Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 25 May 2013 10:51

Anna supporters switch loyalties, to back Modi for PM

http://www.mid-day.com/news/2013/may/06 ... for-pm.htm

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 25 May 2013 10:59

Sushupti wrote:Anna supporters switch loyalties, to back Modi for PM

http://www.mid-day.com/news/2013/may/06 ... for-pm.htm

Anna Hazare and Narendra Modi should share a dais on transparency in government. Or IAC should simply invite Modi to give a speech on the issue.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 25 May 2013 14:48

BJP rally may get Narendra Modi on Bihar political turf

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 25 May 2013 16:45

Interview of Lehar Singh Siroya, suspended MLC from Karnataka -

‘Is This The Party Of Indira Or Sonia Where You Can’t Question Leaders?’
Former treasurer of the BJP’s Karnataka unit who wrote an open letter alleging that Advani had compromised on corruption

Saba Naqvi Interviews Lehar Singh Siroya

In an embarrassing moment for BJP patriarch L.K. Advani, former treasurer of the party’s Karnataka unit and MLC Lehar Singh Siroya, who is close to Karnataka Janatha Paksha chief B.S. Yediyurappa, wrote him an open letter alleging that Advani had compromised on corruption in the past when it suited his interest. He slammed Advani for taking the moral high ground over corruption and pushing for BSY’s removal, which cost the party dear in the state election. He said Advani never inquired where the money for his rallies and yatras came from, nor the source of funding that brought the BJP to power in Karnataka in 2008 and gave it the largest contingent of MPs in the 2009 Lok Sabha polls. Singh has been suspended from the BJP since, but hopes to return. Excerpts from an interview with Saba Naqvi:

Why are you so angry with Advaniji?

He could have fixed the politics of the country; instead, he is fighting factional battles. And they are acting like autocrats and suspending me because I asked Advaniji some questions. Is this the party of Indira Gandhi or Sonia Gandhi where questioning the leadership is not allowed? I have been suspended, but will always work for the BJP and remain loyal to the ideology.

It is said that if Narendra Modi’s powers increase, Yediyurappa will return to the party and your problems too would come to an end.

If Narendra Modi really starts to run the BJP, Yediyurappa will be back in a matter of a few hours. The problem of the BJP is that it has Delhi leaders who have no mass base.

Who else besides Advaniji are you upset with?

Sushmaji is a great disappointment. When many of us heard her in 1996 when she spoke in Parliament during the confidence vote, we had great expectations of her. But now she has left no reason for us to respect her. In Karnataka, they ask about the way she promoted the Reddy brothers. She patched up with Sonia Gandhi only because she would have also got into trouble along with the Reddy brothers. There should be a debate in the party on her whole role and activities.

These are very serious charges. Why only against her and not other leaders from Delhi?

No, no, I say call an extended plenary session and ask why certain people should be in the BJP’s parliamentary board. Why should Murli Manohar Joshi be there, what is his contribution? What does Venkaiah Naidu do today? What is Ananth Kumar’s role, what are his activities? Advaniji has said the party was purified. But so many people facing all sorts of convictions are in the party. I ask why?

How come you are not saying anything about the RSS, Rajnath Singh or Arun Jaitley?

No one in Delhi has a mass base. I have written to the party president, so I don’t want to say anything. Arun Jaitley is an aristocratic type of person, he is at a level removed from the masses.

Who then do you think are the mass leaders in the BJP?

All the people in Delhi are disconnected from the masses. Our leaders are people like Modi, Vasundhararaje, Gopinath Munde, Manohar Parrikar, Shivraj Singh Chauhan. The real leadership of the BJP is in the states. Look at the situation in the Congress. The BJP should have been able to wipe them out. Instead, the leadership in Delhi is engaged in petty fighting.

You talk particularly about corruption in your letter to Advaniji and accuse him of turning a blind eye when it suits him?

There is hardly any difference between the BJP and other parties on the issue of corruption. The problem is the selective manner in which leaders in Delhi have treated state leaders and nurtured others close to them who are openly involved in corruption or promoting it. They don’t even mind their image in the media or the public because they have protection from the BJP leaders in Delhi.

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?285610

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 25 May 2013 21:42

Sushuspti, There is only one Anna. CN Annadorai. All other annas are khote sikhey

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 26 May 2013 02:31

Delhi Diary - Could the UPA make a comeback in 2014? It is not as hopeless as the wise men on our TV channels suggest VINOD MEHTA

Now that the wailing and gnashing of teeth over the Congress’s internal and external health is over, with even sympathisers unwilling to defend the indefensible, I thought it may be a good idea to muse on how the patient can be nursed back to health. It is not as hopeless as the wise men on our TV channels suggest. However, before this musing can begin, one has to admit that both the urban and rural voter is in a punishing mood. Congress spokespersons who deny the anger, no, rage, against the ruling party do themselves or the party no good. If you live in denial, you can still be thrashed. A more intelligent approach would be to acknowledge the reality and work towards winning 160 seats. That is the best the Congress can hope for.

If a week is a long time in politics, a year is an eternity. Although UPA-II looks perpetually on the verge of collapse, it is possible the government can continue till 2014. And it can live with Manmohan Singh as prime minister. You can call it a lame-duck government, you can call it a government without moral authority (there is nothing in our Constitution which states that ‘moral authority’ is an essential requirement for a government to rule), nevertheless it can last till the final day of its mandate.

I can spot two-and-a-half agents of rescue. First, the assumption that the BJP is the automatic beneficiary of a Congress loss is highly questionable. All opinion polls indicate that the BJP will improve its tally, but not by much. Say, 25 seats. Even if you work in the Modi factor, a clean sweep seems improbable. Two hundred and twenty seats with Modi is a bridge too far. So, the match is not all over.

Second, the Congress must utilise the next 12 months or less to give itself a new persona. Change the narrative, by which I don’t mean the narrative being played out in the ad blitz unleashed recently. I recommend to Dr Singh that he carries out a ruthless and comprehensive reshuffle. Present the country with fresh, young faces. In this makeover, overkill is necessary. These fresh, young faces must handle important portfolios. There is no reason why Jyotiraditya Scindia cannot be made foreign minister or Sachin Pilot be made to sit in the home ministry or Meenakshi Natarajan be the health minister. At some point, the Congress will have to retire the old guard. Why not do it now?

Margaret Thatcher, before she became PM, was like our PM, a poor and reluctant speaker. She took lessons and turned herself into a conference-stopper. While Manmohan Singh cannot achieve those heights, he can’t remain a speechless recluse.

The half agent of rescue is the Supreme Court. Mr Modi is neck-deep in numerous criminal cases. So far, he has been like the cat with nine lives. The law of averages suggests his luck may not hold indefinitely.

That is the game plan by Maino clan which their servant gives it away. Tell me how Modi can overcame this SC&CBI collusion.

Nikhil T · Post by **Nikhil T** » 26 May 2013 02:40

SC can be compromised as well. Here's some proof from just a few days back:

New head of NHRC, Justice Cyriac, gave 10 verdicts in 1300 days as a SC judge

Former Supreme Court judge Cyriac Joseph, who is being considered for the post of Member, National Human Rights Commission (NHRC), has a lazy track record of delivering only 10 judgements during his nearly four-year stint in the Apex court. Joseph was a judge in the Supreme Court between 7 July 2008 and 27 January 2012, a period of 1,300 days.

Interestingly, two months ago, Joseph's candidature for the post of TDSAT (Telecom Disputes Settlement Appellate Tribunal) chairman ran into rough weather for his sluggish style of functioning. Union Telecom Minister Kapil Sibal sought the comments of Chief Justice Altamas Kabir on the matter. Joseph did not get that post.

Joseph's detractors also accuse him of delaying the pronouncement of a judgement against Samajwadi Party leader Mulayam Singh Yadav in a disproportionate assets (DA) case. When it came to giving the verdict on 10 February 2009, just ahead of the 2009 Lok Sabha elections, Joseph said he was "reserving it". Mulayam Singh Yadav had supported the UPA 1 government in the July 2008 no-confidence vote over the nuclear deal and went on to support the UPA II government after the April-May 2009 elections. Joseph retired in January 2012. A reconstituted bench gave the judgement on 13 December 2012 that the CBI should continue with its investigation against Yadav without interference from the Centre.

Joseph also allegedly tried to interfere with a pending investigation in a criminal prosecution in the murder of a nun, Sister Abhaya in Kerala by visiting the forensic laboratory where the analysis of the narco test of the accused was being conducted. Joseph was a sitting judge in the Supreme Court at the time. The incident caused huge resentment in the lawyers' fraternity. Subsequently, the Kozhikode Bar Association passed a resolution against Joseph demanding an investigation into his role and sought his suspension from work for that period.

Joseph's candidature for the post of Member, NHRC is being opposed by BJP leaders Sushma Swaraj and Arun Jaitley. However, the government plans to go ahead with his appointment despite the opposition.( The Govt has to payback dear Judge sahib for his past services.What better than a cozy NHRC job?) The vacancy was created after G.P. Mathur completed his term in January this year.

Vrinda Grover, a senior lawyer, who is opposing Joseph's candidature said, "How can a judge found unfit for the post of TDSAT chairman owing to his working style is fit for the membership of the NHRC? The spate of violations experienced by people across the country demands from the members of the NHRC a very high level of integrity, commitment and efficiency, as the right to life and dignity of the most disadvantaged is at stake."

She also accused Joseph of making derogatory remarks in the presence of women lawyers during the course of arguments in the court causing harassment to them. "A judge both in his judgements and in his conduct is expected to be respectful of women including women lawyers," she said.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 26 May 2013 04:11

vivek.rao wrote:Delhi Diary - Could the UPA make a comeback in 2014? It is not as hopeless as the wise men on our TV channels suggest VINOD MEHTA

Now that the wailing and gnashing of teeth over the Congress’s internal and external health is over, with even sympathisers unwilling to defend the indefensible, I thought it may be a good idea to muse on how the patient can be nursed back to health. It is not as hopeless as the wise men on our TV channels suggest. However, before this musing can begin, one has to admit that both the urban and rural voter is in a punishing mood. Congress spokespersons who deny the anger, no, rage, against the ruling party do themselves or the party no good. If you live in denial, you can still be thrashed. A more intelligent approach would be to acknowledge the reality and work towards winning 160 seats. That is the best the Congress can hope for.

If a week is a long time in politics, a year is an eternity. Although UPA-II looks perpetually on the verge of collapse, it is possible the government can continue till 2014. And it can live with Manmohan Singh as prime minister. You can call it a lame-duck government, you can call it a government without moral authority (there is nothing in our Constitution which states that ‘moral authority’ is an essential requirement for a government to rule), nevertheless it can last till the final day of its mandate.

I can spot two-and-a-half agents of rescue. First, the assumption that the BJP is the automatic beneficiary of a Congress loss is highly questionable. All opinion polls indicate that the BJP will improve its tally, but not by much. Say, 25 seats. Even if you work in the Modi factor, a clean sweep seems improbable. Two hundred and twenty seats with Modi is a bridge too far. So, the match is not all over.

Second, the Congress must utilise the next 12 months or less to give itself a new persona. Change the narrative, by which I don’t mean the narrative being played out in the ad blitz unleashed recently. I recommend to Dr Singh that he carries out a ruthless and comprehensive reshuffle. Present the country with fresh, young faces. In this makeover, overkill is necessary. These fresh, young faces must handle important portfolios. There is no reason why Jyotiraditya Scindia cannot be made foreign minister or Sachin Pilot be made to sit in the home ministry or Meenakshi Natarajan be the health minister. At some point, the Congress will have to retire the old guard. Why not do it now?

Margaret Thatcher, before she became PM, was like our PM, a poor and reluctant speaker. She took lessons and turned herself into a conference-stopper. While Manmohan Singh cannot achieve those heights, he can’t remain a speechless recluse.

The half agent of rescue is the Supreme Court. Mr Modi is neck-deep in numerous criminal cases. So far, he has been like the cat with nine lives. The law of averages suggests his luck may not hold indefinitely.
That is the game plan by Maino clan which their servant gives it away. Tell me how Modi can overcame this SC&CBI collusion.

The fact is Modi can't. He is next target after Yeddy. And i am sure Advani and gang will the maino clan all the help.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 26 May 2013 07:57

muraliravi wrote:
vivek.rao wrote:Delhi Diary - Could the UPA make a comeback in 2014? It is not as hopeless as the wise men on our TV channels suggest VINOD MEHTA

The half agent of rescue is the Supreme Court. Mr Modi is neck-deep in numerous criminal cases. So far, he has been like the cat with nine lives. The law of averages suggests his luck may not hold indefinitely.
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That is the game plan by Maino clan which their servant gives it away. Tell me how Modi can overcame this SC&CBI collusion.
The fact is Modi can't. He is next target after Yeddy. And i am sure Advani and gang will the maino clan all the help.

As regards the Ishrat case, it seems Guj govt did nothing the shield the accused officers, which is why they are unhappy with the Guj govt. (There is no doubt that Ishrat & Co were LeT agents, the only Q is whether they were denied due process.) So it seems Modi had nothing to do with the whole affair.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 26 May 2013 08:02

Pranav wrote:As regards Ishrat case, it seems Guj govt did nothing the shield the accused officers. (There is no doubt that Ishrat & Co were LeT agents, the only Q is whether they were denied due process.) So it seems Modi had nothing to do with the whole affair.

Won't matter one whit if an 'understanding' judicial luminary is manouvered into pilot position. And then shall follow the string of appeals to higher courts and what not. The ishq-rat case is handy for the c-system also because its scare tactics aimed at IMs remains intact in this case (much more than in the sohrabuddin case, IMO).

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 26 May 2013 08:21

muraliravi wrote:The fact is Modi can't. He is next target after Yeddy. And i am sure Advani and gang will the maino clan all the help.

come on. Don't fall for the fear mongering that goes on here in a seasonal fashion. NaMo's arrest on Isharat's case or Shorabuddin case means giving NaMo a win on a platter. Yeddi's a corruption case. Couple of proven terrorists are killed in encounters (fake or real). If the government arrest NaMo for such things in a country that is already polarized on NaMo Vs non-NaMo is a political suicide.

That Outlook article of crap of sorts. NaMo cannot be caged using criminal cases. If INC has any guts, let it do.

member_22539 · Post by **member_22539** » 26 May 2013 11:31

^+1 Lets hope congis are stupid enough to do that, though I seriously doubt it. That Vinod Mehta guy is a real geriatric. People like him should be finding themselves a good assisted living facility and retiring from public view before they humiliate themselves with the inevitable loss of bodily functions.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 26 May 2013 14:34

No decision on Narendra Modi as PM candidate, says BJP leader

Panaji: A decision on Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi as the BJP's prime ministerial candidate will only be taken by the party's parliamentary board "when it is appropriate" and not when the national executive meets in Panaji in June 2013, a BJP leader said on Saturday.

BJP general secretary JP Nadda told reporters: "The decision for the post of prime ministerial candidate is for the party's parliamentary board to decide. They will take a decision on the issue when it is appropriate."

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/no-decision- ... 37-64.html

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 27 May 2013 02:58

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-new ... 66427.aspx

BJP gen secy stokes debate, says Modi popular across India

A top BJP leader dropped the clearest hint so far that Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi was poised to be declared the party's PM nominee ahead of the next Lok Sabha election.

BJP general secretary Thawar Chand Gehlot on Saturday said Modi was the only party leader who was in demand across the country.

"The parliamentary board realises that Modiji is a popular leader in the country and it will honour the public sentiment while taking the decision," he told reporters.

However, the decision, Gehlot said, would be taken at an "appropriate time". "The party will announce its PM candidate as soon as the process for the next Lok Sabha poll gets under way," he said.

Gehlot's views are important as he, like Modi, is a part of the 12-member parliamentary board and, as such, a part of the decision making process on the BJP's PM candidate.

Asked about Bihar chief minister Nitish Kumar's known reservations about Modi's possible candidature, the BJP general secretary said, "Everything will be settled at the right time."

Gehlot affirmed that the BJP-JD (U) alliance was very old and will remain intact. Bihar BJP president Mangal Pandey was present when Gehlot made these observations.

However, Bihar JD(U) spokesman Rajiv Ranjan said such efforts went against the grain of the coalition 'dharma'. The state BJP leadership should take note of the matter and take appropriate action, he added.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 27 May 2013 03:03

^^^

I always thought that the BJP board had only 11 members, I was wrong they have 12.

Apart from Advani and Modi there are 10.

Advani gang: Sushma, Ananth Kumar, MM Joshi (Joshi ji maybe anti modi, but I am very doubtful if he will support modi).

Modi Gang: Jaitley, Naidu, Ram Lal, Thawar Chand Gehlot.

Unknowns: Rajnath and Gadkari

ABV is the only one left and I dont think he participates in the decision making process any more.

We can pretty much rule out Rajnath and Gadkari together supporting Advani.

So Modi has his game all set.

As Sanku ji, had alluded before, I dont think JD(U) will walk away even if modi is announced because cong and rjd are for sure going sure.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 May 2013 04:00

^^^
I was about to post the above article. Not just the above person, I met Kishen Reddy (AP BJP president) when he visited us. He in front of TV9 and TV5, said on these lines " BJP will declare NaMo as its PM nominee for 2014 elections soon." He repeated this two times and it is not PM candidate or anything else and it is NaMo as PM candidate. Another thing he observed is that any variation from "NaMo as PM" means BJP receiving disproportionate chappal attacks everywhere. He clearly said that this time Bharat ki janata ne BJP ko forcefully PM candidate ko selection kar hi diya. BJP cannot do anything else.

I will more later regarding the information that I gathered about AP.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 May 2013 04:03

muraliravi wrote:^^^

I always thought that the BJP board had only 11 members, I was wrong they have 12.

Apart from Advani and Modi there are 10.

Advani gang: Sushma, Ananth Kumar, MM Joshi (Joshi ji maybe anti modi, but I am very doubtful if he will support modi).

Modi Gang: Jaitley, Naidu, Ram Lal, Thawar Chand Gehlot.

Unknowns: Rajnath and Gadkari

ABV is the only one left and I dont think he participates in the decision making process any more.

We can pretty much rule out Rajnath and Gadkari together supporting Advani.

So Modi has his game all set.

As Sanku ji, had alluded before, I dont think JD(U) will walk away even if modi is announced because cong and rjd are for sure going sure.

Rest assured, even the biggest of the biggest were asked gently to shut up in BJP. ABV from the podium infront of everyone asked Modi to resign from Gujarat CM ship. ABV's request was rejected by LKA, AJ and Venkiah Naidu. So big and small does not matter. This time it is just impossible for the party to escape from NaMo.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 27 May 2013 05:48

muraliravi wrote:^^^

I always thought that the BJP board had only 11 members, I was wrong they have 12.

Apart from Advani and Modi there are 10.

Advani gang: Sushma, Ananth Kumar, MM Joshi (Joshi ji maybe anti modi, but I am very doubtful if he will support modi).

Modi Gang: Jaitley, Naidu, Ram Lal, Thawar Chand Gehlot.

Unknowns: Rajnath and Gadkari

ABV is the only one left and I dont think he participates in the decision making process any more.

We can pretty much rule out Rajnath and Gadkari together supporting Advani.

So Modi has his game all set.

As Sanku ji, had alluded before, I dont think JD(U) will walk away even if modi is announced because cong and rjd are for sure going sure.

His low profile would indicate that he represents RSS in parliamentary board
See here
http://thawarchandgehlot.blogspot.ca/

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 27 May 2013 07:03

Sushupti wrote: His low profile would indicate that he represents RSS in parliamentary board
See here
http://thawarchandgehlot.blogspot.ca/

Good Observation. Hope they all sound the death knell to the gas bags.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 27 May 2013 07:24

muraliravi wrote:
Sushupti wrote: His low profile would indicate that he represents RSS in parliamentary board
See here
http://thawarchandgehlot.blogspot.ca/
Good Observation. Hope they all sound the death knell to the gas bags.

They are banning GDF?

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 27 May 2013 07:51

Gurcharan Das, Director of Ranbaxy until recently, is just another Dhimmi.

"..raising the risk of domestic terror. So far, the Muslim minority has been relatively moderate and less Islamist."

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/d4725a6a-c ... z2USMlyjC7

"By polarizing the country, people fear he might alienate India's Muslims and this might enhance the risk of domestic terror."
http://gurcharandas.blogspot.ca/

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 27 May 2013 08:29

muraliravi wrote:http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-new ... 66427.aspx

However, the decision, Gehlot said, would be taken at an "appropriate time". "The party will announce its PM candidate as soon as the process for the next Lok Sabha poll gets under way," he said.

This is OK as long as Modi is made Chairman of National Election Committee immediately.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 27 May 2013 11:41

Pranav wrote:This is OK as long as Modi is made Chairman of National Election Committee immediately.

+1. And no games like splitting the campaign committee such that ticket distribution powers are taken away or something (D4 was supposedly proposing this to clip Modi's wings).

The cadre and the people have decided already. D4 games only serve to shine more limelight on the bjp. Free PR I guess. Good, good.

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 27 May 2013 19:30

the above is good news

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 27 May 2013 23:05

http://in.news.yahoo.com/why-modi-will- ... 27368.html

HT poll predicts 220 seats for NDA with NM 179 without NM. Bh predicts BJP a slp. Need more polls to get a clearer picture.

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 27 May 2013 23:22

Please bear with my rant.

I had a very vocal discussion with a senior colleague on politics. And slowly from corruption, the issue became NaMo. I am actually amazed at the level to which some Hindus are dhimmified. It is unlike anything I have seen before. And this is not a minuscule minority but quite a large number. The guy was basically frothing at the mouth, saying how he knows it all since he has lived in Gujarat and how it was always a prosperous state & how NiKu has done a better job with Bihar. Same old propaganda infused thoughts on 2002 riots, continuously harping on how NaMo apparently hates Muslims & how BJP/RSS's 'ideology' is rotten & how they are not inclusive.

This word 'inclusive' is the amrit for these dhimmis. NaMo is not inclusive by NiKu is or Sonia is. When asked what is inclusive & how NaMo is not inclusive despite all data showing to the contrary, he says the data is biased & ground realities are different. When asked why Muslims are voting for Modi in Gujarat, our man pulls out Stockholm Syndrome as an explanation. On Sonia, when I said she is an Italian for god's sake, the man says 'see, that's the thought that is wrong, so what if she's an italian, you find an Indian who can rule'.

If somebody today peeks into the future, 200 years down the line, I'd not be surprised if Hindus are wiped off the planet. With such thinking & such level of dhimmitude, it looks most inevitable.

[/Rant]

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 28 May 2013 00:49

Chandragupta ji,

Bharatiyas should also use the word "inclusive" and say Congress is not inclusive as it does not include Hindus/Bharatiyas in their coalition. They have only Muslims, Christians, Cultural Marxists, Macaulayites, Dhimmis, Yuppies, Secular Gotravadis, Christian and Neo-Buddhist Dalitists, some Jativadis and foreign-aid receiving NGO people in their coalition.

The are not inclusive towards "Hindus"!

Congress should show some inclusiveness!

VikramS · Post by **VikramS** » 28 May 2013 02:03

Chandragupta:
Point them to Madhukishwar's modinama. It is absolutely worth reading especially the 1st few ones on the experience of Muslims in Gujarat.

Issue is that the INC propaganda machine controls most channels of information and most people do not have the time to actually look beyond the obvious. The INC control on the narrative is very strong.

If there is a silver lining it is the fact that these urban ignorants do not matter in the big picture. In the big picture it is the rural vote which decides the victor. The problem their of course is that BJP does not have a strong rural presence. It is primarily a party of city dwellers.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 28 May 2013 10:14

Modi releases Gujarati version of film on Veer Savarkar

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Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 28 May 2013 10:53

Rajnath Singh rules himself out of PM race, says post doesn't matter to him

With the race for the Bharatiya Janata Party's Prime Ministerial candidate heating up, party president Rajnath Singh has ruled himself out of the contest. Speaking to Mail Today on Monday, Singh said, "I am not in the running for the Prime Minister's post. It would not be fair."

In his quintessential reserved style, Singh stressed that posts didn't mean much to him.

"Posts don't matter to me, they never have," he said. "What would make me extremely happy is if the BJP comes to power at the Centre during my presidency," he added.

Now, wouldn't it be nice if sushma and LKA follow his lead, eh? And the party+cadre+sangh unite around one man, one mission - to oust UPA and return NDA to power? Yup, if wishes were horses...

More candid talk and a nice-to-see tendency to not run away from responsibility:

The loss in Karnataka has come as a major blow to the party.

"We were aware the tide was against us, but I never thought we will fall below 50," Singh said.

He also hinted his openness towards arriving at a reconciliation with Karnataka strongman B.S. Yeddyurappa, whose rebellion cost the party dearly in the elections. Singh said the party will need to decide how it could address the Yeddyurappa factor.

Singh went to the extent of saying that the party didn't take action against the former chief minister.

"We didn't remove him from the party, he left on his own. There is a healthy tradition in the party that those who are facing allegations give up their post, until they are cleared of the charges," he said.

However, Singh said that the debacle in Karnataka won't be repeated in the Lok Sabha elections.

Refreshing or what? More excerpts here:

According to Singh, the buzz about early elections was false and that they would take place on time. "The Congress will not like to leave the pleasures of power for even a day," he said

Predictably, Singh remained non-committal on who the party's PM candidate should be though he did admit that the name will be announced sooner rather than later.[...] Singh tacitly admitted that the delay isn't helping the party in any way and said that he will speak to party leaders on the matter.

On being asked about whether the BJP planned to declare Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi as its candidate, the party chief said, "Modi's candidature depends on the Central Parliamentary Board. As far as popularity is concerned, there is no doubt that he is the most popular leader the party has."

Oh, read it all. Onlee.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 28 May 2013 11:53

Hari Seldon wrote: Now, wouldn't it be nice if sushma and LKA follow his lead, eh? And the party+cadre+sangh unite around one man, one mission - to oust UPA and return NDA to power? Yup, if wishes were horses...
.

Actually LKA has already given that speech, on his last Bday. That has not stopped the congress drones pretending to be BJP friends (not you Hari, talking in general) from spreading continuous FUD.

Of course people will buy it.

Since when has "what the person actually said or did" really matter on this thread, it has always been a combination of name calling for perceived omissions, (not even perceived commissions), CTs of most extreme form, denial of what really is (on AAP for example) etc.

ashashi · Post by **ashashi** » 28 May 2013 14:30

Subramanian Swamy meets Narendra Modi

Janata Party president Subramanian Swamy paid a visit to Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi on Monday at his office in Gandhinagar.

Swamy, who arrived here in the afternoon, drove to the CM's office in Gandhinagar at around 5 pm. Both the leaders spent time together for around 45 minutes, sources said.

"Swamy met Chief Minister Narendra Modi to discuss the prevailing political situation and the next Lok Sabha election," sources privy to the meeting said.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 28 May 2013 19:55

http://www.peoplespulse.in/pdf/reports/ ... _%20UP.pdf

Worth a read. Pretty much solidifies the idea that Modi is a real factor in UP.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 28 May 2013 21:15

muraliravi wrote:http://www.peoplespulse.in/pdf/reports/ ... _%20UP.pdf

Worth a read. Pretty much solidifies the idea that Modi is a real factor in UP.

PEOPLE’S ASSESMENT ON AKHILESH YADAV’S ONE-YEAR RULE
One of the Objectives of the study was to ascertain the views of the electorates as to
how they view the performance of the Akhilesh Yadav government at the end of the
one year.
A lot has been written about the reasons why the BSP has lost power and what are
the factors that brought the Samajwadi Party to power in the elections held last
year. While that is history now, the experience of people with the new government
over the past year is certainly not music to the ears of Akhilesh Yadav.

LAW & ORDER: The study found strong responses w.r.t the collapse of law & order
machinery. Some common responses were that hooliganism has escalated under
S.P’s rule and that there is open “Gundagardi”. Interestingly, the study didn’t find a
single exception to this aspect

ELECTRICITY: The respondents opined that there has been a serious decline in
the availability of electricity....

the rest of the state seems to be having
a scant supply of the same sometimes merely for 4-5 hours a day.

Apparently, some
agricultural loans have been waived off but farmers pointed out that this benefit
was given only to those who have taken loans from “BHOOMI VIKAS BANK”. Most
farmers obtained loans from other banks. In fact, it was pointed out that “Bhoomi
Vikas Bank” is like a cartel wherein only influential farmers get the loan. Similarly,
Akhilesh Yadav government has announced onetime scholarship to girl students
who have completed their Xth and XIIth. But it was alleged that it was mere
symbolic as very few girl students were given the same (Rs 30,000) and secondly
most of the those who benefited hailed from Muslim community that led to the
anger among the non-Muslims. Ironically, even Muslim respondents complained
that the scholarship was given to a chosen few. But the sense of betrayal was most
entrenched among youth who were promised a monthly unemployment allowance of
Rs. 1000.

Most of the Dalit respondents were of the view that their
situation has worsened after Samajwadi Party assumed power. A frequent
complaint was that there has been a rise in atrocities being committed on dalits
(Hamare Upar Julm Badha Hai Is Sarkar Me)!! This fact was corroborated by the
non-Dalit respondents but in an unsympathetic manner. The study found many
instances of discriminatory policy of the present government against Dalits. For
instance, electricity and water supply arranged for “Kanshiram colony” at JHANSI
by the previous B.S.P government to benefit dalits and EBCs has been cut off.

MUSLIMS vs. NON-MUSLIMS: In the last one year, it seems the “Hindu-Muslim”
divide is on the rise though in a subtle manner not due to BJP’s hindutva politics
but rather due to some pro-Muslim policies followed by the present Samajvadi Party
government. In fact this feeling, though undercurrent, is so strong that seemingly
two politically adversary castes in the state, “DALITS AND YADAVS”, were found to
be having the same impression that the present state government is working only
for the Muslims

MAJOR PROBLEMS:
Price Rise remains the biggest problem followed by “Gundagardi”, “Unemployment”,
“Extremely short supply of electricity”, “Bad condition of roads”, “Drought (more
acute in Bundelkhand region), “ Security of women”.

While the Mayawati government was considered to be synonymous with
corruption, the present S.P government is considered to be coterminous with
“Gundagardi’. Secondly, the while the BSP government was seen as aggressively
empowering dalits at the cost of non-dalits, the present government is perceived to
be doing the reverse. With regard to Law and Order, the Mayawati’s administration
was still considered to be strict while the S.P regime is seen as ineffective

But the present government gives the impression of a chaotic system
wherein every political agent considers himself to be the government. Thus it seems
that an authoritarian way of administration has been replaced by a chaotic way
of administration rather than a democratic one.

The enthusiasm for Modi in most of the cases is not mainly for his “Hindutva”
image but rather for his image as a “VIKAS PURUSH”. But a close engagement with
the respondents in most of the cases betrays their underlying appreciation for his
“Hindutva” image as if the combination of two makes him irresistible.
While those respondents (Hindus) who are already considering to give BJP a chance
in the 2014 Lok Sabha election were elated at the prospect of Narendra Modi being
projected as the Prime Ministerial candidate, those who are still not clear about
their political choice for the 2014 Lok sabha election or who still don’t consider BJP
as their first preference consistently opined that if Modi is elevated to the national
platform, they will give a BJP a chance to rule the country.

Similarly, Muslim respondents were of the view that the projection of Modi will not
go down well with Muslims and it may polarize Muslims against BJP wherein they
will vote tactically constituency wise to ensure the defeat of the BJP candidates
from that area.

Well... Didn't they do this in the last election? Are they any different now? Why is this repeated again and again by paidmedia and CONgi agents?

The impact of Narendra Modi enigma among Hindus gets reflected from the fact
that even among Yadavs and Dalits, who otherwise are committed voters of
Samajvadi Party and B.S.P respectively, the overwhelming response was that Modi
factor will help BJP tremendously in the coming Lok sabha election. Upon further
query, these two set of respondents remarked that even if they vote for their
respective parties, S.P and B.S.P, they will support Modi from inside their heart.
The main enthusiastic sections among Hindus who vouch for Modi and will prefer
BJP in the ensuing 2014 Lok sabha elections will be the upper, non-Yadav OBCs,
and some non-Jatav Dalit castes like Khatiks and Pasis.

Further, the Rahul Gandhi factor doesn’t seem to inspire the voters. His image is of
someone who is surrounded by a coterie and acts upon their advice rather than his
own. Moreover, Congress, as a party, has no strong state leader. Overall, Congress
prospects in the 2014 Lok Sabha election look bleak and gloomy.
Also, Congress has earned a bad name due to unpopular measures like overall
inflation leading to rise in prices of almost essential commodities, petrol, diesel and
fertilizers, apart from cap on the number of LPG cylinders that a family can have
annually. Besides, the recent rape case in Delhi has dented the image of Congress
as a party that doesn’t care for the people.

If the current state of political situation in the Uttar
Pradesh is any indicator, the Samajvadi Party will certainly lose the support of
many sections that voted for it during the last Assembly election.
In fact, there were similarities in the responses of the people who felt that the S.P
government is a failure on two fronts: Law and Order has collapsed leading to the
rise in “Gundagardi” and two, it has betrayed the voters by making false promises
just to garner their votes.

But given the marginalization of Dalits after BSP/Mayawati lost power a year ago,
there are strong chances that this time there would be a stronger consolidation of
Dalits behind Mayawati/BSP.
The factor that will go against the electoral prospect of Mayawati/BSP is
conditionally related to the B.J.P’s internal decision regarding Narendra Modi. That
is to say, the Dalits will more strongly consolidate behind BSP but the non-dalit
voters who are angry with S.P are also not very happy with Mayawati as the reasons
that factored her defeat are still in the psyche of these voters. So ultimately if they
choose BJP as their choice, then BSP doesn’t have a strong chance to notch up
more numbers than it currently has in the Lok Sabha.

MUSLIM PARTIES: Of late, there seems to be a new trend among Muslims, though
at margins at present but with huge inherent potential, to have a separate party of
their own. In this regard, two such parties that merits due attention as they had
their share of impact on the political prospects of other parties. First, the “PEACE
PARTY” led by Dr. Ayub that saw its electoral rise in the previous Uttar Pradesh
election wherein it won four seats.
Secondly, another Muslim party that merits attention is the “National Ulema
Council” formed at AZAMGARH against the “BATLA ENCOUNTER ISSUE” that
secured a substantial number of votes in the Azamgarh’s five Assembly
constituency playing a decisive role in the victory or defeat of candidates of various
parties.
Upon interaction with the important leaders of both these parties, it was pointed
out that there may be an alliance between the two in the coming Lok Sabha
election

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 28 May 2013 22:41

muraliravi wrote:http://www.peoplespulse.in/pdf/reports/ ... _%20UP.pdf

Worth a read. Pretty much solidifies the idea that Modi is a real factor in UP.

Very interesting and pretty accurate observations related to Varanasi and MM Joshi. I had anticipated this destruction of BJP's citadel when he changed his seat from Allahabad to Varanasi. BJP's parliamentary board is full of such "National" leaders who either can't win their seat or need a ripe constituency groomed by others to win it.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 28 May 2013 23:06

Sushupti wrote:
muraliravi wrote:http://www.peoplespulse.in/pdf/reports/ ... _%20UP.pdf

Worth a read. Pretty much solidifies the idea that Modi is a real factor in UP.
Very interesting and pretty accurate observations related to Varanasi and MM Joshi. I had anticipated this destruction of BJP's citadel when he changed his seat from Allahabad to Varanasi. BJP's parliamentary board is full of such "National" leaders who either can't win their seat or need a ripe constituency groomed by others to win it.

Rumor mill is that, He was asked to vacate this seat (Varanasi) for Modi to contest. But he apparently refused. I am not sure why he is refusing if he is going to lose. And if he has done so much damage to the seat, not sure how Modi can pull it off there. The news was that Muslims may consolidate too much against modi and hindu consolidations may not be so much for moci to win Lucknow. But the lucknow seat is one where BJP team is still actively surveying to see if that is best seat for modi. Another option was Gorakphur which is seen as hindi heartland and hindu sentiment seat. Yogi was agreeable to contest from elsewhere.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 29 May 2013 01:17

http://www.lensonnews.com/lensonnews/1/ ... o-raj.html

I for one have no clue on how BJP is going to solve this problem between these 2 cousins. I see no solution. Raj sees no point in aligning with BJP if SS is in the alliance, because if they come to power who will call the shots? He will not work under Uddhav nor will the reverse happen.

One possible solution is that they fight the Lok Sabha polls together and fight it out in the assembly separately. In LS polls, it is just MP's for the center, Raj and Uddhav at a personal level have no skin in the game there.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 29 May 2013 02:25

muraliravi wrote:
Rumor mill is that, He was asked to vacate this seat (Varanasi) for Modi to contest. But he apparently refused. I am not sure why he is refusing if he is going to lose. And if he has done so much damage to the seat, not sure how Modi can pull it off there. The news was that Muslims may consolidate too much against modi and hindu consolidations may not be so much for moci to win Lucknow. But the lucknow seat is one where BJP team is still actively surveying to see if that is best seat for modi. Another option was Gorakphur which is seen as hindi heartland and hindu sentiment seat. Yogi was agreeable to contest from elsewhere.

First time Congress was able to win this seat, after losing in 89, in 2004. Rajesh Mishra defeated Shankar Prasad Jaiswal (BJP) (96,98,99) as BJP tried to play Congress B team and poor electricity situation. Hindutva consciousness is very high in this seat.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 29 May 2013 06:28

Expected onlee -

Expulsion of Ram Jethmalani also shows who is in charge inside BJP.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 29 May 2013 06:47

Modi WILL be projected. Amit Shah has already taken over UP campaign. Who the f*ck else is there who can pull in the votes?