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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 14:56
by Manish_Sharma
http://swarajyamag.com/insta/close-clin ... ing-emails
Close Clinton Ally Gave $467,500 To Wife Of FBI Official Investigating Hillary’s Missing Emails

Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe, who is a Democrat and a key ally of Bill and Hillary Clinton, gave $467,500 to the campaign of the wife of an FBI official who later led the probe of Hillary Clinton’s mishandling of classified information.

According to an explosive investigative story by The Wall Street Journal, McAuliffe’s political action committee donated to the 2015 Virginia state Senate campaign of Dr. Jill McCabe, the wife of then-associate-deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe.

The WSJ reports:

The Virginia Democratic Party, over which Mr. McAuliffe exerts considerable control, donated an additional $207,788 worth of support to Dr. McCabe’s campaign in the form of mailers, according to the records. That adds up to slightly more than $675,000 to her candidacy from entities either directly under Mr. McAuliffe’s control or strongly influenced by him. The figure represents more than a third of all the campaign funds Dr. McCabe raised in the effort.

Dr. McCabe, launched her campaign in March 2015 and was eventually defeated by the Republican incumbent Dick Black.

Andrew McCabe was then promoted to deputy director, a role in which he had an oversight of the Clinton e-mail investigation.

The FBI released a statement reiterating that Mr. McCabe had “played no role” in his wife’s political campaign and was promoted to deputy months after it had ended.”

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 15:22
by Gus
Manish_Sharma wrote: Gus, I am posting with civility without ever making a personal comment about you or any other hilary supporters.

These personal attacks you are starting, for the record I am letting it pass this once. Next time I will start abusing back....
yeah well all that does not work when you start posting from alex jones infowars.

what next? stormfront?

I get it. you REALLY REALLY hate hilary, and you REALLY REALLY want trump. I don't have a problem with that as such. but that does not mean you start posting from infowars.

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 16:14
by panduranghari
Gagan wrote:Guys,
Is trump really going to win?
All the polls say hillary has a >10% lead.
Republicans might lose the congress and then the senate too, is the buzzword doing the rounds inside the beltway
As per the charts, S&P is expected to correct by the end of the month. If it does, the stops will be pulled out and market will be forced to levitate. Fed has a meeting on 2 November, I think. In a falling market, the incumbent party looses. And as per experts, the market is at the moment lagging the real data of the polls by 2 weeks. Its all up in the air at the moment. Of course only IMO.

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 17:18
by UlanBatori
Gus wrote:
Manish_Sharma wrote: Gus, I am posting with civility without ever making a personal comment about you or any other hilary supporters.
These personal attacks you are starting, for the record I am letting it pass this once. Next time I will start abusing back....
yeah well all that does not work when you start posting from alex jones infowars. what next? stormfront? I get it. you REALLY REALLY hate hilary, and you REALLY REALLY want trump.... that does not mean you start posting from infowars.
Oh, wow! THANKS, Gus! I had no idea there was such a site. :mrgreen: U mean, like
REPORT: VOTES SWITCHED FROM TRUMP TO HILLARY IN TEXAS "She voted straight Republican and the vote had changed to Clinton!"
Paul Joseph Watson - OCTOBER 25, 2016
Or this one
Director of Elections Runs From Reporter When Asked About Election Fraud Top election official terrified of the press!
Infowars.com - October 24, 2016
or
Alleged Clinton Fixer: ‘New York Times Has Become the National Enquirer’ Jeff Rovin unveils identity on 'Hannity,' suggests he bought off reporters for the Clintons. Lifezette - October 25, 2016
or Hillary Plotted Fake 'Grassroots' Campaign Using Celebs to Con Youth Into Voting For Her
or
Increasingly Excitable Hillary Fan on Internet Forum Threatens Promises Personal Attack on Postors Who Quote from InfoWars :eek:

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 17:28
by Hitesh
UB if you think Alex Jones is a guy to be believed seriously then I got a bridge in Florida to sell to you. I mean I have no qualms about making money off people who should know better.

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 17:29
by Gagan
Poof !

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 17:31
by Gagan
Another thing I have been keeping tabs on is how the Donkeys are spending money into organizing people to get in to vote.
The Republicans are not doing that still.

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 17:32
by UlanBatori
Hmm! Trump is not alone in telling mohtermas to lose weight
Roses are red, my love;
Violents are blue.
Ice-cream is FAT my love;
But not as fat as you!
Miss Iceland's response to body shaming
Miss Iceland 2015 says she no longer has interest in competing after the owner of the Miss Grand International beauty pageant told her to lose weight. Source: CNN
Oh! I forgot to get permission! :eek: Gus, I hope it's OK if I post from CNN?

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 17:38
by Gus
seriously..your trolling stopped being fun long back.

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 17:49
by Yagnasri
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/ ... o-win.html

I am not sure what will happen but I will not write off DT yet. If HC and her gang are doing it they may be doing a big mistake.

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 18:11
by UlanBatori
Managing a Campaign in Bimbostan :eek: :shock:

So how does a guy who is supposedly anti-wimmens :oops: Disrespectful Of Wimmens (DOW) stake his political life on a (married) mohterma, while the Savior of Women and Minorities depends on a (hu else?) WASP?

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 18:14
by UlanBatori
Hitesh wrote:UB if you think Alex Jones is a guy to be believed seriously then I got a bridge in Florida to sell to you. I mean I have no qualms about making money off people who should know better.
Per Diktat-e-Adminullahs I am not supposed to respond directly to certain (never mind) who make a habit of vicious personal attacks but they don't feel any need obey the same rules? MUST be a Hillary Fan!! :idea:

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 18:19
by habal
Gus, can I post from "the young turks" ?? They are running an online smear campaign on Trump. But I hope that is ok.

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 18:31
by Manish_Sharma
If one types "Political science professor Helmut Norpoth" there are many other sites that are giving same news.

Strangely the site link is being attacked but not "Political science professor Helmut Norpoth" who has been getting it right for last 20 years, 5 times. And there are other colleagues of his who agree with him.

Plus he also points out that same polls got "Brexit" wrong. These are facts... these should be countered....

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 18:35
by Gus
Let's just settle this the old fashioned way. Put your money where your mouth is. Simple as that. There's already mort and mups.

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 18:36
by Manish_Sharma
I don't gamble !

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 18:50
by habal
Manish_Sharma wrote:If one types "Political science professor Helmut Norpoth" there are many other sites that are giving same news.

Strangely the site link is being attacked but not "Political science professor Helmut Norpoth" who has been getting it right for last 20 years, 5 times. And there are other colleagues of his who agree with him.

Plus he also points out that same polls got "Brexit" wrong. These are facts... these should be countered....
he'll soon be identified by mainstream media as a conspiracy theorist. And maybe a story of how Prof. Helmut Norpoth molested a miss universe finalist budding intern.

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 19:01
by Suresh S
What Alex Jones is saying is mostly accurate. What CNN, ABC, NBC, FOX, Washington post and NewYork Trash are saying is mostly lies. And yes Trump will win.

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 19:54
by Gagan
I think we should ban Gus for a few days.
He is not contributing anything positive, carries out personal attacks against posters and is generally a troll.

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 20:06
by GShankar
Yesternight over a formal dinner with a group of 7, I posed a queschun - will jersey go to HC? Almost everybody said yes. 2nd queschun - you voting to billary? - 3 said (1 said out loud and 2 nodded) I'll vote for mickey mouse before. Rest did not answer but hehe haha.

I gave them full disclosure that I don't have a vote here. Seems to me that Mr. DOW's (taking UB's newest acronym here) loudmouth has created quite a few closet supporters.

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 20:37
by Viv S
Yagnasri wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/ ... o-win.html

I am not sure what will happen but I will not write off DT yet. If HC and her gang are doing it they may be doing a big mistake.
Every mainstream media outlet in the country keeps saying Trump is losing badly. They say this as if it’s fact. And based on many polls, it does look that way.

But so did Brexit. That was the vote for UK to leave the EU. No one anywhere in the establishment…or media…or any major politician thought it would pass.

But it did.

I believe this is our Brexit. And I’m putting my money where my mouth is. I’m betting big on Donald Trump to win the election. Here’s why.
Nate Silver's statistical model at FiveThirtyEight is giving Clinton a 86.5% chance of victory, while the betting market is averaging 91%. But that is still is not 100% and unlikely as it may be, Trump could still win.

That being said, lets put this "but the Brexit polling was wrong" canard aside once and for all.

https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/

^ Scroll down for a full list of polls.

Its quite clear that the race was a dead heat leading up to the referendum with a majority of polling over the last 30 days showing the Leave campaign tying or leading the race. Basically, the commentators & analysts may have gotten it wrong, but the polls got it right... mostly.

Same for the primary that Trump won. The commentators & analysts (incl. Silver) got it wrong but the raw polling was correct and showed Trump winning a plurality of likely voters (in a three horse race).

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 21:08
by Falijee
Professor Who Predicted Last Five Elections Says Trump Has 87% Chance of Winning
Helmut Norpoth still confident despite polls showing Hillary ahead
Political science professor Helmut Norpoth, who has accurately called the results of the last five presidential elections, still asserts that Donald Trump has an 87% chance of defeating Hillary Clinton despite Clinton being ahead in the polls.Norpoth’s model has correctly predicted the outcome of the popular vote for every election since 1996, including the 2000 race where Al Gore won the popular vote but George W. Bush took the presidency.
“It usually turns out that the candidate who does better in his party’s primary beats the other guy who does less well,” said Norpoth, adding that Trump’s margin of victory in New Hampshire and South Carolina compared to Clinton (who lost in New Hampshire) was crucial to his model.
The other factor is the “swing of the pendulum,” which makes it far more likely for a change of government if one party has been in power for two terms.Norpoth said he has gone “all in” on a Donald Trump victory and is sticking with his bet.
“There are also quite a few colleagues of mine who have a prediction that Trump is going to make it,” added the professor.
Many Trump supporters are now claiming that the media narrative that the election result is a foregone conclusion is a trick designed to convince potential Trump voters to stay home on November 8.A confidential memo allegedly obtained from Correct The Record, a Democratic Super PAC, reveals a plan to “barrage” voters with high frequency polls that show Hillary ahead in order to “declare election over,” while avoiding any mention of the Brexit vote (which completely contradicted polls that said Brexit would fail).Emails revealed by Wikileaks show how Democratic operatives planned to encourage “oversamples for polling” in order to “maximize what we get out of our media polling.” In other words, sample more Democrats than Republicans in order to make people believe that Hillary’s lead is far greater than the reality of a tight race.Norpoth’s forecast of a Trump victory mirrors what’s taking place in the betting markets, with British bookmakers William Hill revealing last week that 65% of all bets on the market have backed Trump to win the election, a similar phenomenon to what happened before the Brexit vote, where the polls were proven completely wrong.
Michael Moore: Trump’s Election Will be the Biggest “F**k You” in History
His voters will "get to blow up the whole God damn system"

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 21:43
by UlanBatori
Manish_Sharma wrote:I don't gamble !
Manish, I am worse: I don't type with my mouth! :(( And putting money in mouth is a bad practice. Now, now. Just to placate our increasingly anxious HiC fans:
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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 21:53
by UlanBatori
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Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 22:00
by Gus
Info wars getting traction in brf.. unbelievable.

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 22:20
by ramana
Gus,
Don't mind lekin but you are baiting folks. If you think HRC wins so be it. No need to rub it in.

Same to folks who are doing it to Gus.

PS: Every event some BRF get warned and worse banned.

Don't be in that category.

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 22:30
by Gus
Go ahead..knock yerselves out with stuff from infowars.

It is effing sad to see brf being lowered to such depths.

Ahead of the curve alright. Championed by the great N3. Gus Out..

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 22:31
by abhik
Infowars credibility is as low or as high as most american MSM outlets.

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 26 Oct 2016 00:03
by UlanBatori
What next? Some Paki portal will diss UBC News, hain?
This just in: 91% of media hostile to DOW
BTW, we are making this Voluntary Disclosure:
1. Nothing that happens between now and the Election has any impact on our vote(s) if any in the US Election.
2. Opinion on relative stinkiness of the 4 candidates is expressed below:
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BUT... it is HUGELY entertaining to see some postors here exhibiting the full range of behaviors from Tantrum Toddler to Wailing Whino. Right now they seem to be all HiC fans, probably after ElectionDin it may be DOW fans. :rotfl: But if DOW were to win after all this 10-point landslide margin etc etc, the entertainment should be priceless.

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 26 Oct 2016 00:31
by UlanBatori
Trump finds unexpected support for Rigged Election claim: George Will is one of the most respected of old-style Republican columnists
(meaning I don't usually agree with him on anything)
“[Trump] sweeps all his grievances into one big puddle,” Will said. “He talks about the media, he talked about the primaries, he talked about the polls, he talked about the Republican National Committee.”
Will added that most Americans think of government intervention when they think of a rigged election, and believe past elections have been rigged by the IRS.
The Democratic fight against voter ID laws also does not appear to be innocent, according to Will.
“[Democrats] say, ‘Well that burdens the exercise of a fundamental right,’” said Will. “The Supreme Court has said that travel is a fundamental right. No one thinks that showing an ID at the airport burdens that fundamental right.”

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 26 Oct 2016 00:36
by UlanBatori
Shiv will recognize the caption of this picture: THOUSANDS EXPECTED TO ATTEND TRUMP RALLY.
See? Republicans actually stand in line. Democrats graze all over like donkeys.

Hmm! Drudge Report cites story from INFOWARS!! Nah! Maybe they got that off BRF.

Meanwhile: Oiropeans to send Observers to Obamastan to Observe Election-Rigging and learn.

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 26 Oct 2016 00:51
by UlanBatori

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 26 Oct 2016 01:38
by vijayk
Trump supporters should actually blame Trump for his plight.

He can't stay on message. He could have put Hillary's scandals on the focus but keeps uttering or attacking vulgarly. So easy to insult him and provoke him. Oe day it is Khan, one day he mocks a reporter, one day some senator, one day he starts off fight with Republicans leader....

It seems Hillary used a psychologist to provoke him in the debate. He self destructed.

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 26 Oct 2016 01:51
by UlanBatori
Depends on one's perspective, Vijayk. Many of his diehard supporters want him to do exactly that. Think MGR supporters.... Ppl who get tingles down their spine when they hear Clint Eastwood mutter
Go ahead, make mah day!
would probably love his style. At least I thought he won ALL 3 'debates' and HiC self-destructed by her amazing level of dishonesy, shiftiness and nastiness (in my view) in each of those. Trump was absolutely observant when he said "She's full of hate!" - I was also thinking the same whenever she was not grinning her switch-on canine grin. Uggggghhhhhhh!

The second one, despite blatant media bias. The media bias was also evident in the VP debate, where they totally failed to shut off the mike on the disgusting twerp Caine who kept interrupting and talking over Pence's time.

So I think all this stuff about HiC "winning" any debate is Goebbelsian. There was zero substance to her, and she was all slimy and evasive. DT's problem was that he was too busy landing small punches, and he had clearly decided ***NOT*** to try any substantive explanation or discussion of issues. That may seem very shallow to you or (a much younger version of ) me, but I've seen what happens when ppl try debating issues in the POTUS debates. Reagan-Carter 1980. Reagan-Mondale 1984. Bush-Dukakis 1988. In each of those "substance" was crushed, show and bluster triumphed. Dukakis was a jerk, he allowed himself to be torpedoed by the "Card-Carrying Member of ACLU" cr*p (er... whole point of ACLU is that one should **NOT** have to carry a card, unlike Bush's Skull&Bones Club..) and the "What will you do if ur wife is raped?" taunt. Kerry, Romney and McCain were deserving losers.

The phrase "sowing pearls b4 (the Debate-Watching Public)" comes to mind. Most ppl simply have no ability to pay attention and think about what the candidates are saying. So DT sticks to such deep statements as
Make Amurica Grate Agin!
The man's a real-estate vendor. Knows a thing or two about selling to people. I was stunned to see his Campaign Manager Mohterma (c above). Anyone who makes a choice like that, picks people on merit, and is no dummy.

We'll see around 8pm EST on Nov. 8 (or is it 10pm EST?) Given that 40% votes are supposedly being cast in early balloting, maybe the media will violate the guidelines and "project" starting at noon, I don't know. Catch Californians and Hawaiians as they are waking up..

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 26 Oct 2016 02:15
by UlanBatori
Posting again: U really need to read this, even though it is CNN
Trump's campaign manager is a telegenic Mohterma. Neither she nor her boss is a dummy, IMHO.

How many POTUS candidates have had female campaign managers I wonder. Certainly none in my memory. If Trump wins, this is the Chief of Staff at the WHOTUS, the most powerful position in 'Murica.

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 26 Oct 2016 02:35
by Anant
Ulan Batori,

Your memory must be short then. Donna Brazile was Al Gore's campaign manager in 2000. She's both female and African American.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donna_Brazile

And Trump will lose in an electoral landslide. I know this will crush the scholarship on this forum but I sincerely think this forum has become bizzaro world, where up is down and left is right. At least it satisfies in providing daily amusement. Sane posters and sane posts long ago disappeared. Too bad!

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 26 Oct 2016 02:48
by UlanBatori
Didn't know Al Gore HAD a campaign manager, it was such a disastrous campaign. Never mind, I see that she is maintaining her record of being a disaster.

Saying "I was Al Gore's Campaign Manager" is a bigger smile-getter than
"I was Chief Helmsman on the Titanic"
"I was Chief Strategist for L'Armee de France at Dien Bien Phu"
"I was Field Tactician for the Brazilian Soccer Team for the semi-finals of the 2014 World Cup"

Disasters unite: Al Quolin "WMD" Bin Powell decides to vote for HiC

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 26 Oct 2016 02:50
by Rudradev
^^Al Quolin has, for a while, been campaigning loudly for Hillary Clinton. She's the biggest disaster he's advocated for since the Iraq War itself (or perhaps, since the decision to ignore Paki nuke proliferation by saying "the past is the past").

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 26 Oct 2016 02:56
by UlanBatori
Now that Mullah Holbrooke is shaheed (pbuh) AQ bin Powell may be shooting for SoS again. Experience Matters. If u were a disaster b4, u can be a Catastrophe now.

Re: Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Posted: 26 Oct 2016 02:58
by komal
UlanBatori wrote:Didn't know Al Gore HAD a campaign manager, it was such a disastrous campaign. Never mind, I see that she is maintaining her record of being a disaster.

Saying "I was Al Gore's Campaign Manager" is a bigger smile-getter than
"I was Chief Helmsman on the Titanic"
"I was Chief Strategist for L'Armee de France at Dien Bien Phu"
"I was Field Tactician for the Brazilian Soccer Team for the semi-finals of the 2014 World Cup"

Disasters unite: Al Quolin "WMD" Bin Powell decides to vote for HiC
Al Gore won the popular vote and he also won Florida. However, the election was stolen by George W. Bush's brother and that theft was affirmed by 5 Supreme Court justices appointed by Republicans (and these justices also said that decision can never be used as a precedent).