Phone, Tablet and Gizmo Thread #0x02

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 09 Feb 2014 10:49

You don't build up capacity just-in-time, there is a reason why they ramped up the XBox Live infra and kept it separate....its not about servicing XBox Live payments and tracking member points

Who said its 1/3rd of their total capacity?

I doubt anybody Takla, Chacha or Mickey reveals their true capacity number for competitive reasons.

BTW Bing doesn't run on a separate backend than Azure, Office, SkyDrive etc.

Dileep · Post by **Dileep** » 09 Feb 2014 12:43

Bought a Moto G 8GB Dual SIM that was launched on 6th here in MBM

Re-living the feeling I had in 1993, for the first visit out of the country to massa. Naturally, can't give comparisons, because this is the first time I touch a smartphone. Needless to say, it works better than the Samsung Chathan I used to use.

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 09 Feb 2014 13:39

ordered a 16gb moto g (hits the spot

) on FK.

Dint buy any accessory after seeing complaints in the review section of the accessories delivered first and phone order getting delayed/cancelled.

Hope I dont get mine cancelled.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 09 Feb 2014 20:37

Dileep wrote:Bought a Moto G 8GB Dual SIM that was launched on 6th here in MBM

Re-living the feeling I had in 1993, for the first visit out of the country to massa. Naturally, can't give comparisons, because this is the first time I touch a smartphone. Needless to say, it works better than the Samsung Chathan I used to use.

I didn't know there was a Moto G in a dual SIM model? Cool. And yes, it is better than most Samsung Android phones.

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 09 Feb 2014 21:11

Yogi_G wrote:ordered a 16gb moto g (hits the spot ) on FK.

Dint buy any accessory after seeing complaints in the review section of the accessories delivered first and phone order getting delayed/cancelled.

Hope I dont get mine cancelled.

I too ordered a 16 GB Moto G for 14K INR on fpkart. order shud get fulfilled else i will sue the buggers.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 09 Feb 2014 22:46

I am looking for a good video player for my iPad, The standard one sucks and plays only mp4. Any that you suggest?

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 09 Feb 2014 23:20

^^^VLC is there for iPad, no?

vina · Post by **vina** » 10 Feb 2014 03:33

Raja Bose wrote:The fullscreen app/tiled components of the Metro UI is not suitable for desktop - it affects productivity provided by the desktop over a tablet/smartphone.

Exactly. The touch screen business works best for tablets. I buy the Phroot KoolAid on this. Best to have those touch equivalent features on the trackpad either on the Notebook or for desktop (ie MacBook of iMac). Touch screen on a notebook and desktop is unwieldy. Taking away hand from from keyboard level, up to the screen and back doesn't work.

Now someone asked about innovashun . The SSD is one, the touch screen is another, high speed ports is another , wifi is another, GPS is another, accelerometer is another, internet based services is another. All lil egg samples. Not a html runtine at the kernel level. That is old wine in new bottle, or rather old vinegar re bottled and sold as wine. As my French pals say.

Zis is na vin, zis is vinygah

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 10 Feb 2014 03:38

vina wrote:Best to have those touch equivalent features on the trackpad either on the Notebook or for desktop (ie MacBook of iMac). Touch screen on a notebook and desktop is unwieldy. Taking away hand from from keyboard level, up to the screen and back doesn't work.

Very good observation which I also had many moons ago. Why don't the UX/UI designers not up to speed on this? A large horizontal - external USB - touch surface (not the puny one that we are gifted with on the MBP) would neither be very difficult to design nor is it going to be as expensive as a touch screen AFAIK.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 10 Feb 2014 04:25

Raja Bose wrote:^^^VLC is there for iPad, no?

Thanks man, VLC seems really cool!!
WTF is AAPL doing, wtheir video app is junk.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 10 Feb 2014 11:15

VLC is there for almost all platforms

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 10 Feb 2014 12:17

matrimc wrote:A large horizontal - external USB - touch surface (not the puny one that we are gifted with on the MBP) would neither be very difficult to design nor is it going to be as expensive as a touch screen AFAIK.

There is a niche market for this (just like the Wacom drawing tablets)....most consumers don't want this encumbrance.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 11 Feb 2014 04:24

Raja Bose wrote:
matrimc wrote:A large horizontal - external USB - touch surface
There is a niche market for this (just like the Wacom drawing tablets)....most consumers don't want this encumbrance.

How about for a desktop instead of a mouse? Would it better than repetitive injury causing mice?

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 11 Feb 2014 05:43

^^^They (Logitech) tried it before but somehow it never caught on.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 11 Feb 2014 06:13

Marissa Memsaab is again sleeping on the job.

Yahoo Mail is currently down, I can see my emails, but cannot reply or view.
YM was nice and simple and clean, it just needed some newer features. She's gone and ruined it trying to make it more like GMail.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 11 Feb 2014 07:57

have to agree. its become a mess now.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 11 Feb 2014 08:21

KJoishy wrote:Marissa Memsaab is again sleeping on the job.
Yahoo Mail is currently down, I can see my emails, but cannot reply or view.
YM was nice and simple and clean, it just needed some newer features. She's gone and ruined it trying to make it more like GMail.

Heh heh....so much for her being a UX expert.

When will people realize she just happened to be the only half-decent looking chick available at the right place, at the right time...nothing more, nothing less. I don't understand this penchant of ex-Chacha employees to try and replicate exactly what they saw at Chacha, elsewhere with hilarious side effects. I see it at FB, I see it at Yahoo.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 11 Feb 2014 10:04

Nokia will reportedly unveil its Android phone later this month

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 11 Feb 2014 11:00

Yahoo's fleet is aging and it shows.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 12 Feb 2014 05:01

Apple working on tablet-laptop hybrid device?

Surface, anyone?

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 12 Feb 2014 06:12

Raja Bose wrote:Apple working on tablet-laptop hybrid device?

Surface, anyone?

At some point the iPad Air and MBA will merge along with iOS and OS X. The idea of the Surface is good, but poorly executed for consumer use.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 12 Feb 2014 07:46

how many apps are written to use multiple cores and how many people want to run in parallel is debateable beyond 4.
probably is better to have 4 cores and make them more capable and faster than octa+

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 12 Feb 2014 11:33

Mort Walker wrote:
Raja Bose wrote:Apple working on tablet-laptop hybrid device?

Surface, anyone?
At some point the iPad Air and MBA will merge along with iOS and OS X. The idea of the Surface is good, but poorly executed for consumer use.

How will they merge - 2 different architectures.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 12 Feb 2014 13:11

Seattle: Nokia will unveil a low-cost smartphone running a version of Google Inc's Android operating system, despite the company's close partnership with Microsoft Corp and its competing Windows system, according to a report in the Wall Street Journal.
The handset division of the Finnish company, which is in the final stages of being acquired by Microsoft, will show off the new phone at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona later this month, the report said on Monday, citing unidentified sources who were familiar with the matter.
Nokia and Microsoft declined to comment. The new Android phone will be aimed at emerging markets and will not feature some of Google's higher-end, custom Android features.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 12 Feb 2014 13:15

^^^Late latif....its already been posted above.

Basically its a ******** version of Meltemi (which was an Android fork).

vina · Post by **vina** » 13 Feb 2014 05:14

Its Oppishiyal .

All the iThings together outsell ALL Windows put together! Now that is a brilliant achievement. Take that you haters. Mahdi sends his thunderbolt down from the heavens.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 13 Feb 2014 05:20

Raja Bose wrote:
KJoishy wrote:Marissa Memsaab is again sleeping on the job.
Yahoo Mail is currently down, I can see my emails, but cannot reply or view.
YM was nice and simple and clean, it just needed some newer features. She's gone and ruined it trying to make it more like GMail.
Heh heh....so much for her being a UX expert. When will people realize she just happened to be the only half-decent looking chick available at the right place, at the right time...nothing more, nothing less. I don't understand this penchant of ex-Chacha employees to try and replicate exactly what they saw at Chacha, elsewhere with hilarious side effects. I see it at FB, I see it at Yahoo.

Be careful what you say here. Justified or not, the Feminist Brigade on BRF is watching and will come and getcha

Come to think of it, except for search, chacha has failed on most things. Their Finance page is like it was 7-8 years ago. Only their charts are better than Yahoo. Mail sucks. Google+ sucks. I like Google Docs though. I don't really know WTF chacha puts people through so much crap just to get a job there, and WTF do those Stanford-Harvard Pee Chaddis do all day, none of their incredible brains show up in their products.

In fact she is quite open about snoozin on the job.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 13 Feb 2014 05:59

vina wrote:Its Oppishiyal .

All the iThings together outsell ALL Windows put together! Now that is a brilliant achievement. Take that you haters. Mahdi sends his thunderbolt down from the heavens.

er....if they were to count all things which currently run Windows it might end up being more than all iThings FruitCo ever sold.

The only thunderbolt the Mahdi is gonna send down from the heavens is the one which will go straight up Bawarchi's mush for supremely managing to demonstrate Gur-Gobar-karna.

vina · Post by **vina** » 13 Feb 2014 08:54

Raja Bose wrote:er....if they were to count all things which currently run Windows it might end up being more than all iThings FruitCo ever sold. .

Ah.. But you are looking at it like an accountant, not a finance guy. Accountants are painfully precise about historical data that have little value. Finance, looks ahead at the next marginal data!

Accounting - rear view mirror driving. Finance - Look ahead of the windshield and drive. So, what are you Sir Ji ?

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 13 Feb 2014 10:03

vina wrote:
Raja Bose wrote:er....if they were to count all things which currently run Windows it might end up being more than all iThings FruitCo ever sold. .
Ah.. But you are looking at it like an accountant, not a finance guy. Accountants are painfully precise about historical data that have little value. Finance, looks ahead at the next marginal data!

Accounting - rear view mirror driving. Finance - Look ahead of the windshield and drive. So, what are you Sir Ji ?

Finance guy or accountant, the # of iThings is unlikely to exceed the crappy Windoze deployments despite all huffing and puffing - the diversity of domains its deployed in is too vast.

Saral · Post by **Saral** » 13 Feb 2014 11:40

Imagine the following scenarios: One of either Apple/Google/Microsoft Disappears (along with products and services). Rank order the catastrophe. Its much easier for the world to bounce back from disappearance of Apple or Google.

My ranking: Microsoft >> Google > Apple. Disagree?

kenop · Post by **kenop** » 13 Feb 2014 23:00

Ordered a 16GB Moto g after much thought primarily due to my miserly SDRE heart. My last "smartphone" purchase was a Palm Treo 680 in 2007 which is not quite in fine form these days due to a few falls and general use by my 4 yr old son.
20-30 days is what it says on the site. well...
BTW, why the hell don't these guys charge at arond the time of shipping or when they know the date of dispatch?
kickstarter does not charge your card until the project manages to get pledges for the target amount.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 14 Feb 2014 00:58

nsriram wrote:Imagine the following scenarios: One of either Apple/Google/Microsoft Disappears (along with products and services). Rank order the catastrophe. Its much easier for the world to bounce back from disappearance of Apple or Google.

My ranking: Microsoft >> Google > Apple. Disagree?

No, you've got your analogy wrong. MSFT is a chronic disease (not a cancer) like heart disease, diabetes, and arthritis in the body of IT. Its sudden disappearance would mean killing the patient, which is not an option. It is better to slowly purge this disease, but at the same time not replace it with another disease of AAPL or GOOG. In the past the body of IT had the IBM disease which was replaced by the MSFT disease. This is something we want to avoid and not have any disease, but take only the good from MSFT, AAPL, GOOG and IBM.

On another note, large institutions are now beginning to migrate their PCs from XP to Win7. Thankfully MSFT has extended support for XP anti-malware until July 2015.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 14 Feb 2014 02:15

^^^Why so much seething hate for Mickey, Mortullah? Did a Windoze BSOD purge all your Big-Oh stats stored on your PC or something?

---

nsriram wrote:Imagine the following scenarios: One of either Apple/Google/Microsoft Disappears (along with products and services). Rank order the catastrophe. Its much easier for the world to bounce back from disappearance of Apple or Google.

My ranking: Microsoft >> Google > Apple. Disagree?

Among the 3, I would say if Apple disappeared it would have the least impact. Comparing Google vs Mickey is like Apples and Oranges....each plays in very different areas. Mickey does have some overlap with Google mainly becoz of the breadth of its portfolio and each tries to snipe at the other, but largely they are different creatures. In the end the measure of indispensability comes down to how easily replaceable are the warez sold by each while minimizing disruption. By that measure, Apple is the most dispensable and its disappearance will have the least amount of impact today.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 14 Feb 2014 02:31

^^^I don't like being forced to put all of my eggs in one basket be it MSFT, AAPL or GOOG. The basket that I am forced to use is MSFT.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 14 Feb 2014 02:38

^^^Why is that Mickey's fault? It should your ITvity department's fault, no? Tell them to move to another platform to diversify your egg basket

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 14 Feb 2014 03:03

^^^MSFT is a monopoly like Air India or Campa-Cola where companies and institutions have no choice but must use them. Sortalike Rahul telling us kangress is best.

My personal basket consists of OS X and Windoze, and for mobile Android and iOS. I carry a Nexus 5 phone and an iPad Air where I avoid AAPL's native iOS apps for email, contacts, calendar and browser and use GOOG's apps instead. Google Now for iOS was the only thing not up to par with Anrdoid, but that has been fixed now. Even for mobile I am contemplating WP, but GOOG apps don't work too well on it from what I can tell.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 14 Feb 2014 03:34

^^^Then ask like Rahul Gandhi why institutions don't have a choice? Perhaps becoz others are sitting on their mush without turning out a quality alternative? I mean since its so easy to figure out all the faults in Windoze (and they are a-plenty) surely it can't be that hard to build something better?

---

Mean-e-while, looks like Chacha borrowed a page from Mickey's old playbook (as mentioned on this dhaaga many many times in the past). Android's 'Open' System Has Limits

The Samsung and HTC agreements specify a dozen Google applications that must be "preinstalled" on the devices, that Google Search be set as the default search provider, and that Search and the Play Store appear "immediately adjacent" to the home screen, while other Google apps appear no more than one screen swipe away.

uh oh....now that is exactly the kind of stuff that got Mickey smacked with EU anti-trust back in the days. I guess now Mickey needs to borrow a page from Chacha's PR playbook and tout everything as Open, Freedommm, Do No Evil ityadi

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 14 Feb 2014 04:12

Raja Bose wrote: uh oh....now that is exactly the kind of stuff that got Mickey smacked with EU anti-trust back in the days. I guess now Mickey needs to borrow a page from Chacha's PR playbook and tout everything as Open, Freedommm, Do No Evil ityadi

That EU anti-trust order against Mickey was a joke. They even objected to Mickey merely packaging IE along with Windoze. That is ridiculous. That's like telling a car manufacturer not to provide their own air-freshner with a new car to provide a level playing field for other air-freshner manufactuerers.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 14 Feb 2014 05:20

^^^Yes its ridiculous but let it be applied to all equally.