Know Your India

[bala]

Reclaiming Bharat by Jaipur Dialogues:

The topic “History & Education” explores the role of education in shaping historical understanding, focusing on the need to revise curricula that misrepresent or omit key aspects of India’s heritage. It addresses the impact of colonial narratives on Indian history and the importance of teaching a balanced, accurate version that reflects the nation’s cultural and civilizational depth.



Many luminaries participating in discussion: Nilesh Oak, Sandeep Balakrishna, Avinash Dharmadhikari, CK Raju, Vedveer Arya, Raj Vedam. Correcting the Britshit Rubbish history is goal #1 for all Bharatvasis. The complete BS taught in schools and colleges must be eradicated for good. These people have diligently taken apart the Western narrative. I must add Rajiv Malhotra for spearheading the fight in the lands of US and its academia. भारत गुरूकुल शिक्षा was on sound basis until that BritShit MacCauley came up with his colonial racist edu system. I contend that all major scientific and mathematical concepts originated in Bharat and the west usurped many of them. Tis funny how the Greeks are propped up in the Western world when these buggers frequented India and learnt the basics from Bharat gurus. Bharat's system of edu is ancient and dates for thousands of years, with Yajnadevam showing Indus script is really Sanskrit (the mother of all languages including Latin, Greek, German, Angrez, etc.)

[Amber G.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQa2ol6w7lg
Very interesting description of how he deciphered the indus script, which is apparently sanskrit.

Thanks for posting it..Not an expert but I am little interested..

FWIW Few comments at this point (I may give more insight after reading/ understanding it a little more and see other experts reviewing his work)

Key Highlights

- Yajnadevam employed cryptanalysis methodology to crack the code.
- The detailed manuscript is accessible on Academia.edu.
- Challenges prevailing theories on Aryan migration and language origins.
- Supports ancient chronological estimates for the Vedas and Itihasas.
- Advocated for inclusion in school curricula (Curriculum Significance:).

While some cryptanalysis are meticulously reviewing the manuscript..

IMO his work will face resistance from the Indological establishment as it disproves Aryan migration theories and pushes back Sanskrit classical grammar origins. (Saw M Witzel of Harvard already commenting/criticizing it pathetically - with zero understanding of his methods)

Some "Eminent historians" will likely ignore this evidence but we must study it..

May update with further insights after reviewing Yajnadevam's pioneering work.

[Mukesh.Kumar]

An interesting talk on deciphering the Indus Valley Script.

TL;DR: The IVC was based on Sanskrit, and it's script was closer to Bramhi. The author, Yajnadevam takes a cryptographic approach to deciphering it. Establishes INDIC civilization's continuity from 4000 BCE.

Was nice to hear about Claude Shannon and Information Theory for the first time since madrasa days.



Would be really good if some knowledgeable BRFite well versed in cryptography, could take a look at his paper and provide a summary and opinion. Long time since I dealt with anything in the subject.

[Cyrano]

[Vayutuvan]

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Very revealing. Being from TG, I am a little embarrassed. We are known for karela that too in second place.

[Cyrano]

Vayutuvan garu, are you in the HYD BRF local jirga group on WA/telegram?

[Vayutuvan]

Vayutuvan garu, are you in the HYD BRF local jirga group on WA/telegram?

No, I am not. I was at one point. But was removed. No idea why.

[bala]

We were continuously fed with distorted history of India and there were efforts to hail the Mughal rule and other assorted muslim rulers as great. Also add the Britshits and the French in India during these times. Vikram Sampath dismantles the Tipu/Hyder Ali narrative prevalent in history circles. Killing of Nairs of Kerala, the Malabar conversions, killing of Kodavas of Coorg, killing of Melukote Iyengars and temple destruction all happened. Left historians have all white washed such stuff and boosted Tipu as some visionary dude. Tipu's sword has engraved, "to defeat kafirs". Many existing Churches were destroyed by Tipu.

Jaipur Diaglogues interview with Sanjay Dixit and Virkram Sampath..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUEMhLtMKQQ

[bala]

Rupa Bhaty is well known here on BRF, since she closely collaborates with Nilesh Oak. Rupa Bhaty's brilliant work on the RigVeda is outstanding and she has unearthed various gems embedded in Astronomy primarily, which is termed as Jyotish (note this is not astrology, though the effects of stars/planets/moon/sun regulate the entire universe). Various previous Indian authors like Dayanand Saraswati, Aurobindo have studied RigVeda and have written about the topic. Clearly a lot more study of Ancient Vedas is required. The current generation will be surprised as to how advanced the texts really are in terms of astronomy. Ancient pole stars, other stars are mentioned and provides a reliable dating of time. Many have pointed out how ridiculous the current dating system is based on characters like Jesus and every four years have to add another day in February month. Everything is cyclical in nature which ancient India understood and forms the basis of time keeping.

A TRS show in which Rupa Bhaty explains..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO3wwgttihw

[Cyrano]

[bala]

The British did cause a kind of soul searching in Hindu society. It did result in calls for reform, and it did result in a new framing of what it means to be Hindu and what Hinduism itself is,' says Manu S. Pillai writer of Gods, guns, and Missionaries, The Making of the Modern Hindu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP5wRCAaO68

Both the dominant Abrahamic religions have vowed to convert 'heathens/kafirs' into their so-called one and only true way. Bharat is an unfinished business for them.

// I have shown how Abrahamic "Gods" does not stand up to logic, especially Vedic Logic. The Term "God" is from BhagavadGita 4.24 हुतम् hutam (offered) became gutam in german and gott in dutch and finally god in Angrez.

[bala]

Vivaan Karulkar a young kid, who was atheist, and in 2023 discovered that Vedas forms the basis of scientific knowledge in western nations from Galileo, Newton etc. He did his own independent research being skeptical. What he found is profound according to him. Every discovery made by Western bigwigs (100+) in science, he identified an equivalent verse(s) in Vedas which introduce the concept. We all know that Knowledge went from India to the West via Arabia and also directly to the West after the 16th century.

Vivaan Karulkar published a book with a disclaimer if anyone can disprove what he found, he is willing to withdraw that stmt. His book is in the NASA library! Well worth watching, the interviewer, Anushka Jagtiani asks very tough questions, challenging his claims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRT26DXV4FA

// BTW my own research is in alignment with what young Vivaan found. Kudos to a young mind!

[RCase]

Which version of Ramayana is Authentic?

Interesting discussion about the versions of the Ramayana.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1OoRNezZ24

[bala]

Indus Script Decoded: Yajnadevam Reveals How Sanskrit Became The Core Language

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xr0mbtMlzk

[Rakesh]

https://x.com/IndiaTales7/status/1872241621301186707 ---> A twitter thread on the unique beauty of India.

[bala]

Are Druzes and Yazidis Sanatanis?

An in-depth look at their history, culture and customs, by PGurus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEgZIY4Onn0

Druzes believe in one Brahman and reincarnation. They accept prophets like Jesus and Mohammad. Their own prophet Jethro visited India.The Druze reject other religions (christianity and islam) than their own and their roots are in Egypt and Sumeria. Druze consider themselves "Muwahido" which translates to eternal religion similary to Sanatana Dharma. The Druze are found in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and other nations.

Yezdis are kurdish speaking in Northern Iraq. They worship the Peacock Angel Tawusi Melek (Lord Skanda). They also worship serpents and fire, both sacred in Sanatana Dharma. Yezdis have endured 70 genocides. The word Yezdi is cognate of Sanskrit Yajata (worthy of worship) and in old Persian yazata. Yezdis call themselves as Daseni/Dawasen which is Devayasni in Sanskrit.

[bala]

This is a more indepth interview of Yajnadevam (Bharath Rao) by Abhijit Chavda of Indus script decipher using crytography and Claude Shannon's Information theory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THOVHFVSN6w

Yajnadevam (Bharath Rao) discusses his groundbreaking work on deciphering the Indus script (AKA Harappan script or Sarasvati-Sindhu script), which is central to the debate surrounding the origins of Hinduism and Sanskrit. Bharath Rao, who has a background in engineering and cryptography, explains how he approached the problem by modeling the script as a cryptogram, utilizing information theory to validate his findings.

Throughout the conversation, he challenges established narratives, particularly the Aryan Invasion Theory, asserting that Sanskrit and Hinduism are indigenous to India and date back thousands of years. The episode covers the methodology used in decipherment, including pattern recognition and regular expressions, as well as the implications of the findings for understanding ancient Indian civilization. Yajnadevam emphasizes the continuity of culture from the Harappan period through to later Indian history, arguing that contemporary Hinduism can be traced back to these ancient roots.

00:00 Introduction and background of the decipherment
01:15 Early interest in cryptograms during engineering
02:31 Initial approach to Indus script problem
04:30 Understanding regular expressions and patterns
07:41 Timeline of the decipherment work
09:29 History of cryptography and Caesar cipher
13:48 Shannon's theory of cryptography
15:42 Historical examples of code breaking
17:31 Methodology of solving cryptograms
20:27 Pattern matching and set intersection process
28:06 Challenges with Sanskrit vocabulary
34:06 Timeline of symbol decipherment
37:58 Discovery of grammatical readability
40:35 Explaining unicity distance
45:47 Certainty of the decipherment
47:34 Initial expectations and discoveries
51:53 Religious aspects and deity references
54:26 Connection to Gupta era seals
57:41 Iconography and inscription relationships
59:47 Missing information in inscriptions
1:00:24 Religious Content in Inscriptions
1:01:41 Place Names and Cities
1:03:09 Federation of City States
1:04:33 Symbol of Two Blackbucks
1:06:28 Unicorn and Royal Symbols
1:07:51 Ancient Symbols to Modern India
1:09:40 Evolution of Writing Systems
1:12:22 Timeline of Indus Script Usage
1:20:13 Key Findings About Indian History
1:23:26 Types of Sanskrit Vocabulary Found
1:26:01 Language Families in Ancient India
1:28:36 Unity of Ancient Indian Civilization
1:31:24 Future Research Plans
1:34:31 Addressing Academic Criticisms
1:39:40 Plans for Publishing Findings
1:45:04 Origins of Hinduism
1:51:22 Problems with Migration Theory
1:58:50 Indo-European Language Family Discussion
2:08:47 Closing Remarks

// Good YT to get familiar with computer science topics like cyrptography basics.
// Bharat Rao is from Karnataka. He used Perl programming language (around 100 lines)
// and regular expressions. He has put his code in github.
// He used a downloadable dictionary for Sanskrit. Decline forms of words he had to add.
// The Indus seals resemble brahmi script. Indian culture involves things like
// Deities, Vocative form of word, imperative form of word, prayer, requests.
// He got Rudra as presiding deity of yajna. He took six months to decipher the symbols.
// His first Shock: when he found it is Sanskrit. Shock # 2: grammatical readability of largest
// inscription 70 characters.

// BTW we need to build a tombstone for the likes of Michael Witzel of Haaarrvaaard Univ.
// Just to confuse the issue, The TN DMK Stalin dude is giving $1 M prize to anyone
// who can prove IVC script is Tamizh! good luck!

Yajnadevam (Bharath Rao) has created a website which has the original INDUS Script and its Sanskrit translation. Please take a look at the work put into decipherment of Indus script. He has translated around 40% of all INDUS inscriptions and is working on the remaining 60%. So one man has managed to translate the entire INDUS Script into Sanskrit - the original mother language of India/Bharat. Thank you Bharat Rao!

https://indusscript.net/

Also this ppt presentation by Yajnadevam (Bharath Rao) 11 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-M8IoAlaGI

For the decipherment paper see:
https://www.academia.edu/78867798/A_cry ... dus_Script

[vsunder]

These are some notes written by me for colleagues who were teaching an undergraduate course on the History of Mathematics. These notes supplemented the part on the contributions of Hindu mathematicians of antiquity. This is the first part of my notes. It deals with the motivations from Indian music and poetry that lead to a question on partition of numbers, which then leads to the Fibonacci numbers. Complete and elementary proofs are presented in the notes. Fibonacci arrived at the numbers via his question on population growth (posed by him about rabbit populations) which leads to the same recurrence relation in my notes.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BO8mdb ... drive_link


The second part of my notes deal with Brahmagupta's work on rationality problems as applied by him to cyclic quadrilaterals. The notes also prove his famous formula for the area of a cyclic quadrilateral which generalizes Heron of Alexandria's formula for the area of a triangle. A triangle is a degenerate cyclic quadrilateral and so Heron's formula is a corollary of the one by Brahmagupta. Brahmagupta's work on rationality problems associated to cyclic quadrilaterals is thus seen as a question in modern Arithmetical Algebraic Geometry. The second part is not posted here and was also used in the History of Mathematics course.
I have visited Pisa countless times to collaborate as for example the recent breakthrough work on Rayleigh-Benard convection with my collaborator at the Scuola Normale Superieure at Pisa. Fibonacci is buried in the IL Cimiterio di Pisa which is the cemetery next to the cathedral and leaning tower. The cemetery is decorated by murals. Here is a small video I made of a visit to Fibonacci's monument and grave. Fibonacci introduced Hindu numerals of place value and decimals to the western world which proved a boon as manipulating using Roman symbols for numbers is cumbersome. This happened just as the Renaissance began, leading to an explosion of mathematical works.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-YNKJA ... drive_link

I have studied the Surya Siddhanta too and find it a remarkable document.

[mukkan]

Yajnadevam's IVC decipherment has been shared multiple times here. But in X, there are many challenging his claims. Until it gets reviewed by experts, it cannot be taken seriously.

Below are some links that gives a different perspective
https://www.quora.com/What-do-you-think ... /Ram-Abloh

https://www.quora.com/Recently-a-YouTub ... -Rajagopal

Critical review of Yajnadevam's ill-founded "cryptanalytic decipherment of the Indus script" (and his preposterous claim that the Indus script represents Sanskrit)
https://www.reddit.com/r/IndoEuropean/c ... llfounded/


by https://x.com/Nash_Siddiqui



by https://x.com/kalyan97

[bala]

^^ Please don't clutter this thread with unsubstantiated claims and people who have been at this topic for ages with no known backing for their claims other than I thought about this cool angle. They have gone on a bitching rampage on social media. Yajnadevam (Bharath Rao)Indus script decipher using crytography and Claude Shannon's Information theory is a sound basis at least mathematically. If there are other languages that can be proven using crytography and Claude Shannon's Information theory then the person needs to put it into a paper.

The problem with languages is that without Rosetta stone you are shooting in the blind. The peer reviewers for his paper are mostly the Aryan - Dravidian theory folks who are loathed to admitting anything other than their favorite inbuilt biases. So far as comp science goes Yajnadevam (Bharath Rao) is on solid grounds.

[mukkan]

I was also excited to see application of cryptogrpahy in deciphering IVC. But seems like it was false hope. Please try to read all the details in the above reviews/videos and counter it instead of making a blanket statement. I am more than happy to see IVC deciphered.

Below is another paper from 2010 that summarizes many cryptogrpahic attempts to decipher IVC.
https://www.academia.edu/21392569/Crypt ... cipherment

So far as comp science goes Yajnadevam (Bharath Rao) is on solid grounds.

[Amber G.]

I was also excited to see application of cryptogrpahy in deciphering IVC. But seems like it was false hope. Please try to read all the details in the above reviews/videos and counter it instead of making a blanket statement. I am more than happy to see IVC deciphered.

Below is another paper from 2010 that summarizes many cryptogrpahic attempts to decipher IVC.
https://www.academia.edu/21392569/Crypt ... cipherment

So far as comp science goes Yajnadevam (Bharath Rao) is on solid grounds.

Thanks for the post(s). I commented about this about 3 months ago here: viewtopic.php?p=2632710#p2632710
I haven't had chance to did in deeper or follow that topic (or yet read your links). Quick search shows a peer reviewed paper is still not there. Anyone has a reference to published paper. (I have access to what I have mentioned before). Thanks.

Also what is the basis of saying this "So far as comp science goes Yajnadevam (Bharath Rao) is on solid grounds." ?

[bala]

I was also excited to see application of cryptogrpahy in deciphering IVC. But seems like it was false hope. Please try to read all the details in the above reviews/videos and counter it instead of making a blanket statement. I am more than happy to see IVC deciphered.

Sorry, I am not going to waste my time on opinions. The Onus is on you to show why Yajnadevam (Bharath Rao) is wrong. If you can write a paper and show how he is wrong I will look at your paper.

Below is another paper from 2010 that summarizes many cryptogrpahic attempts to decipher IVC.
https://www.academia.edu/21392569/Crypt ... cipherment

Another failed attempt to use cryptography. The key is to use Claude Shannon's information theory.

[bala]

Nilesh Oak vs Vedveer Arya, both great researchers in their own right, is a great discussion. Two well known recent Indian scholars (Vidwaans) debating calmly without disrespecting each other is heartening compared to shouting/brushing of each other that we notice (due to McCauley edu?) in modern times. The 3000 BC to 5000 BC puts this into Indus Valley times, which Bharat Rao's decipherment claims is in sanskrit. All of this makes sense. Hopefully one day we Indians will take pride with the antiquity of our great culture (tis the greatest IMO) and zero in on more clarity of the glorious past.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1wAM7P4s0A

I am not going to get into who is right or wrong, but the free spirited discussion, opens doors to more enlightenment and understanding. This free form discussion can reconcile the differences based on the methods used. We can one day have a definite answer to many of the questions raised on dating antiquity.

[Amber G.]

As of now, I don't find that Yajnadevam's ( Bharath Rao's) paper has been published in a peer-reviewed academic journal. The lack of formal peer review makes many of us to approach his claims with caution. The Indus script has long been a subject of scholarly debate, with over a hundred decipherment attempts since the 1920s, none of which have achieved consensus.

Also, Tamil Nadu's Chief Minister M. K. Stalin announced a $1 million prize for anyone who can successfully decipher the script, highlighting the ongoing mystery surrounding it. There is no evidence that he has claimed that prize.

Given the historical challenges in deciphering the Indus script and the absence of peer-reviewed validation, I remain skeptical of new claims until they undergo rigorous academic scrutiny.

As said - Yajnadevam, has claimed to have deciphered the Indus script, suggesting it represents an early form of Sanskrit. He has detailed his findings in a paper titled "Deciphering the Indus Script as a Cryptogram," which he has shared on platforms like Academia.edu. Additionally, he has discussed his work in interviews and videos. I had not (was not interested) watched these video's and *very* briefly seen the paper (not found very interesting - hence did not read it critically). None of my colleagues, I know, who are more knowledgeable in the field and who were excited by the news have given any positive critique.

[bala]

Just documenting a Cambodia series by PGurus on the influence of Indian culture in South Asia.

Cambodia Series Episode 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4XLJpJmVH8
Cambodia Series Episode 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnhfhZ6wcHU
Cambodia Series Episode 3 https://youtu.be/GZ9J17Y9g7A
Cambodia Series Episode 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it63QZeHlFA

[Amber G.]

Okay - A slightly different take..

Do you know is the person in a Saree walking with two Nobel laureates?
Where is this place? When? Who are the other two Nobel laureates?
(Hint: She is a particle physicist)

[Amber G.]

Okay - A slightly different take..

Do you know is the person in a Saree walking with two Nobel laureates?
Where is this place? When? Who are the other two Nobel laureates?
(Hint: She is a particle physicist)

She is particle physicist Thayyoor K. Radha.
The picture taken at a summer school in Trieste, Italy. TK Radha is with Julian Schwinger and Abdus Salam.

Radha who had a brief but impressive career in the 1960s. After here PhD in IMSc, Chennai Oppenheimer invited her for a visit to IAS (Princeton). She then did a postdoc with L. Schiff in Stanford.

Radha had written papers with the likes of Marshak and Schiff, and eventually received an Assistant Professorship at U of Alberta. But she took a break from her career to care for her child (and eventually dropped out of physics academia)

Sharing from Princeton AIS Archives "Rediscovering One of the Institute's First Women of Color"
(My first visit to Princeton - as a very young person - was in late 1960's, so many of the names are familiar and interesting to me. I hope you enjoy the article)

[mukkan]

Thanks Amber G for nice summary.
I have been following Yajnadevam from the time news came out few months back. Watched the QnA part of many of his presentations. I have given up after intial excitement. I agree that it needs to go through rigorous scrutiny by experts (extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence). Until then it cannot be taken seriously.
Here are some of discussions in X that some of you may find interesting.
https://x.com/khoomeik/status/1882058162108613025
https://x.com/khoomeik/status/1882398001454551173
https://x.com/arya_amsha/status/1882101961203572784
https://x.com/ray4_y1/status/1880639075419553947

this my last post on this, I shared many links in this post and earlier posts as BRF has lot of experts in many fields like you.

As of now, I don't find that Yajnadevam's ( Bharath Rao's) paper has been published in a peer-reviewed academic journal. The lack of formal peer review makes many of us to approach his claims with caution. The Indus script has long been a subject of scholarly debate, with over a hundred decipherment attempts since the 1920s, none of which have achieved consensus.

Also, Tamil Nadu's Chief Minister M. K. Stalin announced a $1 million prize for anyone who can successfully decipher the script, highlighting the ongoing mystery surrounding it. There is no evidence that he has claimed that prize.

Given the historical challenges in deciphering the Indus script and the absence of peer-reviewed validation, I remain skeptical of new claims until they undergo rigorous academic scrutiny.

As said - Yajnadevam, has claimed to have deciphered the Indus script, suggesting it represents an early form of Sanskrit. He has detailed his findings in a paper titled "Deciphering the Indus Script as a Cryptogram," which he has shared on platforms like Academia.edu. Additionally, he has discussed his work in interviews and videos. I had not (was not interested) watched these video's and *very* briefly seen the paper (not found very interesting - hence did not read it critically). None of my colleagues, I know, who are more knowledgeable in the field and who were excited by the news have given any positive critique.

[bala]

Nilesh Oak take on peer research journals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCGIDTjL6H0

Nilesh Oak's take about how peer-reviewed journals act as gatekeepers and how their publishing processes can be inefficient and bureaucratic. Nilesh Oak shares his experience of publishing a paper in one such journal with Dr. Anil Narayanan. He also sheds light on teaching practices and the current state of research in this field.

[RCase]

Well, 'Peer reviewed' historians gave us wonderful theories about:
Aryan Invasion
Aurangzeb was benevolent to hindus by building temples and led a very devout and austere life writing Qurans
Humayun prayed to Allah to save his son's life and instead of his. After which he tumbled down the stairs and died.
Tipu Sultan was very kind to Hindus
Akbar the 'Great' believed in 'Vasudev Kutumbakam'
Ashoka the Great became very peaceful after the Kalinga battle
Arabic numerals and decimal number system were invented by the arabs
Pythagoras theorem, trigonometry etc. were inventions of the Greeks.

We were ready to accept all these garbage theories in our NCERT textbooks, of course authored and blessed by renowned 'peer reviewed' academics.

I am of the opinion that there needs to be critical analyses of any theories that are put out and not be beholden to only the western mindset and yardstick of acceptance. We have seen enough of Harvard, U Chicago, Rutgers professors who are nothing but charlatans hiding behind their titles and 'peer reviewed' garbage.

[Vayutuvan]

@RCase gaaru,
Vasudev It is one of the two

vasudhaiva or vasudhEva

vasudha = the world/Earth
Eva/aiva = one
vasudha + Eva = vasudhEva
vasudha + aiva = vasudhaiva

[RCase]

@RCase gaaru,
Vasudev It is one of the two

vasudhaiva or vasudhEva

vasudha = the world/Earth
Eva/aiva = one
vasudha + Eva = vasudhEva
vasudha + aiva = vasudhaiva

^^^ Thanks. Stand corrected!... auto spelling problems.

[Amber G.]

Thanks Amber G for nice summary.
I have been following Yajnadevam from the time news came out few months back. Watched the QnA part of many of his presentations. I have given up after intial excitement. I agree that it needs to go through rigorous scrutiny by experts (extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence). Until then it cannot be taken seriously.
Here are some of discussions in X that some of you may find interesting.
https://x.com/khoomeik/status/1882058162108613025
https://x.com/khoomeik/status/1882398001454551173
https://x.com/arya_amsha/status/1882101961203572784
https://x.com/ray4_y1/status/1880639075419553947

this my last post on this, I shared many links in this post and earlier posts as BRF has lot of experts in many fields like you.

As of now, I don't find that Yajnadevam's ( Bharath Rao's) paper has been published in a peer-reviewed academic journal. The lack of formal peer review makes many of us to approach his claims with caution. The Indus script has long been a subject of scholarly debate, with over a hundred decipherment attempts since the 1920s, none of which have achieved consensus.

Also, Tamil Nadu's Chief Minister M. K. Stalin announced a $1 million prize for anyone who can successfully decipher the script, highlighting the ongoing mystery surrounding it. There is no evidence that he has claimed that prize.

Given the historical challenges in deciphering the Indus script and the absence of peer-reviewed validation, I remain skeptical of new claims until they undergo rigorous academic scrutiny.

As said - Yajnadevam, has claimed to have deciphered the Indus script, suggesting it represents an early form of Sanskrit. He has detailed his findings in a paper titled "Deciphering the Indus Script as a Cryptogram," which he has shared on platforms like Academia.edu. Additionally, he has discussed his work in interviews and videos. I had not (was not interested) watched these video's and *very* briefly seen the paper (not found very interesting - hence did not read it critically). None of my colleagues, I know, who are more knowledgeable in the field and who were excited by the news have given any positive critique.

Thank you for your thoughtful post! When I get time, I may look at those links...but nice to have them here. Thanks.

I agree with you that Yajnadevam's claims, as exciting as they may be, need to undergo rigorous scrutiny by experts before they can be taken seriously. As Carl Sagan once said, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." This is a crucial principle in science, and it's essential that we adhere to it to ensure that our understanding of the world is based on empirical evidence rather than speculation or misinformation.

In my teaching and mentorship of younger generation - I also often use Asimov's quote, "the false notion that .... means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge' is not good for science." This is a timely reminder that, in the scientific community, expertise and evidence should carry more weight than personal opinions or biases. I hope that more people will approach scientific claims with a critical and nuanced perspective, recognizing the importance of rigorous testing and validation.

[Amber G.]

Know your India:
India has changed in last decade:

A country near $4 trillion economy with expected growth of 8%.
A country that builds 7-8 airports and 1-2 metro systems per year.
A Country that builds 28 km highway and 12 km railway track daily.
A Country which is moving towards Digitization at massive scale with highest recorded digital financial transaction.
A Country with 3rd Largest Startup ecosystem.
A Country whoes University and Colleges have doubled in last 10 years.
A Country which is prolific manufacturer of vaccine and medicine
<video- 2min - worth watching

[NRao]

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Somanathapura Temple in Karnataka, a short distance from Bluru (I have visited this temple), is an amazing temple replete with pillars that were turned by a lathe device. In this YT Praveen Mohan explores the temple and notes some hugely scientific observations on pillars, ceilings and much more. Worth a dekho if you have the time.

This ancient temple in India has stunning ceiling carvings that look like parts of advanced machines, even though they were made over 700 years ago. Some say these ceilings could rotate, and the perfectly shaped pillars hint at the use of ancient tools like lathe machines. The patterns closely resemble visuals of sound vibrations, making us wonder — were these designs just art, or could they be blueprints of forgotten technology and healing sounds?

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Continuing with Somanathapura temple in Karnataka, do you know how many statues were taken by the Britshits to museums? Find out in this YT

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The British museum should be made to return statues and artifacts that were stolen from India during war and colonization. The British believe that they are entitled to ownership of these stolen objects, when they are not, and these priceless relics should be returned to the Indian temples where they were taken from. That includes India's diamonds and gold wealth, much of them belonging to temples of India.

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Sanjeev Sanyal attempts to revive ancient stiched ship technology