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Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:25
by fanne
A_Gupta wrote: 23 Aug 2023 18:24 What was the vertical landing velocity of the lander? Was it the nominal 1 meter/sec or was it at the higher end towards 3 meters/sec?

What was the horizontal landing velocity of the lander?
Wondering the same

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:25
by Rakesh
hnair wrote: 23 Aug 2023 18:21 Turns out we can and we did
+108!!!
Cyrano wrote: 23 Aug 2023 18:22 Great so see many, so many women - "Bharatiya Naaris" in this CY3 team ! While the rest of the world keeps talking about this and that, India just simply does it in every field that matters. Bharata Naari ki jai !!
So true! India's real heroes...

https://twitter.com/IndiaHistorypic/sta ... 41340?s=20 ---> Scientists of @isro

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Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:26
by Cyrano
Last few seconds DD switched to some close up shot and we could not see real time Hv, Vv and Alt data. Hope DD does a better job when we see the next landings on Mars and Venus.

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:27
by Mukesh.Kumar
Jai Hind.

Now to get to the serious Science stuff and stake our territorial rights on the moon.

Hoping in the same breath that we will also stake our territorial rights on the chanda to our west soon

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:30
by Najunamar
Horizontal was quite low 0.002 m/s or something, vertical was a bit more I think, even then 3 m/s is around 7 mph not even a fender bender!

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:30
by SriKumar
^^^ The velocity value kept changing up and down, and the camera was not pointed at the screen, so we dont know for the exact moment.

However, the important thing is that hover was achieved several 100 meters above the lunar surface, which means that the craft was under full control and behaving normally. So I am pretty sure the landing speed was within parameters per mission.

3 m/s is the upper limit of the design and becomes borderline. Mission parameters would have called for a much lower value as optimal landing velocity.

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:32
by ramana
Congratulations!!!!
India broke the sixth country syndrome.
First country to land near South Pole of the moon.

President Kalam wrote he wanted to break the 'sixth' country syndrome. Every achievement has the blurb. "India is the sixth country to do this, blah, blah..."

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:36
by sanman

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:39
by Cyrano
Agree Ramana ji, India should also get out the "shoe string budget" mindset to forever bury the sixth country syndrome. Big achievements need and deserve big budgets.

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:40
by nitzter
A_Gupta wrote: 23 Aug 2023 18:24 What was the vertical landing velocity of the lander? Was it the nominal 1 meter/sec or was it at the higher end towards 3 meters/sec?

What was the horizontal landing velocity of the lander?
I saw it sustaining at around 1m/s for the last part of the descent.

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:41
by juvva
when can we expect post landing images from the lander cameras?

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:41
by Anurag
When does the rover get deployed?

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:43
by SSSalvi
Happy for the Safe Landing.
Late because was on a panel discussion about landing.
Great achievement for India.
Want to see the Rover sliding dow the ramp, saying ... Mai aya hoon!!!

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:44
by juvva
time to revisit the landing video and savour again and again and again...

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:44
by drnayar
We need a picture of the Indian flag on the dark side of the moon :twisted: .. oh how that picture would sell !!

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:46
by SSridhar
Awesome !

Waiting for the Next Sequential Steps in Progress, such as Pargyaan sliding down, roving, doing the tests and Vikram doing its own.

It would also be great if the two can survive the Lunar night and come back roaring after that.

The whole launch all the way to the landing has been extremely precise as shown by the PM being left with a lot of fuel and the copybook soft landing.

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:47
by SSSalvi
^^^
AI use karo .. Land wherever you want, in picture.

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:47
by fanne
The last visuals from ISRO official @59.27 minute mark reads this - (all within tolerance limit) -

Height/Altitude left to be covered - 19 Meters, Vertical velocity = 1.584 m/s and horizontal velocity = .225 m/s

After that it simply landed.

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:49
by SSSalvi
Yes, That was confusing.

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:49
by SriKumar
mission parameter's upper limit on landing speed was 3 m/s meaning it would survive.
Optimal value for landing speed would be much lower....not published.

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:50
by Sagrawal
A_Gupta wrote: 23 Aug 2023 18:24 What was the vertical landing velocity of the lander? Was it the nominal 1 meter/sec or was it at the higher end towards 3 meters/sec?

What was the horizontal landing velocity of the lander?
ISRO chief mentioned landing speed was far less than 2 m/s

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:52
by Cyrano
ISRO chairman Somanath speaking to the press at the moment on DD live.

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:52
by drnayar

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:52
by Rakesh
What a wonderful way to describe ISRO!

https://twitter.com/_Reincarnate/status ... 43495?s=20 --->

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Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:54
by Kati
Bangladesh gave wide coverage of the moon landing. How are the other neighbors reacting?

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 18:59
by la.khan
Congrats to ISRO, BRF, SSSalvi, Amber G., and others I don't remember. And, most importantly, Dilbuji just for showing up in the nick of time :)

Now, is there a thread that has all the rona dhona from the usual suspects (liberals, p@kis, Bri$hits, western media etc)? Wish to enjoy that with a topping of schadenfreude 8)

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 19:02
by nitzter
SriKumar wrote: 23 Aug 2023 18:49 mission parameter's upper limit on landing speed was 3 m/s meaning it would survive.
Optimal value for landing speed would be much lower....not published.
2 m/s or lower was deemed very safe for CY3.

For CY2, this value was equal to or lesser than 1 m/s, as far as I can recall.

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 19:03
by ashthor
Congratulations ISRO and to the Nation.

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 19:04
by Dilbu
When will DD learn to focus on important things while covering such events. Sigh.

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 19:06
by nitzter
Waiting for more images and videos to come out... Hope ISRO posts the soft landing video, with lunar dust flying off. That would be cool on another level.

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 19:07
by nitzter
Dilbu wrote: 23 Aug 2023 19:04 When will DD learn to focus on important things while covering such events. Sigh.
Very true Dilbu ji.

Visuals were often very different from the commentary. Also, the touch down data was missed out :roll:

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 19:09
by juvva
nitzter wrote: 23 Aug 2023 19:07
Dilbu wrote: 23 Aug 2023 19:04 When will DD learn to focus on important things while covering such events. Sigh.
Very true Dilbu ji.

Visuals were often very different from the commentary. Also, the touch down data was missed out :roll:
also the feed from landing camera was missing at touch down moments.

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 19:17
by VickyAvinash
Congratulations to ISRO. Jai Hind. Very proud moment to be first to land on South Pole of moon.

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 19:18
by juvva
any basic post landing status updates ?
like:
-orientation, power generation from solar panels?
-ground tilt angle if any ?

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 19:21
by dkhare
Jai Hind! Bharat Mata ki Jai! Congratulations ISRO! Congratulations to the Nation!

I think the live video feed will be uploaded through the Deep Space network and will be made available soon. I don't recall if it was going to be a live video feed of the landing but there were time-lapsed pictures being beamed back where you could see the smooth landing zone just below the lander as it descended and went into hover mode.

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 19:26
by SBajwa
Congratulations to ISRO!!

Dilbu you rock! Thank you.

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 19:35
by SriKumar
The real work for the ISRO engineers is just beginning. They are checking parameters on the rover to see if it survived the landing well and powering up its systems and checking system parameters. Rover will be working for the 14 days and nights and preparations for that are probably underway. If PRagyaan goes through this entire timeframe without a hitch, then a ton of pictures and scientific data will come our way.

BIggest thing they are probably looking at pictures in front of the lander Vikram and whether it has clear space to roll out a ramp so PRagyaan can come out smoothly. (My speculation: if this is not possible and there is boulder in front of Vikram, the 'hop' of the lander that people were speculating about might come sooner, but this is pure speculation).

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 19:43
by sanjaykumar
Small step for India giant leap for South Asia.

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 19:45
by juvva
k. sivan's post landing interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzATx541Sa0

Re: Chandrayaan 3: Launch and Discussions

Posted: 23 Aug 2023 19:48
by sanman
The decision on when to deploy the rover will be taken today: