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Pappu is never interested in any census. He is just interested in propaganda

https://x.com/MumbaichaDon/status/1827659381539754440
This post must go Viral.

"When we were with CONgress & conducted caste census in Bihar- Rahul Gandhy was called twice to the meeting to pass proposal on caste census, But he didn’t attend even once":- Lalan Singh (JDU)

Rahul Ghandy's caste census is just to Keep 20% together & divide 80% Hindus in castes.
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Critical Theory - this BS from the Marxist idealogy school is spawned by Harvard, etc. in the West. Rajiv Malhotra talks about it in his Snakes in the Ganges book. Believe me these are real snakes that we are dealing with. The western guys are the modern Joseph Goebbels of the world, they came from the Eurotard nations that produced such characters. It is a "western defect" of the world in mankind. Pograms are their outcome. 200+ Million Indians were killed during the BritShitRaj era and the Brits are cousins of the Germans. BritShit General Dyer of JallianwalaBagh fame hunted not only animals but humans too. The amount of people who died because of Western rulership and wars far exceed those of any other tribes, a close second are the Islamic hordes. Actually, there is a prof in Univ of Hawaii who has tabulated all such killings around the world.
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Coming back to Census of India the GOI has the India Stack and they have up-to-date information which can be used to glean census data. I am talking about big data processing. Private companies may have some data, but they don't have accurate data, it is all based on data samples and projection to the larger set which is really a bunch of BS.

So what data does GOI have. It has phone data, transaction data, aadhar card, multitude of other cards, passports, etc. Just using cell phone data, you can figure out where a person lives within a radius. Exceptions can be dealt with separately and they are usually a rounding error for calculation purposes. Actually, the phone registration should have your address entered into a database, which the Govt can tap into. There are many other cards that have similar data. Transaction data should reveal even more information about your spending and your whereabouts. Then there is bank data too. So many redundant systems have all the necessary data. Which calls into question why a census is needed at all.

Time to modernize the working of GOI and the biggest stumbling block is the entrenched Babucracy.
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This is the most valid question raised in Parliament!

Who gives the right to 5 Judges in SC to decide fate of 140 Crore Bharatiyas & that too when they are self-appointed in Collegium System, with no accountability?

Judicial overreach in Parliamentary Rights must be stopped!




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how many janeu wearing brahmin politicians have married dalit women so far

doesn't charity begin at home
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Shehzad Poonawala slammed the Congress leader saying, “Rahul Gandhi is now down to caste profiling & religious profiling of Ms India winners (which is a private competition/ event)…What is clear is that Rahul Gandhi is neither serious nor truthful about this issue.

By the way who made the first Adivasi as President of Bharat – NDA”
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The Union Cabinet chaired by the Prime Minister, Shri Modiji today approved the unified scheme ‘Vigyan Dhara’ to promote S&T capacity building, research, innovation & technology development towards strengthening the Science, Technology and Innovation ecosystem in the country.
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bala wrote: 25 Aug 2024 20:36 Coming back to Census of India the GOI has the India Stack and they have up-to-date information which can be used to glean census data. I am talking about big data processing. Private companies may have some data, but they don't have accurate data, it is all based on data samples and projection to the larger set which is really a bunch of BS.

So what data does GOI have. It has phone data, transaction data, aadhar card, multitude of other cards, passports, etc. Just using cell phone data, you can figure out where a person lives within a radius. Exceptions can be dealt with separately and they are usually a rounding error for calculation purposes. Actually, the phone registration should have your address entered into a database, which the Govt can tap into. There are many other cards that have similar data. Transaction data should reveal even more information about your spending and your whereabouts. Then there is bank data too. So many redundant systems have all the necessary data. Which calls into question why a census is needed at all.

Time to modernize the working of GOI and the biggest stumbling block is the entrenched Babucracy.
All this makes no sense at all. This isn't North Korea or the CCP that invades its citizens' rights with impunity. In India or any other free country the sarkar has no right to tap into people's cellphone data/location patterns, credit card/aadhaar/banking patterns, etc for random purposes. Private companies collect a lot of data, but are not authorized to let the sarkar access it. It requires an order/warrant in individual cases of law enforcement or other permitted matters.

The census collects significant information ideally in person. The current questionnaire from 2011 is shown here: https://censusindia.gov.in/census.website/CENSUS_ques

Why is it that posts can't display basic civic sense and understanding of citizens' rights instead of unloading juvenile garbage on random things that catch fancy? I made a short post on the upcoming census, and immediately there is a barrage of posts attacking the census itself with stream of consciousness verbal diarrhea.
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^^ What do you think is census data collection - nothing to do with privacy concerns by the Govt? Kya stupidity being displayed. What is with you and consciousness - keep dragging this in every silly sentence of yours.
Do me a favor don't respond to anything I write.
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chetak wrote: 25 Aug 2024 23:50 how many janeu wearing brahmin politicians have married dalit women so far

doesn't charity begin at home
:mrgreen:
Sirji - I think there should be a govt ordinance' that mandates all Congress politicians must have:

1. Their personal security detail to be made up of only reserved category personnel.
2. Medical treatment meted out to them to be only reserved category from capitation colleges. No overseas hospital visits and AIIMS doctors.
3. Pilots for their private jets must be flown only by those from reserved categories.
4. Their children must be prevented from attending colleges or universities in other countries.
5. All contracts for party (Cambridge analytica, posters, social media, media spokespersons, political analysts, rally organizers etc.) must only be from reserved category.
6. MPs and MLAs and CWG must have majority SC/ST/ OBC office bearers. Minority janeu wearing brahmins must not hold any official decision making posts.
7. Require every Congi to have their children married to only reserved category spouses.
8. Make every Congi to sign an affidavit declaring half their wealth to be donated to reserved category persons.
9. Mandate all snobs like Shampoo Boy, Jai Ram Ramesh, Kapil Sibal, Rajmata, Pappu, Pappi and Robber to perform street and public toilet cleaning every week as public service.

Let them lead by example rather than shedding crocodile tears. It is high time that all the Durbaris around the Famiglia declare their caste publically.
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Q. Why hasn't RaGa dated or intended to marry a Dalit or Tribal woman? Why is he cavorting with firang women? Let the janeu dhari brahmin lead by example.
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RCase wrote: 26 Aug 2024 12:37 Q. Why hasn't RaGa dated or intended to marry a Dalit or Tribal woman? Why is he cavorting with firang women? Let the janeu dhari brahmin lead by example.
:((.. I am surprised why bjp is not taking this joker to the cleaners.. but if you wrestle with a pig you can end in sh!t
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Since election, BJP literally became toothless and scared.
Kangana attacked foreign support to Farmer agitation whose goal was to create BD in India. BJP literally disowned her.
Now US consulate is meeting farmers. BD border forces are firing at India Border Polcie fencing the border.

Today they are literally scared and have not even attacked Mamta or Pappu supporting her. There are so many CONgi lawyers supporting Mamta in SC over rape/murder of young doctor. BJP simply shut their mouths. Start associating SP/CON/TMC as rapist alliance.

https://x.com/ANI/status/1828022982775595196
The statement made by BJP MP Kangana Ranaut in the context of the farmers' movement is not the opinion of the party. BJP disagrees with the statement made by Kangana Ranaut. On behalf of the party, Kangana Ranaut is neither permitted nor authorised to make statements on party policy issue: BJP
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This is what Modi/Amit Shah did to BJP.
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Kangana Ranaut has some spunk and does straight talking, I like her guts and shraddha. Why is BJP stifling free speech. They did similar things with Nupur Sharma too.
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bala wrote: 26 Aug 2024 19:15 Kangana Ranaut has some spunk and does straight talking, I like her guts and shraddha. Why is BJP stifling free speech. They did similar things with Nupur Sharma too.
May be Haryana elections ...
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Shah creates 5 New Districts in Ladakh



https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 38080.html

The Ministry of Home Affairs has decided to create five new districts in the union territory of Ladakh, said home minister Amit Shah on Monday.

In a post on X, Amit Shah said the creation of new districts will take the benefits meant for the people to their doorsteps by bolstering governance in every nook and cranny.

He attributed the decision to Prime Minister Narendra Modi's vision to build a developed and prosperous Ladakh.

These districts are – Zanskar, Drass, Sham, Nubra and Changthang.

"In pursuit of Narendra Modi's vision to build a developed and prosperous Ladakh, the MHA has decided to create five new districts in the union territory. The new districts, namely Zanskar, Drass, Sham, Nubra and Changthang, will take the benefits meant for the people to their doorsteps by bolstering governance in every nook and cranny. The Modi government is committed to creating abundant opportunities for the people of Ladakh," Shah wrote on X.
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The WAQF BOARD has claimed an entire village - Fatwa, as their property in Bihar.

In Fatwa village, 95% of the population is HINDU.

The Waqf Board has asked to vacate the village in 30 days.
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bala wrote: 26 Aug 2024 19:15 Kangana Ranaut has some spunk and does straight talking, I like her guts and shraddha. Why is BJP stifling free speech. They did similar things with Nupur Sharma too.
bala saar,

auntie is a political novice who hogs the limelight needlessly. She's got five years to go, and that's more than enough time to make her mark

she thinks too much of herself and is headstrong, both qualities not majorly required in politician anywhere

she should take care that she does not go down the same path as Sadhvi Pragya and end up sidelined and discarded by her own party

she does not realize that the presstitutes are just baiting her so that she slips up and flames out, because for these presstitutes, the BJP and all BJP MPs are the enemy

This is not free speech but foolhardy speech


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Chetak saar,

Thanks for the update and some details.

In democracy there are going to be different voices and curtailing them due to fear of some outside forces is not the way to go about things. Kangana and others are saying the obvious. Let it play out however crude they may be. BJP high command can privately deal with "what to say" and educate their cadre. However we have to be careful not to fall for the Plastic snake like smiles of a Blinken or vile machinations of a Vicky Nuland and her ilk in the state dept of the US. Some public countering, sometimes good offence is needed, can't play defence all the time. Raulluah G Khan and his other BIF pals are always throwing kerosene laced flame darts at the ruling BJP. He needs some major fire on his backside, some of them are coming from the court rulings soon.


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bala wrote: 26 Aug 2024 22:06 Chetak saar,

Thanks for the update and some details.

In democracy there are going to be different voices and curtailing them due to fear of some outside forces is not the way to go about things. Kangana and others are saying the obvious. Let it play out however crude they may be. BJP high command can privately deal with "what to say" and educate their cadre. However we have to be careful not to fall for the Plastic snake like smiles of a Blinken or vile machinations of a Vicky Nuland and her ilk in the state dept of the US. Some public countering, sometimes good offence is needed, can't play defence all the time. Raulluah G Khan and his other BIF pals are always throwing kerosene laced flame darts at the ruling BJP. He needs some major fire on his backside, some of them are coming from the court rulings soon.


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bala saar,

or the crafty buggers got her to say it and then, by arrangement with her, denied it.

Plausible deniability and also message delivered
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chetak wrote: 26 Aug 2024 20:49
This is not free speech but foolhardy speech
I have to agree. This is a matter of obeying party policy and rules, not about speaking out on ethics issues/whistleblowing.

There is a reason why the party has official spokespersons and executive committee members who communicate the party policy/decisions. If everyone and sundry starts making random statements, it will be chaos.

MP Ranaut (or any other MP) could offer her professional opinions within the party setup. But differing publicly from the party line on important/sensitive matters is counter-productive....successful politics is not done this way.

She is a novice of course. I am guessing she will be more disciplined in future.
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In Jharkhand, changes are afoot....another family corruption party (JMM) slowly breaking up:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 817836.cms

From what I read, Champai Soren is generally known to be an honest poltoo.

Let us see how things shape up ahead of the election. It is very interesting, the three states coming up for election (HR, JH, MH) all have complex politics at the moment. The union territory of JK is also interesting.
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chetak wrote: 26 Aug 2024 20:48 The WAQF BOARD has claimed an entire village - Fatwa, as their property in Bihar.

In Fatwa village, 95% of the population is HINDU.

The Waqf Board has asked to vacate the village in 30 days.
These swine will no longer be able to pull such tricks after a few months. A similar "claim" occurred in a TN village in 2022, the villagers are not going anywhere.
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bala wrote: 26 Aug 2024 19:15 Kangana Ranaut has some spunk and does straight talking, I like her guts and shraddha. Why is BJP stifling free speech. They did similar things with Nupur Sharma too.
Nupur is back in BJP good books. They never abandoned her. Her mistake of speaking too much outside the line Govt wanted to take. As a spokesperson she needed to be careful with words. There were complex negotiations with Qatar going on with regards to our servicemen.

Kangana - do we really trust her? she is an actor. may be she makes statements as per direction of political wind and be in limelight.
OR may be govt asked her to make statements independent of Govt/party line and then distanced itself. the genie of her statements is now out. it cannot go back. this is complex play. lets wait and watch, before arriving at judgements.

This govt in general has suppressed anything that can heat up the situation. preferring to handle all critical issues behind closed doors. loose cannons have been discouraged/sidelined.
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Zuckerberg admits facebook influencing US elections. US platforms did it in India too. Its time we bring them to account and impose hefty fines and restrict their operation in India.
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1) Press charges against Meta, Google, Twitter (the old gang), Wikipedia etc for stealing data & manipulating narratives
2) Issue arrest warrants against their execs

If the Telegram CEO can be arrested because he refused to play ball with the FBI, Zuck-the-crook can be put behind bars for life

If the West whines about "suppression of free speech" etc, tell them that's precisely why these actions are taken. Then throw the names Pavel Durov, Julian Assange & Edward Snowden in their faces

Heck, the Republican Party will actually cheer for us. That's one good way to exploit fault-lines & introduce bheda
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BJP has called for a 12 hour strike in West Bengal tomorrow in response to police 'lathi charge' on protestors.

Kolkata Police has succeeded in holding back protestors from Nabanno today. I would say that in the presence of media, they actually were able to manage well and restrain from firing.

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A Deshmukh wrote: 27 Aug 2024 11:27
bala wrote: 26 Aug 2024 19:15 Kangana Ranaut has some spunk and does straight talking, I like her guts and shraddha. Why is BJP stifling free speech. They did similar things with Nupur Sharma too.
Nupur is back in BJP good books. They never abandoned her. Her mistake of speaking too much outside the line Govt wanted to take. As a spokesperson she needed to be careful with words. There were complex negotiations with Qatar going on with regards to our servicemen.

Kangana - do we really trust her? she is an actor. may be she makes statements as per direction of political wind and be in limelight.
OR may be govt asked her to make statements independent of Govt/party line and then distanced itself. the genie of her statements is now out. it cannot go back. this is complex play. lets wait and watch, before arriving at judgements.

This govt in general has suppressed anything that can heat up the situation. preferring to handle all critical issues behind closed doors. loose cannons have been discouraged/sidelined.
I am sorry to disagree with you. As far as Nupur case, it was Modi who dumped her first before Qatar picked it up. i had posted based on time line long time back. if BJP had stood the ground that would not have happened. Qatar used it to get wheat negotiations as it was afraid that Modi government might not give wheat.

Modi while taking back the farm law had stated "“I have said this earlier also that farm laws were brought in for the benefit of farmers, but have now been withdrawn in the interest of the nation. I don't think this needs to be explained anymore. Future events will make it clear why these steps were necessary”. what future events that made clear why these steps were needed? was it election in Punjab and Haryana? on the other hand all the states in India except Punjab and Haryana were happy with it. there were no protest or even talk against except it anywhere- other than 2 states.

BJP has a history of letting its supporters down. what Master stroke explanation we can provide for killing and rape of Bangal BJP supporters & workers? when it was in full majority did not act on waqf, Places of worship act or even freeing of temples. look at congress, it has filed a case on A370 in SC cant BJP do it when they were passed?

lets support where we need does good and pull them up where they do not. BJP letting down its karyakarthas and support base is where we need to really pull BJP's collar and question.
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https://x.com/aravind/status/1828384424137760964
It is very important that the center call a press meet today and a senior leader, may be even the HM, address the media to call out west bengal actions against the peaceful protestors. This is very important and need of the hour in this case.
GOI needs to get in front of media for briefings. Not sure what their stupid problem is and why they let scums like PAPPU or Tikiat run their nefarious agenda. If they officially respond, they can avoid Kangana kind of mess. Just don't know what their strategy is ...
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madhu wrote: 27 Aug 2024 17:17
A Deshmukh wrote: 27 Aug 2024 11:27
Nupur is back in BJP good books. They never abandoned her. Her mistake of speaking too much outside the line Govt wanted to take. As a spokesperson she needed to be careful with words. There were complex negotiations with Qatar going on with regards to our servicemen.

Kangana - do we really trust her? she is an actor. may be she makes statements as per direction of political wind and be in limelight.
OR may be govt asked her to make statements independent of Govt/party line and then distanced itself. the genie of her statements is now out. it cannot go back. this is complex play. lets wait and watch, before arriving at judgements.

This govt in general has suppressed anything that can heat up the situation. preferring to handle all critical issues behind closed doors. loose cannons have been discouraged/sidelined.
I am sorry to disagree with you. As far as Nupur case, it was Modi who dumped her first before Qatar picked it up. i had posted based on time line long time back. if BJP had stood the ground that would not have happened. Qatar used it to get wheat negotiations as it was afraid that Modi government might not give wheat.

Modi while taking back the farm law had stated "“I have said this earlier also that farm laws were brought in for the benefit of farmers, but have now been withdrawn in the interest of the nation. I don't think this needs to be explained anymore. Future events will make it clear why these steps were necessary”. what future events that made clear why these steps were needed? was it election in Punjab and Haryana? on the other hand all the states in India except Punjab and Haryana were happy with it. there were no protest or even talk against except it anywhere- other than 2 states.

BJP has a history of letting its supporters down. what Master stroke explanation we can provide for killing and rape of Bangal BJP supporters & workers? when it was in full majority did not act on waqf, Places of worship act or even freeing of temples. look at congress, it has filed a case on A370 in SC cant BJP do it when they were passed?

lets support where we need does good and pull them up where they do not. BJP letting down its karyakarthas and support base is where we need to really pull BJP's collar and question.
Right now PAPPU is throwing kerosene all over India to lit fires on Pensions, farm support prices, Wealth distribution, caste census, and Islamic terrorists.
US is meeting with far right Islamist terrorist groups, J&K terrorist political groups, farmers, CMs to destabilize NDA
We are spinning our own strategies in BD, Russia, Ukraine. Biden called Modi on Ukraine. Modi called Putin. Very sensitive time
US/Canada are using Khalistanis, Islamists to start fires all over India
So Kangana should reach out to BJP leadership before talking to media
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NDA GETS RAJYA SABHA MAJORITY!

BJP 96, NDA 112!

9 BJP members & 2 from allies (NCP & Rashtriya Lok Manch) elected unopposed in by-polls for Rajya Sabha.

NDA also has support of 6 nominated & 1 independent MPs.

LET THE GAME BEGIN

Ps- Vacant seats of President Nominated members also to filled soon.
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madhu wrote: 27 Aug 2024 17:17
A Deshmukh wrote: 27 Aug 2024 11:27
Nupur is back in BJP good books. They never abandoned her. Her mistake of speaking too much outside the line Govt wanted to take. As a spokesperson she needed to be careful with words. There were complex negotiations with Qatar going on with regards to our servicemen.

Kangana - do we really trust her? she is an actor. may be she makes statements as per direction of political wind and be in limelight.
OR may be govt asked her to make statements independent of Govt/party line and then distanced itself. the genie of her statements is now out. it cannot go back. this is complex play. lets wait and watch, before arriving at judgements.

This govt in general has suppressed anything that can heat up the situation. preferring to handle all critical issues behind closed doors. loose cannons have been discouraged/sidelined.
I am sorry to disagree with you. As far as Nupur case, it was Modi who dumped her first before Qatar picked it up. i had posted based on time line long time back. if BJP had stood the ground that would not have happened. Qatar used it to get wheat negotiations as it was afraid that Modi government might not give wheat.

Modi while taking back the farm law had stated "“I have said this earlier also that farm laws were brought in for the benefit of farmers, but have now been withdrawn in the interest of the nation. I don't think this needs to be explained anymore. Future events will make it clear why these steps were necessary”. what future events that made clear why these steps were needed? was it election in Punjab and Haryana? on the other hand all the states in India except Punjab and Haryana were happy with it. there were no protest or even talk against except it anywhere- other than 2 states.

BJP has a history of letting its supporters down. what Master stroke explanation we can provide for killing and rape of Bangal BJP supporters & workers? when it was in full majority did not act on waqf, Places of worship act or even freeing of temples. look at congress, it has filed a case on A370 in SC cant BJP do it when they were passed?

lets support where we need does good and pull them up where they do not. BJP letting down its karyakarthas and support base is where we need to really pull BJP's collar and question.
Madhu Saar,
Actually I think you have the time lines mixed with respect to Nupur sharma's case. India was already negotiating with Qatar on food grains/wheat issue. Nupurs Statements blew up 10 days after it was made courtesy of clip manipulator, fact checker and islamist using that to shout against the Modi govt. Venkaih Naidu's state visit was also pre-determined. Now conspiracy theorists can point that Qatar could have planned this and all that to get a better deal, but in absence of any extra evidence it is just that.People like Sanjay Dixit in jaipur Dialogues and the rest might say we could have threatened Qatar govt (true as it may be, India has refrained from threats especially with the workforce and gas issues and has always negotiated in private).
And it was the BJP that provided Nupur Sharma with protection after details of her phone and family addresses were made public. She is popular that if she stands in some places in Delhi or western UP due to her firebrand nature she can win or get considerable votes.

The Modi govt has never opened it cards or explained it actions in detail to supporters or detractors alike ( take surgical strike or even demonetization), the govt announces a decision and the supporters and detractors get on social media platforms to make sense of it.

I have not understood BJP's action with regards to Bengal elections violence, but it is also true that it was RSS and BJP that provided temporary safe shelters for people fleeing their homes and escaping to Tripura or Assam. The question here should be on mamata bannerjee's govt for the violence rather than training guns on self. Even if you dismiss mamata's govt it will come back on bengali pride with an additional bonus that Modi is dictator and is dismissing state govt for not towing his line.

And for the people who keep saying that Modi govt should have done things when they had full majority, there are a few things for which you need to wait. you need to build enough public perception or momentum and also check numbers in both houses at that time. the govt could have had an ordinance brought for Ram Mandir as well if it so chose in 2014, but went through the Supreme court long and arduous effort to win the land on merit and also to silence a section of muslims who said they will take Supreme's decision but not a govt one even if passed by the parliament. Consequently now you have a land instead of in 2014 in 2019 without any bloodshed.

Waqf land has been sent to committee for deliberations, its by no stretch done deal, meanwhile people can uncover what gems the Waqf does to occupy the land from legal residents for the momentum to build and it is important to blunt any street demonstrations or protests that will be out by the peaceful people to "protect their interests".

Farm laws protest or any other protests these days are meant to have maximalist demands so that even the protesting party knows that govt will not agree and that keeps the protest going. All protests look for people to be sacrificed for a cause while the yogendra yadavs, the kejriwals, the rahul gandhi's watch from the sidelines to create martyrs for the cause and then milk it for elections. The govt has denied that to these andolan jeevis at the cost of public perception and everyday inconvenience.

The govt has not taken action because when a strict police action is taken the common folk who are supporting the govt will turn around and say but these are our own people who are misguided so the govt should have negotiations with them rather than lathi charge them ( i can vouch for this line of argument on student protests or farmer protests from my extended family members, but they keep listening to the next to useless telugu media so there's that). the most recent wrestlers protests have their martyrs and heroes ready for the khaps to support them for the haryana elections.

The people who say no farmers no food should have been asked/trolled mercilessly that how did the farmer survive when the protest went for a year and who tended to his farms if he was protesting?
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One way for the BJP to blunt the Rahul offensive is to get on the ground and spread the canard that if congress comes to power and does caste survey it will either give the unused one to muslims or reduce the caste reservations percentage as it currently stands. (they have already given obc quota to muslims in karnataka).

the argument can be brought as the current reservations cannot go beyond 50% and if it cannot go beyond 50%, then the existing reservations will be played around with. that means OBC's and SC/ST reservations will be given to peacefuls and congress supporting jathis like Jaats, Marathas. Also point that Karnataka congress govt got caste survey done 10 years ago and didn't do anything.

Since Pappu is relishing in throwing kerosene this will light the same kerosene behind his back.

of course this shouldn't come from BJP's spoke person, other wise with u-turns, masterstoke it will be lost.
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venkat_kv wrote: 28 Aug 2024 07:15 of course this shouldn't come from BJP's spoke person, other wise with u-turns, masterstoke it will be lost.
sir there is no master stroke. i feel BJP do not know to do politics. why not pressurize Congress and Rahul to revile caste census in Karnataka? if BJP do not want to do it openly why not outsource them to other people?
recently Siddu told
Nearly 10 years after it was commissioned, the caste census in Karnataka remains under wraps, with Chief Minister Siddaramaiah still non-committal about its release. “I still have not seen the report. It needs to come to the Cabinet for a discussion. I’ll keep it before the Cabinet,” Siddaramaiah told reporters last week.
BJP should deal with a spade with a spade is what most of the hardcore supporters want.
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venkat_kv wrote: 28 Aug 2024 07:15 that means OBC's and SC/ST reservations will be given to peacefuls
+1.
They can use Mayawati, Chirag Paswan, Ramdas Athavle, Raj Thackarey, and others like them to say Cong wants to give reservations to the peacefuls.
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venkat_kv wrote: 28 Aug 2024 07:04 Actually I think you have the time lines mixed with respect to Nupur sharma's case. India was already negotiating with Qatar on food grains/wheat issue. Nupurs Statements blew up 10 days after it was made courtesy of clip manipulator, fact checker and islamist using that to shout against the Modi govt.
i am not convinced sir. India bans exports of wheat, citing threat to its food security on May 15. this was in
. more over it was only in Venkaih Naidu's state visit which is ofcourse pre-determined the same issue was brought up and got assurance, this was conformed by MEA on June 6th

nupur incident happened on 25th May but Qatar summoned Indian envoy only on June 5th.
The question here should be on mamata bannerjee's govt for the violence rather than training guns on self. Even if you dismiss mamata's govt it will come back on bengali pride with an additional bonus that Modi is dictator and is dismissing state govt for not towing his line.
on this point i am with you. i dont want Modi to do anything when Mamata is doing mistake over mistake. dismissing mamata now will create sympathy wave towards her. let her suffer. but the question is just like Mamata or Congress who help Bangladeshi Muslims to settle in India, why not help Hindus to settle. don't do it officially do it the way these people do.

just look at congress. as soon as they come to power they take care of there votebank. even Modi should do it. he should work more towards Hindus and not bother about Muslims. because they dont vote him even if he gets katna put a skull cap and do namaz. better to help the people who vote for him.

take another example. Congress used dhruv rathee and zoobear why not BJP use righwing people like Abijet, JD or any other? they just dump them but congress shielded zoobear in Karnataka.
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madhu wrote: 28 Aug 2024 12:25
venkat_kv wrote: 28 Aug 2024 07:04 Actually I think you have the time lines mixed with respect to Nupur sharma's case. India was already negotiating with Qatar on food grains/wheat issue. Nupurs Statements blew up 10 days after it was made courtesy of clip manipulator, fact checker and islamist using that to shout against the Modi govt.
i am not convinced sir. India bans exports of wheat, citing threat to its food security on May 15. this was in
. more over it was only in Venkaih Naidu's state visit which is ofcourse pre-determined the same issue was brought up and got assurance, this was conformed by MEA on June 6th

madhu ji,

we had our ex Navy officers in a qatari prison facing a potential death sentence

The qataris got what they wanted which was, AFAIK, a long term gas contract and may be some under the table deals deals which remain undisclosed as yet

but knowing qatar, it would have been for more flights for their airline and priority landing slots on a long term basis with no reciprocity in terms of numbers

Also, almost the entire "gelf" is banking on India for their long term food security in the years to come

It was jihadi blackmail, pure and simple, they saw their chance and struck hard, but they have made a major mistake taking on an economic and military power like India

But then, such tactics work only once, and India is certainly no pushover

Karma will make her customary visit, no .... :wink: ...... when the Indian deep state get their act together, and at the time and place of their choosing
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Karma will make her customary visit, no .... :wink: ...... when the Indian deep state get their act together, and at the time and place of their choosing

If we have one and powerful enough i wonder ? in fact we should have a thread on this - this is one topic we all know about but does not discuss about
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Shiv Aroor interviews BJP MP Kangana Ranaut (in Indian attire) on various topics.

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Modi increasingly faltering?

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