Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec 2014

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^^ this should give us a clue about where covert action (if instituted) should create pain.

The Jernails and Kernails should have their phamily jewels squeezed until raisins start looking like footballs in comparison. Only then we Bakis be quiet.
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Interesting thing is Bakjabis will get even more blood thirsty in there zarb-e-cleansing endeavor. Resulting in even more violent retributions from Pashtuns. With this Bakistan has crossed into the next rung of escalation (or descending ) into the abyss.

Soon there will be deserts and camels and horse riders from the steppes riding in the 7th century culture that Arrah wanted for the Bakistanimal. AoA onleeee

Our goal should be to make sure any Baki who dreams of getting his 72 in India, get it before he even crosses the border.
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 570963.cms
A day after a Rawalpindi anti-terrorism court granted bail to Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi, the key handler in the 26/11 Mumbai attacks case, India has conveyed its strong concerns and sentiments of people to Pakistan through diplomatic channels, MEA spokesman Syed Akbaruddin said.
I think even Stephen Colbert would find it difficult to control his urge to laugh at the statement - "strong concerns" and "sentiments of people" communicated through "diplomatic channels". This is low quality journalism.
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Anujan wrote:From TFT. No wonder Bad Sharif got a fire lit under his musharraf

[*quote]Steadily and sickeningly, we are getting more details of the massacre at the Army Public School, Peshawar, on December 16. This day of horrors included the terrorists accosting a teacher at the school, asking if she was a brigadier’s wife. When the lady said “yes”, she was tied to a chair, doused in kerosine and set alight in front of her pupils. It appears the terrorists initially tried to pick out the children of army officers before beginning their indiscriminate massacre. When some innocents raised their hands to a question, “whose father is in the army?”, they were done away with brutally.
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There is also the the fear that this could become the template for future retaliation and worse if green vs green competition starts then sky would be the limit.
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there is a video somewhere on the internets of these TTP types yahoos playing football with heads of some unfortunate Frontier Constabulary (policemen in NWFP) types who were captured from a check post somewhere.

So behaviourally this is nothing new or radical.
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Twitter watch:
Imaan Sheikh ‏@SheikhImaan 12m12 minutes ago

LAKHVI RE-ARRESTED! To maintain public order! #PakWithIndiaNoToLakhviBail #hellyeah
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There is no single right answer to the question - "Do you have any relatives in army"? The right answer depends on whether it is sarkari approved terrorists or not. Side effects of good taliban and baaad taliban.
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i think they did it for his own safety.
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anmol wrote:Image :roll:
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pankajs wrote:Doesn't Indian reaction to Lakvi's release make it harder for both the good and the bad Sharif to put him back?
There was never any intention on their part to detain him in the first place. It was a drama under American pressure because they did not want any trouble for Pakistan from India on that account while their operations were still going on in Afghanistan. After all, Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi is a co-founder of LeT along with Professori and is close to the Pakistani Army. For his part, the Nawaz Shariff family is very close to Professori and even attends his annual ijtima. Nawaz's brother allocates state funds through the Budget for the LeT. Why should these gentlemen therfore even contemplate putting Lakhvi back in jail?

Now, TSP claims that it will detain him under Maintenance of Public Order (MPO) act. What a laugh riot this !

Akram Lahori, Chief of LeJ, was arrested in 2002 in Karachi but was released as there was ‘no evidence’ against him. Malik Ishaque, co-founder of LeJ, was in jail until c. 2011 though he has been acquitted in 34 cases and given bail in the remaining 10 cases. He was released after the Ahl-e-Sunnat-wal-Jama’at (ASWJ as SSP has renamed itself) chief, Maulana Muhammad Ahmed Ludhianvi, a close ally of the ruling PML-N party in the Punjab, negotiated a secret deal with him on behalf of the Punjab Government. He spent 14 years facing charges related to murder and other terrorist acts. While in jail, he was given a stipend by the Punjab Government and also provided with a cellphone. He was set free in July 2011 but was detained under ‘house arrest’ which was only in name because he was freely moving about with impunity. The State has extended his detention in the ‘interests of public order’ under the ‘Maintenance of Public Order Ordinance’. However, on Jan. 20, 2012, the Review Board of the Lahore High Court refused to detain him any further under ‘house arrest’ and set him free.
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There is also a video of TFTAs lining up some random Pashun Kids against a wall. Asking them to recite Kalima and then shooting them.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2010 ... 86823.html

This is not new for them.
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Praveen Swami in the Indian Express:
The Pakistan army’s Zarb-e-Azb offensive in North Waziristan, the war that built up to the Peshawar carnage, is the latest in a series of similar campaigns: Rah-e-Rast, Rah-e-Nijat, Sher-Dil, Khyber 1, Khyber 2, even the farcically-named Daraghlam (I’m Coming), Bia Daraghlam (Here I Come Again) and Khwakh Ba De Sham (I’m Going To Fix You). Zarb-e-Azb has, military experts agree, gone further in targeting jihadist combat units than its predecessors.

Yet, these offensives have done nothing to erode the actual reach and influence of jihadism across the country. The army has, in particular, remained allied to pro-government jihadists east of the Indus, in the plains of Punjab and in Sindh. The state may fight jihadist fighters, but not their project.
- See more at: http://indianexpress.com/article/opinio ... nightmare/
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From P.Swamis' article:
even the farcically-named Daraghlam (I’m Coming), Bia Daraghlam (Here I Come Again) and Khwakh Ba De Sham (I’m Going To Fix You).
Is this real or satire? :shock: :shock:
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http://tribune.com.pk/story/809293/pm-n ... situation/
RAWALPINDI: Accompanied by Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif visited General Headquarters in Rawalpindi to meet Chief of Army Staff General Raheel Sharif, Express News reported on Friday.
Head Chaprasi of GHQ summoned.
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Aasim Sajjad Akhtar wrote this in the Dawn:
http://www.dawn.com/news/1151694
Tragedy can precipitate momentous change. The government-commissioned Hamood-ur-Rahman report confirmed that a sweeping overhaul was necessary if what remained of Pakistan was to emerge on the other side of 1971 bolder, better, and more just. In short, we had an opportunity to write a new script, to come to terms with the fact that the hitherto conceived ‘Pakistani nation’ was a myth that just did not correspond to our existing material reality.

Sadly, although in hindsight, predictably, we decided only to reassert our ‘Islamic’ essence with greater vigour than before. One argument is that the roots of ‘Islamisation’ can be traced to the early 1970s, before the coming to power of the Zia junta, when a thoroughly demoralised military establishment initiated a covert programme to finance and train guerrilla fighters — those who soon afterwards became known as the mujahideen.

Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, Burhanuddin Rabbani and others who would become prized ‘strategic assets’ — all had been patronised by the Pakistani security apparatus for years before the Soviet ‘invasion’ of Afghanistan. The politics of jihad was not a defensive reaction to the communist superpower, it was a well-thought-out, long-term strategy to change the face of the region, and indeed Pakistani society itself.

In the final analysis, then, the depths plunged between March and December 1971 did induce change. More than four decades later, there can be no gainsaying just how much the jihadi infrastructure and ideology have transformed our lives.

Yet, predictably, we simply refuse to acknowledge the historical choices and political-economic structures that have given rise to a form of violence that is eating away at our collective psyche. Within hours of the attack on Tuesday, everyone and sundry was chanting the standard slogans about wiping out the last of the terrorists, and backing our heroic soldiers.

We have heard it all before, and it is very likely that we will hear it again. Only two weeks ago I wrote on these pages about the need to critically interrogate what the North Waziristan operation has truly achieved. That half a dozen men dressed in paramilitary uniforms marching into an army-run school in broad daylight and killing more than 130 children in cold blood only induces nationalistic refrains about taking ‘Zarb-i-Azb’ to its logical conclusion is an indicator of just how emaciated our political imagination has become.

The truth is that we refuse to see the political economy of jihad for what it is. There are dozens of political organisations in the mainstream — including those in elected government — that cobble together a statement or two in the wake of such incidents, but never venture further because to do so would be to implicate themselves.

Lest we forget, it was only a few short weeks ago that the former emir of the Jamaat-i-Islami Munawwar Hasan announced that ‘Qital-fi sabilillah’ is mandatory for all pious Muslims. Many would see this as an invocation to the types who carried out Tuesday’s attack.

Most implicated, it would appear, are the men in khaki themselves. I do not feel the need to be politically correct and avoid criticism of our esteemed top brass just because it was an army-run school that was the scene of Tuesday’s horror. Indeed, it is precisely the fact that too many of us remain silent about the military establishment’s patron­age of the politics of jihad that allows the jihadi infrastructure to strengthen further with each passing day.

One day something will have to give. In the media, in our schools, on the floor of parliament, maybe even within military barracks — the historical myths and ideological edifices of ‘Pakistaniat’ will have to be subjected to public censure. We will have to explode the falsehood that is Pakistani exceptionalism. We will have to call a spade, a spade.

Till now, the only language in which this dialogue has taken place is that of violence. Whether it is the violence of the ‘terrorists’ or the violence of the state, both claim legitimacy in the name of Islam. They are two sides of the same coin.

Only when religion is separated from the affairs of the state will there be hope of stopping the carnage. This does not amount to a conspiracy against Islam, as the mullahs scaremongering always suggests. It means only to say that religion does not have to be the source of all legitimacy, particularly in the realm of politics.

Jihad has been mainstreamed by the generals and their ideologues across the length and breadth of society. And it is in the trenches of this brutalised society that the decisive phase of this battle must be fought.

The writer teaches at Quaid-i-Azam University, Islamabad.
He is no doubt a RAW Agent infiltrated into Kafristan.
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Shreeman wrote:
Rishirishi wrote:I think Modhi was well aware of the intentions within Pakistan Army. The 2 min silence was a great move. Now he has shown the soft side and reached out. Now he has created more room to take a stronger position if needed. The 2 min came at no cost.
Misphortunately, no. Nothing is free. But it is not a discussion for this thread.

Summarily my position remains that tactical brilliance is good in the field among the jawaan and the NCO. Strategic thought should not be held hostage to petty incidents.
To disagree with conventional thought - here is my tuppaise:

NaMo and AD will be both the jawan and the Affsaran in this case, I believe. So all tactics and strategy is theirs to play.
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http://sharafs.wordpress.com/
I attended the funeral of Shaheed Mrs Tariq wife of Brigadier Tariq Saeed at Mardan yesterday. I paid respects to the bereaved family and prayed with them.
The details I got are chilling. The militants had detailed instructions and knew names of specific individuals to be targeted. After they broke fire, they were getting constant orders on Russian wireless sets. It is also suspected that they had some accomplice within the school. Wireless intercepts revealed that they had orders to locate and burn Mrs. Qazi and Mrs. Saima Tariq, both wives of military officers. In the auditorium, they singled her out, shot her in the arm and then poured phosphorous {?}over her. During this chilling episode she was yelling at terrorists in Pushto not to kill the children.
Mrs. Tariq was a PhD from UK and teaching at the school. She was eight months pregnant.
The school is located outside the cantonment premises and had very little protection. There were only two Askari Guards and no police. The Quick Reaction Force arrived after 17 minutes, had no contingency plans and ill prepared to seize the situation.
It is normal practice that mobile squads of QRF and Elite Force are stationed close to likely soft targets. In this case, it appears that nothing was coordinated. The school was a sitting duck.
Brigadier Tariq Saeed https://www.facebook.com/tariq.puma
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As per Hamid Mir, not only were they talking to handlers in Afghanistan, but also some calls were made to Bahawalpur in Pakistan. 13:00 onwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXyl0TxbgMI
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pankajs wrote:There is also the the fear that this could become the template for future retaliation and worse if green vs green competition starts then sky would be the limit.
Targeting wife and children of pakmil afsars specifically.
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sum wrote:Is this real or satire?
Of course, for real.
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12:48 200 Pakistani pilgrims refused entry into India: India has refused entry to around 200 Pakistani pilgrims who wanted to visit Sarhand Sharif near Ludhiana to attend the annual Urs of Hazrat Mujaddid Alif Sani.

When pilgrims reached the Lahore railway station to board the Samjhota Express, they were informed that India had not allowed their entry due to security reasons, the Dawn reports.
good
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Blog by someone called Agha Humayun Amin, a retired Pakistani Major.

http://csi-ops.blogspot.com/2014/12/pak ... cians.html
CONTRADICTION

PAKISTAN IS SUPPORTING 90 % OF AFGHAN TALIBAN IN AFGHANISTAN.

SO PAKISTAN IS EXPORTING AN IDEOLOGY IT REFUSES TO ACCOMMODATE INSIDE PAKISTAN !

PAKISTANS KEY DECISION MAKERS ARE WEAK

NAWAZ SHARIF

BECAME PRIME MINISTER AS AN ETHICALLY CHAUVINISTIC ISI AND ARMY FAVOURED A PUNJABI PRIME MINISTER.

INTELLECTUALLY AN ABSOLUTE FAILURE ! IN STRATEGY POSSESSES ZERO INSIGHT !

WILL NOT BE ABLE TO LEAD AN EFFECTIVE WAR AGAINST TERRORISM OR ANY OF PROBLEMS FACING PAKISTAN.

GENERAL RAHEEL SHARIF

NOT A FIELD COMMANDER . STRATEGIC INSIGHT LIMITED . NOT AS DECISIVE AS PAKISTANS PRESENT PROBLEMS NEED A COMMANDER TO BE. WILL PROCRASTINATE , OR RUSH INTO DECISIONS PAKISTAN WILL REGRET.


HAS LIVED IN SHADOW OF TALES OF HIS ELDER BROTHERS COMPANY LEVEL BATTLE AND THIS PERHAPS WAS DECISIVE IN HIS ASCENT TO PRESENT RANK.

CORPS COMMANDERS

EXCEPT TWO ITS A PATHETIC LOT ! I WROTE DEMI OFFICIAL LETTERS TO 3 I KNOW AND ALL 3 WERE DISCOURTEOUS ENOUGH NOT TO REPLY OR CALL BACK.NORMAL COURTSEY ! BUT THIS FAILING IS MUCH SMALLER THAN THEIR STRATEGIC AND OPERATIONAL FAILINGS !

CGS

SAID TO BE A MAN OF SUBSTANCE BUT WHAT WOULD A MAN OF SUBSTANCE DO IN A SEA OF MEDIOCRITY !

DG ISI

A FINE MAN BUT WOULD BE INEFFECTIVE IN A BUREUCRATIC NON PROFESSIONAL ISI WHERE PETTY PERSONAL INTEREST DOMINATES NATIONAL STRATEGIC INTERESTS.

IN A NUTSHELL PAKISTANS NEW STRATEGY WOULD LEAD TO FOLLOWING:--


A LOW TACTICAL LEVEL LIMITED NUCLEAR WAR WITH INDIA IN KASHMIR.
AFGHANISTANS DIVISION ON ETHNIC LINES.
PAKISTANS GREATER DESTABILISATION ON ETHNIC LINES AND POSSIBLE BALKANISATION.
GREATER ALIENATION OF PASHTUNS AND BALOCH WHO HAVE BEEN USED LIKE CONDOMS AND TOOLS SINCE 1947.
PAKISTANS SLIDE INTO SLOW CHAOS TILL IT IS DENUCLEARISED.

I AM BEING PUNISHED FOR STATING THE TRUTH SINCE 1983 !

IN FIRST INSTANCE I ENCOUNTERED A MAN OF CHARACTER

GENERAL ARIF BANGASH ! BUT SINCE 1984 I ENCOUNTERED SHAMELESS WINDBAGS !

MY FEAR IS TAT WE WILL SEE COLLAPSE OF A FINE ARMY CREATED BY ENGLISH EAST INDIA COMPANY IN PAKISTAN. AND WORLDS FIRST MODERN MUSLIM STATE CREATED ON USING ISLAM AS A CONDOM TO PURSUE CORRUPT IDEALS !

I AM WILLING TO PLAY A PART BUT I AM ISOLATED IN A SOCIETY WERE ASS KISSIN AND BALL LIFTING IS REAL IDEOLOGY OF PAKISTAN !
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deejay wrote:
Shreeman wrote:quote="Rishirishi"I think Modhi was well aware of the intentions within Pakistan Army. The 2 min silence was a great move. Now he has shown the soft side and reached out. Now he has created more room to take a stronger position if needed. The 2 min came at no cost.

Misphortunately, no. Nothing is free. But it is not a discussion for this thread.

Summarily my position remains that tactical brilliance is good in the field among the jawaan and the NCO. Strategic thought should not be held hostage to petty incidents.
To disagree with conventional thought - here is my tuppaise:

NaMo and AD will be both the jawan and the Affsaran in this case, I believe. So all tactics and strategy is theirs to play.
I specifically fear hyphenation, if national response to this event is out of sync with another of the same scale as say the event in nigeria yesterday/today which is at the same scale along the same lines. But we have moved on to jail/bail. Daily prayers against violence perhaps, specifically in the madrassas?

Still, we can but speculate at the broader motive. Not ours to make that sort of guesswork. There is nothing wrong with wearing your civilsation on your sleeve, as long as it is not used to defend the despicables.
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I prefer Pakis to release Lakvi and then he, Saed, UJC leaders and Pakistani generals should celebrate as 26/11 team around 1.5KM from LOC. The venue details should be published before hand.

In fact he is more safe and comfortable in prison than out of it.
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The mood in Peshawar
http://www.dawn.com/news/1151547
“What happened in Warsak (Road) was a conversation, an extreme conversation,” said a civilian official speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss security policy. “They are saying, ‘You pick up our people, you oust them from their homes, we’ll kill your people.’ We are militarising our problems, not solving them. This is a permanent war,” the official added.

After the multi-party conference, a Peshawar politician belonging to a major political party offered a similarly downcast assessment of the political class: “Nothing will come of this. They are all terrified. Nawaz Sharif never wanted this, not even Zarb-i-Azb. Imran Khan wanted only dialogue. And what’s Khursheed Shah going to do other than make statements?”
About Gen Raheel’s dash to Kabul, a security official said: “Afghans are going to demand a quid pro quo. We’ll show them one (intercepted militant) conversation, they’ll show us another. We’ll ask them for one thing, they’ll ask us for another. Are we ready to offer them something?”
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partha wrote:Blog by someone called Agha Humayun Amin, a retired Pakistani Major.

http://csi-ops.blogspot.com/2014/12/pak ... cians.html
This guy is a typical product of Pakistan. He is unable to comprehend the real challenges facing Pakistan or the real causes of its present condition. He wants to go along the beaten track because treading the beaten track is institutionalized in that country.
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TFT on Pak strategy:
http://www.thefridaytimes.com/tft/strategic-drift/

Quote:

The biggest concern for Pakistan is what former ISI official Nasir Ahmed calls “spoilers in the region” who are not happy with the new friendship between Islamabad and Kabul. “They include Al Qaeda, the Haqqanis, and India.”

- See more at: http://www.thefridaytimes.com/tft/strat ... cDDJo.dpuf
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Quote:
. We need to separate our Allah from that of the Taliban. Our Allah needs to be more inclusive, more pluralistic, more tolerant and most importantly, more popular than the Taliban’s. - See more at: http://www.thefridaytimes.com/tft/separating-our-gods/
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Lok Sabha Passes Resolution Against Lakhvi Bail - New Indian Express
The Lok Sabha on Friday passed a resolution against the bail granted to LeT commander Zaki-ur Rehman Lakhvi, who is accused of being the mastermind of 2008 Mumbai terror attacks, by a Pakistan court.

The resolution asked government to take every step to put pressure on Pakistan to bring the matter related to 26/11 attacks case to a satisfactory conclusion.

Earlier talking in the House Prime Minister Narendra Modi said India had strongly conveyed to Pakistan our sentiments over the bail to the LeT commander.

Modi said bail to Lakhvi had come as a "shock" to all those who believe in humanity worldover.

India's approach towards Pakistan on the issue will be in tune with sentiments expressed by members, said Modi after MPs voiced outrage in the House.


External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj said India does not accept the theory that Lakhvi be released on bail. Rejecting the argument that the evidence against Lakhvi was not sufficient, Swaraj demanded Pakistan immediately get this decision overturned.

An anti-terrorism court in Islamabad Thursday granted bail to Lakhvi, who is among the seven people charged with planning and helping to carry out the Nov 26-29, 2008, Mumbai terror attack which left 166 people, including many foreigners, dead and injured hundreds of others.

However, Lakhvi has now been detained under the Maintenance of Public Order (MPO) at Rawalpindi's Adiala Jail, according to a media report.
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SSridhar wrote:
partha wrote:Blog by someone called Agha Humayun Amin, a retired Pakistani Major.

http://csi-ops.blogspot.com/2014/12/pak ... cians.html
This guy is a typical product of Pakistan. He is unable to comprehend the real challenges facing Pakistan or the real causes of its present condition. He wants to go along the beaten track because treading the beaten track is institutionalized in that country.
SSji, his comments on bad Shariff is what caught my eye.
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From TOI:
India urges Pakistan to put Lakhvi back in jail
Pakistan Govt puts Lakhvi back in jail
Nawaz Shariff is an Indian agent. PTI youthias were right all along :mrgreen:
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SSridhar wrote:
partha wrote:Blog by someone called Agha Humayun Amin, a retired Pakistani Major.

http://csi-ops.blogspot.com/2014/12/pak ... cians.html
This guy is a typical product of Pakistan. He is unable to comprehend the real challenges facing Pakistan or the real causes of its present condition. He wants to go along the beaten track because treading the beaten track is institutionalized in that country.
he speaks well, and I can appreciate something like this.

WORLDS FIRST MODERN MUSLIM STATE CREATED ON USING ISLAM AS A CONDOM TO PURSUE CORRUPT IDEALS !
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Please be informed that Pakistan itself is a victim of terrorism and is fighting the war on terror as a front line non-nato ally. Pakistan has lost 50,000 50,142 (updated dec 16th, 2014) of its citizens to the war on terror, besides billions and billions of dollars as well as a motorway.
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Cyril Almeida in the Guardian, UK:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... sts-mumbai
Yes, Pakistanis are united against terrorism. But not on terrorists
Militants who target India will always be good taliban. So an alleged architect of the Mumbai attack can be released two days after Peshawar
There is the obligatory sentence about Modi, which I omit.
Ultimately, Pakistan’s problem with militancy is not denial. It is not even ignorance. It is something quite different. Simply, it is the widespread belief that militants fighting the Indian state, militants fighting to free “Indian-held Kashmir”, militants fighting the Afghan government and militants fighting to “free” Afghanistan are not militants. They are the good guys. The righteous ones brave enough to take on the world in the name of the one true God.

The problem was never denial. The problem is the paradigm. The Afghan Taliban are not militants. Lashkar-e-Taiba – LeT –are not terrorists. And, even more insidiously, there are those within Pakistan who do not believe that Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan is in the wrong.

Instead, the belief is that the Pakistani state itself is on the wrong path. A democratic path. A path that keeps it in thrall to American, godless, anti-Islam interests. A path that takes Pakistan far from that of the religion in the name of which it was ostensibly created.

That’s really why it’s possible for Pakistan to stun the outside world – two days after the horror of Peshawar – by granting bail to one of the alleged architects of the Mumbai attack, Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi of the officially banned LeT. That’s why it’s possible for Pakistan to confound the world by rejecting global sympathy over the Peshawar attack and embracing LeT instead.

The Lakhvi bail is not a surprise. In truth, it is the inexorable outcome of recent events in Pakistan. Consider just what happened in Lahore, the provincial capital of Punjab and the heart of political power in Pakistan, on 4 December.

Imran Khan, the leader of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI), had been trying to oust the government of Nawaz Sharif via street protests since August, and threatened to shut down Lahore that day. But within hours of Khan’s announcement on 30 November, the PTI appeared to realise it had made a mistake: the Jamaat-ud-Dawa, a hardline Islamist organisation, was holding its annual congress in Lahore on 4 and 5 December. And so the PTI quickly postponed its protest.

Pause on that for a moment. The business of toppling a national, elected government had to take a back seat to the annual Lahore pilgrimage of Hafiz Saeed, the chief of Jamaat-ud-Dawa.
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RCase wrote:Er, hanging doesn't befit the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Keeping with true Islamic traditions, shouldn't the punishment be beheading?
Pakistani Army is the Hangvi School of Terrorism, which clearly shows Nassara influence and thus makes them the Low Jihadis.
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saravana wrote:
anmol wrote:Image :roll:
why ij it mohotarma's bijiness?
Mohtarma should realize that pressing Pksitans case will result in the build up of inner pakistaniyat, which causes nausea and discomfort. She has to realize that with Swacch Bharat Abhiyaan pledge, people will not let her do it in the open.
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^^^ Some "old timers" here (I think it was about 3 years back), would recollect that she was the original "inner Bakistani" person, who claimed that every Indian had an Inner Bakistani in them (which of course gets dumped out everyday in the AM).
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This fellow, apart from killing, etc., threatens that "Pakistan ko un mein ghusao".
http://youtu.be/LF4sSOslHyI
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Pakistan's double game continues, Al Qaeda training Indians
December 19, 2014
An Al Qaeda training camp is operating just a few hundred kilometers from Peshawar where Indians are being trained to conduct attacks.
http://headlinestoday.intoday.in/progra ... 07648.html
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