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Rishirishi wrote:I think Modhi was well aware of the intentions within Pakistan Army. The 2 min silence was a great move. Now he has shown the soft side and reached out. Now he has created more room to take a stronger position if needed. The 2 min came at no cost.

SSridhar wrote:As already predicted by so many here, a big terror strike on India must be in the making within Pakistan. It would be carried out sooner than we expect, IMHO, because the iron has to be struck when it is hot. It will, as always, be a joint effort of the Establishment, the State and LeT. This would have to happen before end of this month to put into jeopardy the Jan 26 events. Pakistan knows that the present government would not be a spectator like the earlier one. But, the Pakistani calculation would be that India would lose both ways, either by reacting immediately or postponing the action.

SSridhar wrote:As already predicted by so many here, a big terror strike on India must be in the making within Pakistan. It would be carried out sooner than we expect, IMHO, because the iron has to be struck when it is hot. It will, as always, be a joint effort of the Establishment, the State and LeT. This would have to happen before end of this month to put into jeopardy the Jan 26 events. Pakistan knows that the present government would not be a spectator like the earlier one. But, the Pakistani calculation would be that India would lose both ways, either by reacting immediately or postponing the action.

December 18, 2014

The Pakistani Taliban outraged the world with its attack on the Army Public School in Peshawar in which they sprayed bullets frenetically, killing 145 people, 132 of them children. As the country mourned the loss of these young lives, Pakistan’s prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, declared that Pakistan would “continue the war against terrorism till the last terrorist is eliminated" and assured the world that it would not differentiate between “good and bad Taliban.” The spokesman for Pakistan’s powerful military, Maj. Gen. Bajwa, bellowed, “for the military, there’ll be no discrimination among Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan, Haqqani network or any other militant group.” Pakistan’s army chief vowed, along with Afghanistan’s new president, Ashraf Gani, that the two countries would fight terrorism together.

Even ostensibly seasoned analysts, such as Peter Bergen, embraced the rhetoric as fact and argued that this heinous crime “may prove as pivotal to Pakistan's national security policy as the 9/11 attacks were for the United States.” Alas, the attack — no matter how heinous — will not motivate Pakistan to abandon its long-held reliance upon Islamist militant groups, who operate with impunity in Afghanistan and India, thanks to Pakistan’s ever expanding nuclear umbrella.


Even as the young victims of the Peshawar massacre wait to be laid to rest, Pakistan has released on bail Lashkar-e-Taiba’s notorious Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi. Lakhvi was the mastermind behind the multiday siege on Mumbai in November of 2008. In that assault, 10 Lashkar gunmen killed 165 people before Indian forces finally put an end to the attacks. Lakhvi’s tenure in jail was really more of a protective detention as he continued to plan and execute operations with the logical support of his jailers. He even fathered a child during his tenure, as he enjoyed extensive conjugal visits. The group’s leader, Hafiz Saeed, speaking to crowds in Urdu assembled in Lahore, denied that the Taliban were behind the murders in Peshawar; rather, he claimed that India was behind the conspiracy (sazish).

The release of Lakhvi is important. In September and October of this year, Pakistan's army began weeks of artillery fire across the line of control in the part of Kashmir controlled by India. Pakistan's army uses artillery cover to facilitate the movement of Pakistani militants who are tasked by the military with conducting terrorist attacks in and beyond Kashmir. This fall, Pakistan's military inserted record numbers of terrorists associated with Lashkar-e-Taiba and another group, the Jaish-e-Mohammad. While out on bail, Lakhvi will be even more effective in masterminding terrorist attacks in India.

Does this sound like Pakistan’s military is discontinuing a long-held policy of distinguishing between those “good militants” who operate on its behalf in Afghanistan and India, and those “bad militants” who kill Pakistanis? Of course not. Unfortunately, many tens of thousands of Pakistanis will die long before the army gives up its jihad habit. And there is absolutely no amount of American, British or other aid or forms of inducements that can change this basic truth.

niran wrote:

SSridhar wrote:As already predicted by so many here, a big terror strike on India must be in the making within Pakistan. It would be carried out sooner than we expect, IMHO, because the iron has to be struck when it is hot. It will, as always, be a joint effort of the Establishment, the State and LeT. This would have to happen before end of this month to put into jeopardy the Jan 26 events. Pakistan knows that the present government would not be a spectator like the earlier one. But, the Pakistani calculation would be that India would lose both ways, either by reacting immediately or postponing the action.

if this happens then the 2 minute silence will be used to paint bakese as evilier than evil and thwack them with a dare "anyone who helps or utter a sigh of sympathy is a terrorist themselves"

Agnimitra wrote:This Paki's cracked it - he solved the Peshawar attack case by putting British colonial and Marxist race historiography together with Islamic psychology:

http://youtu.be/0D8E70sOF9M

RajeshA wrote:

Peregrine wrote:Hang 3,000 terrorists in 48 hours: Pak army chief to Sharif

NEW DELHI: Army chief Gen Raheel Sharif, arguably the most powerful man in Pakistan, tweeted on Wednesday, "Asked PM Nawaz Sharif to hang all terrorists. More than 3,000 terrorists should be hanged in next 48 hours." A day later, Lashkar-e-Taiba's commander Zaki-ur Rahman Lakhvi was out on bail.

Now all those red beard pirates have put in so much effort to make this into Anti-Yindia, and then Jihadi-in-Chief declares war on the High Jihadis! Kyaaa kar raha hai, yeh, yaar!

UlanBatori wrote:UBNC reports that purpose of AD visit to Portoilet is now understood. Look at the nooje. Chankian or what?

Anujan wrote:

RajeshA wrote:Hang 3,000 terrorists in 48 hours: Pak army chief to Sharif

NEW DELHI: Army chief Gen Raheel Sharif, arguably the most powerful man in Pakistan, tweeted on Wednesday, "Asked PM Nawaz Sharif to hang all terrorists. More than 3,000 terrorists should be hanged in next 48 hours." A day later, Lashkar-e-Taiba's commander Zaki-ur Rahman Lakhvi was out on bail.

Now all those red beard pirates have put in so much effort to make this into Anti-Yindia, and then Jihadi-in-Chief declares war on the High Jihadis! Kyaaa kar raha hai, yeh, yaar!

That account is not Bad Sharif's twitter account at all. It is some random Paki abdul's account and he is probably sitting in his mother's basement in Bradfordistan. There are several such "fan" accounts proclaiming themselves to be SSG, some random ISI abdul fighting against terrorists and all that. It is essentially Pakistan army fan fiction.

SSridhar wrote:

Agnimitra wrote:This Paki's cracked it - he solved the Peshawar attack case by putting British colonial and Marxist race historiography together with Islamic psychology:

http://youtu.be/0D8E70sOF9M

Agnimitra, 'Agnidevta' was hilarious.

Mahendra wrote:Does anyone know about how the random 3000 terrorists that are going to be hanged are going to be picked from the whole list of 180 million, if it is done in alphabetical order then Aamirs and Abduls are phucked

Bukhari V1:B11:N626:
“The Prophet said, “burn all those who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes”
Prophet had a mosque (Masjid e Zarrar) burnt down along with the bad muslims praying inside . Those vermins had made different excuses not to join the prophet in Jihad. Allah accused them as liars and munafiqs and prophet had their mosque burned down with them inside, all who tried to escape were beaten back.

UlanBatori wrote:Shreemanji:

So when a Paki terrist herrow is released on bail, where does he go? Do u know? Does anyone? Why not? What happened to Mafia accused gunmen when they were released on bail?

UlanBatori wrote:Shreemanji:

So when a Paki terrist herrow is released on bail, where does he go? Do u know? Does anyone? Why not?
What happened to Mafia accused gunmen when they were released on bail?

A Pakistani local court on Thursday granted bail to Lashkar-e-Taiba commander Zaik-ur-Rahman Lakhvi, provoking sharp reactions from New Delhi. However, later in the day, a Pakistan Interior Ministry spokesman told PTI that the government would certainly file an appeal against the trial court's decision.

"We have a strong case against the seven accused of the Mumbai terror attacks and we will challenge Lakhvi's bail in the high court," the official told the news agency on condition of anonymity. He added that the government may not release Lakhvi under the Maintenance of Public Order (MPO) law.

The trial court has asked Lakhvi to submit surety bonds woth Rs 500,000 surety before he could be released. "There has been many cases like Lashkar-e-Jhangvi chief Malik Ishaq who could not be freed from jail despite granted bail by the court because they may create law and order situation. The government is seriously pondering to detain Lakhvi under 16 MPO for a month or three months," the official said. Lakhvi, the operational head of the banned LeT, was one of the key planners of Mumbai attack.

Before the Pakistan government's decision was announced, Home Minister Rajnath Singh asked the Pakistan government to immediately appeal against the decision in a higher court so that the bail was cancelled. Terming the development as "highly unfortunate," Singh said that India had given enough evidence to Pakistan to ensure Lakhvi was convicted. He also drew a parallel with the conviction and hanging of Ajmal Kasab through a speedy trail and said he would speak to Foreign Minister Sushma Swaraj to speak to the Pakistan government regarding the bail given to Lakhvi.

MEA spokesman Sye d Akbaruddin said Pakistan had to realise there can't be any selective approach towards terror. "99% evidence for 26/11 is in Pakistan. The 1% we have has been handed to Pakistan. A grant of bail to Lakhvi will serve as reassurance to terrorists to perpetrate heinous crimes," he said.

The other side of opinion in a country deeply divided over the issue of terrorism was furnished by former ISI chief and policy hawk General Hameed Gul who felt evidence against Lakhvi may not be strong.

"The timing of ghastly attacks in Peshawar and grant of bail to Lakhvi cannot be linked in any way...Court cases move slowly in both India and Pakistan. It needs solid evidence to prove cases. But allegations that Pakistan is soft on terror should be put to rest," he told ET.

The counter came from G Parthasarathy, former Indian High Commissioner to Pakistan. "Sharif has been offering special treatment to LeT chief Hafiz Saeed in all his tenures as the PM. Saeed has been receiving special privilege from government as well as Punjab government led by Shahbaz Sharif," he said

CONFESSIONAL STATEMENT of Ajmal Kasab recorded before an Indian Magistrate. Kasab said Lakhvi is a 26/11 mastermind says the Operational Commander of LeT who coordinated the attacks and was present in the Control Room in Karachi to guide the attackers in Mumbai. India has the recorded tapes but not Lakhvi's voice samples. Pakistan refused to hand over the samples citing its law as Lakhvi refused to give them.

ABU JUNDAL, an Indian who was also present in the control room and was arrested after being deported from Saudi Arabia, had identifi ed Lakhvi's voice on the tapes. India cites this as an additional evidence of Lakhvi's involvement but Pakistan again cites the lack of samples.

INDIA ALLOWED Pakistan access to interview the main 26/11 investigator, the judge who recorded Kasab's confession & doctors who conducted post-mortem of deceased terrorists. However, Pakistan court feels cross-examination of Indian witnesses in person is a must.

Prem Kumar wrote:

A_Gupta wrote:Umm, Hafiz has a $10 million bounty on him.

Doval should arrange for non-state actor to bump off Suar. Collect $10 Million from Unkil for the trouble.

Altair wrote:

Prem Kumar wrote:quote="A_Gupta" Umm, Hafiz has a $10 million bounty on him.

Doval should arrange for non-state actor to bump off Suar. Collect $10 Million from Unkil for the trouble.

I will be very very surprised if Suar doesn't bite the dust in the next 15 days. The next 40 days will define the dynamics of India-Pakistan relations for a very long time.

anmol wrote:

Christine Fair @CChristineFair · 6h 6 hours ago
To those Pakistanis who think "India" did the Peshawar massacre..you actually deserve the lengthy tenure in narak you WILL get.

Anujan wrote:

SSridhar wrote:Many in India are getting carried away by the reported statement of Nawaz Sharif that his government would not make a distinction between 'good' and 'bad' Taliban. The operative part to be taken note of is 'Taliban'. He did not use the generic term, 'terrorists'. So, terrorism against India will continue and there cannot be any change in that. Nor will there be any change in the political alliance between the Punjab government with AWSJ or LeT/JuD etc. Already, the stage is being prepared for an Indian attack by attributing the latest attack to India. Here, we are conducting Long March throughout India.

Forget India, if Pakistan is sincere about even the taliban, they'd hand over Mullah Omar, get rid of Haqqani network and shut down various sarkari taliban. I dont even believe they'd stop the good taliban/bad taliban business, leave alone act against Pakjabi groups.

A_Gupta wrote:Twitter Watch:

[*quote]Christine Fair @CChristineFair · 6h 6 hours ago
To those Pakistanis who think "India" did the Peshawar massacre..you actually deserve the lengthy tenure in narak you WILL get.[*/quote]

Steadily and sickeningly, we are getting more details of the massacre at the Army Public School, Peshawar, on December 16. This day of horrors included the terrorists accosting a teacher at the school, asking if she was a brigadier’s wife. When the lady said “yes”, she was tied to a chair, doused in kerosine and set alight in front of her pupils. It appears the terrorists initially tried to pick out the children of army officers before beginning their indiscriminate massacre. When some innocents raised their hands to a question, “whose father is in the army?”, they were done away with brutally.