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Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 01 Mar 2014 03:34
by UlanBatori

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 01 Mar 2014 07:18
by disha
And even dead man come back to life! Mahdi has arrived http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/28/us/dead-m ... back-life/
Even in the Bible Belt, coroners don't use the word "miracle" lightly. But Holmes County, Mississippi, Coroner Dexter Howard has no qualms using the word for the resurrection, as it were, of Walter Williams, who was declared dead Wednesday night.
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Howard is an elected official and not a doctor. More than 1,500 counties in the United States elect coroners and most don't require medical degrees.
Neither in his 12 years as county coroner nor during his decade as deputy coroner has Howard seen anything like it. Howard was absolutely certain Williams was dead.
I am absolutely certain *now* that mississippi is land of miracles.

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 01 Mar 2014 08:42
by Manish_P

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 02 Mar 2014 21:26
by rgsrini
One thing that I always envied about the US is the emphasis is that it places on merit. Nothing else matters. I am not sure when we SDRE Indians will learn to give importance to merit, rather than economic status on an individual and color of their skin :(


The strength of American meritocracy

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 03 Mar 2014 00:03
by UlanBatori

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 03 Mar 2014 17:47
by Neela

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 04 Mar 2014 02:22
by Philip
Sex in men's prisons: 'The US system cultivates rape. If you treat people like animals, they behave like it'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 55241.html
Human Rights Watch estimated in 2010 that 140,000 US inmates have been raped. Shaun Attwood has written three books on life inside and his latest, Prison Time, details the sex – consensual or otherwise – the prostitution, the pimping and the equal, loving relationships behind bars





The crook of another man's elbow is on my Adam's apple, pressing down, choking me. After just a couple of seconds, I panic and gasp.

Shaun Attwood, who spent more than five years in some of America's toughest prisons, including Arizona's infamous Maricopa Jail, is showing me how men in prison are raped.

"Generally they put the victim to sleep with a choke hold – locking the windpipe like this," he says, rendering me unable to reply. "Within about 10 seconds you're unconscious."

Attacks don't always begin like this. Sometimes, "they'll lure them with drugs and get them really high – 90 per cent of prisoners shoot-up drugs". Sometimes they'll trick the victim into a debt and then make them repay it with sex. Other times it can start with a beating or stabbing.

Human Rights Watch estimated in 2010 – three years after Attwood left jail – that 140,000 US inmates have been raped. Other studies have helped fill in the quantitative picture: 21 per cent of prisoners in the Midwest reported being forced into some form of sexual activity, according to Prison Journal. Young inmates are five times more likely to be sexually assaulted, says Just Detention International, an organisation devoted to ending prison rape. Similar statistics aren't available in the UK but in the year 2011 – there were 103 male and female prisoner-on-prisoner sexual assaults.

The statistics, then, we know. The jokes, of course, we know, too: "Don't drop the soap!" is repeated so often by so many as to become Britain and America's prison-rape refrain – a chorus of discomfort to muzzle the horror.

But the 3D picture of prison rape in America, the how and why and what happens next, is scarcely uttered because those who survive the system almost invariably have no voice. Attwood, however, a tall, skinny, somewhat geeky 43-year-old from Widnes, doesn't just have a voice, but has written three books on life inside. And his latest, Prison Time, details the sex – consensual or otherwise – the prostitution, the pimping and the equal, loving relationships behind bars.

The details of which cast fresh light not only on the culture, politics and dynamics in America's penitentiary system, but on the nature of male sexuality itself. Heterosexual? Bi? Gay? Labels erode, irrelevant, in the absence of women and societal constraints.

We begin by discussing rape because it is everywhere in prison and everywhere in his book, an ever-present threat.

"I was constantly mentally preparing to fight to the death to stop it happening to me," he says. "I would leave pens out [in my cell] – I was getting ready to, you know..." his voice trails off. Pens can be a deadly weapon. They can also blind. (A transgender inmate called She-Ra, whom Attwood became friends with, was so broken by gang rapes she finally stopped them by popping an eyeball out of one of her attackers.)

"I had a profound determination to stop it happening because once that's happened to you, everyone finds out and the whole prison society will treat you differently. From then on you're game for anyone to do anything to do you. Not only sexually, but in any way you will be taken advantage of."

Shaun Attwood photographed in Widnes last month (Mike Poloway) Shaun Attwood photographed in Widnes last month (Mike Poloway)
It's not only young men who are more likely to be raped, but obviously gay ones, too. What are the chances, then, that a young-ish gay man such as myself would be raped? Attwood looks down.

"It is inevitable," he says quietly. "And no one on the outside is interested. Until someone's son is calling them from prison saying, 'I've got a cellmate with a padlock in a sock who is threatening to rape me,' they couldn't care less."

In 2003 – a year after Attwood's incarceration for dealing ecstasy on the Arizona rave scene – a federal law was passed, the Prison Rape Elimination Act, decreeing statistics must be compiled nationally and grants given to prisons to help reduce rape. This manifested in what Attwood calls "rape classes".

"It involved us being taught about rape and being told we have to report rape," he says with a snort of derision. "Everyone laughed throughout and said to the teacher, 'We are not going to report rape!'. If you report anything in prison you're deemed a snitch and it's KOS – kill on sight – for snitches. At the end of the class everyone was saying, 'They might as well give us rape kits' – a how-to."

Not that they needed it. Immediately after the class, "a mentally-ill prisoner was gang-raped. No one reported a thing".

Is there anything, then, that could be done to stop it?

"When you've got two guards watching hundreds of prisoners – to keep costs down – prisoners can do whatever they want. The US prison system cultivates rape. If you treat people like animals, they behave like it."

Unsurprisingly, in such an epidemic, sexually transmitted infection (STI) rates are sky-high. Attwood says in one prison, he counted up the cons with hepatitis C: it came to two-thirds. Many had HIV. The only ones receiving treatment were those who had taken legal action. And thus, some prisoners had full-blown Aids.

Without realising, Attwood himself illustrates how normalised inmates become to rape and sexual assault, to the extent they don't even recognise it.

In Prison Time, he describes walking in on a young man being forced to fellate another prisoner, an act considered rape in several states and many countries. But when I ask if Attwood ever witnessed a rape, he says no. And when I ask if he felt he had been assaulted when another lag grabbed him, French-kissed him and groped him with hands moist with lubricant Attwood replies: "No, not at all. If I did that to a woman in a bar, that's sexual assault, but in prison the limits are completely different from society."

Shaun Attwood, photographed by a fellow inmate at Buckeye Prison, Arizona, 2004 Shaun Attwood, photographed by a fellow inmate at Buckeye Prison, Arizona, 2004
The man who grabbed him he had nicknamed Jeeves. This is because Jeeves was his "butler". Jeeves was sexually obsessed with Attwood and so offered to work for him cleaning his cell and looking after all domestic concerns – a dynamic from which he derived sexual kicks. There was no payment, just the thrill of it. He would make advances to Attwood fairly regularly, but was always rebutted. To the English inmate, Jeeves was comparatively harmless – before being moved to this cell, Attwood would have to walk past another every day in which resided a prisoner called Booga. He documents their first meeting:

"I'm pulled into a cell reeking of backside sweat and masturbation, a cheese-tinted funk. 'I'm Booga. Let's ******,' says a squat man in urine-stained boxers, with WHITE TRASH tattooed on his torso...I can't believe my eyes when he drops his boxers and waggles his penis... He grabs me. We scuffle... When I feel his penis rub against my leg, my adrenalin kicks in so forcefully I experience a burst of strength and wriggle free."

For Attwood, escaping rape, as well as "murder, or even having bones broken or teeth knocked out", for nearly six years was "freakishly" lucky, and thanks in part to his "English wit" and "people skills" as well his friendships with some of the gang leaders. Other prisoners avoid rape – or at least consider themselves to be avoiding it – by becoming a "punk".

This relates to the word's original meaning – the receptive male partner in anal sex – but in prison becomes a job, an identity. You are a receptacle, owned by another.

"They tend to be the younger, prettier inmates – or the transsexual ones," explains Attwood. "If you're a big, bad gang member, which gives you the right to have a punk to use for sex, as long as you're the 'giver', it's not considered remotely gay."

The particulars of this relationship can vary. The higher up the prison strata (which generally means the more violent) the gangster, the better looking his punk.

"But he's got to fight to maintain that punk. It's a warrior society."

The punk becomes their property. And as such, can either be kept for their sole use or pimped.

"People use them like a commodity and rent them out," he explains. But it's only others with high status who hire them.

"Some will allow their punks to be unfaithful with other punks only, which is called 'bumping pussies'. It's all tied up in notions of property ownership, with sexual jealousy a secondary factor."

The rules of ownership are also governed by race. With most prisoners grouping socially on racial lines, so, too, must their punks.

"A punter – say a Mexican American – might rent a white punk from a white pimp, but a Mexican American wouldn't be running a white punk."

As Attwood utters these words in his rather resonant Cheshire tones – an excitable Gary Barlow if you will – he attracts several glances. We are in a vegetarian restaurant called The Beano, in Guildford, where he now lives. Tables of slate-haired women are seemingly unused to hearing about sexual slavery as they chow down on mushroom lasagne.

They look round again when he describes a prisoner regularly selling his semen to another who used it in ways perhaps unsuitable to describe in a newspaper. And again when he enthuses about the aforementioned She-Ra melting down bits of plastic to make dildos. Needs must.

An inmate taking exercise at Maricopa Jail (Getty Images) An inmate taking exercise at Maricopa Jail (Getty Images)
Attwood is as out of place here as he was in Arizona's prisons. But the "shy" raver who went to America's Wild West aged 21 to become a stockbroker, before giving it up to supply the state's party scene with ecstasy, could scarcely care less. He is alive and five thousand miles from the world that stripped his identity like white spirit. Even his sexual identity, even after just a few years, started to wane, tracing a fairly typical trajectory for inmates.

"Early on, the other prisoners told me, 'After so many years you'll start to turn', and I was like, 'No, no, no, I've got a girlfriend'. But, gradually, all my belief systems and conditioning started falling away. Being in prison made me question my own sexuality."

Three magnets started tugging at his old heterosexuality. First, prison mores.

"Any number of activities deemed 'gay' on the outside aren't inside," he says. "Being the 'top' in anal sex? Receiving oral sex from a [pre-operative] transsexual? Considered perfectly straight."

Then there were the transgender women themselves – found in male prisons because the American system doesn't recognise chosen gender. One in particular, called Gina, he describes lusting after, fantasising about, and coming "this close" to having sexual contact with, prevented only by her pimp.

And finally, there is the vast, gripping loneliness.

"The deprivation of physical contact in any form plays a huge role," he says, frowning and looking more forlorn than ever. "You miss the warmth, that bond, the intimacy, the touch." He enunciates the words as if salivating over an exquisite dessert. "Going without sex kills you – it's one of the hardest parts." At this he shrieks with laughter, a paroxysm of stress and relief. Now, he has a girlfriend.

But he wasn't just unusually lucky to avoid rape or extreme violence; he was almost anomalous in never engaging sexually with another prisoner.

"The majority are at least receiving oral sex from a transsexual." One of whom, he says, cut her own testicles off in her cell, to quell testosterone.

But perhaps more striking and surprising than all of the above is the tender, loving relationships he documents. Mostly, couples keep their relationship private, as having anything valuable on display leaves one open to sabotage. But not all.

"There was one couple – an older and younger guy – and the young guy had broken up with him, so he was crying his eyes out, running across the recreation field, shouting, 'You broke my heart!' in front of all the men. It was quite a sight."

And when forced apart, for example when one prisoner is moved to a lower security unit, they would then often deliberately get into trouble to be moved back with their partner.

"Lots of these guys had wives or girlfriends on the outside who knew nothing about these relationships, and they'd return to them, on release."

Although unsure about the previous sexual identity of some of these men, Attwood is certain of one thing: the longer the sentence, the higher the chance of crossing the line.

"Presently, I couldn't imagine ending up with a man, but I know you change over time – after a 10- or 15-year stretch I would in all likelihood be thinking differently. Your old life gets crushed out of you."

He also received some aching love letters from ostensibly straight prisoners. One of which was from a Mexican mafia hit man called Frankie who imagined being engaged to Attwood and explaining how he wants someone he can "make love to".

"I spoke to Frankie on the phone last year, he's back with his wife. I asked him how he reconciled all this and he said, 'My mind works in all kinds of ways'." He shrieks with laughter again.

After everything the writer witnessed, it is perhaps no surprise that seven years on, Attwood remains psychologically scarred.

"I still have nightmares," he says. "I used to get flashbacks." This might also explain the place where he chose to make a new life.

"I don't want any more mad excitement. I've had enough of it, so Guildford's perfect for me. Just to be able to walk along the river, sit on a bench and stare at the water. It's the height of ecstasy".

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 06 Mar 2014 08:15
by Anantha
you Indoos take that.. You need to learn about Hinduism from Goras like Wendy
Her lowness sakshat Wendy D has a farticle in tomorrow's NY times

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/06/opini ... ef=opinion

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 06 Mar 2014 13:29
by member_28352
Educated and liberal Boston Brahmins make upskirting legal.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 527971.cms
This is in sharp contrast to backward, Hindu nationalist, slave drivers who only in 2013 added specific sections to their penal code to guard against voyeurism. How backward. First no gay rights, now this.

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 06 Mar 2014 18:20
by UlanBatori
This reminds me of the story in ancient Ulan Bator. Professor Pondy ***** of the U. Shi*cargo was visiting to do research for her next book called An Alternative Hysteria of The Tartars, mainly featuring orgies between Chenghis Khan statues and visiting Sociology and Divinity faculty from New Delhi and Chicago. She was taking a ride in a rickshaw, when the rickshaw collided with a speeding camel. The puller was knocked down, the rickshaw (and Her Upskirtedness) were upended. She got up, and rushed to heroically lift the rickshaw all by herself, retrieving her prized copy of Prof. Wendy Doniger's most recent book, contained in a large can marked "toxic pulp", before dropping the rickshaw back on the fallen driver (who thus had an ubobstructed view to vast terrain). She asked:
DID YOU SEE MY COURAGE?
Being a dirt-poor Right-Wing Hindutvadin part-time yak-herder from Xinjiang, the rickshaw puller's knowledge of Angreji was very poor, he understood "Did u c" and there was no mistaking the expression on the Professor's face. Shivering in fear in his dhoti, he admitted:
Iii tttrriieeddd ttto ccccclose my eeeyes, Memsaheb, hhhhonest, but yyyeeees I did for a fleeting moment, and it was like looking into the Salang Tunnel!! Oh, puhleeease don't kill me with those biceps of yours!!!
:eek: :eek: :eek: :shock:

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 06 Mar 2014 19:01
by habal
http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-crimea-cr ... 39669.html

Hillary compares Putin to Hitler

http://ur.umich.edu/9293/Apr12_93/14.htm

USA biographer compares Hillary to Eleanor Roosevelt

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Eleanor Roosevelt

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 07 Mar 2014 01:27
by member_22733

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 07 Mar 2014 02:16
by member_22733
Land of the Fee, home of the slave

Please do this dead man some justice and read his letter to the end. Nothing was eye opening to me, but these facts never fail to "amaze" me every time I read them.

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 07 Mar 2014 11:19
by Sonugn
American citizen takes the meaning of 'loving animals' to a all new higher level
As a perverted hindoo (Wendy says so), i have goosebumps at this act of selfless love shown by the America citizen.

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 07 Mar 2014 12:18
by Sonugn
The America police gifts a newly wed fire fighter 'the gift of his life (not)
I am moved by the high standards set by the America police, we need to think out of the box and change ourselves.

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 07 Mar 2014 12:21
by Sonugn
The American mama loves her kids so much that she wanted to wash them in the sea
I am moved by this kind gesture from the American mama.

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 07 Mar 2014 12:33
by Sonugn
The America Brig. General enforces tough new laws against sexual assault
Rapist nationalist brahman generals of India should enforce such tough laws.

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 07 Mar 2014 22:17
by rgsrini
Wow! The Americans know how to empower women, and ensure that their rights are protected. In this regard, the American armed forces are a leading beacon of light for the whole world. The separation of responsibilities between the various arms of the US government is the fundamental reason why they are able to protect human and women's rights. No wonder sexual assaults are non-existent in US armed forces.

Senate votes to eliminate sexual assaults in US Armed forces

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 07 Mar 2014 22:28
by rgsrini
Please take a moment to review and remember the Heart warming images of Americans ensuring human rights and dignity, in the uncivilized developing world.
Human Rights and Dignity are fundamental principles, that drive USA's engagement with the world

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 08 Mar 2014 01:26
by member_22733
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Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 08 Mar 2014 03:39
by UlanBatori

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 08 Mar 2014 04:36
by member_22733
Black people commit more pot related crimes even though more white people smoke pot than white people.

Take a look at the following graph:

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Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 08 Mar 2014 06:52
by rgsrini
When will India attain US standards in ensuring that "no one is above the law".
Look at the extent they go in the USA, to implement this.

Police stops Judge for DUI

Read the comments as well.

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 08 Mar 2014 19:53
by A_Gupta
http://boingboing.net/2014/03/05/us-emb ... nspir.html
Godaddy has censored a prominent Mexican political site that was critical of the government and a proposed law to suppress public protests. Godaddy says that it suspended 1dmx.org after a request from a "Special Agent Homeland Security Investigations, U.S. Embassy, Mexico City." A lawyer for the site believes that the someone in the Mexican government asked the US embassy to arrange for the censorship, and is suing the Mexican government to discover the identity of the official who made the request.

Leaving aside the Mexican government corruption implied by this action, Americans should be outraged about the participation of the US Embassy in the suppression of political dissent.
Further:
http://www.ibtimes.com/godaddy-us-embas ... an-1559720
Following the Dec. 1, 2012, protests against the inauguration of Enrique Peña Nieto as president of Mexico, 1dmx.org was set up to be a source of news, information and discussion for the community of Mexican protesters. The site grew over the course of the year, and members of the 1dmx community planned a memorial protest on Dec. 1, 2013.

The next day, 1.dmx.org disappeared from the Internet. Its host, GoDaddy, suspended service without notice due to “an ongoing law enforcement investigation.”

The investigation under the charge of “Special Agent Homeland Security Investigations” from the U.S. Embassy, and the contact information provided indicated that the investigation involved the Immigration and Customs Enforcement division.

The protesters suspect that there is more involved in the takedown of 1dmx.org, and the lawsuit demands to know exactly where the command to remove the website came from.

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 08 Mar 2014 20:16
by Hitesh
LokeshC wrote:Land of the Fee, home of the slave

Please do this dead man some justice and read his letter to the end. Nothing was eye opening to me, but these facts never fail to "amaze" me every time I read them.
The letter would be impressive if Ray Jasper had been truthful from the beginning and honest with himself as he so blithely stated in the letter. What he conveniently left out is that he was the one that planned the robbery and murder of the recording owner. He was the first one to assault the recording owner and attempted to murder him, when he slitted the owner's throat from left to right although that was not this injury that killed him. The follow up violent acts perpetuated by his accomplices are what killed him.

Ray Jasper was trying to get off on a technicality that he didn't kill the man but the courts saw through that and saw that he was the one that initiated and committed the act of killing the owner and the other guys just finished him off.

You can read the opinion here. http://www.cca.courts.state.tx.us/opinions/73817.htm

Yes there needs to be prison reform and sentence reform but Ray Jasper is not a legitimate spokesperson or a rallying point. He did deserve the death penalty in the same way that those 5 adults who committed the rape but did not kill the unfortunate girl in Delhi deserved the death penalty even though the real harm and killing was done by the lowest scumbag and piece of shit juvenile who got off lightly. Why? Because they enabled the crime in the first place with the intention of imparting serious and grave harm without any kind of remorse just as Ray Jasper did.

That is why Ray Jasper was sentenced to the death penalty because he showed no remorse and only showed a calibrated intent to murder the man and engaged events into motion that brought about the owner's death. He wasn't sentenced to death because he just hold up a place for robbery and his accomplice/co-conspirator just shot the owner to death without him planning on it.

He deserves the death penalty and he does not deserve to be remember as a martyr or a rally cry against the injustices of the world. He committed injustice against a law abiding man and loving father who wanted to help other people out and he took advantage of the man's sweet nature to commit a capricious and malicious crime against the owner. That is what he needs to be remembered as.

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 09 Mar 2014 21:54
by panduranghari
While US universities are producing copious number of 'peer reviewed' research AKA mutual back scratching network and equal number of sepoys, the youth are working very hard to learn the tricks of trade from a young age.

link
Many deaths occur after frat house parties as well as during pledging.

In 2011, George Desdunes, a student at the elite Cornell University, New York, died after SAE recruits kidnapped him, blindfolded and tied him up then forced him to drink copiously. The three kidnappers were cleared of all wrongdoing and were acquitted.

In 2012, Justin Stuart, 19, was ordered by SAE members at Salisbury University, Maryland, to recite the fraternity oath shivering in a bin full of ice almost naked, while frat boys hosed him down.

During eight weeks of pledging he was beaten, coerced into drinking and dressed in women’s clothing and nappies, he told a college inquiry.

Then members locked him and others in a dark basement without food, water or a bathroom, while blasting the same German rock song at ear-splitting volume for nine hours

Seems the training for working in Guantanamo bay has already started. atta boys. you need those skills to invade the world and bring frat house Greek ideals of freedom and democracy.

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 09 Mar 2014 22:01
by UlanBatori
Why do you think they put politicians' pictures on dollar bills?
.... corrupted Hampton, making it the dirtiest little town in Florida. That's saying something, because Florida has seen enough civic shenanigans to lead the nation in federal corruption prosecutions and convictions, according to a watchdog organization called Integrity Florida. The group's 2012 study revealed that more than 1,760 of Florida's public officials had been convicted of corruption since 1976.

"It's a mess," Dan Krassner, the group's co-founder, said of the situation in Hampton. "Clearly, there has been misuse of public funds and lack of oversight. The cronyism and nepotism is out of control."

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 09 Mar 2014 23:15
by member_28502
Blast of Positive news from the past and current policy too..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overthrow_ ... _of_Hawaii

The overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii refers to a coup d'état on January 17, 1893, in which anti-monarchical insurgents within the Kingdom of Hawaii, composed largely of United States citizens, engineered the overthrow of its native monarch, Queen Lili'uokalani. Hawaii was initially reconstituted as an independent republic, but the ultimate goal of the revolutionaries was the annexation of the islands to the United States, which was finally accomplished in 1898.


On July 6, 1846, U.S. Secretary of State John C. Calhoun, on behalf of President Tyler, afforded formal recognition of Hawaiian independence. As a result of the recognition of Hawaiian independence, the Hawaiian Kingdom entered into treaties with the major nations of the world and established over ninety legations and consulates in multiple seaports and cities.[4] Though there were threats to Hawaii's sovereignty throughout the Kingdom's history, it was not until the signing of the Bayonet Constitution in 1887 that this threat began to be realized. On January 17, 1893, the last monarch of the Kingdom of Hawaii, Queen Lili'uokalani, was deposed in a coup d'état led by seven non-native subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom, five American nationals, one English national, and one German national,[5] all who were living and doing business in Hawaii and opposed to her attempt to establish a new Constitution.
The coup efforts were supported by American minister to Hawaii John L. Stevens and the invasion of U.S. Marines, who came ashore at the request of the conspirators. The coup left the queen imprisoned at Iolani Palace under house arrest. It briefly became the Republic of Hawaii, before eventual seizure by the United States in 1898.
The overthrow was led by Lorrin A. Thurston, a grandson of American missionaries, who derived his support primarily from the American and European business class residing in Hawaii and other supporters of the Reform Party of the Hawaiian Kingdom. Most of the leaders of the Committee of Safety that deposed the queen were American and European citizens who were also Kingdom subjects. They included legislators, government officers, and a Supreme Court Justice of the Hawaiian Kingdom.[6]
Expansion of empires is always started by Religion continues to be so even today, one fine morning Indian may face the same situation.. (hope not)

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 10 Mar 2014 04:50
by kish
Unlike caste ridden patriarchal Hindu majority India, children in Amreekaa live in total peace. Children even learn how to use knives and other weapons at a very tender age from their father(biological or otherwise)

Maryland considers making violent offenders do more time if a child sees the crime
“This man is trying to kill my mommy,” a small voice replies.

“Does he have any weapons?”

“Yes, he has a knife,” the boy says and then shouts away from the receiver, “PLEASE! Don’t kill her!”

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 12 Mar 2014 00:56
by member_22733

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 12 Mar 2014 00:59
by member_22733
Hitesh wrote:......snip.....
He deserves the death penalty ....... That is what he needs to be remembered as.
Bliss to remember that this thread is about Bositive neuj about the USofA just like Indian news on the Diwar Sadak Patrika (WallStreet Journal) is Bositive neuj about India. Regardless of facts on the ground, please keep that in mind and read the posts that way.

Thanking You!
Lokesh Chandra.

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 12 Mar 2014 05:24
by Nandu

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 12 Mar 2014 18:32
by svinayak
Hey whats wrong with NPR…?”

NPR is a good radio station, just like the New York Times is a good newspaper, but both are, in effect, by and for upper-middle-class White Americans.

For me, the defining moment came when I saw a picture of my neighbourhood in the New York Times – taken from a police car!! That said it all.

Starbucks is like that too, as George Ryder pointed out: they only show up when your neighbourhood is being gentrified and White people start moving in.

And so is McDonald’s, despite their heavy marketing to Blacks: you know you live in a hardcore ghetto when there are no McDonald’s and yet there is, say, a Church’s Chicken.

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 13 Mar 2014 09:34
by Kannan
I think you'd have to be fairly dense to think there is no crime here.

On the other hand, I haven't had to bribe police officers to get a death certificate issued for a dead family member, for a ration card, to get an application reviewed etc. That kind of stuff seems reserved for the political icons and Wall St types, though they get busted fairly frequently too. I also don't have a maid, so perhaps it is merelt that I'm not high class.

If you don't think there's a problem, then the problem will continue till the planet becomes an Idiocracy.

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 04:54
by Shreeman
In case someone paid attention to the goings-on, we have been bogged down by nitty gritty of actually doing something beyond keyboard wars. We are taking hakimi medication and using intensive shaman consultations. If the peers wish, the story will one day be told in full. In the meantime, here is a match update.

The daily diet: The revelry and lovefest sections are new in every post, courtesy of google uncle, in case you haven't noticed.
Revelry: The world's attention is focused on this and not this or this, in case you are wondering. We have the BEST media. You can forget about discussion of this.
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Revelations: What is rape vs. what is sexual assault ? What is an atomic weapon or atom bomb and what is a nukular weapon? What is an indian and what is a south asian ? When are these terms used?
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A story:
chapter 0. The initiation.
chapter 1. The dictionary.
chapter 2. The White house takes lead in promoting the United States leadership in robotics.
chapter 3. The United States takes lead in high-technology -- haptics, robotics, and healthcare.
chapter 4. An editorial: the value of satire.
chapter 5. The Freedoms: Thou shalt not take the lord's name in vain.
chapter 6. The Law: In whom shall we place blind faith.
chapter 7. The Zeal: Where humans aim to imitate and excel upon sheep.
chapter 8. Hiatus to observe pastafarian sabbath.

and, an anecdote for the young'uns, and a FAQ and why it is important to you. And there is no distinction between donkeys and horses here. All stories are welcome and encouraged.

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With no particular dates in mind, to come:
chapter 09. The essence of verification in journalism, publication, and everything; and the myth of peer-review.
chapter 10. The lure of money.
chapter 11. On the dangers of speaking out.
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chapter 12. And in conclusion.
chapter 13. Acknowledgements.
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Special Sports Report (U-NSN, out of interns, no new applications): The unlimited over, unlimited cricket match has been turned into a series. Number of matches in the series has not been disclosed, but we conjecture a best-of-three format. This new format series is attracting some corporate sponsors, and the rule book is being revised to reflect the facts on the ground. Unfortunately, spectator interest has dwindled in the mean time. New games in foreign lands that first took lead in match-fixing are stealing the audiences. Without ticket revenue or comparable corporate sponsorship that series might end up being a one-time affair.

In the first match, the umpires have handed Team Yindia an unexpected victory, with Team YooEssay tail-enders being run-out unexpectedly. Remember, due to unlimited duration, substitutes are allowed to bat, bowl, and field. Even spectators can get into the fray if they wish. However, first match team members may not be recalled for the next matches in the series, especially in the losing team.

Match/Series: Current State of Affairs (unlimited overs, balls, unlimited bouncers and no-balls, no holds barred):

Team Yindia ("The custodials") : General (Amber G --still active), members (notwithstanding rank) - LokeshC, Gus, vishvak, MurthyB,saip, …

Team YooEssay ("The grouses"): General (TSJ, in good humor, eulogizing NSA capabilities in the MH370 thread ), members - KLP Dubey (tenured), matrimc (reticent), negi, KJoishy, B. Parara (star bowler), abhischekcc (new batsman),…

Umpires: ramana, JEM, A Scheindlin.

Sage: shiv (guest appearances only, reduced appetite).

Nutcase spectators (waving flag or otherwise): HHPsY Sulaiman (still a Hobo under the bridge, still asking for an [s]iPad[/s]), UlanBatori (yak butter specialist, new job description -- researching grand conspiracies).

It is surmised that new teams are being prepared in secret, although dates for the next match have yet to be decided. We have no form book on players already in the game, but is understood that the teams will be completed in due time for the next match.
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The previous match report is here. Player enthusiasm has waned and sponsors are running to more popular events. A new chai-biscuit spirit is in the wind. Old match uniforms (even used) have become collector's items, and slated for appearance in the next Sothby's event already.

Disclaimer:Please re-read the FAQ, before making any judgements and inferences. The intent is not to have the reader conceive, but to perceive what is in plain sight. Inferences are your own and please resist the temptation of 140 character conclusions. You may not have yet perceived much more that is relevant. All the yak butter will not give you the essence of what is above. I dont know, and I wrote it. The thread is established and this adds only little additional value now. It is only there at the admin's discretion. This was all that was handy at the time. And pasta willing, more of your preconceptions will be proven false, in less than 140chars.

Hussain HankPsnky
U-NSN
Silicone Valley Wilds

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 08:19
by A_Gupta
This paper by Jakob de Roover might help some understand what is going on.
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1 ... 011.637308
Such normative political models have a peculiar relation to the empirical world.
Although one recognizes some state as a liberal democracy when it fulfills certain basic and necessary conditions (universal adult suffrage, separation of powers, basic freedom to profess and practice one’s religion, and others), one can always condemn any such liberal democracy for its failure to live up to one or several of the normative principles of liberal political theory. At any point, one can judge the factual empirical situation in a liberal democracy –no matter what that factual situation is – as deficient
vis-à-vis norms like equality, freedom of expression, religious freedom, and separation of church and state. One could point out that this state’s educational system or taxation policy is not yet fully democratic and equal, or that the state still gives certain privileges to some church or religious denomination, or that freedom of speech is restricted in certain cases. The trouble is that we do not know what the ‘complete’ fulfillment of these norms would look like. We cannot imagine what a perfectly secular and just state or a fully free, equal and tolerant society would look like. Yet, we can (and do) interpret and assess the factual situation of any particular state as deficient in relation to these norms, whose further fulfillment then has to be pursued in the future.
Let me try to explain in other words. BRFers have observed Islamic behavior, e.g., in Pakistan - the incessant "I'm a more perfect Muslim than you, (and therefore you all have to bow down to me or else be bad Muslims or even Kafirs.) Yet there is never a perfect Muslim. No one can imagine what a perfect Muslim would be like. BRFers have observed the game, but are too smart to play it.

Or maybe not. We do not see "democracy" as a useful engineering device to help meet our needs, but rather as an ideology, as a way the world ought to be. Or rather, we play into the US using this as an ideology. And that is the source of these pissing matches. The US is playing the "I'm the more perfect Muslim democracy game".

Just as we do not play the "I'm the more perfect Muslim game" we have to refuse to play the "I'm the more perfect democracy" or "you're no more a perfect democracy than anyone else" game.

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 08:24
by Shreeman
A_Gupta wrote:This paper by Jakob de Roover might help some understand what is going on.
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1 ... 011.637308
Neuj thread pleej. Discussion goej to the duck-duck-irony-strategic/ant thread.

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 23:30
by Sonugn
It has been a slow day. Why is there no new news of great contributions of the america police?

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 23:35
by member_22733
I have a ton of them with me, just felt like it was getting too positive for my own good :(

Since someone was mentioning the negative news that in the US he does not have to bribe some lower level folks to get by everyday here is some bositive neuj to counter that:
Exhibit A

Re: Positive News from the USA

Posted: 15 Mar 2014 00:11
by Shreeman
LokeshC wrote:I have a ton of them with me, just felt like it was getting too positive for my own good :(

Since someone was mentioning the negative news that in the US he does not have to bribe some lower level folks to get by everyday here is some bositive neuj to counter that:
Exhibit A
You are doing a service Lokesh Chandra, stick to it with the karmanye vadhikaraste... theme.

Good and bad exists everywhere, no reason to expect it or ignore it.