Internal Security Watch

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 20 Oct 2008 19:35

150 detonators, 150 tiffin bombs seized from Bihar
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/st ... 0080069469
Monday, October 20, 2008

Gaya - In a major arms haul the police on Monday seized 150 electronic detonators, 150 tiffin bombs and one timer bomb from a village here in Bihar.

Superintendent of Police R Malar Vizzi told reporters that the police team raided the area on a tip off and found the detonators, tiffin bombs and timer bomb from a water tank in the Chhapi village.

Anti-Bomb Disposal Squad of Bihar Military Police (BMP) 3 of BodhGaya has been sent to spot.

The chemical composition of the tiffin bomb could only be known once the report comes, said Vizzi.

No person has been arrested so far, the police said.

sum · Post by **sum** » 21 Oct 2008 09:24

Link

Kodagu police deny arrest rumours

Staff Correspondent

Madikeri: Rumours that a person from Kushalnagar in Somwarpet taluk was arrested on Sunday night for suspected links with terrorists were refuted by the Kodagu police on Monday. No such incident had come to their notice, they said.

A section of the local media reported that a man had been arrested in Kushalnagar by a police team from Mangalore and taken to Mangalore for investigation relating to the recent bomb blasts.

According to a reliable source, the arrested person is Abbas, who sells fish in Kushalnagar. He is a resident of Dandinapete in Kushalnagar town.

The police found his cellphone number on the cellphones of two suspected terrorists arrested in Koppa recently, the source disclosed. The man is also stated to be a worker of Karnataka Forum for Dignity (KFD).

“Officially we have no knowledge,” Inspector-General of Police (Southern Range), Jeevan Kumar Gaonkar, said when contacted on the telephone.

Mr. Gaonkar was here to inspect the Sunticoppa police station. Police could always verify things in a routine manner, but no one could be branded as a terrorist all of a sudden, he said.

Kodagu Superintendent of Police T.R. Suresh, also said that no one had contacted him on the issue.

The police seem to have understood that due to the number of OWGs around, better not to publicise their actions!!!!

This KFD org has to be investigated...all the ghettos(of a "particular community") in B'luru have posters of KFD with some fishy messages.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 21 Oct 2008 10:22

sum wrote:“Officially we have no knowledge,” Inspector-General of Police (Southern Range), Jeevan Kumar Gaonkar, said when contacted on the telephone.

The bolded part takes the cake !

What does the Insp. Gen saheb mean? That "unofficially" he knows that the fellow has been picked up and now is doing a break-dance in the police lockup?

sum · Post by **sum** » 21 Oct 2008 21:16

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Blast rocks Manipur: 13 killed, 30 hurt
K Anurag in Guwahati

Thirteen persons were killed and about 30 others injured when terrorists triggered a powerful explosion at Khumathong in Imphal, the capital of Manipur, at around 7.25 pm on Tuesday.

A security source informed that the bomb was planted in a moped in the area that is close to a barrack of Manipur State Police Commandos and a camp of Assam Rifles, both of which are engaged in counter-insurgency operation in the state.

The injured were rushed to Regional Institute Medical Sciences in Imphal.

A high alert was sounded in the city immediately after the explosion even as senior security officials rushed to the spot. The identity of the militant group involved in the blast was yet to be ascertained.

Imphal seems to be in the cross hairs suddenly!!!!

Manu · Post by **Manu** » 22 Oct 2008 03:47

This may sound very cynical, but the only way to get the Union Govt. attention is for the bomb blast to happen in my hometown, Delhi.

Imphal is "to far away" for them to care. 13 dead and it is not even a headline in Indian Newspapers.

When the next Bomb explodes, and we all know it will, let us hope it is in Delhi or no will care. At least there will be a pretense to care if it is in the Capital.

Such is the state of Political Impotence in the Country.

AjayKK · Post by **AjayKK** » 22 Oct 2008 12:57

It is vote-bank politics, UPA not serious about terrorism—Modi

* NIC Reduced To Hindu-Bashing

Gujarat Chief Minister Shri Narendra Modi raised concern over the UPA government for willfully avoiding the use of the word “terrorism” in agenda items in the meeting of National Integration Council on October 13, 2008.

" It doesn’t want to mention terrorism and doesn’t know the difference between terrorism and extremism. They are encouraging vote-bank politics. " While speaking at the NIC meeting chaired by the Prime Minister, Gujarat CM Shri Narendra Modi said that he was shocked to find that the issue of terrorism was not mentioned in the agenda.

He said that the rise of terrorism with educated youth involving in terrorists attack does not augur well for communal harmony. National consensus is required to isolate such people, groups and the so-called intellectuals supporting these elements in the name of protection of human rights. Deterrent punishment is necessary to keep the youth away from such indoctrination.

He emphasised the need to strengthen the hands of security agencies and police force. He said extraordinary challenges need extraordinary responses. It is most unfortunate that the nation not only lacks determination to strictly deal with terrorism, but also does not have any clear policy and programme to prevent our youth from falling into the trap of indoctrination and join the terrorism outfits.

Highlighting education among minorities, Scheduled Castes and Schedule Tribes, Shri Modi said that Gujarat is determined to improve literacy rate and provide easy access to education for all sections of the society as it does not discriminate its 5.5 crore population. Gujarat has taken up unique initiative in the form of an annual campaign to ensure 100 per cent enrolment in the primary schools irrespective of caste, creed, religion or sex. Through the massive drive for enrolment in the primary school and “Kanya Kelvani” campaigns we have achieved almost 100 per cent enrolment. The drop-out rate which was over 37 per cent in 2001-02 has been reduced to less than 3 per cent.

The overall literacy rate of the state is 69.14 per cent. Literacy rate among Scheduled Castes is 70.50 per cent and among Muslims, it is 73.47 per cent. The Sachar Committee has highlighted that the literacy rate among Muslims in Gujarat at 73.47 per cent is not only higher than state average of 69.14 per cent but also way above the all India literacy rate of Muslims at 59.1 per cent.

http://tinyurl.com/5m5rc6

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 22 Oct 2008 13:23

TV media reports say that "another" NRI arriving at Indira Gandhi Airport at the capital has been murdered by Delhi's infamous "taxi-killers".This is truly shocking.I suggest that only police vetted taxi drivers should be allowed into airports like Delhi with proper IDs and that CTVs are installed at all taxi ranks,departure points.A larger number of airport coaches should also be available for passengers as one finds at foreign international airports.Delhi's crime rate is simply scandalous,with the murder and attacks at night of women-there was the rape of a foreign diplomat too,including the recent media staffer.As in the UK,there should be greater CTV surveillance and police squad cars and bikes in the capital,where there are so many bigwigs,foreign diplomats,and expats resident as well.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 22 Oct 2008 17:31

Philip wrote:TV media reports say that "another" NRI arriving at Indira Gandhi Airport at the capital has been murdered by Delhi's infamous "taxi-killers".

The dead person was a Mallu business-man from the "Gelf". He is originally from Mahe (which technically is a part of Pondicherry). He also did not board a Taxi cab from the pre-paid booth in New Delhi Airport. He chose a cab at random.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 23 Oct 2008 04:34

44 NGOs barred from receiving foreign funds

madhu · Post by **madhu** » 23 Oct 2008 18:54

Hindu group behind Malegaon blast: Police

Mumbai, October 22 : The Maharashtra police are said to have cracked the September 29 bomb blasts in Malegaon and Modasa town in neighbouring Gujarat saying these were allegedly carried out by the Hindu Jagran Manch, an Indore-based Hindu extremist group known to have links to the BJP’s student wing, Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP). The key suspects are being questioned, top Maharashtra Police sources have told The Indian Express.

Is someone controlling Indian media? Coz anti hindu news will be projected first in headline and then no news men reports when such news are falsified.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 24 Oct 2008 04:53

"Sardar Patel - 2nd Terrorist of Free India"!!!

The main speaker at the conclave, Abdul Wahab, maintained Muslims have nothing to do with terrorism. “They are equal partners in the country and those who treat them as tennants should check themselves as early as possible.”

Muslim Political Council, Delhi, chief Dr Taslim Rehmani went to the extent of equating Nathuram Godse and Sardar Patel to terrorists. “The first terrorist of independent India was Nathuram Godse, while Sardar Patel was the second,” he reportedly said.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage ... aac611e8b4

vsudhir · Post by **vsudhir** » 24 Oct 2008 05:17

Was debating on whether to put this in the psy-ops thread. And then realized this is a better place for it.

Want to be heard in India? You'd better form a militia

This is precisely the message going out to every disgruntled group out there (and yes, it is the land of a million mutinies) thanks to the sarkari failure to apply the law at the first instance of trouble.

The goondaism of Raj Thackeray now shall find a 100 admiring clones, seems like.

sum · Post by **sum** » 24 Oct 2008 09:29

Not sure where to post this since there is no Islamic thread:

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Law to curb polygamy among Muslims
Thiruvananthapuram, DHNS:

The Kerala High court has called for legislation to set up bodies at the central and regional levels to regulate, control and supervise polygamous marriages and divorces in the Muslim community.

The observation was made by a Division Bench comprising Justices Kurien Joseph and Harun-Ul Rasheed while considering an appeal filed by a Muslim woman whose husband had divorced her and remarried.

The bench pointed out that there was no system or steps in India to supervise or control such marriages and divorces with the result that the “indiscreet conduct of marrying and having more than one wife is continuing without any restriction.’’ The court observed that in Pakistan, the Muslim family law regulated polygamy and provided for an arbitration council. In Muslim countries the husband had to convince the court about the reason for divorce.

Men in India continued to enjoy unrestricted freedom to marry women of their choice and also pronounce talaq as they willed. Most of these marriages were illegal as they were against Quranic injunctions. It called for moral strength, if not religious factor, to eradicate polygamy among Muslims.

Arun_S · Post by **Arun_S** » 24 Oct 2008 12:45

ANTI-MUSLIM REPRISAL TERRORISM?

INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM MONITOR--PAPER NO.460
Thursday, October 23, 2008
B.RAMAN

"Some sections of the Muslim community suspected that this attack ----like the other attacks targeting members of their community--- must have been the responsibility of Hindu extremist elements. There was no basis for their suspicions, but they persist. The only way of removing their suspicions is through a thorough investigation and the definitive identification of all those involved. The many missing linksin the investigation of this strike as well as in the terrorist attack on the Mumbai suburban trains should be a cause for concern. Targeted attacks on innocent Muslims by Al Qaeda and other jihadi organizations is nothing new. Such attacks take place often in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. But, in those countries, the attacks on Muslim civilians are generally due to one of two factors. Either the targeted Muslims belonged to a rival sect (Sunni vs Shia or Deobandi vs Barelvi) or rival organization or were perceived as collaborators of the Government and hence apostates. None of these factors applied in the case of the Muslims----Indians and Pakistanis--- who were traveling by the Samjotha Express. The conventional wisdom was that the Muslims were now being deliberately targeted by the jihadi organizations in orderto provoke them against the Government and the Hindus. I do not subscribe to this wisdom. It is important to keep an open mind while investigating these targeted attacks on Indian Muslims and one should not jump to the conclusion that the LET or the HUJI must have been involved. We owe it to our Muslims, most of whom have kept away from Al Qaeda and other pan-Islamic organizations, to see that these cases of targeted attacks on Muslims are thoroughly investigated instead of coming to a facile conclusion that jihadi organizations must be behind them. "-----My comments on the terrorist strike in the Samjotha Express in my book "Terrorism---Yesterday, Today & Tomorrow"published in June,2008, by the Lancer Publishers of New Delhi (www.lancerpublishers.com )

"While there are grounds for suspecting that the blast of Delhi and those of Agartala might have been carried out by the IM ( Indian Mujahideen) and its associates from the Lashkar-e-Toiba (LET) in Delhi and the Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami (HUJI) of Bangladesh in Agartala,the blasts in Modasa and Malegaon seem to stand apart. Though the Gujarat Police are reported to have detained some members of the Students' Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) during their investigation of the Modasa blast, the Modasa and Malegaon blasts do not carry any unique signature. More evidence will be required before one could analyse as to who might have been responsible. "----From my article ofOctober 2,2008, titled "Mushrooming Terrorism: Now Agartala" at http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers ... r2866.html
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In the last three years, we have had at least seven terrorist strikes in different parts of the country in which the perpetrators seemed to have targeted innocent Muslim civilians. Those seemed to be not indiscriminate attacks on all civilians, but targeted attacks on Muslims.There were two such incidents in Malegaon in Maharashtra and one each in New Delhi, Hyderabad, in the Ajmer Sharif in Rajasthan, in the Samjotha Express to Pakistan and in Modasa in Gujarat.

2. On the basis of the available reports, I had myself stated after five of these strikes---- but not after the Malegaon and Modasa incidents of September 29,2008--- that they seemed to have been carried out by terrorists belonging to jihadi terrorist organisations. I had also referred to instances of jihadi terrorists deliberately targeting innocent Muslims in many countries in pursuit of their agenda.

3. Some months after the Ajmer Sharif incident, a young Muslim officer of the Indian Police Service (IPS) had met me privately and expressed his doubts as to whether Muslims would have been involved in these incidents. He strongly believed that no Muslim however extremist he might be and to whichever jihadi organisation he belonged would have planted a bomb in or near the Ajmer Sharif.

4.I did not feel convinced, but felt somewhat troubled by what he said. I felt that as a senior (though now retired) officer of the IPS, I owed it to him and other young Muslim officers of the IPS to take note of what he said and re-open my mind. It was in pursuance of this that I made the above-mentioned observations in my book.

5. Who carried out the pre-September 29,2008, terrorist strikes, which seemed to have mainly targeted innocent Muslims? Where they the acts of the usual jihadi organisations or are they the precursor to acts of reprisal terrorism against members of the Muslim community by some irrational elements in the Hindu community? These questions, which were already being raised by sections of the public----Muslims as well as non-Muslims--- even before September 29, have re-surfaced following the publication or dissemination by some sections of the mediaof reports claiming that the Anti-Terrorism Cell (ATS) of the Mumbai Police have detained three Hindus in connection with their investigation into the recent Malegon blasts. The ATS itself has neither officially denied nor confirmed these reports.

6. The matter is in the initial stages of the investigation. To instil confidence in our Muslim community, the ATS should see that the investigation against these Hindus and any others associated with them is carried out thoroughly irrespective of their organisational affiliation. Religion is not a mitigating factor in deciding on the culpability of a person suspected of involvement in a criminal act. If they areproved to have participated in the acts of terrorism in Malegain and Modesa, the fact that they are Hindus would not make them any the less criminal or terrorist.

7.Indian criminal laws----the Indian Penal Code, the Indian Evidence Act and the Criminal Procedure Code--- do not talk of the majority or the minorities or even of Indian citizens or foreigners. Their provisions apply to anyone who commits an offence in Indian territory---whether heor she is an Indian national or a foreigner, whatever be his or her religion, language or ethnicity. The arrested persons must be investigated and proceeded against without worrying about their background or organisational affiliation.

8. Do these arrests strengthen the case for a ban on the Bajrang Dal or any other organisation to which they might have belonged? Or dothey at least call for a characterisation of such orgainsations----even if they be of Hindus---as terrorist organisations? To characterise an organisation as a terrorist organisation and to take legal action against it ----and not merely against its members---- two types of evidence are required. Firstly, that its constitution or manifesto advocates the resort to violence amounting to terrorism for achieving its objective.Secondly, that it has been involved in repeated acts of pre-meditated violene which amount to terrorism. One has to wait and see whether such evidence surfaces during the investigation. ( 24-10-08)

(The writer is Additional Secretary (retd), Cabinet Secretariat, Govt. of India,New Delhi, and, presently, Director, Institute For Topical Studies,Chennai. E-mail: [email protected] )

renukb · Post by **renukb** » 24 Oct 2008 17:24

Is nationalism in India a mere illusion?

People who support regionalism should think that if Bhagat Singh would have fought for Punjab alone,Gandhi for Gujarat alone, Tilak for Maharashtra only and so on, then on the world map there would have been no existence of the nation called India.

http://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=145900

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 25 Oct 2008 02:08

Seeman, Ameer arrested on sedition charge

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 25 Oct 2008 03:58

http://www.hindu.com/2008/10/25/stories ... 231000.htm

Curbing dangerous tendencies

It was extremely irresponsible of a political leader like Marumalarchi Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam General Secretary Vaiko to make a speech with barely concealed secessionist overtones and warn the Government of India that its help to protect the territorial integrity of Sri Lanka would jeopardise the unity and integrity of India itself.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 25 Oct 2008 05:58

Revive beat policing, says Hormis

Staff Reporter

Kochi: Revival of the beat system is vital to strengthening security, P.K. Hormis Tharakan, former Research and Analysis Wing (R&AW) chief, has said.

Speaking to The Hindu on the measures to tackle urban terror, he said there was a dire need to revive certain time-tested practices such as beat policing, regular patrol, community policing and neighbourhood watch.

Mr. Tharakan cited an incident to prove his point. “Two policemen on beat duty under Honnali police station limits in Davangere district were instrumental in unearthing a huge terror network.

“They stopped a two-wheeler with two passengers only to realise that inside the side box there were many number plates.

“The sub-inspector seized the vehicle. “On investigation, it was revealed that one of the riders was Raziuddin Nasar, a Pakistan-trained bomb-making expert. They were stealing vehicles for making two-wheeler bombs,” said Mr. Tharakan.

It was that thread that led to revelation that the Students Islamic Movement of India had split and that the hardcore splinter group had met in Wagamon to plan attacks in urban areas.

“Neighbourhood watch is equally important as this is a proven method to curtail crimes against the elderly,” he said.

IB sleuths in Imphal

OUR CORRESPONDENT
Imphal, Oct. 24: Two Intelligence Bureau bomb experts have come from New Delhi to identify the type of bomb exploded by the Kangleipak Communist Party (Military Council-Lanheiba) on October 21 night on the outskirts of Imphal.

A powerful bomb fitted to a moped exploded at the venue of a dice game near the gate of a police commando barracks and transit camp of the Assam Rifles at Minuthong neighbourhood killing 17 people and injuring more than 30.

Though the nature of explosives is yet to be established, police officials in Manipur are not ruling out the possibility of RDX being used given the intensity of the blast.

The moped was shattered and the limbs of the victims strewn around the blast site. A source today said two IB officials arrived here yesterday afternoon.

The sources said the officials visited the blast site and examined pieces of materials collected from the spot.

The director-general of police, Yumnam Joykumar Singh, said it was too early to say what kind of explosives were used. “We will send the collected materials to a forensic laboratory in Calcutta. We will wait till the report comes,” Joykumar Singh said.

Manipur has a forensic science laboratory, but it is not equipped to analyse explosives.

The Assam Rifles today displayed the six weapons seized from five militants killed in an encounter with a combined force of the police and paramilitary forces in the foothills of Heingang.

Talking to reporters, inspector-general (South), Assam Rifles, Maj. Gen. A.K. Choudhary, said the people of Manipur had now turned against the militants and it was the right time for them to come out and hold talks.

sum · Post by **sum** » 25 Oct 2008 10:11

A WKKs lament

Minorities in Karnataka: How terrorists are bred

By Ramakrishna Upadhya
The tales of Fakeer and Reshma show how deep-seated prejudices are wreaking havoc on a community.

Not many people would have heard of either Fakeer Bava or Reshma Betageri, who are ordinary citizens of this great land of Karnataka. Their heart-rending stories illustrate how a callous and insensitive state machinery will continue to breed “terrorists,” probably without realising it.

Fakeer, branded by the police as a suspected terrorist, was taken into custody along with three others by the Mangalore police on October 14. He became a suspect in the eyes of the police because he had leased out his property in Koppal to one Ahmed Bava, another suspect.

Fakeer, who has been working in West Asia for the last 18 years, apparently comes from a respectable family in Mangalore. He had come down to his home town to conduct the marriage of his two brothers. Soon after he came to know that Ahmed Bava had been arrested on October 4 for alleged terror links, a shocked Fakeer went to a high police official, showed him the documents relating to the land deal and told him that he had no other connection with Ahmed Bava. The police officer assured him that it was a routine investigation and he had nothing to fear.

Fakeer told the police that he currently worked in Indonesia, but he was prepared to stay back till the investigation was complete. On October 8, he was again called to the police station and asked whether he knew anything about the other “absconding suspects”. When Fakeer said that he did not know them, he was allowed to go.

Meanwhile, Fakeer conducted the marriage of his brothers and there were no more queries from the police. But, suddenly, on October 14 Fakeer was taken into custody and Inspector General of Police (Western Range) A M Prasad announced two days later that “Fakeer Bava was planning to escape to Indonesia when we caught up with him.”

Now, Fakeer’s family members who are virtually on the run fearing further harassment by the police, have told a newspaper that they had no connection with any terrorists and Fakeer was working with an Indonesia-based NGO that was involved in the rehabilitation of tsunami victims in Aceh. They also maintain that far from being a fundamentalist, Fakeer was a progressive thinker who cared for Muslim women’s rights.

Fakeer’s family asks two pertinent questions: if he were a terrorist, would he have gone to the police offering co-operation? If at all he was involved in Ahmed Bava’s purported anti-national activities, would he have stayed back in India for full 10 days even after Ahmed Bava’s arrest?

Prima facie it appears that the police don’t have a strong case for Fakeer’s detention and it is a clear case of human rights violation. One suspects that after a spate of terrorist violence in the country, the police are under pressure to show “results” and now and then they come up with “disclosures” to show to the world that they are “on the job”.

No political leaders who are shedding crocodile tears for the attack on minorities have come to Fakeer’s rescue so far. After all the mental and physical torture Fakeer’s family must have been going through — if he indeed turns to be innocent — can he or someone close to him be blamed if they actually turn to terrorism at some stage? It is a serious issue to ponder.

Now let’s take the case of Reshma Betageri of Rona town of Gadag district, who committed suicide on October 15. One of the five daughters of tonga-puller Budnesab and daily wage earner Noorjahan, Reshma was a precocious 17-year-old who studied in Kittur Chennamma junior college. Two of her elder sisters are also pursuing graduation.

After marrying off their two eldest daughters without offering much education, Budnesab and Noorjahan worked hard to give good education to the other three and Reshma was particularly bright in studies. It is said that four vagabonds in the village, who had connections with the Sangh Parivar, constantly used to stalk her with innuendos like, “Here goes the terrorist.” Unable to bear the harassment and humiliation, Reshma committed suicide. The police have arrested only one of the goons and the others absconding. The police are going slow in the investigation allegedly because the goons have the protection of the local BJP MLA.

The horrible tales of Fakeer and Reshma go to demonstrate how deep-seated prejudices are wreaking havoc on a community which is already under siege because of the activities of some misguided elements. The state police have arrested a number of Muslim youths in recent months, particularly after terrorist attacks in Bangalore, but shockingly, except vague accusations or deliberate leaks about their “jehadi links” revealed during untested and unreliable “narco-analysis tests,” the authorities have failed to come up with hard evidence against any individuals or groups.

It is a testing time for the BJP government in Karnataka. If it believes in fair play as any government worth its salt should do and also wants to begin a serious process of getting rid of the stigma of being anti-minorities, it should immediately order a review of all the arrests made so far and release the innocents forthwith.

With the eight byelections to the assembly not far away, Chief Minister Yeddyurappa will do well to demonstrably take corrective action against injustices done to the minority community. That way, his government will not only give less scope for the spread of terrorism, but who knows, may even earn the gratitude and votes of a beleaguered community. {Dhamki?}

The headline seems to suggest that terrorists breed among minorities!!!

How do these WKKs come to the conclusion that any muslim arrested is innocent just because his parents feel he is innocent? Also, when you hear that one of the accused in working for a "NGO in Indonesia", all ears should perk up.

Anyways, as if to mock on the above article, a member of a "beleagured community" turns out to be a ISI man who sheltered the arrested Al-Badr terrorists:
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Mysore ISI man still at large
From Sreekantswamy B, DH News Service, Mysore:

No one knew that the man who ran a fancy store at Rajiv Nagar, Mysore, was an active member of the ISI. By the time it came to cops’ notice, he went underground. He has been evading arrest for the last two years.

Khader had helped to find a house for suspected Al-Badr terrorists, Fahad alias Mohammed Koya and Ali Hussain. Before helping Fahad and Ali settle down here, Khader had set up a fancy store, after managing a fruit stall. To give an impression of being a family man, he had brought his two children from Kozhikode, Kerala, to Mysore. Before the police, it was mediapersons had talked to him when he was under tension, just a few yards away from his shop, in the early morning hours of October 27, 2006. A day before, both Fahad and Ali had been caught by police on Vijayanagar Ring Road.

Within a few hours, Khader went missing. As per police records, he is the only accused in the case, and is missing till date.

ISI agent

According to reliable sources, Fahad, during the narco analysis test in Bangalore, had revealed that Khader was an ISI agent on whose instructions they (Fahad and Ali) moved to Mysore. Fahad had revealed that he was directed by the ISI top brass in Pakistan to contact Khader, and that Khader had been their ‘caretaker’ in Mysore.He had also maintained that they had no plans to strike in Mysore.
When contacted by Deccan Herald Police Commissioner Dr S Parashivamurthy exuded confidence that Khader will be apprehended soon.

Im sure that eveil police controlled by satanic BJP is making all this up...

sum · Post by **sum** » 25 Oct 2008 10:13

Some welcome news:
NDF under scanner finally

NDF under scanner
Thiruvananthapuram, DHNS:
The State police on Friday conducted searches in Malappuram, Kannur, Kozhikode and Ernakulam districts following the revelation that the two youths who died in Kashmir in an encounter two weeks ago were Keralites.

Efforts are on to find out more about a youth named Ummer Farooq who was a close friend of Abdul Rahim, one of the youths killed in the encounter. Farooq has been missing for over a month now. Farooq and Rahim were both involved in the torching of a Tamil Nadu transport corporation bus in Kochi two years ago. The torching was in protest over denial of bail to PDP leader Abdul Nasser Madhani who was then lodged in a Coimbatore jail.
It has now come to light that several relatives of Rahim, including his brother-in-law, have been missing for months. Police now acknowledge that many such youths have gone missing from their homes in north Kerala for long. Efforts are on to trace their whereabouts.

The revelations have turned the spotlight on the right-wing Islamic organisation the National Development Front (NDF) to which Rahim and the two others who were arrested belonged to. Several NDF activists in Kannur, Kozhikode and Malappuram have been picked up for questioning in this regard.

The CPM has launched an offensive against the NDF, with party state Secretary Pinarayi Vijayan himself calling for a detailed investigation into its funding sources.

Any reason as to how come the left has suddenly got the b@lls to start cracking on their islamic friends?

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 25 Oct 2008 13:25

sum,
The LDF has no choice other than to investigate these issues. I also feel that the level of news coverage this incident got (i.e Mallu terrorists getting killed in Kashmir - of all places) just forced the LDF govt. into action. Unlike the SIMI training camp at Vagamon, this issue became known all through out India. Now if LDF tries to act smart, they will only be classified as traitors. I feel that it is a good thing for the dead Jehadis to be mallus. Lot of dirty rhetoric which the "secular" parties in Kerala take is now proven as waste.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 25 Oct 2008 19:53

Ex-army officers involved in Malegaon blasts?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 25 Oct 2008 20:38

is the JH7 the name of FBC-1 ? the one with 2xRR Spey engines?

sanjaychoudhry · Post by **sanjaychoudhry** » 25 Oct 2008 20:55

Gerard wrote:Ex-army officers involved in Malegaon blasts?

Ground is being prepared by secularists to ban RSS and affiliated organisations. Some Western intelligence agency seems to be involved in this entire operation, or it is the church hitting back for Kandhamal. Congress has been reduced to a gang of Hindu traitors. This was sooner or later inevitable because of the anti-Hinduism injected in it by Gandhi. The seed that anti-Hindu Gandhi sowed and anti-national Nehru watered has now begun to flower and pose a threat to the security of India as well as of Hindu civilisation. Hindus have to get this into their thick heads that Congress is a party that does not represent Hindu interests but the interests of anti-national forces that are out to make Hindus part with more land. About 50 years from now, Hindus will look back at Gandhi as the biggest disaster to hit them in the last 5000 years.

sum · Post by **sum** » 26 Oct 2008 10:35

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Maoist activity surpasses militancy in J&K, northeast news analysis

K. Srinivas Reddy

HYDERABAD: Union Home Minister Shivraj Patil might want the country to believe that Left-wing extremism is not a big challenge to the internal security of the country, but his Ministry has now ‘unwittingly’ declared statistics which reveal that the Maoist activity had actually surpassed militancy in the north-eastern States and in Jammu and Kashmir in terms of killings of civilians and security forces personnel.
Status paper

The latest status paper on the ‘Internal Security Situation’ discloses that as many as 2,281 civilians and 821 security forces personnel were killed between 2004 and 2008 (up to August 31) due to Maoist activity.

The comparative figures for the same period show that militancy in Jammu and Kashmir resulted in the killing of 1,883 civilians and 789 security forces personnel. The militancy-related fatalities in the north-east were 1,909 civilians and 361 security forces personnel.

It was none other than Prime Minister Manmohan Singh who cautioned the States — in December 2007 at a conclave on internal security — that Maoist insurgency was the single biggest challenge to security.

Just about two months later, Mr. Patil disagreed with Dr. Singh and said the Left-wing extremism did not pose such a danger to internal security.

Answering a question in the “Devil’s Advocate” programme on CNN-IBN, Mr. Patil argued that there was no need to create a fear psychosis among the people about the Maoist insurgency. Playing on words, the Home Minister pointed out: “If one said 10 States were affected, it would mean 30 per cent of the country. If one went by 130 districts affected, it would mean 25 per cent. But if one took into account the number of police stations, it would give a picture of only three per cent.”

And now the Ministry status paper points out that the Maoist violence has become extremely intense in Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand and Orissa.

“Chhattisgarh and Jharkhand accounted for 68.07 per cent of the total incidents and 58.56 per cent of total casualties.”

The Ministry puts it on record that the Maoist activity is present in Andhra Pradesh, Bihar, Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, Maharashtra, Orissa and West Bengal.

However, intelligence officials unofficially admit there is widespread consolidation of Maoists across the country.

sum · Post by **sum** » 26 Oct 2008 13:37

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Man disowns slain son’s body

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Special squad to investigate activities of extremist groups

Asks police not to bring home body

Interrogations on

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MALAPPURAM: The parents of Abdul Raheem, the youth from Chettippadi in Malappuram who was killed in an encounter in Kashmir a few weeks ago, have disowned the body of their son. His father, Koyasantakath Saidu, told the police here on Saturday that the body should not be brought home.

In a statement given to the Superintendent of Police, Mr. Saidu said that the body might be interred in a graveyard attached to any mosque in Kashmir. The police said they would fax the statement to their counterparts in Kashmir.

Mr. Saidu reached the police officer’s office, along with two relatives, in the afternoon but refused to talk to presspersons. He looked disturbed and rushed to his vehicle soon after giving the statement.

“I am abandoning him. We learned from the police that he was killed. The police showed me the photo and I confirmed,” he said tersely to one of the reporters.

Raheem, 28, was the only son among his four children. He had distanced himself from the family after the latter disapproved of his movements and habits.

A diploma holder in electronics, Rahim was a member of the Shikhwa Thwareekath, a body of a handful of youths, whose trail the State police are currently on.
Youth arrested

Kannur Special Correspondent writes:

A youth, Faisal, 24, was held here on Saturday evening following investigations in the wake of the disclosure that Muhammad Fayaz from Maidanappally here was one of the two Malayali militants killed in an encounter in Jammu and Kashmir.

The police said that Faisal, son of Abdurrahiman Anbathode, was held by the Edakkad police after interrogation. He was taken into custody following information that he had been instrumental in sending Fayaz to Hyderabad.

The police said there was solid evidence that both had been there.

The police are questioning a few persons here in connection with the activities of people suspected to have links with terrorist outfits.

Sources said that a special squad constituted to investigate the activities of extremist groups and individuals in the State was questioning a few people to unravel the activities of people having links with militant outfits.

The investigation was centred on Faisal who had ostensibly arranged a job for Fayaz in Bangalore. Fayaz’s parents had disclosed to the police that Faisal had informed them, when they asked him about their son’s whereabouts, that he had gone to Hyderabad for religious education.

The police had already arrested suspected National Development Front worker Abdul Jaleel from Kadachira here for his alleged links with Fayaz.

Wish that other muslims also followed Mr.Saidu instead of harping on how no muslim can ever commit such crimes, Hindus are evil yada yada.....

Times now also reports that the other two mallus killed have also been ID'ed and are from Kannur district. One is a recent convert to islam.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 26 Oct 2008 19:06

Terror techie wants to turn approver: Police

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 26 Oct 2008 20:26

Naxals attack church in Maharashtra

sum · Post by **sum** » 26 Oct 2008 20:42

Gerard wrote:Terror techie wants to turn approver: Police

Wonder what his father, who was interviewed extensively saying that his son is being made a scapegoat because of being a muslim, has to say about this?

sum · Post by **sum** » 27 Oct 2008 14:00

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Patna youth opens fire in Mumbai bus, shot dead

MUMBAI: The violence triggered by the attacks on north Indians in Mumbai, allegedly by MNS activists, turned uglier on Monday morning when a
Patna youth shot dead
In this TV grab taken from a news channel, Rahul Raj points a handgun from the window of a bus in Mumbai. (AFP Photo)
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youth from Bihar was killed by police inside a bus in central Mumbai after he opened indiscriminate fire. ( Watch )

"The man fired at the police in Bail Bazaar area of Kurla and was shot in retaliatory fire," joint commissioner of police (crime), Rakesh Maria said.

According to police sources, the incident occurred around 10.10am near Chowkie No. 3 near Bail Bazaar in Kurla, Central Mumbai, inside BEST's double-decker bus number 332, which was going from Andheri to Kurla.

Sources said the youth, later identified as 27-year-old Rahul Raj from Bihar, tried to take the passengers hostage. They said Rahul was sitting on the first floor of the bus, when one of the two conductors approached him and asked him to buy a ticket.

The youth started shouting slogans: Jai Bihar and Jai Patna. A heated exchange ensued and the conductor asked the driver to stop the bus near the police chowkie.

Sources said the youth started firing from a countrymade weapon soon after police arrived. The man wrote some demands on a paper before he began firing, said witnesses. Police too opened fire and the youth suffered severe bullet injuries. He was taken to Rajawadi Hospital in Ghatkopar, where he was pronounced dead.

A passenger, Manoj Bhagat, was injured in the firing by the youth, police sources said, adding that he has been admitted to Rajawadi Hospital.

Sources said the Rahul’s father, Kundan Pratap Singh, teaches at Arvind Mahila College, Patna. There were conductors on the bus — Shivaji Borde and Machhindra Ugale. A S Khan was the driver.

Expect more people to drift towards MNS with such stupid incidents!!!

Was talking to a senior serving naval officer and he was in admiration of Raj and his cause(in some aspects) since he felt that the Biharis were a unruly,undisciplined lot and someone was needed to do something to discipline them...he said many shared such views in Mumbai!!!

sum · Post by **sum** » 27 Oct 2008 14:04

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Sadhvi Pragya's dad says he worships her photo
27 Oct 2008, 0255 hrs IST, Yagnesh Mehta, TNN
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SURAT: Initially, he had disowned his daughter and said action should be taken against her if she was guilty. But on Sunday, Chandrapal Singh
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C S Thakur prays to a photograph of his daughter, Pragya, in his Surat home. (TOI Photo)
Thakur — father of Malegaon blast accused Pragya — did a volte-face. Not only did he justify his daughter's alleged actions, he said he daily worshipped her photograph, kept in the temple of his house, along with other deities.

"I pray to the truth in her and her sacrifice for protection of the religion. Due to her dedication and sacrifice, she is far ahead of me. I pray that she succeeds in her endeavours," said the father of the sadhvi who was arrested on Friday for her alleged role in the Malegaon blast that had killed six people on September 29. Maintaining that Pragya wasn't against any particular community, the 68-year-old Ayurvedic practitioner said, "But a reply to terrorist attacks was also required."

"What will you do if someone shoots 100 arrows at you? Will you sit idle or respond to them?" Thakur shot back when TOI asked him about allegations against his daughter, a former leader of the ABVP in Madhya Pradesh, who took sanyas in 2006. "If the government doesn't act in time, common people will have to do something about their own safety. The government has no will to stop the bloodshed engineered by terrorists," Thakur said.

Thakur has three other daughters — Upma, Uttama and Pratibha, who are all married and settled in different cities of the country — and son Pushyamitra Singh who lives in Surat. Asked why he shifted to Surat from Madhya Pradesh, Thakur said he wanted a better place to live.

Expect more such instances of people taking the law into their hands to start appearing as a dhimmi "secular" govt dithers in providing safety to its own citizens....

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Alleged NCP men ransack VHP office
26 Oct 2008, 0516 hrs IST, TNN

MUMBAI: Three persons allegedly affiliated to the NCP barged into a Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) office opposite Ashok Stambh, next to the central bus stand, in Nashik around 3 pm on Saturday and ransacked it.

Two boys were sitting in the office during the incident, said sources. The culprits blackened the face of one of the boys and fled after causing considerable damage to the office. Sources said the attack appeared to be related to the arrest of Hindu right-wing activists for their alleged involvement in the Malegaon blast in September.
The police reached the spot after about half-an-hour and registered a case of rioting. Five persons, including one Ranjan Thackeray, an NCP activist, were arrested.

Around 4 pm, activists of the Shiv Sena, BJP and ABVP gathered near the VHP office and started shouting slogans against the NCP. They also burnt an effigy of home minister R R Patil.

The minister, on his part, said those involved in the attack would not be spared. Chhagan Bhujbal, minister in charge of Nashik and a senior NCP leader, said the culprits should be strongly dealt with. He also said though it was not clear who actually attacked the VHP office, the police had been asked to take immediate action.

NCP state president Arun Gujarathi told TOI that it was an unfortunate incident but denied that his party was involved in the attack. He, too, said action was necessary against those involved.

Just a day ago, the state cabinet had made a provision to penalize those involved in strikes and attacks, causing damage to public and private property. The VHP promptly demanded that the NCP pay for the damage done to its office in Nashik. Sharad Pawar's party might, therefore, be the first casualty of the amendment to the Bombay Police Act.

The home minister said the government would recover the damages from those responsible for the attack on the VHP office.

Senior BJP leader Gopinath Munde said cases were being fabricated by the state police against VHP activists for the Malegaon blast and the use of RDX.

Immediately after the attack on the VHP office, state BJP president Nitin Gadkari demanded that the NCP pay for the damage caused by its activists. He also said attempts of the NCP-Congress to defame Hindutva organisations would backfire.

I would really appreciate their(NCP goons) bravery if they could do a similar thing to NDF and SIMI offices in few selected ghettos of Mumbai/Kerala.

Vivek Sreenivasan · Post by **Vivek Sreenivasan** » 27 Oct 2008 19:39

This is a very dangerous development imo, MNS is playing on dangerous sentiments in the public, there could be more violence against 'outsiders', already there is mass demonstrations in Bihar against MNS. Action NEEDS to be taken, otherwise events could spiral down a very dangerous path..., this Raj Thackery is an absolute asshole.

Pardon my language.

Vivek Sreenivasan · Post by **Vivek Sreenivasan** » 27 Oct 2008 19:54

This communalism both inter-religious and intra-religious has very significant implications for the future of India. Right now they are not large scale but they could easily become much more larger with outsiders in many states being targeted against, this my fellow Brfites is a step towards civil war and the balkanisation of India. May that day never come. I think that people need to cool down both literally and figuratively and maybe get more of the sunshine Vitamin (Vit D look up its benefits). No Joke i really cant think of anything to really stop this downward slide. People seem to damn apathetic or scared to take on goondas like Raj.

I mean if your an ordinary member of the public and and faced with goondas armed with knives, swords, bats, wooden objects etc how are you supposed to stand up? The only people who cant act against MNS and the like are the state or national authorities otherwise tragic acts like this mumbai bus shooting will continue to happen.

So Raj Thackery in the unlikely event that your a Brfite member i urge you to relax take your shirt off go outside with a 'cold coke' and soak up the sunshine. It will be good for your health and for god sakes stop this divisive madness.

Vivek Sreenivasan · Post by **Vivek Sreenivasan** » 27 Oct 2008 19:56

India has never been a united country in its long history, even the Mugals under Arungazeb only got to the Kauvery river and their authority really only stretched 100km from the capital Delhi, when their armies left a captured area and went back to delhi usually the rulers left behind paid only 'nominal' subservience. Maybe india needs to become even more federated, give more autonomy to the states and even set up a homeland for the nagas and other tribal groups, the center should only be repsonsible for national defence and foreign policy.

Let the states raise their own taxes and have thier own finance minsiters ie the states should in all regards be independent except for national defence and foreign policy. What do Brfits think? If states get into a conflict then the center should intervene but only with the authority of other states in the republic.

sum · Post by **sum** » 27 Oct 2008 20:02

Let the states raise their own taxes and have thier own finance minsiters ie the states should in all regards be independent except for national defence and foreign policy. What do Brfits think? If states get into a conflict then the center should intervene but only with the authority of other states in the republic.

Isnt it almost the case in our present structure

Vivek Sreenivasan · Post by **Vivek Sreenivasan** » 27 Oct 2008 20:20

I thought the center was responsible for Taxation? The states should collect taxation and each of the states should contribute a specific amount to the center to pay for defence and upkeep of institutions.

sum · Post by **sum** » 27 Oct 2008 20:48

Vivek Sreenivasan wrote:I thought the center was responsible for Taxation? The states should collect taxation and each of the states should contribute a specific amount to the center to pay for defence and upkeep of institutions.

Even the states have their own taxes and duties over and above the central ones....These are revised every year in the state budgets.

Anyways, these posts seem OT for internal security thread....maybe, can be shifted to a appropriate thread??

Keshav · Post by **Keshav** » 27 Oct 2008 21:22

sum wrote:
Vivek Sreenivasan wrote:I thought the center was responsible for Taxation? The states should collect taxation and each of the states should contribute a specific amount to the center to pay for defence and upkeep of institutions.
Even the states have their own taxes and duties over and above the central ones....These are revised every year in the state budgets.

Anyways, these posts seem OT for internal security thread....maybe, can be shifted to a appropriate thread??

There was a "Good Governance" thread that could be used to discuss this. These types of discussions about fundamental changes in the Indian system are important.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Oct 2008 22:38

This Raj Thackery (Crankrey) is the new Bhindrenwala. He is being socially engineered to take on the Shiv Sena just as B'wala was shaped to taken on the Akali Dal. So it will end the same way unless someone shows him his future.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 27 Oct 2008 22:39

Mean while in Kerala...

Local media is reporting in large volume the news about the Jehadis (the dead and alive ones).
* One of the dead Jehadis, Muhammad Yasin is a recent convert from Christianity. In hold old avatar as Varghese Joseph this chap was in the K.D list of in a couple of police stations at Ernakulam.
* The bobbies have formed a special team to crack the Jehadi network. Enquiries and detention of suspects in large numbers in Kannur District. This district was infamous for bomb blasts and CPI(M) v/s RSS & BJP cadres.
* IB is also supposed to be concentrating in some areas in Calicut Rural Dt.
* The parents of the dead chaps have categorically said that they do not wish to see (or receive) the deadbodies.
* There is also report which says that many of the Jehadis are recruited purely based on monetory incentives (and not really based on what is their in the holy books). Most of these chaps also had a criminal background.