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Qadian incident deliberate mischief; non-Qadianis role not ruled out
Monday, October, 08 2012 - 19:57

CHANDIGARH: The recent sacrilegious incident attributed to an Ahmadiya youth appears to be rooted in the intra-faith rivalry between the different sects among the Muslims. The sacrilegious post on Facebook allegedly attributed to some youth who claimed himself to be an Ahmadiya appears to have been done deliberately to create animosity between the Ahmadiya sect and Sikhs.

The incident which has caused religious tension in Qadian and Gurdaspur area is being seriously taken by the police and the local administration lest it spiral out of control. Although there has never been any communal tension in Punjab, the recent Facebook post appears to have been deliberately done to create one.

Ahmadiya community is a peace loving community which has not any record of violence or provocation. The community is entangled in a fierce intra-faith clash with the mainstream Muslim community which does not consider them (Ahmadiyas) as the Muslims. They have a history of violent clashes amongst themselves, the Ahmadiyas and the other Muslims.

The police have not been ruling out the possibility that the Facebook post was a deliberate attempt by those opposed to the Ahmadiya sect as this will lead to provocation against them. However, the saner voices from the Sikh community like the Congress and Akali leaders including Tripat Rajinder Singh Bajwa and Sewa Singh Sekhwan have done well by visiting the place and appealing people for peace.

The Ahmadiya community has also condemned the Facebook post. The Ahmadiya leaders have been arguing that it is a deliberate mischief by those opposed to them to create tension and animosity between them and the majority community. The Ahmadiyas who are spread across the world have their headquarters at Qadian in Punjab. Hence the place is as dear to them as to anyone else. It is difficult to accept that anyone amongst them will resort to such a provocative act.

The police also need to go deep into the issue as in all probability the investigations will lead to somewhere else. The culprits need to be identified and punished as they have tried to place with the peace in Punjab and tried to use a minority otherwise known for peaceful co-existence.

Bid to create rift between Sikhs, Ahmadiyas alleged
Yudhvir Rana, TNN | Oct 9, 2012, 05.43AM IST

AMRITSAR: With a view to create rift between Sikhs and Ahmadiya Muslims, a person using fake ID on Facebook has allegedly attempted to denigrate Guru Nanak Dev and other Sikh gurus.

Spokesperson and secretary for general affairs, Sadar Anjuman Ahmadiyya, Mohammad Naseem Khan told TOI on Monday that the Ahmadiya Muslim community had taken serious note of the incriminating issue that surfaced on social website Facebook on October 6.

"A person with a fake ID has tried to besmirch Guru Nanak Dev along with other gurus with an ulterior motive to malign, drag and implicate Ahmadiya Muslim Jamat into a very embarrassing and inconvenient position," he said.

Member, Ahmadiya press committee, Chaudhary Maqbool Ahmad, said that on a Facebook account, the person, using a fake ID, had put photographs of Guru Nanak Dev, other Sikh gurus and founder of Jamat founder Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and had given objectionable remarks.

He apprehended that the whole operation could be Pakistan-based where Ahmadiyas had been declared non-Mulsims and were subjected to persecution.

Khan said that one Tahir Ahmad, with a fake name and fake identity, had tried to denigrate the Sikh gurus and manipulate the names of Ahmadiya Muslims in order to sow seeds of discord between the two communities. Condemning the machination against Ahmadiya sect, Khan said that a delegation of Jamat met senior superintendent of police, Batala, demanding strict action against the culprits ."We want the culprits to be booked for treason against government and nation," said Khan, adding that the cyber criminal should be traced immediately and punished.
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I am willing to bet the FAcebook post came from Pakjabistan or Bradfordistan.
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I don't know what this says about internal security in India. Presumably not good:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 741866.cms

"MUMBAI: Expressing displeasure over a Pakistani national using a red beacon on his private vehicle in the city, the Bombay High Court today directed the police to produce all details of the car and also the offences registered against Sayyed Waseem-ur-Rehman Shah."
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The High Court has to direct the police to do that? What kind of dimwits are in the Police now?
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I think something majorly wrong here.

Tribune has this op-ed by TV Rajeswar, the former IB chief among other things

Japan virus outbreak in North East UP and Odisha

Is it germ warfare? Or just plain negligence?
India’s nutritional problem
Deaths due to Japanese encephalitis preventable
by T.V. Rajeswar

Nearly 50 per cent of Indian children are underweight and more than 70 per cent of women and children have serious nutritional deficiencies, including anaemia, according to a report by UNICEF. India is at the bottom of the world’s maiden nutrition barometer along with countries like Angola, Cameroon, Congo and Yemen. The report draws attention to India’s ill-fed underbelly and exposes the failure of several schemes to address healthcare issues among the poor.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh described the abysmal nutritional record as a national disgrace. One of the primary reasons for the state of affairs is the fact that India’s spending on health is abysmally low. Only 1.67 per cent of the GDP has been earmarked in the 12th Plan. The report warned that India is likely to miss the Millennium Development Goal on child mortality. Nothing illustrates the tragic consequences of such health deficiency more than the large number of deaths of children year after year in Uttar Pradesh due to Japanese encephalitis. It is a vector-borne disease which afflicts a large number of children during the monsoon season in the eastern part of UP.

About 12 districts around Gorakhpur in eastern UP are specifically affected by Japanese encephalitis. The origin of the virus is traced to Japan, but it was eliminated in Japan long ago. This year over 370 children died in the affected areas during the monsoon months. This viral infection has been recorded from 1978 onwards. The annual death record has been well over 200.

The mosquitoes are the carriers of the virus, and they breed in stagnant ponds and are also incubated in the underbellies of pigs. There are a number of piggeries owned by certain traditional pig owners who make a living by rearing them. There are also a large number of stagnant ponds. The largest of them is seen just outside Gorakhpur town.

The virus infection was eliminated in Japan many years ago, systematically getting rid of the pigs by compensating the owners. Likewise, the infection has also been completely eliminated in Thailand and Malaysia. The Government of Uttar Pradesh has not considered any scheme of compensating the pig owners to get rid of the problem.

The only effective way to prevent this virus is to vaccinate children under 10 years of age, and three doses are to be given during a period of 30 days. The total number of children in the 12 districts of Gorakhpur division were said to be around 75 lakhs. Unfortunately, the laboratory at Kasauli is the only source of supply that can produce only 4 lakh vials, The result is that a large number of children were left without vaccination.


When I was the Governor of UP, the figures of deaths due to Japanese encephalitis were brought to my notice. I visited the affected areas in July, 2005, and held a meeting with officers, the local MLA and MLC, both paediatricians. I also visited the district hospital and saw the children under treatment. I was told by the doctors that about 40 per cent of the children who survived were likely to become mentally or physically deficient for life. What was more disconcerting was the fact that during my visit to hospital, I found a large number of pigs roaming in the compound of the hospital itself.

On return to Lucknow, I discussed the matter with the Chief Minister and senior officers and also wrote to the Minister of Health, Government of India. A team of doctors was arranged by the Ministry of Health, Government of India, which also arranged the import of vaccines.

A very large pond exists just outside Gorakhpur town. Apart from the elimination of piggeries in the 12 affected districts of eastern UP and the filling up of shallow ponds in the region, the only way of tackling the annual occurrence of encephalitis was to vaccinate all the children well ahead of the monsoon season. Once the children fall sick, they have to be treated properly and given nutritious food. The consequence of nutritional deficiency in India is fully reflected in the large number of cases of death due to Japanese encephalitis. The fact that this year also there were over 360 deaths due to the same virus infection shows that the preventive steps are not properly being implemented.

In the matter of health, whether it pertains to women and children or other vulnerable sections of society, the Poorvanchal region of UP was lagging behind as pointed out by various surveys. The large number of quacks functioning as doctors throughout the state came to notice in September 2006 when a census was carried out by the Health Department of the state government. While the number of qualified doctors in the state was 12,383 which was indeed a small number for a population of around 17 crore, there were as many as 32,245 quacks. There were no efforts by the government to stop the quacks from functioning possibly because of the fact that they provided at least some minimal health facilities to the people.

According to a report, that the serious Japanese encephalitis affliction in Poorvanchal had compelled the Central government to take note of it. The Central Health Ministry had reportedly requested the Intelligence Bureau (IB) to prepare a report regarding the state of the infection in eastern UP. The IB has officers functioning in all the districts of the country and they are in a position to prepare a comprehensive report by making field enquiries. The IB has reportedly sent several teams to different districts such as Balrampur, Basti, Gonda, Bahraich, Siddhartha Nagar and Gorakhpur. All these districts are in the north-eastern region of UP and adjacent to Nepal. The region is intimately connected with the life and times of Gautama Buddha.

Unusually, a few cases of casualties due to Japan encephalitis have been reported from the coastal region of Odisha. The Director of the Regional Medical Research Centre based at Bhubaneswar has reported that the children afflicted by Japanese encephalitis were mainly from Kendrapara, Jagatsinghpur, Balasore and Jajpur. The total numbers of 117 cases have been reported as victims of Japanese encephalitis from these districts. The Odisha government is yet to take all the steps needed to ensure that this viral infection does not become an annual affair.n

The writer is a former Governor of UP and West Bengal.
I see he makes some points:
- The disease has been successfully eliminated in Japan, Thailand and Malaysia
- Vaccination is one big remedy but the lab is incapable of producing enough doses
- Rural piggeries harbor the virus and village tnaks are mosquito breeding grounds
- Monsoon rains aggravate the spread due to mosquito problem
- The disease has major impacts on the survivors
- I dont get the thing about nutrition deficiency. How does that aggravate the infection?
-GOI is worried enough to task IB to look into the disease spread!
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I see he makes some points:
- The disease has been successfully eliminated in Japan, Thailand and Malaysia
- Vaccination is one big remedy but the lab is incapable of producing enough doses
- Rural piggeries harbor the virus and village tnaks are mosquito breeding grounds
- Monsoon rains aggravate the spread due to mosquito problem
- The disease has major impacts on the survivors
- I dont get the thing about nutrition deficiency. How does that aggravate the infection?
-GOI is worried enough to task IB to look into the disease spread!
JE has been eliminated priamrily by urbanisation and vaccination in east asian countries-- rather contained is the better term. In endemic areas like India older children and adults are infected in childhood hence immune to repeat attacks. Hence young children are vulnerable to JE. They are also malnourished as it affects rural areas mainly.Nutrition helps build good defence or immunity in general.Not all JE affected persons have the symtoms. A few of them develop the deadly disease with higher morbidity and mortality. Treatment mainly supportive. prevention is by elimination of stagnant water bodies/piggeries etc and vaccination. however vaccination at present is expensive. But saving children is more than worry about expense.
Dont know why we dont have adequate vaccines for JE.
period usually July- december is the period in North india-- monsoon rains -- cropping cycle starts -- growth of mosquitoes-- spread of virus.

Bit odd that IB is looking into the matter. this should be the domain of health ministry etc.
IB has other work like going after oppostion parties conduct surveys for ruling parties etc. :twisted:
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Something is wrong. That is why IB got tasked away fro their ususal tasks.
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krisna wrote:
I see he makes some points:
- The disease has been successfully eliminated in Japan, Thailand and Malaysia
- Vaccination is one big remedy but the lab is incapable of producing enough doses
- Rural piggeries harbor the virus and village tnaks are mosquito breeding grounds
- Monsoon rains aggravate the spread due to mosquito problem
- The disease has major impacts on the survivors
- I dont get the thing about nutrition deficiency. How does that aggravate the infection?
-GOI is worried enough to task IB to look into the disease spread!
JE has been eliminated priamrily by urbanisation and vaccination in east asian countries-- rather contained is the better term. In endemic areas like India older children and adults are infected in childhood hence immune to repeat attacks. Hence young children are vulnerable to JE. They are also malnourished as it affects rural areas mainly.Nutrition helps build good defence or immunity in general.Not all JE affected persons have the symtoms. A few of them develop the deadly disease with higher morbidity and mortality. Treatment mainly supportive. prevention is by elimination of stagnant water bodies/piggeries etc and vaccination. however vaccination at present is expensive. But saving children is more than worry about expense.
Dont know why we dont have adequate vaccines for JE.
period usually July- december is the period in North india-- monsoon rains -- cropping cycle starts -- growth of mosquitoes-- spread of virus.

Bit odd that IB is looking into the matter. this should be the domain of health ministry etc.
IB has other work like going after oppostion parties conduct surveys for ruling parties etc. :twisted:
JE is not that common in Desh that's for sure...even all that India is not developed therefore...kind of arguments are waste IMHO. IB might have been involved to investigate if these diseases are coming from pig meat, given that this comes under National Security,I am not surprised that a section of IB is taking interest in it. Other concerns and/or paranoia are just that, don't look too much into it.
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ramana wrote:Something is wrong. That is why IB got tasked away fro their ususal tasks.
I think it might have been an inadvertant or even cheeky slip by the author himself as to the source of his info. My instincts are to look in to that angle.
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JE is not that common in Desh that's for sure...even all that India is not developed therefore...kind of arguments are waste IMHO.
JE occurs predominantly in agricultural countries where rice cultivation is a major one. Pig rearing is another one.
south southeas asia qualify.
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krisna wrote:
JE is not that common in Desh that's for sure...even all that India is not developed therefore...kind of arguments are waste IMHO.
JE occurs predominantly in agricultural countries where rice cultivation is a major one. Pig rearing is another one.
south southeas asia qualify.
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Kashmir is not integral part of India?

Just kidding
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That map on JE is crap, Kashmir and AP out of India, TFTA Pakjab is not an agricultural area not suspetable to JE.

Its more a political MAP on TFTA ness than anything else
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Military Channel tomorrow wed has one hour Black OP on Mumbai Siege featuring Black Cat Commandos. Its @ 7pm Pacific time.
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combining Terror Attacks & Scams under UPA rule

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Aditya_V wrote:That map on JE is crap, Kashmir and AP out of India, TFTA Pakjab is not an agricultural area not suspetable to JE.

Its more a political MAP on TFTA ness than anything else
OT here-
J&K is shown as is normal for 'non Indian' website. J&K does not have JE due to no rice cultivation or pigerries there. Please look carefully at the white lines. Also AP is present.

JE occurs in areas of rice cultivation and piggeries.
check this intercative FAOwebsite
arap muslim countries have virtually no JE because of pigs issue with islam. Of course BD TSP are by default sdres partitoned due to religion. still have JE and have rice areas. pigs are present. :mrgreen:

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Te whole episode smells of a political hatchet job. BTB what project were these ISRO gentlemen working on, was it done t torpedo that project for Desh?
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TOI Ticker,

3 IM Men arrested in Delhi
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^^^

Time for dynastic butt hole licking sewer scum to come out of woodwork, serve them biriyanis and release books that blame the whole thing on Sangh parivar...
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A lot of these guys are politically protected by a variety of parties. state police aren't good at coordinating with central agencies so its usually Delhi Police who end up picking up the work and resolving crimes as they coordinate the best.
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Suppiah wrote:^^^

Time for dynastic butt hole licking sewer scum to come out of woodwork, serve them biriyanis and release books that blame the whole thing on Sangh parivar...
The joys of secularism. :roll:
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Shrinivasan wrote:
abhishek_sharma wrote:The Kerala police officers who ‘framed’ ISRO scientists — and got away

Shortly after being exonerated by a Kerala court in the 1994 ISRO spy case, scientist D Sasikumaran had sought action against the three police officials who had allegedly framed him and others, including his ISRO colleague Nambi Narayanan.

“I had approached the chief secretary and the DGP. Unfortunately, our system does not have the conviction to punish the guilty,” Sasikumaran told The Indian Express. “No probe is being held into why and how they framed the scientists.” The government last year ruled out action against the three police officers.

While Narayanan has been fighting for justice all through, Sasikumaran had so far been silent in public. Now an engineering consultant in Thiruvananthapuram, Sasikumaran said the case ruined the two scientists and damaged ISRO’s reputation. “I can’t explain the trauma my family went through. Even for a murder case, it is imperative to prove that a person lived. There was no crime, but we were targeted as criminals. We have a ludicrous system.”

CASE & CLOSURE

The police had made out a case that Narayanan and Sasikumaran had passed on secret documents to other countries, especially Pakistan. They accused Chandrasekhar of Russia’s space agency, Bangalore contractor S K Sharma, and inspector general Raman Srivastava of passing on secrets of the Aeronautical Defence Establishment, Bangalore. They alleged that Chandrasekhar, Sasikumaran and two women from the Maldives, Mariyam Rasheeda and Fauzia Hassan, had met secretly to exchange papers and money.

In 1996, the CBI submitted its closure report in the chief judicial magistrate’s court in Kochi, concluding that the allegations of espionage were unproved and false. The court agreed and all six accused were discharged.

The CBI pointed out lapses by Kerala police officers Siby Mathews, K K Joshwa and S Vijayan, who probed the case. In a report to the Kerala government, it called for “necessary action as deemed fit”. In June last year, the home secretary issued an order saying it was not proper or legal to take action against the officials after 15 years. The government decided no action need be taken.

Congress leader K Muraleedharan has now urged Chief Minister Oommen Chandy to review the decision. Muraleedharan’s father, the late K Karunakaran, had been forced to quit as chief minister in 1995 during a campaign mounted by a section of the press and rivals within the Congress.

Muraleedharan wrote to Chandy, “Exonerating those who worked against the Congress government led by Karunakaran was shocking... By forging false cases, the police officials committed treason.” He plans to place the demand before the party central leadership.

The CBI had also submitted a report to the Union Home Ministry about the role of some Intelligence Bureau officials. Of the three police oficers, Mathew was serving as DGP (fire forces and rescue) when he opted for VRS in 2011, with a year left in service. The LDF government then made him state chief information commissioner.

Joshwa retired as an SP early this year. S Vijayan retired last year, also as an SP. He was with the National Investigating Agency for a brief period. This is what the CBI report said about the three:


Siby Mathew
DIG who headed the special investigation team

The CBI report said Mathew had indiscriminately ordered the arrest of the scientists and others without conducting a thorough interrogation or adequately verifying their disclosures. It said Mathew and his team had not recovered any evidence from the ISRO or the money allegedly paid to the accused by their foreign contacts. “It is unfortunate that he allowed the doubts and suspicions in the mass media and the public mind to linger on without conducting proper verification,” the report said.

When he handed over the case to the CBI, Mathew suggested that Narayanan’s office and house be searched; that investments made by the accused with a person in Kochi be verified; that “the brigadier” also known as “Coatwala” be identified; and that the nature of documents allegedly secreted out be established. The CBI blamed him for having failed to probe these aspects at his own level during the 20 days for which he had investigated the case.

Sasikumaran’s house was searched seven days after his arrest, the CBI noted. Besides, Mathew had not updated the media about his probe; the CBI report said he “deliberately and intentionally” allowed rumours to circulate, causing embarrassment to IG Srivastava. Srivastava’s name had widely been discussed in the media as the possible “brigadier”. When Congress leaders led by A K Antony and Chandy demanded Karunakaran’s resignation as chief minister, it was mainly on the allegation that he was protecting Srivastava.

An SP in Mathew’s team recorded that squadron leader K L Bhasin was “the brigadier” who had accompanied Maldivians Rasheeda and Hassan to Army Club in Bangalore. This should have ruled out Srivastava as that person. Despite the SP having fixed the identity of the brigadier, Mathew called for further investigation into this aspect when he handed over the case.

In his statement to the CBI under section 161 of the CrPC, Mathew said a photograph of Bhasin had been shown to Hassan who identified him as the person with whom she and Rasheeda had gone to the club in Bangalore. However, this fact was not recorded in his probe.

Narayanan, in a petition to the National Human Rights Commission, alleged that false news had been leaked to the press primarily by Mathew. “While many newspapers quoted Mathew as the source of information, Time magazine, in its issue dated December 26, 1994, quoted Mathew,” he said.

A year after the court accepted the CBI report, Mathew claimed the police had collected sufficient evidence to chargesheet the accused and the CBI was entrusted the case for conducting investigations all over India and abroad, and because of the sensitive nature of the issues involved. In an explanation to the chief secretary, Mathew said the CBI’s allegations were the result of bias.


S Vijayan

Circle inspector, special branch (intelligence)

Rasheeda’s visa was about to expire. To seek an extension, she went along with Fauziya Hassan to Vijayan on October 13, 1994. Vijayan reportedly advised Rasheeda to get an air ticket home, and she bought one for October 17. When she approached him again, Vijayan reportedly seized the ticket and questioned the women. “In fact she (Rasheeda) was chased by police party led by Vijayan at least from the middle of October, obstructing her from leaving India,” reads the judgment of the chief judicial magistrate’s court in Kochi.

In the meantime, the IB informed the police it had no evidence to suspect Rasheeda of any offence. But since her return had been prevented, Rasheeda ended up overstaying in India without a visa. On October 20, Vijayan lodged a complaint with the local police and registered an offence under section 7 of the Foreigners Order read with section 14 of the Foreigners Act. The CBI report said the seizure of the ticket was not shown even after registration of the case, and noted that Vijayan had obstructed Rasheeda’s return to the Maldives.

A court entrusted Vijayan with the custody of Rasheeda from November 3 to 14, but he surrendered her custody to IB officials. The CBI said this was in contravention of the court order and he was liable for dereliction and abrogation of legal duties.

The CBI report said Rasheeda told Vijayan about her contacts with Sasikumaran and with the Russian agency’s Chandrasekhar, but the inspector did not question them to bring out the truth. It said Vijayan failed also to put on record his deduction that the Maldivian women had come for spy work, and that he did not collect information about any particular kind of espionage. He lodged a report with the local police saying the women had committed crimes prejudicial to the sovereignty and integrity of the country.

The only reason for alleging spy activity was that Rasheeda had contacted Sasikumaran and made a lot of entries in her diary. Had the calls been verified and the diary entries translated from her language, it could have confirmed that the women had little to do with espionage, the CBI report said.

About the name of IG Srivastava being dragged in, the CBI noted that Vijayan had shown Srivastava’s photo to Rasheeda but did not put it on record. It said there was no rationale for showing the photo only to Rasheeda.


K K Joshwa
DSP, crime branch, 1994

Joshwa was a member of the special team headed by DIG Mathew. He recorded that the Maldivian women came to India to collect information for some foreign agents, contacted Sasikumaran and Chandrasekhar and collected valuable information for other countries. He did not, however, record the women’s statements, the CBI report said. He did not mention what valuable information was passed on to foreign countries and did not take steps to recover any documents or search the premises of Sasikumaran and Chandrasekhar, it said.

The accused had alleged that they were mentally and physically tortured in police custody. The CBI noted that Narayanan and Chandrasekhar had been given medical treatment during police custody but Joshwa suppressed this from the case diaries and records. Also, searches in the houses of the accused to recover incriminating documents were delayed. Though Narayanan was arrested on November 30, 1994, his house was not searched until the case was handed over to the CBI on December 4, 1994.

The IB officials
Though IB officials took custody of the accused for questioning, their revelations were not communicated to the state police. Rasheeda, Chandrasekhar and Narayanan were reportedly tortured by IB officials. After questioning Narayanan and S K Sharma, the IB did not prepare interrogation reports “as they did not toe the line suggested by the IB”, says the CBI report.

The interrogation reports for the other four accused were unsigned and undated, due to which the identity of the IB officials concerned could not be ascertained. The interrogation of three of the accused was videographed and produced in the High Court, but neither joint director Mathew John nor deputy director R B Sreekumar could identify the officer who videographed the questioning.

The IB officials did not verify the statements of the accused, which the CBI said could have cleared the air and saved the reputation of the scientists. The IB did not share with the Kerala police the basis of their allegations against IG Srivastava.

The CBI found the IB’s interrogation reports incoherent and full of contradictions. The reports did not give the exact nature of the documents allegedly secreted out; they rather stated they were drawings/documents of Viking and cryogenic engines. The interrogation report for Sasikumaran said it was Narayanan who had taken out documents from ISRO installations, but IB officials informed Kerala police that nothing was likely to be recovered from the premises of the accused.

The CBI said joint director John reported to the IB director that the disclosures made by the accused were a mixture of truth, half-truth and untruth, which, according to CBI, showed that even senior officials suspected the allegations.

The CBI said the IB men acted unprofessionally and were privy to the arrest of innocent persons. It said John and Sreekumar had failed in their duty to conduct the probe in an objective and fair manner
Te whole episode smells of a political hatchet job. BTB what project were these ISRO gentlemen working on, was it done t torpedo that project for Desh?
The most important one - Cryo. It was a CIA job
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Cosmo_R wrote:I don't know what this says about internal security in India. Presumably not good:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 741866.cms

"MUMBAI: Expressing displeasure over a Pakistani national using a red beacon on his private vehicle in the city, the Bombay High Court today directed the police to produce all details of the car and also the offences registered against Sayyed Waseem-ur-Rehman Shah."
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The number plate on the car purports that Shah is part of the ‘Govt of India Add Inst’, located at Ekta Bhavan behind the Prime Minister’s office in South Block, New Delhi.
:( :(

pakistani moves around with help from congress
On Sunday, MiD DAY had exposed how Shah had been caught on camera fraternising with Home Minister RR Patil, even though he had been informed that Shah was causing a law and order problem in the area (‘Home Minister met deported Pakistani national’, October 7).
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Recall This Patil also had a prime time role in 26/11 attacks.
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[quote="Sushupti"]combining Terror Attacks & Scams under UPA rule

Nice one Sushupti. If possible, can you also expand the table to include "Suspects/Culprits"? It will be a nice rogue's gallery. It will also throw some light on the Saffron Terror, Green Terror equal equal
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Suppiah wrote:^^^

Time for dynastic butt hole licking sewer scum to come out of woodwork, serve them biriyanis and release books that blame the whole thing on Sangh parivar...

on cue....

Several holes in Police Investigation

Despite the extensive briefing the headline is to blame the Police!

HT must be anti-establishment or full of SLIME.
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Virupaksha wrote:It means that the "street" or the mango local of that area is completely against that cooperation and the elites are using these cooperation as a back up
Perhaps yes. But is'nt it known in the intelligence agencies that there are no fixed friends or enemies in this business? If we are expecting the entire Arab community to turn turtle and start openly supporting us each and every time, I guess we are expecting too much at the moment. Rather than hoping for such a thing to happen, better to go for a tactical alliances with whom-so-ever and what ever clout we have on them and get the business going.
abhishek_sharma wrote:The Kerala police officers who ‘framed’ ISRO scientists — and got away
Both Siby Mathews and KK. Joshua had done an excellent job in a few other cases. Siby Mathews took VRS last year and now I guess is working as the head of the Chief Information Commissioner. K.K Joshua I guess retired as an SP, but he could not get the "conferred IPS" status. Remember reading about the same in the news papers some where last year. "Smart" Vijayan soon landed up in an administrative posting in the Police Head Quarters when Raman Srivastava was the DGP. How ever I remember reading his statement some two to three years back stating that he can be taken to the courts, but he would still stick to all assertions he had made on his reports. Till now no one has attempted that.

How ever I do feel that in this case the media also sensationalised this to a very high extent with enough politics and sleeze (mainly around the two arrested women) added in. And at the end the true purpose was lost. But one thing I did notice was that there were no charges of corruption against all the three officers. So if some agency like CIA influenced them, we need to see how that influence came in.
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How the Indian Mujahideen raised Rs 45 crore in two years
Money raised through arms smuggling, circulation of fake currency, hawala transactions, extortions and diverting political fund has today made the Indian Mujahideen worth Rs 45 crore, say sources in the police and the Intelligence Bureau.
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richest homegrown terror outfit till date
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money has been parked in certain establishments in India and also in other places such as Sharjah and Saudi Arabia. The money that is parked outside the country is used from time to time during an operation and in many cases transferred through a hawala deal. While this is a common practice, the money is also, at times, parked with trusted members with business enterprises.

Former Chief of the Research and Analysis Wing, C D Sahay, points out that the money is often parked with trusted aides and businessmen. Whether there is parking of funds with political parties, especially the smaller ones, is something the Intelligence Bureau needs to dig further.
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police are finding hard to find out is the money raised through donations. These donations have not only been collected from India, a sizeable sum has also come from other countries as well.
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other groups too have lent money to the organisation
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keep boxes outside mosques in Pakistan and very openly collect money in the name of charity. We are well aware that a major percentage of this goes to the Inter-Services Intelligence, while the rest is used by them for their activities.

Money raised has been the highest during the time of the Haj pilgrimage, Sahay points out. "We have seen how a person like Syed Salahuddin (Hizb-ul-Mujahideen chief) used to frequent the Gulf at the time of Haj and collect money. It was an open secret what the money was being used for," adds Sahay.
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collecting funds under pseudo names.
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is immediately parked with sympathisers who run businesses. This money remains in circulation. When the group is in need of money they approach the businessman, who either hands over the money or carries out a hawala transaction. Investigations into the August Pune blasts found a trail of hawala money, which was transferred by a businessman.
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tracking funds of the IM is nothing short of a nightmare. They operate under all sorts of names and the transactions are never to one specific location. Also, they transfer a small sum to avoid suspicion.
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Once the money is received, a foot soldier collects and delivers it personally.

Indian agencies say that the IM is fashioning itself on the lines of its mother outfit, the Lashkar. It is adopting the same strategy to raise funds. The IM earlier relied on extortions and arms smuggling in a big way, but now has realised that donations are a better and safer way to collect funds.

Although the Indian agencies are aware that the estimated sum raised by the IM is around Rs 45 crore, it does realise that tracking where the money has been parked is one of the most daunting tasks.
OT but in the comments section of the same report, $$-porters on Calcutta Airport pass fake and no one notices?
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U.P. to withdraw cases against blast accused

http://www.sunday-guardian.com/news/up- ... st-accused
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Sushupti wrote:
U.P. to withdraw cases against blast accused

http://www.sunday-guardian.com/news/up- ... st-accused
The STF, which carried out the arrests, had told the court that the accused were arrested from outside the Barabanki railway station on 20 December 2007. As per the seizure report, more than 1 kg of RDX and six detonators were seized from Tariq Qazmi and Khalid Mujahid.
This itself an offence-- RDX is a deadly contraband used only by military in India. No one manufactures it, how come these 2 got it.
definite vote bank politics.
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I have some good news. Finally.
Centre may ban PFI soon
The union government is likely to ban the Popular Front of India (PFI) next week. The decision would be taken on the basis of an intelligence report submitted by the state police on PFI’s activities here, state intelligence sources said.
The report was forwarded by the intelligence wing of Kerala police after the central government sought it from the state home ministry.

The state government had recently informed Kerala high court that PFI was a new face of the banned Islamist group Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) and was engaged in fundamentalist and anti-national activities.
The government also said PFI was responsible for 27 homicides in the state. Cases against it included the Muvattupuzha incident in which the palm of a lecturer at the Newman College was chopped off on July 4, 2010, for alleged blasphemy in the preparation of examination papers.
It was also made clear PFI activity was a threat to national unity and security. The government added that former members of SIMI were current leaders and members of PFI.
It is learnt that PFI has about 80,000 members and sympathisers across the county, a majority of them being in Kerala.
It is also alleged that PFI played a role in the SMS hate campaign that spread across the country after the Assam riots.
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They'll just use another pseudonym and have local meetings as always.
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Social Democratic Party of India (SDPI, political wing of PFI), All India United Democratic Front (AIUDF, Badruddin Ajmal in Assam), All India Majlis-e-Ittehad-ul Muslimeen (AIMIM, Owaisi and his Razakar gang), Peoples Democratic Party (PDP, Abdul Nazer Madani ) and Welfare Party of India (WPI).
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Dilbu wrote:I have some good news. Finally.
Centre may ban PFI soon
The union government is likely to ban the Popular Front of India (PFI) next week. The decision would be taken on the basis of an intelligence report submitted by the state police on PFI’s activities here, state intelligence sources said.
The report was forwarded by the intelligence wing of Kerala police after the central government sought it from the state home ministry.

The state government had recently informed Kerala high court that PFI was a new face of the banned Islamist group Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) and was engaged in fundamentalist and anti-national activities.
The government also said PFI was responsible for 27 homicides in the state. Cases against it included the Muvattupuzha incident in which the palm of a lecturer at the Newman College was chopped off on July 4, 2010, for alleged blasphemy in the preparation of examination papers.
It was also made clear PFI activity was a threat to national unity and security. The government added that former members of SIMI were current leaders and members of PFI.
It is learnt that PFI has about 80,000 members and sympathisers across the county, a majority of them being in Kerala.
It is also alleged that PFI played a role in the SMS hate campaign that spread across the country after the Assam riots.
Nothing to rejoice about saar. The centre has given them enough notice to send the leadership underground and re-group under another name. The leadership will find their way to Bakistan and Super duper GCCistan while, the intelligence community, will be left scratching their gotay because High Command will tell them to lay off because we will become a shopper power soon courtesy wahabism
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We have come long ways from the late 1990s when terror was exported and the seeds were dispersed all over India, now it's mostly home grown with fertilizer coming from TSP.
The Afghan model of self sustaining with local drug funds and BCCI like hawala clearing houses have been fine tuned from original CIA manuals and are being implemented.
So why are we so upset about Robert raja calling India A BANANA-republic, he might for a ( small) change be speaking truth accidentally or intentionally. We have to give credence to his observation as after all he close to the puppet master(of topi wallahs congregation) no?
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Latest on the IM terror track is that India have identified 30 individuals in KSA that are wanted. But insufficient evidence has been provided so far that ties them to attacks. Saudis have arrested another important operative Fayaz Kagazi - we are to expect his extradition soon. Saudis are continuing their cooperation, allowing India to question suspects etc intel sharing

On terror funds/illegal bank transactions - major mess and Kerala is the hub. Both India and KSA have a joint team tracking the funds already. Mess has to be cleaned up from Kerala and that is proving a major problem at the moment. Worrisome. From their side they haven't done much to shut the charities down - efforts are underway here.
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shyamd wrote: On terror funds/illegal bank transactions - major mess and Kerala is the hub. Both India and KSA have a joint team tracking the funds already. Mess has to be cleaned up from Kerala and that is proving a major problem at the moment. Worrisome. From their side they haven't done much to shut the charities down - efforts are underway here.
This is the key point. Our (sic) secular politics are the main problem. When India cleans up its mess, it wouldn't have to depend upon two-faced states like KSA. I wouldn't feel bad if KSA doesn't close their charities.

The (sic) secular polity and governance model has to change to have a permanent solution.
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CBI, NIA take a cue from FBI, give themselves special jackets
A nominal image makeover or a much-needed exercise to give India’s investigative agencies a unique image? The verdict may be out but both the CBI and NIA are clear that they are going to stick with the jackets embossed with their names that they have taken to flaunting during searches or investigations.

The CBI’s jacket is blue and white, a first such dress code for the agency whose origins can be traced back to before Independence. Unlike police forces in the country, its officers were usually seen in plainclothes.

The new jackets first made an appearance a year ago as the CBI felt the need to “distinguish” itself from other investigating agencies. An exercise is now on to improve their design and quality, and the inspiration is the US’s distinctive FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation) jacket.

According to CBI officials, jackets for the agency were first designed in 2011 by the Mumbai branch of the agency and no expert assistance from any designer was sought.

Later, the training department of the CBI at its Ghaziabad academy took over and ordered the jackets in large numbers for the agency’s staff all over the country. These were first used by CBI teams during raids related to the National Rural Health Mission scam in February this year.

“One CBI jacket costs around Rs 1,200 and it is being provided to all the investigating officers. Unlike police uniforms, the jacket does not differentiate between ranks and designation. Plainclothes led to anonymity whenever a team went for a raid, with many not taking our orders seriously. This jacket gives us a professional edge,” said a CBI officer.
The National Investigation Agency, set up after the Mumbai 26/11 attack, also takes its inspiration from FBI jackets. Its investigating officers have clear instructions to carry their jackets identifying themselves as NIA officials while visiting any spot or carrying out raids. During the 2011 Delhi High Court blast, these were a common sight.

However, the naysayers question the rationale for the jackets. Many officers both in the CBI and NIA feel that these serve little purpose and actually give away the identity of sleuths carrying out discreet work, inviting them unwanted attention and “posing a danger to their lives”. “We need to protect the identity of those who gather intelligence and those who act on it,” said an NIA official.
Even if not doing anything useful since its inception, NIA and CBI are more concerned about their image
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The project was started in 2004 and they have no completed even one of the storage depo.Only God knows how much time they are gonna take to complete this strategic project.

Delays of the strategic kind

http://pragmatic.nationalinterest.in/page/2/
The project was started in 2004. Three underground strategic crude oil reserves, to hold reserves equivalent to 14 days of India’s oil consumption, were to come up at Visakhapatnam (1.33 mmt – originally 1 mmt), Mangalore (1.5 mmt) and Padur (2.5 mmt). The scheduled date of completion of this project was four years. Double the time has already elapsed and not even one of the reserves has been completed. As per this report in the Hindustan Times, the latest projected dates of completion are the facility at Visakhapatnam is likely to be completed by March 2013, followed by Mangalore in end 2013 and Padur in the middle of 2014.

The total cost of this project in 2004 was around Rs 1,650 crore. Now, it has already escalated to Rs 23,000 crore. This excludes the cost of purchasing 5.33 mmt of crude oil at current prices, which are three times higher than those in 2004.

Missed deadlines, cost overruns on a ‘strategic’ project. And no one seems to care. Perhaps that is why the government is already formulating another plan for constructing additional strategic crude oil storage facilities to store 12.5 mmt of crude oil. It is estimated to cost Rs 55,000 crore.

Each of these new locations will have a crude oil storage capacity of 2.5 mt and will come up at Bikaner in Rajasthan, Chandikhol in Odisha, Rajkot in Gujarat and at Padur in Karnataka.

While all the earlier three strategic crude oil storages would be in underground rock caverns, the four new such facilities have been proposed as a mix of rock caverns, salt caverns and underground concrete tanks.

Even if these additional reserves are miraculously constructed in a short time, India would then have a total of about 55 days of crude oil reserves. Even then, India would be well short of the world standards – oil importing member-countries of International Energy Agency (IEA) are committed to hold oil stocks equivalent to 90 days of net oil imports.


These plans may sound worthless but planning is still worth it. Didn’t Dwight D. Eisenhower say it best: “In preparing for battle I have always found that plans are useless, but planning is indispensable.”
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