The Akal Takht, the highest temporal seat of Sikhism, has taken a serious view of reports of Sikh girls falling victim to 'love jihad' an act that involves 'charming' Pakistani youths attempting to impress, marry and convert non-Muslim girls to Islam for using them in jihadi efforts.
The Akal Takht is concerned as along with Hindu and Christian girls, Sikh girls have also become targets of the 'love jihad' movement. Reports suggest that some radical Islamic groups are behind this movement.
This matter has been brought to the notice of the Takht by some NRI Sikhs and members of the Sikh Council of UK, an organisation involved in religious, social and cultural matters related to Sikhism. Its members include some prominent UK-based Sikhs such as representatives of prominent gurdwaras.
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The Sikh Council brought this to the notice of the Akal Takht after getting reports of girls from England-based Sikh families being trapped in 'love jihad'. The reports also referred to these girls being exploited in various ways by their husbands and in-laws. Some of these girls were later dumped by their husbands in Pakistan, where the in-laws have been using them as domestic help.
"The Sikh Council has rescued some of the victims (girls) and brought them back to their parents," the Takht jathedar said. When asked how many such cases existed in the UK or England, he replied, "There could be hundreds."
The 'love jihad' movement is said to have its roots in Kerala and other southern states, where Christian and Hindu girls have been targeted. It has been the cause of tension in these states.
The Commission for Social Harmony and Vigilance of the Kerala Catholic Bishops Council conducted a report which highlighted the grave nature of love jihadists. The report said, "There were 2,868 female victims of the 'love jihad' in Kerala from 2006 to 2009."
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 30 Jan 2014 11:51
by arun
partha wrote:Future 18th largest economic super power -
With a staggering 5.4 million children out-of-school, Pakistan is likely to miss the Education For All (EFA) target that was set to be achieved by 2015, according to EFA Global Monitoring Report released on Wednesday.
Projecting a grim future, the report states that if the country moved at current pace the adult literacy rate (15 and above) by the year 2015 will be 60 per cent of which female at 47 per cent and male 72 per cent. Besides, the adult illiteracy rate by 2015 also seems to be estimated at an appalling 51 million of which 65% will be females.
The report reveals that if Pakistan were to halve the inequality in access to education to the level of Vietnam, it would increase its economic growth by 1.7 percentage points.
Alarmingly, Pakistan is ‘very far’ from meeting the 2015 deadline and ranks among nations like Mali, Niger and Lesotho in the countries list away from achieving the education goal, the report further states.
Every cloud as they say has a silver lining.
As an “Islamic Republic”, the world’s first “Ideological Muslim State”, and “sole Islamic nuclear state”, Pakistan should not be too unhappy of being placed in a league composed entirely of Mohammadden majority “brotherly” “ummah” countries like Niger and Mali :
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
During the administration of President George W. Bush, Sergei B. Ivanov, the Russian defense minister, proposed that the two sides drop the treaty.
Though the Cold War was over, he argued that Russia still faced threats from nations on its periphery, including China and potentially Pakistan.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 30 Jan 2014 13:38
by Aditya_V
If the US is so worried about their cold war treaties then should not have withdrawn from ABM treaty, Pakistan is an excuse, Russia wants these cruise missiles to target the ABM radars
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Federal Minister for Trade and Textile Engineering Khurram Dastgir has said that Pakistan will not grant the Most Favoured Nation status to India.
means MMS is not going to visit pakiland at least before the gen election. Good.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 30 Jan 2014 19:24
by chetak
^^^
Never understood why we are hell bent on getting the MFN ststus.
What additional advantage would it give us anyway.
Paki clothes and stuff seem to be freely available all over India, mostly being sold by relatives and friends.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 30 Jan 2014 19:33
by abhijitm
^^ not WE, MMS wants MFN status. I think he lives in his own world.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 30 Jan 2014 19:45
by arun
X Posted from the ISI History & Discussions thread.
Bangladesh newspaper, The Daily Star in its reporting on the just concluded trial in the so called “Chittagong Arms Case” implicates the Islamic Republic of Pakistan via her intelligence agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate aka ISI aka ISID in the plot to arm ULFA terrorists:
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 30 Jan 2014 20:21
by arun
X Posted from the Oppression of Minorities in Pakistan thread.
UK’s Telegraph opines that the “rulers” of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan lack the cojones to pardon those that commit blasphemy against Mohammaddenism for fear that their “more pure” co-citizens will have them bull cutletted:
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 30 Jan 2014 21:07
by ramana
abhijitm wrote:^^ not WE, MMS wants MFN status. I think he lives in his own world.
X_post......
AjitK wrote:Shishir has some good sources. He occasionally posts some information on internal security. Worth a follow.
@sisir_gupta - I am told both US/Brit int agencies are trying to convince India for having a tie-up with ISI as not all terror groups r under its control
Another tweet from him:
Pak is telling Anand Sharma tht non discriminatory market access or MFN will be given to India if MMS comes to Islamabad before LS elections
If MMS does this it will be his last nail in Congress coffin.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 30 Jan 2014 21:18
by ArmenT
chetak wrote:^^^
Never understood why we are hell bent on getting the MFN ststus.
What additional advantage would it give us anyway.
Paki clothes and stuff seem to be freely available all over India, mostly being sold by relatives and friends.
India has already granted MFN status to Pakistan for a few decades, that's why their clothes and stuff are freely available in India. What India is trying for is to get the Pakis to grant MFN status to India (i.e.) to freely export Indian goods to Pakistan. Currently, the vast percentage of Indian goods in the Paki market are smuggled in.
Advantage?? About the only advantage is that the prices of Indian goods sold in Pakiland would drop, because the smugglers no longer have to take their cut. Perhaps put fauji enterprises out of business as well.
Or, to put it another way, the demand for Indian goods is already there in Pakistan and J. Abdul Pakistani is already willing to pay the extra price for Indian goods, so Indian companies could still sell their goods in Pakistan at the same prices, but the extra profit will come to the Indian companies, instead of going to the smugglers.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 30 Jan 2014 21:25
by Anujan
There is a school of thought that tightly tying Indian and Pakistani economy will make them think twice before sending in future kasabs. Let's assume we supply electricity and LPG and also there is massive trade and therefore people visiting each other freely. Then that community would desire peace and apply pressure on the government to change. This is viewed as the only sustainable long term solution to the paki terrorism problem: India transforming Pakistan into a normal country with normal aspirations like prosperity and peaceful coexistence.
Whether this is a good idea is anybody's guess.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 30 Jan 2014 21:34
by ramana
In other words restore status quo ante prior to Partition?
All these restrictions were put by Auyb Khan after the drubbing in 1965.
The trade and baksheesh (its bakshesh as otherwise TSP would have to pay more for smuggled goods from India) did not stop them from sending jihadis into Kashmir or invade India in 1965.
This MMS pipe dream is really hafim induced and wont work TSP is even more jihadified now than in 1965.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 30 Jan 2014 23:10
by Anujan
Jihadifying TSP through brainwashing their kids using school textbooks, propagating "central asian horse riding Arabs" myth, becoming more pious ityadi are all attempts at preventing undoing of partition.
The code word for that is "guardian of Pakistan's ideological frontiers" which is what TFTAs claim themselves to be and are now increasingly challenged on that topic by the talibs. Remember kayanis speech that nobody can take Islam out of pakistan?
This poses two problems for them
1. The unwashed now wonder why the elites swill whiskey and blaspheme and want to Qadrify them.
2. The elites want to swill whiskey and travel freely and wonder why they are unwelcome in many countries. Thus the "free visas" gambit with India.
To deal with (1) and (2) they will simply become more two faced. Like how they get baksheesh from unkil and still give out the RAW/CIA/Mossad speech: Shah Mahmood Qureshi, their ex-foreign minister is a great example.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
NEW DELHI : In first case where Pakistan's involvement in printing of fake Indian currency notes (FICN) has been nailed by forensic evidence, an NIA special court on Wednesday convicted all six accused. It is also the first FICN case to be registered under Unlawful Activities Prevention Act (UAPA) making such printing and distribution a terror activity.
NIA had produced evidence through RBI experts and forensic tests by Security Printing and Minting Corporation of India Limited (SPMCIL) to show that FICN features, paper quality and printing quality matches exactly to Pakistan currency and thus could only have been printed by Pakistan government press.
Cheers
What can we do even if our court says that it is land of pure that makes our FICN? this should be taken to international court of justice with complete forensic proofs.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
NEW DELHI : In first case where Pakistan's involvement in printing of fake Indian currency notes (FICN) has been nailed by forensic evidence, an NIA special court on Wednesday convicted all six accused. It is also the first FICN case to be registered under Unlawful Activities Prevention Act (UAPA) making such printing and distribution a terror activity.
NIA had produced evidence through RBI experts and forensic tests by Security Printing and Minting Corporation of India Limited (SPMCIL) to show that FICN features, paper quality and printing quality matches exactly to Pakistan currency and thus could only have been printed by Pakistan government press.
Cheers
rajsundar wrote:What can we do even if our court says that it is land of pure that makes our FICN? this should be taken to international court of justice with complete forensic proofs.
rajsundar Ji :
PIGS WILL FLY!
Cheers
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 31 Jan 2014 04:40
by Peregrine
Anujan wrote:There is a school of thought that tightly tying Indian and Pakistani economy will make them think twice before sending in future kasabs. Let's assume we supply electricity and LPG and also there is massive trade and therefore people visiting each other freely. Then that community would desire peace and apply pressure on the government to change. This is viewed as the only sustainable long term solution to the paki terrorism problem: India transforming Pakistan into a normal country with normal aspirations like prosperity and peaceful coexistence.
Whether this is a good idea is anybody's guess.
Anujan Ji :
1. Supplying Electricity and LNG(not possible) and so it will be Naural Gas by Pipeline (Originally imported in LNG form and "Gassified" at the Indian Port's Receiving Terminal then Piped to Punjab and finally to Pakistan). The Land of the Pure and Home of the Terrorists will not have the Money to pay India and so it will be a case please "Keep Supplying Electricity and Natural Gas and we will pay you soonest". Anujan Ji that "soonest" will never arrive a la "MFN Status"
2. The Land of the pure and Home of the Terrorist has already got Millions of Sleepers in India in the form of its citizens visiting India and not going back. I believe, literally, Tens of Thousands or more Ahmedis have found their way into India as Reguees on the pretext of being victims of Religious Prosecution. In addition in the period 1947-1972 the Port of Kolkata was literally run by Pakistani "Marine Staff" i.e. Tugs, Dredgers, Boatmen, Mooring Gangs etc. They then became Bangladeshis. Most of the Bangladeshis in Eastern India are sympatico with their old masters i.e. ISI etc.
It is downright foolish to hope that the Pakistani Muslims can be weened away from the "Hatred for all Non-Muslims in General and for the Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, Buddhists in Particular."
They have seperated. Let Z. A. Bhutto's Old Statement "Hum Yahan Tum Wahan" be the guideline for India's relations with Land of the Pure and Home of the Terrorists.
Cheers
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 31 Jan 2014 05:08
by saip
This might have been posted before as Pakistan makes another list:
The Best Passports To Have For Unrestricted Travel Around The World
But which are 32 countries that have the b***s to allow the porkies into their country without a visa?
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 31 Jan 2014 05:51
by sadhana
Anujan wrote:There is a school of thought that tightly tying Indian and Pakistani economy will make them think twice before sending in future kasabs. Let's assume we supply electricity and LPG and also there is massive trade and therefore people visiting each other freely. Then that community would desire peace and apply pressure on the government to change. This is viewed as the only sustainable long term solution to the paki terrorism problem: India transforming Pakistan into a normal country with normal aspirations like prosperity and peaceful coexistence.
Whether this is a good idea is anybody's guess.
If they were 'normal' this could have already happened any time in the last 40 years - India certainly offered multiple opportunities and other countries including Umrika offered incentive after incentive. As for undoing partition, since India never ever made the slightest effort to do so, their so-called fear is just fakery or a demon in their own heads.
My hypothesis is there cannot be normalcy because the Pak elite cultivate the self-image of imperialists. It shows up in Pak elites attitudes towards EVERYTHING - history, relations with other countries, their own economy, education and employment policies and domestic power sharing. Anything India does to 'normalize' will also be viewed by Pak elite from the point of view of imperialists seeking total submission/victory over Indians, not as an opportunity to coexist with India.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 31 Jan 2014 07:05
by KrishnaK
ramana wrote:In other words restore status quo ante prior to Partition?
All these restrictions were put by Auyb Khan after the drubbing in 1965.
The trade and baksheesh (its bakshesh as otherwise TSP would have to pay more for smuggled goods from India) did not stop them from sending jihadis into Kashmir or invade India in 1965.
This MMS pipe dream is really hafim induced and wont work TSP is even more jihadified now than in 1965.
2020 is not 1965. India wasn't the economic giant to be that it is today. An Indian economy at USD 5-10 Trillion means we can not only offer carrots but the stick via anybody who wants to trade with India. We should continue to offer them trade. What's the worst that can happen and how long can they resist ?
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 31 Jan 2014 08:18
by partha
Remember the story about how Pakistani policemen protected and saved a Spanish cyclist in Balochistan? Turns out to be fake Some Pakis even went and demanded that Spanish government honor the policemen.
NEW DELHI: Spanish cyclist Federico Javier Colorado Soriano, who narrowly escaped an attack in Mastung, and survived another grenade attack just 12 hours later in the troubled district of Balochistan, has disputed the claim that six levies personnel had died protecting him, Spanish newspaper La Vanguardia reported on Thursday.
Colorado, who spoke to La Vanguardia in the safety of New Delhi , recalled the harrowing events in Balochistan, where he was not allowed to cycle. He told the paper that he was waiting at a check post just 300 meters behind a bus carrying pilgrims, which was attacked with a suicide bomb. His camera was recording at the time and somehow he managed to capture the blast on video. The explosion had killed at least 30 pilgrims and left over 50 injured.
When he contacted his family in Madrid he read the official statement that he was given. But in New Delhi, he uploaded the video and said that he could no longer keep quiet about what had really happened.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 31 Jan 2014 09:03
by Prem
Peregrine wrote:
saip wrote:This might have been posted before as Pakistan makes another list:
The Best Passports To Have For Unrestricted Travel Around The World
But which are 32 countries that have the b***s to allow the porkies into their country without a visa?
Saar ji, Travelling With Baki Green Baassport is great honor and tribute to Jinnah Bhai's TNT gone Global. Paki and the rest of the population on Planet are Two Nations who have nothing remotely in common except shape.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 31 Jan 2014 10:37
by Prem
Zaid Hamid Exclusive 22 January 2014 on Can Pakistan Stop In
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 31 Jan 2014 11:04
by Shrinivasan
JE Menon wrote:>>My concern is that Huma will get a very senior role in the next Clinton administration
Unlikely that Hillary will ever be president, but even if she does there is no chance that Huma Abedin will become Chief of Staff.
Hillary has got the momentum, fund raising ability, Bill Clinton's support and above all Obama's endorsement (eventually). she has the highest name recognition among potential democratic presidential hopefuls. So I would not discount Hillary that much but Huma would not have any whitehouse post, at best she might be some assistant to Hillary but not COS.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 31 Jan 2014 11:59
by Rajdeep
oops double post
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 31 Jan 2014 11:59
by Rajdeep
Rajdeep wrote:
Jhujar wrote:Zaid Hamid Exclusive 22 January 2014 on Can Pakistan Stop Indian Invasion
Please give a gist , the way the motorham was chewing some accent and then the "special" report by some moojaheel f**king with my ears , I couldnt watch it more.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
How long before this cricket issue gets associated with a "just resolution of the kashmir issue"?
Basically as far as Pakistan is concerned while they know that if they support the revised proposal it would mean enhanced financial benefits for them but they are concerned that if the governance of world cricket goes into the hands of India it could create problems for Pakistan cricket because of the long history of strained political relations between the two countries," the source said.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 31 Jan 2014 14:04
by Yogi_G
Jhujar wrote:Zaid Hamid Exclusive 22 January 2014 on Can Pakistan Stop In
Neelum Motorhama is a RAPE's RAPE in terms of accent. American accent, Pakistani conspiracies, SDRE deep down, what a combo!
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 31 Jan 2014 14:15
by Dilbu
ramana wrote:If MMS does this it will be his last nail in Congress coffin.
Ramana saar, unfortunately many people outside BRF believe bull crap like MFN with TSP is a positive step especially when 'a monkey tamasha' type media are just waiting to grab and peddle such news.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
QUETTA: Three Frontier Corps (FC) personnel were killed and four others sustained injuries when a roadside Improvised Explosive Device (IED) exploded near the volatile Awaran district of Balochistan on Friday morning.
FC spokesperson Mohammed Wasay confirmed the death toll and said two of the injured are in critical condition.
“The FC vehicle was on a routine patrol from Awaran to Lesbela on the national highway when it was hit by an IED planted by miscreants,” he told The Express Tribune.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
KARACHI: At least three people were injured, including a policeman, during three separate hand-grenade attacks in Karachi on Friday, DawnNews reported.
A hand-grenade attack was foiled on its own near the city’s Sohrab Goth area. Two suspected miscreants attacked a police mobile van with a hand-grenade which exploded inside their own vehicle, leaving them injured.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Islamabad: Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif Friday chaired a meeting and issued guidelines for holding negotiations to the four-member committee formed to facilitate talks with the Taliban.
Sharif had only one precondition for the talks - that there be no terrorist attacks during the negotiations. The committee comprises Irfan Siddiqui, the prime minister's advisor on national affairs; Rahimullah Yusufzai, a senior journalist; Rustam Shah Mohmand, a former ambassador and expert on Afghanistan affairs and Amir Shah, a former ISI official.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
How long before this cricket issue gets associated with a "just resolution of the kashmir issue"?
Basically as far as Pakistan is concerned while they know that if they support the revised proposal it would mean enhanced financial benefits for them but they are concerned that if the governance of world cricket goes into the hands of India it could create problems for Pakistan cricket because of the long history of strained political relations between the two countries," the source said.
Anindya, The Master has been watching very carefully indeed. After the US determined that defeating the Taliban/Al Qaeda was no longer possible and the avowed ambition of ushering in democracy in Afghanistan could not happen, they changed tack and discovered that the root cause was the India-Pakistan conflict. Since then, they have invaded every aspect of India to make it malleable to Pakistan. Politics, trade, military, films, music, dance & drama, newspapers, thinktanks, everywhere we have seen American influence and invasion. There are plenty of Mir Jaffers who have collaborated with the US in India. So, we are not too sure that the Masters had not 'looked at' the cricket issue at all in the past knowing fully well that it touches an emotional chord in both the countries.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 31 Jan 2014 15:39
by anupmisra
Yogi_G wrote:Neelum Motorhama is a RAPE's RAPE in terms of accent. American accent, Pakistani conspiracies, SDRE deep down, what a combo!
That is not an American accent. She is trying too hard.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Posted: 31 Jan 2014 16:04
by SanjayC
Anujan wrote:There is a school of thought that tightly tying Indian and Pakistani economy will make them think twice before sending in future kasabs. Let's assume we supply electricity and LPG and also there is massive trade and therefore people visiting each other freely. Then that community would desire peace and apply pressure on the government to change. This is viewed as the only sustainable long term solution to the paki terrorism problem: India transforming Pakistan into a normal country with normal aspirations like prosperity and peaceful coexistence.
Whether this is a good idea is anybody's guess.
Strange that the big gorilla of Islam never finds a mention in these equations when the entire Pakistani population and its world view is totally driven by religion. These planners maybe think that by not mentioning it, perhaps it will go away.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
Akiljit Kaur grew up hearing stories of her grandfather’s journey on the train from Pakistan; the truck ride to the railway station; the long, hot journey on a train so packed there was no room to move; the killings, how many he never counted.
Like millions of Partition refugees, Sardar Gurbachan Singh struggled to build a life in India — laying the foundation for Ms. Kaur to study at Delhi University’s prestigious Lady Shri Ram College.
Now, 65 years later, Ms. Kaur is hoping she’ll have a seat on a train to Pakistan: Delhi University’s ‘Gyanodaya Express’, an annual cross-country travel opportunity for students which will, for the first time, be headed across the border.
Dinesh Singh, Delhi University Vice-Chancellor, said the proposed visit to Pakistan was “an exercise in building bridges between the young people of both these countries”.
Dr. Singh said the group would stay in Pakistan for a week, visiting the Lahore University of Management Studies, and the frontier town of Taxila.
The train is meant to be a kind of college-on-wheels — an opportunity to experience life and culture.
Kamla Nehru College student Simple Rajra is also hoping to be on the train, eager to see the country where her grandparents met, fell in love and married. Ms. Rajra’s grandparents, Ms. Rajra says, were inseparable as children, and once even ran away together, leading the whole village to search for them.
Their families were separated during the chaos of Partition, as they fled across what is now the Line of Control in Poonch. The families were resettled, though, in the same village in India — leading, eventually, to Ms. Rajra’s birth.
Her grandparents, however, never again saw the river bank where they used to meet — and Ms. Rajra hopes she will fulfil their dream.
The Vice-Chancellor said he hadn’t been able to be present through earlier Gyanodaya Express trips through India.
“But I will most probably accompany the students on this trip,” he said.
“We will open applications on first come, first served basis during the university’s Anthardhvani Festival, which begins on February 14,” Dr. Singh said.
He added that the university would “be giving those students who apply during the festival priority over those who apply through their college or department later”.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014
The Pakistan Cricket Board was paid around USD 58 to 60 millions as its share of the International Cricket Council (ICC) events held in the present cycle of eight years, which ends in 2014. (PCB chief Zaka Ashraf calls for emergency meeting to discuss ICC draft)
A well-informed source told PTI that this amount didn't include the compensation amount of around USD 15 million that PCB got from the ICC after the 2011 World Cup matches were moved from Pakistan due to security reasons.