Re: Internal Security Watch
Posted: 17 Nov 2012 04:37
Surasena garu is right. I got fooled lol


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Vasu wrote: BSP and now in SP.
That we are ready to only, the only question is, we are fighting amongst ourselves to figure out who to, the Han's, the Americans, the Church, Pakistan, or Saudi Arabia?JE Menon wrote:According to Shaikh Imran Hossein: "Hindu India must submit".
The report from The Hindu. This report mentions that AK-47 cartridges were found in the area of gun fight. But AK-47 is a rifle of "restricted bore" and is generally not issued to any civilian.krishnan wrote:there were 45 armed guards inside the house....
From the comments section:vijayk wrote:http://www.niticentral.com/2012/11/is-c ... achen.html
Is Congress slyly selling out on Siachen?
This is a incredibly poor piece, quite unworthy of a publication that wishes to be taken seriously. A few reasons why:
1. Ms. Jain casually passes off dialogue amongst retired officers of the Indian and Pakistani armed forces as “military-to-military… confidence building measures:, when it is anything but. If there isn’t a single active officer present, how is the dialogue “military-to-military”?
2. The so-called nationalists may well have apprehensions that the UPA government is “agreeing to American pressure to surrender Indian interests in this strategic sector without taking the Indian public in confidence”? But are these apprehensions grounded in reality, or are they just the product of fertile imaginations running wild? Why would it be in American interests to have India hand over Siachen to Pakistan? And why would the UPA succumb to such pressure? Moreover, if it was the Americans behind this dialogue, why would a Canadian institution take the lead in initiating these talks? Last I heard, there’s no shortage of well-funded think tanks in the United States. Unless these questions are answered satisfactorily, it would be best not to give the rabble-rousers any credibility.
3. It may be obvious to Ms. Jain that “the Atlantic Council of Ottawa and Atlantic Council of US are extensions of the Pakistani Army”, but there’s little evidence to back this accusation up. If it is a product of the columnist’s imagination, then she should specifically state as such, instead of passing off allegations as facts.
4. Why are the “American, Canadian and British global policemen… determined to demilitarise the glacier?” In what way have their actions shown that this is something they are hell-bent on achieving?
5. One finds it very hard to believe that the Chief of Army Staff and his predecessor would be so uncouth as to mouth obscenities when asked by a reporter to comment on a strategic issue. In doing so, they would only bring dishonor to themselves and the office they serve.
6. The government of India has little right to prevent private individuals from meeting with foreigners and discussing any issue under the sun. As long as said individuals are not violating any laws (like giving away troop dispositions, which the OSA prevents), they can discuss whatever they like. Moreover, for the government to “crack down” on these individuals would backfire badly and only end up giving their views credibility. In my opinion, they are doing the right thing by ignoring the whole affair.
7. The fact of the matter is, the Prime Minister, Defence Minister, and the Chief of Army Staff share the exact same view on Siachen: the Glacier is Indian territory, the occupation of the Saltoro Ridge is fully consonant with the Shimla Agreement, and withdrawal will not even be considered until the Pakistanis authenticate the AGPL. That stand has not changed yet. So why is the Government of India being dragged into, and excoriated for, what was essentially a private dialogue between individuals, sponsored by an organisation based in a foreign country at that?
Which we did and do every time you send a fax to TSP you hit submit/enterJE Menon wrote:According to Shaikh Imran Hossein: "Hindu India must submit".
Details about a man from Karnataka’s coastal region, believed to be a provider of bomb-making material to the Indian Mujahideen and its key leader Yasin Bhatkal, remain unclear despite police efforts to find out more about him from the interrogation of Fasih Mehmood, an alleged IM operative deported from Saudi Arabia recently.
The man, identified as Salman, has been named as a supplier of detonators and explosives among six absconding persons including the Bhatkals — Riyaz, Iqbal and Yasin — in a list of 14 people, including Fasih Mehmood, who are accused in the Chinnaswamy Stadium blasts of April 17, 2010. Beyond the name, however, a clear identity is yet to emerge.
Since 2008, coastal Karnataka as a point of supply of bomb materials has figured several times in investigations linked to the Indian Mujahideen. Yasin Bhatkal himself is suspected to have been the supplier of explosives from the region in 2008. He has been on the run since late 2008 but the access to bomb materials from the region has continued.
In the May 13, 2008, serial blasts in Jaipur that left 80 people dead, the ammonium nitrate used in the nine bombs was sourced from Udupi near Mangalore, allegedly by Indian Mujahideen operatives Atif Ameen (killed in the Batla house encounter of 2008) and Ariz Khan (absconding).
For the September 13, 2008, Delhi serial blasts that left 30 people dead, suspects Mohammed Saif and Mohammed Khalid are said to have travelled from Delhi to Udupi on August 28 to collect ammonium nitrate from a man identified as Shah Rukh and believed to be Yasin Bhatkal. Investigations show they collected 7 kg ammonium nitrate and 10 detonators and returned to Delhi on September 2 to begin making the bombs.
Sources said Fasih helped provide Yasin Bhatkal access to a group of people of Darbhanga, where he hails from, to act as foot soldiers through a cousin, Gauhar Aziz Khomeini, and classmate Tariq Anjum Hassan.
Those arrested in the stadium blasts case, apart from Fasih and Qateel, are Gauhar, Tarique, Aftab Alam, Gayur Ahmad Jamali, Kamal Hassan and Kafeel Akhtar. The six absconding are Riyaz Bhatkal, Iqbal Bhatkal, Yasin Bhatkal, Salman, Mohsin Chaudhry and Jasim.
At the top level there is a strong nexus between politician and industrialists. Instead of saving the ill gotten money at 0% Swiss accounts, politicians find it beneficial to lend it to industrialists who can provide high growth for money. Same is true for many large business houses (real estate is one such preferred sector). Ponty Chaddha was no different who created win-win situation for everyone (himself, bureaucrats and politicians).Vasu wrote: One shouldn't speak ill of the dead but this rat duo made their money with the democratically elected rats in BSP and now in SP. Cornered all the liquor business, sugar mills, and it was reported that they would have most likely win the Rs. 10,000 Crore Anganwadi Child Nutrition Scheme that the UP Government is going to announce soon. Most unfortunately, their billions will disappear with them. Google his name and a host of information will emerge. Expecting at least some news on this new political-business nexus saga.
SSridhar wrote:Chanaakya, you wroteThere are two things. One is the mercy petition and the other is the death warrant itself. The 'queue' was spoken of in the context of the mercy petition. The 'queue' is not a popular misconception. It would be fair to say that we were not aware of the mechanism until the Home Minister opened his mouth on this issue. That is what the Home Minister himself said and repeated it many times, the latest being :Contrary to popular misconception there is no queue system . Each Prison Authority decides the time of execution based on set procedure and warrant issued by the court and orders of the State Govt.The actual execution is another matter."The Opposition may be obsessed with Afzal Guru. I have explained so many times and I am surprised that you in the media are repeating the question... We will take up each case according to the order in which the case is pending before the ministry of home affairs and before the President of India.{and that is the definition of a queue, FIFO} So, the cases will be taken up one by one, " he said.
This is what I wrote earlier about the so called queue theory. That was a lie to get out of Afzal guru delay caused by Delhi Govt and MHA.chaanakya wrote: Ok , let me clarify further, there is no queue system, as popularly believed and as propounded by PC to explain the delay, even for mercy petition. ( it had been spoken in the context of mercy petition and statement of chidambaram therefore I had used the word, hope now it is clear). I was also referring to posts made earlier indicating that there are large number of convicts on death row prior to AG.
Home ministry may process the file on FIFO basis, not that they adhere to it strictly in all cases or that is how it is prescribed in office manual.
PC may be stickler to FIFO but not sure how far he would adhere to. AG could become priority or urgent if existence of Govt is at stake. As of now, it is a political dramabaazi and not the touted queue system.
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 54#p868954That is why one doubts the spacious explanation of queue system.
The idea of queue system is probably floated by some smart alek in MHA to get out of afzal logjam.
There is no queue system in execution. Date and time of execution if fixed in the Execution Warrant, popularly known as Black Warrant.
The concept of queue system is more related to MHA dealing with mercy petitions addressed to H.E. the President of and forwarded to MHA for advice of the Cabinet.It is probably dealt with on FIFO basis. SO the queue. A prisoner can not be hanged till his petition is pending with H.E the President.Mercy petition is not a judicial function, but the Grace of the state bestowed upon a condemned prisoner.It can not be challenged once granted can not be altered. Death sentence can be commuted to Life sentence.
The Karnataka High Court on Thursday refused to grant bail to Abdul Nazir Maudany, an accused in the 2008 Bangalore serial bomb blast case. However, the court permitted him to get medical treatment for his ailments at two private hospitals at his cost while being in judicial custody, with police escort.
The High Court did not accept the allegation of Mr. Maudany that the authorities disobeyed the Supreme Court order for providing proper treatment to him and hence vision in his left eye had reduced. He has already lost vision in the right eye. He has coronary artery disease, cervical spondylosis, diabetic retinopathy and diabetic neuropathy, among other ailments.
Going through the details of treatment provided to him by the State on which Rs. 9 lakh was spent, Mr. Justice Das said the accused was treated at the Jayadeva Institute of Cardiovascular Sciences & Research, Karnataka Institute of Dialectology, Minto Eye Hospital, NIMHANS, Kidwai Institute of Oncology, Soukhya Health Centre, Kottakkal Ayurveda Hospital and Narayana Netralaya.
I like this!!However, the court permitted him to get medical treatment for his ailments at two private hospitals at his cost while being in judicial custody, with police escort.
Luckily a secular govt was ruling when this happened else the policemen might have been jailed and chargesheeted for hurting innocent minorities and showing communal intent!!Criticising Delhi Police for its “slipshod approach” and “casualness”, which failed to ensure “minimum standards or proof required in a criminal trial”, the Delhi High Court on Thursday acquitted two men, Mirza Nisar Hussain alias Naza and Mohd Ali Bhatt alias Kille, who had been sentenced to death by a trial court in the 1996 Lajpat Nagar bomb blast case.
The bench of Justices S Ravindra Bhat and G P Mittal also commuted to life imprisonment the death sentence awarded to Mohd Naushad but upheld the life term for Javed Ahmed Khan alias Chhota Javed. All four had appealed against the trial court order.
After the order, standing counsel (criminal) Pawan Sharma, who appeared for the state, said: “We will consider filing an appeal against the verdict after going through the judgment.”
Police had claimed that the four men were members of the Jammu and Kashmir Islamic From and were behind the blast at the crowded Lajpat Nagar market that killed 13 people and injured 38.
In April 2010, a Sessions court convicted the four men. Two others, Farooq Ahmed Khan and a woman named Farida Dar, were held guilty for offences under the Explosive Substances Act and the Arms Act. They were sentenced to jail for seven years and four years and two months, respectively.
Acquitting Mirza Nisar Hussain and Mohd Ali Bhatt, the High Court on Thursday took police to task: “The nature of grave prosecution lapses, in regard to various issues, such as lack of proof connecting some of the accused with the bomb incident, failure to hold TIP of articles and the accused... not recording the statements of vital witnesses... underline not only its lapses and inefficiencies, but also throw up question marks as to the nature and truthfulness of the evidence produced.”
sum wrote:^^ INC has spoken through their new spokesman, B.Raman:
View: Our death penalty laws need to be revisited
There you have it if you were hoping to see another terrorist being hanged!Our laws relating to death penalty need to be revisited in order to provide for death penalty only against those acting at the instance or on behalf of a foreign State or non-State organisation. In other cases, life-long imprisonment should be the norm.
The execution of Ajmal Kasab [ Images ], the Pakistani terrorist belonging to the Lashkar-e-Tayiba [ Images ] who participated in the 26/11 terrorist strikes in Mumbai [ Images ], was totally justified. We need have no regret over it.
At the same time, I do feel that even in the case of people acting at the behest of a foreign State or non-State organisation, there should be special exceptions to carrying out the death penalty, to prevent internal disharmony.
The case of Afzal Guru, sentenced to death for participating in the attack on the Parliament in December 2001, should come under this category. He should not be executed.
It is time to re-formulate our laws relating to death penalty to provide for nuances on the lines mentioned above.
I am yet to come across a more pathetic argument than the above for making India softer than the softest State on planet Earth. Appalling, to say the least.sum wrote:^^ INC has spoken through their new spokesman, B.Raman:
View: Our death penalty laws need to be revisited
This merits a detailed response . Will post it.Sachin wrote:
An act of constitutional impropriety
The above article would be of importance for people interested in law (chaanakya??). .
Does the state govt have powers to 'just' withdraw cases related to terrorism?Opposition parties in Uttar Pradesh on Friday launched a scathing attack on the state government following Allahabad High Court's stern observations on the Samajwadi Party (SP) regime's move seeking permission to withdraw cases against two suspects of 2006 Varanasi serial blasts which had claimed 25 lives.
Thanks to Honorable Courts, they are not letting majority community getting persecuted in their own country.The court while hearing a public interest litigation challenging the Akhilesh Yadav government's decision to seek a review of charges against Waliullah and Shameem, suspects in the blast at Sankatmochan temple had said "you are withdrawing cases against them, tomorrow will you give them the Padma Bhushan?"
Only in India such things happen. Election manifesto promises freedom to terror suspects and call them innocents.In its election manifesto, the ruling SP had promised to review charges against terror suspects to prevent the harassment of innocents.
chaanakya wrote:This merits a detailed response . Will post it.Sachin wrote:
An act of constitutional impropriety
The above article would be of importance for people interested in law (chaanakya??). .
Presently suffice it to say that the Author of the Article is Professor of National Law University yet he has questioned the decision of the President implicitly charging him with bias, prejudice and perhaps accusing him of not taking decision on the basis of merits of the case and materials placed before Him but on the basis of advice of Ministry of Home Affairs. Second assumption he makes and he has no way of substantiating it is that Kasab was not informed of this option to seek judicial review. If he was so conscientious why did he not take up the case of defending Kasab? He could have filed a petition in the court saying that he did not get the best legal advice and he would provide it free of cost.
Don't know if there are specific laws related to terrorism, but prosecution can withdraw cases. At least in Kerala this happens when a new government takes over. Generally cases charged by the previous government, mainly on rioting and public property destruction charges would get this treatment. The government pleader would slyly put an application to withdraw the case (for lack of evidence or what ever it is).kish wrote:Does the state govt have powers to 'just' withdraw cases related to terrorism?
If I get it right the prosecution or the government has no need to inform the defendent what are the legal options available for him/her. It was for Kasab/his lawyers to figure out what options are left and try it out. I dont understand why few folks take a stand that it was the government's job to try and save Kasab's life. I am not doubting on the fact that this execution also had political considerations behind it.vijayk wrote:Weren't they supposed to let Kasab/lawyers know that Presidential pardon request has been rejected and give an opportunity to his lawyers to appeal the rejection in a court?
Dear Mr Vijayvijayk wrote:
The author is not questioning the President. He is questioning the HM and Govt. Weren't they supposed to let Kasab/lawyers know that Presidential pardon request has been rejected and give an opportunity to his lawyers to appeal the rejection in a court? If that is required by law, how is that Govt./HM act so arbitrarily.
2002 Ghatkopar blast: Main conspirator held in Hyderabad
November 24, 2012 02:55 IST
The alleged main conspirator of the 2002 Ghatkopar blast, who was working as a software engineer, has been arrested from Hyderabad in Andhra Pradesh, police said.
The accused, Siddique Taj-ul Islam Kazi, who was working in a software company in Hyderabad on a fake name Siddiqui Taj Quazi, was nabbed on Wednesday from the city and brought to Mumbai [ Images ] on Wednesday before placing him under arrest, a crime branch official said.
"Kazi, a banned SIMI [ Images ] activist, is originally from Aurangabad. Soon after the blast, he went into hiding. He had been staying in Hyderabad for nearly 10 years," the official added.
He was earning a salary of Rs 70,000 per month. He was staying in Hyderabad with his wife and five children.
Two persons were killed and over 50 injured when a bomb went off in a BEST bus at Ghatkopar in Mumbai in December, 2002.
Two months back, police received information that Kazi had been staying in Hyderabad with his family. Acting on this tip-off, the crime branch team carried out investigations and finally on receiving confirmation, sent a team to Hyderabad to arrest Kazi.
The verdict in the Ghatkopar blast case given in June, 2005, had left Maharashtra [ Images ] Police red-faced when all the eight accused were acquitted by a special POTA court of all the charges due to lack of evidence.
http://m.rediff.com/news/report/-ghatko ... 121124.htm
Bomb blast accused living in India for the past 10 years changing identity, the law enforcement couldn't find him.Taj-Ul Islam Kazi, the alleged main conspirator behind the 2002 Ghatkopar blasts, who was arrested from Hyderabad on Friday, was so confident about his freedom, that he was active on a social networking site. Kazi had uploaded his profile and even a photograph on LinkedIn, a professional networking site, under the name he had assumed while staying in Hyderabad for the past 10 years.
The government is likely to appoint S Asif Ibrahim as Director of Intelligence Bureau. He will be the first Muslim to hold the post.
Decks were cleared for his appointment after his colleague in the IB, Yashovardhan Azad, also of Madhya Pradesh cadre but a year senior to him, was recommended for the post of Secretary (Security) in the Cabinet Secretariat, sources said. Earlier, Azad was considered to be the front-runner for the job.
Seems like Govt had to do a bit of maneuvering to make Mr. Ibrahim as Director IBIbrahim, who would otherwise have retired in September next year, would have a two year tenure as Director of IB who is considered to be the topmost in the pecking order of the Indian Police Service.
New Delhi: The government may issue a multi-city visa to Pakistani cricket lovers planning to witness the forthcoming cricket series beginning 25 December if they provide tickets of the matches and return ticket besides having an Indian sponsor.
A committee formed within the Union home ministry has suggested that tickets to the venue and the return tickets would ensure regulating the visiting Pakistani cricket lovers, official sources said.
The Union home ministry, while giving a go ahead for Indo-Pak cricket series, had conveyed to Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) that it would have to strictly abide by the rules framed for allowing Pakistani spectators to enter into India.
What is your problem? Beebal of Uttam Pardesh including Yindoos saw this manifesto before they bhent to bhote and guess who they bhoted for? Bhat ij your broblem with all this?kish wrote:Only in India such things happen. Election manifesto promises freedom to terror suspects and call them innocents.In its election manifesto, the ruling SP had promised to review charges against terror suspects to prevent the harassment of innocents.
New Delhi: The Centre has asked the West Bengal government to immediately amend its Correctional Services Act - 1992, under which seven suspected Maoists have been given the status of 'Political Prisoner'.
In a letter written to the state government, led by Mamata Banerjee's Trinamool Congress, the Centre says that granting such status will have 'pan-India implications' and will give the Maoists an upper hand ideologically.
The Home ministry has also written to Law ministry warning it about the possible 'security implications' if such status is granted to Maoists.
In August this year, the Calcutta High Court had granted 'Political Prisoner' to the suspected Maoists.
The Home ministry has also asked West Bengal to appeal against the order before a bigger bench or the SC immediately. Although the state government had initially promised that it would amend the relevant act, it has refused to answer to the Centre's letters.
Key accused in the US embassy attack case in 2000 - Aftab Ansari - has moved the court seeking 'Political Prisoner' status. Ansari based his argument on the petitions submitted by seven Maoists to the Calcutta High Court earlier this year seeking political prisoner status.
Ansari argued that like the Maoists, he too had been convicted for "waging war against the state", an official said.
After detecting that the e-mail threat to a hotel at Katra emanated from Bangalore, a J&K Police team went to Karnataka and started questioning a couple running a cyber café in a posh locality.
Authoritative sources revealed that the manager of Hotel Grand Devi at Katra, 13 km from the Vaishno Devi shrine, informed the police on November 24 that a threat to avenge Kasab’s death had been emailed by an unknown sender.
“We will avenge the execution of Ajmal Kasab. We will teach India a lesson. We will celebrate Deepavali in Katra. The flying birds will be fired. Indians will be targeted. Stop us if you can,” the text of the email, according to informed sources, read. The unknown sender’s email address, they said, was [email protected].