRC has to work there has to be involvement of central forces along with local officials as a balancing factor. Perhaps they can expand the mandate of the bureau of immigration to oversee this effort.