India Nuclear News and Discussion 4 July 2011

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A Sharma wrote:‘We can allay the fears'
Interview with Srikumar Banerjee, Chairman, Atomic Energy Commission, and Secretary, Department of Atomic Energy.
From above linked article:
Responding to a question, Dr. Banerjee says:
. . .
The State government will conduct the meetings. Our panel will answer the questions. If there are questions which need further studies, the experts on the panel will collect the questions and perhaps have a second session to answer them. So I don't consider it a deadlock. Nothing has happened to call it a deadlock. There will always be an open discussion on points, and it is our responsibility and duty to satisfy the queries coming up in the minds of people. The best way [to go about this] is to organise an open meeting near Kudankulam. When talking specifically of the Kudankulam plant, there will be specific questions, and we can address each one of them. If people are unhappy or not satisfied, let us try to answer them again with facts and figures and all the tests that have been done, which are backed by a huge amount of information. Through that, we will be able to allay the people's fears.
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Keeping the enormous public interest on the topic in view, I wish and do hope that the proceedings of the committee will be televised live, all over India.

On another note, a doubt arises in my mind. The word "independent" has been an overworked one with regard to the KKNP Safety Issues. Not believing DAE, the State Govt. passed a resolution in the Legislature demanding immediate stoppage of work in KKNP. Under the circumstances, can a group of persons constituted by the selfsame Govt. be considered "independent"?
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I am just a lurker to this thread. But the one thing, that is difficult to understand for me is jst how did the situation reach this level where a plant that had been under construction for 13 years starts facing a blockade just when it is about to go critical.
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I am sorry to say that the KKM issue has seen m,any a snake coming out of its hole,to quote from Chairman Mao.Suddenly,after 40 years of operation,some TN politico bufoons want Kalpakkam closed down too! How did these worthy citizens of TN suddenly wake up one day and discover that nuclear plants,which have been providing them with electricity for decades are now suddenly the equivalent of a leper colony? There's an old saying at the race course,"money makes the mare go"! And boy,this is what is making these mares and mules behind the kKM protests go indeed!

As Ramanna has asked the big Q,Quo Bono,"who benefits?" Well,the answer is very clear as has been amply illustrated in the thread and the foreign hands behind the KKM agitation,manipulating their pawns and mules have in fact done the nation a great favour by exposing their quislings and fifth-columnists in the state of TN and their diabolic anti-national agenda.Time ,as the great helmsman said ,to start lopping off the heads of the snakes.
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koodankulam protest spurs anti-nuke stirs across country
http://www.asianage.com/india/koodankul ... ountry-083

Bring a white paper as the protestors demand, commission the nuclear plant and produce the electricity!

Koodankulam protesters demand white paper
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/koodankulam- ... 0-118.html
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Neela wrote:
NO I do not think of Joshvajohn as a troll. I only find his sense of trust in matters of national interest weirdly oriented.
His underlying concerns are valid but as the hakim saab said, indians seem to not to trust Indians on matters of scientific nature.

Deracination will do that. It will turn the gaze westwards. Which is why what was done to South Korea was done to make it west friendly
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Oh, so now the courts won't do, now they want a white paper is it?

If joshvajohn doesn't respond to the posts addressed to him then I don't see how he is anything but a troll.
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it's good that it has been stooped. I wish every imported nuclear plant deal is stopped. all these reactors would have to put under safeguards as per the
nuclear deal, which is unacceptable to me. India would be putting maximum number of reactors under IAEA watchdog. no nuclear weapons state has even put
10% of it's civilian nuclear reactors under IAEA safeguards even in case of those reactors for which they import fuel from other countries.
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PratikDas wrote:Oh, so now the courts won't do, now they want a white paper is it?

If joshvajohn doesn't respond to the posts addressed to him the I don't see how he is anything but a troll.
Beginning to think he is a troll now.
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sukhish wrote:it's good that it has been stooped. I wish every imported nuclear plant deal is stopped. all these reactors would have to put under safeguards as per the
nuclear deal, which is unacceptable to me. India would be putting maximum number of reactors under IAEA watchdog. no nuclear weapons state has even put
10% of it's civilian nuclear reactors under IAEA safeguards even in case of those reactors for which they import fuel from other countries.
first thing , it has not been stopped... nor will it ever be stopped...

second thing ,

civillian reactors of all countries (including khanate) are under IAEA... That is no problem..since we are any case not going to make weapons out of the civillian reactors in any case , let the iaea people come and have chai biskoot there periodically..in our weapons facilities iaea can't even put their toenails in..
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Pratyush wrote:I am just a lurker to this thread. But the one thing, that is difficult to understand for me is jst how did the situation reach this level where a plant that had been under construction for 13 years starts facing a blockade just when it is about to go critical.

The press coverage of Fukushima reactor disaster is one new thing.
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For me I do not need to respond to some of your useless and personal arguments!

Two things I have made it clear - first accusations made against the protest groups saying that they have received foreign money has yet to be proved. Until it is proved even if a scientist or anyone says I will not be convinced. If a court judge says they had evidence then it is fine. The congress party keeps on saying manythings about people who protest not only here but in many places including West Bengal and other places not many of them are proved yet.

Second regarding the Nuclear plant, I have made it clear that I am in favour the plant or its operations. Here a junk of people who keeps things confusing and making pointless arguments. For me the governments should think how to convince the local people about the safety of the plant and also about some of the serious issues that the scientists themselves keep contradicting in public as one may see in the previous article that I have quoted. Also the govt should focus not only convincing people but also commissioning the plant in a way that will start supplying electricity. It is not only the contradictory claims that should be stopped but also some of the scientists' and also local people's concerns should be addressed and cleared in a dialogic way possible. If this does not work then the govt should go ahead.

In my previous postings I asked for a white paper on the nuclear plant so that scientists contradictions will be sorted and made clear to the public about their concerns as well. These distinctions are not made by some respondents who are trying to either defend Cong govt desperately, or are not reading the articles and posting properly and look for chances of calling someone with some words.
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sum wrote:
When a INC govt says this to a church led and organised protest, there is surely something going on:
PMO sees foreign hand


If the same had been said by a NDA govt, it would have been dismissed here by some folks as communal RSS govt showing anti-Cristian bias etc but that cant be alleged when INC says this!!

the people that INC decided to give shelter to, will eventually swallow INC. seriously, these "protests" are the first sign. when you see DMK and INC making statements against these "protests", we know that the "sponsorship" has gone full circle. and the vultures unleashed by power-hungry fools will come back to eat the said fools. it's a sign of things to come.
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joshvajohn wrote:For me I do not need to respond to some of your useless and personal arguments!

Two things I have made it clear - first accusations made against the protest groups saying that they have received foreign money has yet to be proved. Until it is proved even if a scientist or anyone says I will not be convinced. If a court judge says they had evidence then it is fine. The congress party keeps on saying manythings about people who protest not only here but in many places including West Bengal and other places not many of them are proved yet.

Second regarding the Nuclear plant, I have made it clear that I am in favour the plant or its operations. Here a junk of people who keeps things confusing and making pointless arguments. For me the governments should think how to convince the local people about the safety of the plant and also about some of the serious issues that the scientists themselves keep contradicting in public as one may see in the previous article that I have quoted. Also the govt should focus not only convincing people but also commissioning the plant in a way that will start supplying electricity. It is not only the contradictory claims that should be stopped but also some of the scientists' and also local people's concerns should be addressed and cleared in a dialogic way possible. If this does not work then the govt should go ahead.

In my previous postings I asked for a white paper on the nuclear plant so that scientists contradictions will be sorted and made clear to the public about their concerns as well. These distinctions are not made by some respondents who are trying to either defend Cong govt desperately, or are not reading the articles and posting properly and look for chances of calling someone with some words.
This is neither a personal attack nor a useless argument. This is directly questioning the motives of the so called protestors. There are motives here that go well beyond operational safety and you are avoiding recognition of this fact. Stop avoiding the argument and answer what this has to do with operational safety.
Prabu wrote:Koodankulam officials bewildered by the questions raised by the (christian church supported!) protestors

News from popular Tamil daily DINA MALAR. All clasified details and political rhetoric from these innocent fishermen that too questions in Hindhi and Malayalam confirms suspision that this is an act of foreign elements and elements outside the tamilnadu state is trying to scutle the operation when it is about to begin!
Rough translation.
The 25 of 50 questions raised reportedly by innocent fishermen(!) includes, the location of reactor,technical details, methods of filling uranium ! detailed operational report, country of origin of uranium being bought, recycle technology(!), route of uranium transportation(!), cost of project and complete details, the ill effects of this project when considering the good(!) relationship with china, pakistan, and sri lanka & maldives (!!!!!!), the details of agrement between countries suppliying nukclear fuel(!!!!), whether any (military use of) atomic wepons wll be produced or not ??!!!! etc.
P.S. Interestingly majority on the readers are aginst these anti national protestors and firmly with the GOI to arrest these religious idiots and take the India to move forward with its economic agenda ! Tamilnadu's literacy rate improvement has its own advantage ! Good !
This garbage was all yours, joshvajohn:
joshvajohn wrote:milindc Indian pm is cannot be our pm because he is not sharing concerns of people in TamilNadu. I wanted to claim India to be my/our country but not the present primeminister as our PM. He has lost credibility of being a PM and should give way for next generation. but some of you guys when you cannot argue you try to find mistakes and personalise them.
You have earned the right to be attacked with this garbage. The "concerns of the people of Tamil Nadu" have to do with China, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Maldives?
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Meanwhile...
....foreign agencies directly bribe our 'leaders' to get the laws they want passed. No questions asked. This for equipment that has 0% chance of failure per NPCIL. Ding Dongs. Protect yourselves folks. The man above has sold his soul already.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/a ... 633545.ece
The rules, which were notified on November 11, were made public on Wednesday on the eve of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's visit to Bali for a regional summit where he is also set to meet U.S. President Barack Obama. They are, however, unlikely to satisfy U.S. objections even as they trigger criticism at home for what the Opposition will see as a dilution of Parliament's legislative intent in enacting a tough liability law last year.
Right in the middle of deepavali too..
The new rules do not directly affect 17(b) but open a door for its dilution by giving suppliers the option to piggy-back on 17(a) — which penalises a supplier if he had accepted liability in a written contract — and thereby limit their exposure in the event of faulty equipment to accidents which occur in the first five years of the reactor's operation. The rules do this by specifying that the provision for the right of recourse under 17(a) “shall be for the duration of initial licence issued under the Atomic Energy (Radiation protection) Rules of 2004, or the product liability period, whichever is longer.” The 2004 rules state in Section 9 that every licence runs for a period of five years and the 2011 rules define “product liability period” as the period for which a supplier accepts liability for an accident caused by defective equipment in a contract. By this fix, Indian officials will tell the U.S. that an American vendor can limit its exposure for an accident to five years and Rs. 1,500 crore.
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JJ anna,

Accusations about poor SDRE 30% Christian community from GOI and assorted 'high' functionaries is always true. Evidence not required.

Accusations against NaMo by same bunch is always false.

Such is the nature of dharma in this land. :roll: :(
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Theo, perhaps you and JJ should first decide if this is a religious issue or not. Thanks.
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The other shoe just dropped.

If the aussie government can be arm twisted, what hope for "fishermen" in kundankulam??


US influenced Oz U-turn on uranium exports to India: report
The paper said it was understood that Australian and US officials have been involved in intense strategic discussions about India and the Indian Ocean for several months.

Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd has been in India this week for a meeting on Indian Ocean co-operation and Defence Minister Stephen Smith is expected to visit India early next month to boost bilateral defence co-operation.

The Obama administration has been pursuing a closer partnership with India and considers Australia an integral

part of its strategy, the paper said.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said early this month that the US-Australian alliance had been transformed from "an Asia-Pacific alliance to an Indo-Pacific alliance".

The paper said the US has reconfigured its military commands so that the US Pacific Command embraces responsibility not only for the Pacific but for India and the Indian Ocean.

This is in line with sustained argument from Australian officials and ministers over many months urging the Americans to consider the Pacific and Indian oceans as a single unified theatre of operations, it said, adding in response, the Americans have urged deeper engagement with India for Australia but this required the end of the ban on uranium exports.

Discussions have taken place in several forums, including the AUSMIN ministerial meetings and the joint working party formed by the US and Australia to feed into the US Global Force Posture Review, due to report soon.

This is expected to encompass both the greater US presence in northern Australia, to be announced in Darwin tomorrow, and a higher US priority for the Indian Ocean.

Gillard yesterday said selling uranium to India would boost the economy, create more jobs and strengthen ties with the world's largest democracy as it attempted to meet its target of supplying 40 per cent of its electricity through nuclear generation by 2050.

She also pointed to the US-India civil nuclear agreement of 2008, which lifted the "de facto international ban" on the sale of uranium to India.

"Given that change in diplomatic circumstances around the world, for us to refuse to budge is all pain and no gain. And I believe our national platform should recognise that reality," she said.
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Finally,very welcome action is being taken against these cassocked quislings,who take their orders from vested interests ,whose sole aim is to scrap the N-Liability bill and dismantle the Indo-Russian N-cooperation.The manner in which even Eelamists like Vaiko are being roped into the protests indicates a diabolic desperation on the part of the foreign hand to sabotage KKM at any cost.Just days ago 21kg of gold was caught smuggled into India allegedly by the family of one of the assassination team of Rajiv.The lumping together of Eelamists,Catholic Church,CSI,EJs and others ,show the reach of the foreign hand.We must be grateful to them too for showing us their reach and penetration especially in the sensitive border state of Tamilnadu.The foll. report exposes the insidious acts of the so-called men of God who are spearheading the local protests.

The use of church premises,meant to spread the word of God is being abused by these charlatans in cassocks,whose political motives have now been exposed.Why are there no protests in St.Peter's Square in the Vatican led by the Holy father himself against N-plants,or at St.Paul's in London led by our corruption-rotten bishops of the CSI flock? We know that the EJs take their orders directly from the US,that's par for the course. It took centuries for the Vatican to admit that Gallileo,persecuted by the church, was right,so what credibility do its southern clerics,now Einsteins and Newtons,"cassock and chappal N-experts" ,press-ganging in protesters like political parties for rallies,and dishing out banknotes and biryani have?

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Mad ... 633755.ece
“Church premises used for stir against Kudankulam plant”

As some of the churches are being used to disseminate anti-Kudankulam Nuclear Power Project (KKNPP) messages, urging the people to join the ongoing protest against the nuclear power project, the police here have started registering cases against priests who either allow or indulge in such activities.

After the St. Lourdes Church premises at Idinthakarai was converted into anti-KKNPP protest venue, a number of priests from Roman Catholic and Church of South India and even the Bishops of both the Churches met the protesters to express their solidarity with the agitating public, mostly Christians, without police permission.

“Since using the premises of a place of worship to air anti-governmental campaign is a crime, cases are being registered against those indulge in such activities,” a police official here said.

Meanwhile, police investigation has also revealed that the “anti-KKNPP and anti-government” campaign being conducted through the churches have spread up to Valliyoor, from where the people are being mobilised for the ongoing protest at Idinthakarai.

During the sermon or towards the end of the Holy Mass in some of the churches in the southern parts of the district, the priests appeal to the public to raise their voice against the upcoming nuclear power project and some of them even urge the public to revolt against the power generation programme “threatening the life and livelihood of the people”.

Similar sentiments are propagated through the ‘Anbiyams'.

The ‘Anbiyams' are small Christian communities functioning in every parish, which meet periodically. They also discuss issues the community face, and find solutions for them.

After the protest against KKNPP intensified, the appeals being made by parish priests to protest against the nuclear power project are discussed at the meetings of the ‘Anbiyams', a senior officer said.

“As per the decision taken in our ‘Anbiyam', we are now going to Idinthakarai in vans to participate in the ongoing relay fast against KKNPP,” said a Valliyoor-based retired teacher, even as her husband, also a retired post-graduate assistant, was stopped by his son from participating in the agitation on Wednesday.

Police sources said 76 cases have been registered so far against those conducting anti-KKNPP protests and a few political leaders, including Marumalrchi Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam general secretary Vaiko, Pattali Makkal Katchi president G.K. Mani, Viduthalai Chirthaigal Katchhi general secretary Thol. Thirumavalavan and social activist Medha Patkar for participating in the protest organised without proper permission from the police.

“Cases were registered against RC Bishop of Tuticorin Diocese Yvon Ambroise and other priests for the same offence,” the police officer said.
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Don't make this into a religious issue folks.. Get some things straight , I have always said the following--

1) It is a commercial issue , some foreign powers don't want the plant to be there..

2) Church is being used by the foreign powers as Christianity is a dominant religion in that area..If any other religion was dominant , the "religious leaders" of the community might have been used..

3) There are some truly malicious people.. That includes some political people as well some "religious people".. Those bishops are doing it for money rather than religion..

4) The protestors have been rented , coerced or brainwashed into protesting... Most of them can barely spell nuclear.. They can be countered by proper pr campaign..

5) The toning down of the protest comes at a time when there could be a possible dilution of the liabilities act and Asstralia agree to sell Uranium... May be the protesters achieved whhat they wanted...Carrot-stick-carrot policy...
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Man mohan has again ripped apart parliament's views and wishes to appease US.

Notified changes by back door in the liability bill.

Indian democracy is truly dead.
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G,

Don't comment about people you know nothing about.
I would not say those things about the Narmada protestors as I do not know them.
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A tweet from Twitter:
http://twitter.com/#!/shankar1949/statu ... 1241431040
kudamkulam is a hindrance to China hitting from Srilanka hence this drama by fathers
Retweeted by Subramanian Swamy.
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Unfolding quid pro quo:

Tamil Nadu plans to demand greater share of the power output from KKNP -- Dinamalar Tamil Daily, published on 16Nov 2011. (Article in tamil).

Above headline translated by me (apologies for errors if any).

Out of the 2000 MWe that will be generated when both reactors go on full production, as of now, proposed share to TN is about 900 MWe. TN now plans to demand 1500 MWe out of the 2000 MWe.
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Ha! Ha! So its all about moolah and more "sparks".Driving a hard bargain in the interests of the state.Well,the plant is located in TN so TN should get a goodly poiece of the pie.JJ knows her onions.
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Philip wrote:Ha! Ha! So its all about moolah and more "sparks".Driving a hard bargain in the interests of the state.Well,the plant is located in TN so TN should get a goodly poiece of the pie.JJ knows her onions.
How weird! Kerala does not have nuclear reactors because of, perhaps as mentioned here, strong EJ lobbies. Now this is about just 10 KM from Kerala border (map) and Kerala was supposed to have major share of it! Why can not there be a nuclear plant in Kerala instead of going around like this?

Contradictions galore! Or shall I say contradictions made!
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'Everything in TN finally comes down to reservation/quotas'.

The comments for the Dinamalar article are illuminating.Dinamalar is the least tamizh nationalist paper.The readers are demanding that Karnataka/Kerala should not be given power because they do not give water.Also Kerala civil servants(Shiv Shankar Menon is a particular bete noire.In some sense,nairs are 'seen by tamils' in the way we see pakjabis) were 'responsible' for the 'eezham debacle' so it is claimed that 75% allocation for TN is fair and right.Such profound thoughts among the readers of the least tamizh nationalist paper.
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I agree that Tamil Nadu should have a major share in this electricity at least 1200 MWe and Kerala should also have a good share with 800 MWe.
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joshvaji,
The GOI has well defined norms to decide on allocation of power or on pricing and utilisation of oil/minerals etc.
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joshvajohn wrote:I agree that Tamil Nadu should have a major share in this electricity at least 1200 MWe and Kerala should also have a good share with 800 MWe.
But why can't Kerala have nuclear plants within the state too? What are the issues clearly? This sounds an issue created for politics after another resource is made scarce.
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My understanding is Kudankulam was chosen because the area is dry,very less fertile and would cause minimal displacement.Kanyakumari Dist and coastal regions along the west coast are more fertile and receive far more rainfall and more densely populated.Kudankulam is on the east coast just a few km away no doubt,but the area is less fertile and has less rainfall.

Ofcourse,GOI failed to factor in the church and the increased political awareness.Tamizh people are 'in no mood' to tune into the grandiose visions of India,unless they know what is in it for them.We have seen this from mandal 1,succesive DMK ministers in Centre,mandal 2 and now KKNPP.There are multiple 'ideas' of India out there.
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Ofcourse,all this is assuming that GoTN will be making such a demand.
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Kerala is full of well educated people at least majority. They will never allow any factory that looks like threatening or exploiting their neighbourhood. They will also seek full compensation for any land given for such industries.
Even the Kerala govt will not let Central govt to set up a nuclear plant in Kerala because they are very smart people!
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joshvajohn wrote:Kerala is full of well educated people at least majority. They will never allow any factory that looks like threatening or exploiting their neighbourhood.(I rest my case) They will also seek full compensation for any land given for such industries.
Even the Kerala govt will not let Central govt to set up a nuclear plant in Kerala because they are very smart people!
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Protests hit another facility at Jaitapur on India’s western coast where Areva SA plans to build a 9,900-megawatt project. Mamata Banerjee, chief minister of West Bengal, announced in August that her state won’t allow a 1,000 megawatt nuclear plant on its soil.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-0 ... otest.html
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former atomic energy commission (AEC) chairman M R Srinivasan

"The public fear is a legitimate one. The issue could have easily been solved with more interactive sections with people focusing on the advanced safety aspects of the plant. Unfortunately, most of our scientists and engineers are poor communicators," They are not able to explain things in a simple language. But we should overcome this," he said.
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... -fukushima
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joshvajohn wrote:Protests hit another facility at Jaitapur on India’s western coast where Areva SA plans to build a 9,900-megawatt project. Mamata Banerjee, chief minister of West Bengal, announced in August that her state won’t allow a 1,000 megawatt nuclear plant on its soil.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-0 ... otest.html
The empire strikes back.

Did any one seriously expect the russians to keep quiet and tamely get f(@ked over by the "fishermen" :lol:
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It will be interesting to see how many of the "very smart and well educated" (Kerala) people are employed in Kalpakkam, Tarapur, Trombay, BARC and any other factory (anywhere in India) that otherwise would look "like threatening or exploiting their neighbourhood" should it be located in their own state. There is a sizable migrant population from soutern TN established around Chembur (quite close to Anushakthi Nagar) for decades. I wonder about their experience in living and carrying out business in a "dangerous and threatening" zone.
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joshvajohn wrote:Kerala is full of well educated people at least majority. They will never allow any factory that looks like threatening or exploiting their neighbourhood. They will also seek full compensation for any land given for such industries.
Even the Kerala govt will not let Central govt to set up a nuclear plant in Kerala because they are very smart people!
Is such a smart government expecting power from the " threatening or exploiting" kundankulam plant??
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Vjayan saar,
those people in chembur,sion,matunga,deonar,anushakthinagar have to earn a living.They dont have the luxury of being fed by @#$%% and do fear mongering as their career.
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theo ,, I merely said that the protestors were innocent villagers forced or brainwashed into protesting...Something similar happened in Narmada...protestors are often pawns of the game...it may be possible that some of the people had genuine fear...the the fuse was surely lit by people who did not have the best interest of the country in mind...


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>>>There is a sizable migrant population from soutern TN established around Chembur (quite close to Anushakthi Nagar) for decades. I wonder about their experience in living and carrying out business in a "dangerous and threatening" zone.

A couple of them are teachers in Atomic energy central school there...some work in the BARC...they are surely not anti nuclear... a whole lot of em have kids in IIT... Besides the campus in chembur is such a nice place , that I doubt they would want to leave...
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Compensation:
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels ... ficial-360
On the complaint of the villages in Koodankulam that they have not been paid the compensation for the land acquired by NPCIL, Srinivasan said: "We gave the money to the state government. We don't pay money directly to the land owners. It is for the state government to discharge its obligation.
Rabble rousing - check.
Play victim card - check.
post links and waiting for revolution - check
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