Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

brvarsh · Post by **brvarsh** » 11 Aug 2017 02:51

It seems Chinese media is already publishing "count down of war with India has begun" - now sure how much of this is fake news but some of it might also be coming from the Chinese leaders who do not like Xi and want to put him on spot.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 11 Aug 2017 03:19

China has Propaganda news, which we in India are not used to - except news that brushes up La Familia's image.

In the dream world that these propaganda artists live in, anything is possible. Their side is always ready to "deliver a crushing blow" on the enemy.

So let them Propagandoo themselves to death, someone pass me some popcorn in the meantime. There aint gonna be no war here, if there is, cheen will be badly humiliated, with loss of face.
A few hundred soldiers will die, but the poor chinese batallion, as they stand deep in the valley, surrounded on 3 sides by the Indian / Bhutanese army and boys from chakarata - those poor chinese soldiers stand no chance.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 11 Aug 2017 03:52

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 009880.cms
View: Dokalam crisis is a reflection of China's expansionist tendencies
ET CONTRIBUTORS|Updated: Aug 11, 2017, 02.12 AM IST
China is wallowing in its own mendacious propaganda on the Dokalam stand-off. Its claim about informing our local military personnel in advance about road building on its “sovereign territory” (why would they do that?) but receiving no response is deceitful. They claim goodwill as motive, contrary to China’s enduring ill-will towards India on border differences.
The Chinese ploy was to be able to tell Bhutan that India had raised no objection and forestall any Bhutanese resistance. Actually, India refused any discussion on this non-agenda item and referred it to the Bhutanese. The Bhutanese soldiers who had tried to stop Chinese road building were unceremoniously escorted back to their camp. India is reluctant to publicise the evidence as it would embarrass Bhutan.
China’s contention that India has entered its territory in Dokalam is bogus as this area has figured in the 24 rounds of China-Bhutan talks so far on border differences. For India, the plateau is Bhutanese territory claimed by China, just as, by virtue of its occupation of Tibet, China claims Indian territory. India has entered Bhutanese territory under existing bilateral security agreements.
Bhutan’s silence on the standoff since its June statement is being exploited by China to sow doubts about the depth of Bhutan’s support for India’s action. India is not falling into China’s trap by pushing Bhutan to be more vocal, as that would signal loss of confidence. India is acting in close coordination with Bhutan.
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Gautam

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 11 Aug 2017 04:00

samirdiw · Post by **samirdiw** » 11 Aug 2017 04:18

It's disappointing that the govt through the media has not been persistent in painting the Chinese in a bad light sufficiently. You have individual writers writing like http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 009880.cms doing so but there hasn't been a sufficiently consistent message about the expansionist tendencies of the Chinese in the media (on suggestion by the govt contacts). There is no need for aggressive postures like gt and nehru in the past but it is important to show that the chinese are land hungry on a consistent basis. The constant blame by the Chinese govt is clearly to drum up an aggressive posture in the Chinese society so that any loss can also be accepted as defending the national honor. China getting blamed consistently as imperialist by Indian and foreign media is needed so that victim mentality is not raised among its citizens. Examples like German (China) invasion of Poland (Bhutan) which drew in Britian (India) can be used as example. Doesnt matter whether the example matches 100% so long as the image is shown in the mindset. Also can use the Chinese entering North Korea against US as the example why India entered Bhutan. How can the Chinese then oppose that?

Instead we keep silent.

Also not sure why our tv media folks who are invited on Chinese shows are so apologetic about Tibet when Chinese media (tv and online) often refers to the 'annexation of Kingdom of Sikkim' by India. Can easily say that while govt accept the annexation of kingdom of Tibet but future generations may not especially if they see an aggressive China etc. They seem to be so slick in their wordings and get complete and explicit and defensive statements from India without anything remotely equal in return. What is the harm if they dont accept Sikkim and we dont accept Tibet? If there is a war the first thing we probably need to do is declare Tibet as annexed territory.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 11 Aug 2017 04:52

Prasad wrote:Chengdu to Jorhat is approx 1000km. So long range massed alcm strikes are a possibility. Don't need to roll in launchers into Tibet to do this.

Is CJ-10 a real ALCM (Air launched Cruise Missile)? In any case, it is a subsonic CM. Can it be intercepted? But again, may be not. CMs can take effective evasive manouvers (sic).

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 11 Aug 2017 04:58

ArjunPandit wrote:Did i say that Tibet, Doklam are not areas, unless we start thinking in expansionist mindset, ...

Time to change our mindset. Doklam is part of Tibet which is under illegal occupation by Peoples Repub[l]ic of China or rather Peopres lepubric of China Almy. Not too different from Bakistan's rulers who are the RAPE Army.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 11 Aug 2017 05:28

One of the core vision of China is their policy in defining the whole Tibet area as "autonomous". Now, we can move international court on that account alone, and create an independent land. It was part of original Bharat. We move slowly and steadily towards taking back Aruna, CoK, PoK, Sindh and Baluch, and Tibet (the latter ones being autonomous countries rather). China needs to look at democracy than anything else. If USSR can be broken, then we use the same soopah pawah to shackle the commie country. We have to do this at the highest level of chankian process. There is a way.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 11 Aug 2017 05:30

If US strikes NoKo, China could lash out at India. Hence all these peremptory moves. Soon Agni 5 will be alerted.

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 11 Aug 2017 06:34

ramana wrote:If US strikes NoKo, China could lash out at India. Hence all these peremptory moves. Soon Agni 5 will be alerted.

1. I hope this time it is different, "they do lash out", but well prepared Indian forces overwhelm them and are found occupying ancient bharatvarsha terriotry
2. I dont think China will be alone, pukis will be there to prove their blood being red and not green will certainly do some 'mischief'. Perfect ingredients for us to take some commanding heights of CoK and PoK

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 11 Aug 2017 06:40

IF (and its admittedly quite iffy) we retake parts of TAR and post-ceasefire do NOT vacate (very unlike our returning Haji Pir pass to the Pakis), what might be PRC's options then? UN sanctions? Not if we have at least one veto on our side (Unkil's, most likely. Doubt Russia can withstand cheeni (bowel) pressure).

Our continuing to occupy TAR will be a perennial red rag to PRC and they'll go paki very soon if we don't vacate. Hence I very much doubt we'll keep the places we have retaken. The only exception I see is of Aksai Hind which if we get, we will try to keep with us. Heck, we couldn't even retake Chittagong, what to say of Mansarovar-Kailash.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 11 Aug 2017 06:47

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/amid-dok ... ke-1736195
PM Narendra Modi Expresses Grief Over China Earthquake
On the Sina Weibo micro-blogging website akin to Twitter, PM Modi said he was saddened by the loss of life and devastation caused by the earthquake in China.
All India | Press Trust of India | Updated: August 11, 2017 01:09 IST
NEW DELHI: Prime Minister Narendra Modi today took to the Chinese micro-blogging platform to express his condolences over a powerful earthquake in China's southwestern Sichuan province that killed 20 people and injured hundreds.
On the Sina Weibo micro-blogging website akin to Twitter, PM Modi said he was saddened by the loss of life and devastation caused by the earthquake and added that the Indian people pray for the victims' families and hope those injured will recover swiftly, state-run CGTN TV reported.
Prime Minister Modi had opened an account on the popular Chinese site during his visit here in 2015. He has thousands of followers.
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Gautam
At BRF we are arso vely sad.

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 11 Aug 2017 06:48

Unkill is very likely to play the ultimate kameena role with actually nudging india to do the dirty work of humiliating china militarily on ground and then appeasing china by playing a 'neutral' role in the post war negotiations of showing indian peace credentials

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 11 Aug 2017 06:50

Amelican Navy arso went to China to expless condorences

A US defense official said the plan was for the destroyer to sail within 6 nautical miles of Mischief Reef, one of the artificial islands built by China in the Spratleys. A military official said the ship performed a drill and confirmed two Chinese frigates shadowed the McCain near Mischief Reef, with the ships never getting closer than 1,000 yards.
In July, a US Navy destroyer sailed within 12 miles of another disputed island in the South China Sea claimed by China, also a "freedom of navigation exercise." That occurred around Triton Island in the Paracel archipelago, which is claimed by China, Vietnam and Taiwan.
Beijing upbraided the United States for the latest move.
"China holds indisputable sovereignty over Nansha Islands and surrounding waters," the Chinese Defense Ministry said early Friday. "The Chinese military is firmly opposed to such flaunting of force and promotion of militarization in the region by the US, which could easily trigger accidents at sea and in the air."
Chinese navy guided missile frigates "took immediate action to identify and verify the US ship, and warned and dispelled it," the Defense Ministry said. The Chinese Foreign Ministry issued a similar statement.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 11 Aug 2017 07:01

Any upcoming Agni V test should be full range , minimum 5500km, about the same as Bangalore or Chennai to Beijing . Ideally with a note of the low CEP target hit .

A loud fart is better than a long lecture .

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 11 Aug 2017 07:06

A6 is almost ready

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Aug 2017 07:14

Vayutuvan wrote:Time to change our mindset. Doklam is part of Tibet . . .

I don't get it. The Dolam as part of Tibet? A piece of land that belongs to Bhutan? Why should Indians take it from their friend and gift to their arch enemy and then set about to retrieve it?

DavidD · Post by **DavidD** » 11 Aug 2017 07:35

ramana wrote:If US strikes NoKo, China could lash out at India. Hence all these peremptory moves. Soon Agni 5 will be alerted.

I think China would be quite preoccupied with NoKo if the US strikes them. But really, all this war talk is nonsense, nobody's striking anybody. Wars are small vs. small, big (as in geopolitical heft, not size) countries don't go to war with each other.

Pulikeshi · Post by **Pulikeshi** » 11 Aug 2017 08:01

Suraj wrote:Any upcoming Agni V test should be full range , minimum 5500km, about the same as Bangalore or Chennai to Beijing . Ideally with a note of the low CEP target hit .

A loud fart is better than a long lecture .

Considering the H&D of the Chinese, the long fart ought to go beyond China with a low CEP target hit

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 11 Aug 2017 08:54

would be nice to see the rentry and target impact video from the tracking ship. only a Agni1 test video was released long ago never for A2/3/5

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 11 Aug 2017 08:56

not getting direct road and sea transport rights via BD for perpetuity in 1971 was a big mistake of IG. a indian naval base deal should also have been signed for chittagong or cox bazar. it should have been a indian protectorate not left to wander and fall into islamist/military trap like Gen HM Ershad. perhaps moles high up in dilli in the pay of foreign masters gently nudged her in the directions they wanted. IG was ruthless domestically but i guess not so seasoned in external statecraft and some coterie would have run that show.

thing is, we shed our blood and do the hard work, but post the fight we become overly dharmic and do not cash in and exploit the situation for our own benefit. any white/islamic army never makes such mistakes. they will massacre down to the last soul and strip the land to its foundations for resources if they see a benefit.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 11 Aug 2017 08:58

samirdiw wrote:It's disappointing that the govt through the media has not been persistent in painting the Chinese in a bad light sufficiently.[Isn't China already doing that by issuing an ultimatum a day?] You have individual writers writing like http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 009880.cms doing so but there hasn't been a sufficiently consistent message about the expansionist tendencies of the Chinese in the media (on suggestion by the govt contacts).[Doesn't the world know that after the Chinese SCS play?] There is no need for aggressive postures like gt and nehru in the past but it is important to show that the chinese are land hungry on a consistent basis. The constant blame by the Chinese govt is clearly to drum up an aggressive posture in the Chinese society so that any loss can also be accepted as defending the national honor. China getting blamed consistently as imperialist by Indian and foreign media is needed so that victim mentality is not raised among its citizens. [How will our message get into China beyond the great firewall? Has the Chinese version swayed the Indian mango? If not how do we expect the Indian version to sway Chinese?] Examples like German (China) invasion of Poland (Bhutan) which drew in Britian (India) can be used as example. Doesnt matter whether the example matches 100% so long as the image is shown in the mindset. Also can use the Chinese entering North Korea against US as the example why India entered Bhutan. How can the Chinese then oppose that?

Instead we keep silent. [Lot of folks here see China as pompous aholes. Do you want India to imitate China and behave as pompus aholes? Or do you feel China is doing a great job?]

Also not sure why our tv media folks who are invited on Chinese shows are so apologetic about Tibet when Chinese media (tv and online) often refers to the 'annexation of Kingdom of Sikkim' by India. Can easily say that while govt accept the annexation of kingdom of Tibet but future generations may not especially if they see an aggressive China etc. They seem to be so slick in their wordings and get complete and explicit and defensive statements from India without anything remotely equal in return. What is the harm if they dont accept Sikkim and we dont accept Tibet? If there is a war the first thing we probably need to do is declare Tibet as annexed territory.

And if you strongly feel that GOI/India Press/blog writers/opinion makers are doing a poor job perhaps you could supplement their effort by writing a blog rebutting the Chinese claims/assertions and sharing it here and in Chinese internet space/blogosphere.

vijaykarthik · Post by **vijaykarthik** » 11 Aug 2017 09:18

ramana wrote:If US strikes NoKo, China could lash out at India. Hence all these peremptory moves. Soon Agni 5 will be alerted.

Interesting counter point - but don't you think that will be extreme? NK is a vassal state of China and we all know it - but India is surely no satellite of US and a strike against Bharat will not be called for or rational.

However, its true that the Cheens aren't rational or can make sense of logic particularly when NK is getting pounded and their strategic depth is being called into question.

However assuming the event happening: continuing down the same hypothetical: If they do strike India, we are well within our rights to rename SCS as Indo Indonesia sea. Remove Tibet from Red areas and cleanse it and also claim back PoK, GB and pretty much everything becomes fair game. And of course Aksai Chin and Shakshagam and anything that goes in between.

It ofcourse isnt feasible by Bharat alone but bring the world into the fight and shut these bast@rd$ out for ever. WW3.

Added later: I took the lash out literally : I assumed a missile strike deep inside Bharat. However, if you just mean a limited strike in the border area, thats a different story. However, the more I think of it, the more I assume China will want to isolate these two incidents and don't make the world think Indo-China fight is hyphenated with the US-NoKo scuffle.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 11 Aug 2017 09:29

vijaykarthik wrote:However assuming the event happening: continuing down the same hypothetical: If they do strike India, we are well within our rights to rename SCS as Indo Indonesia sea. Remove Tibet from Red areas and cleanse it and also claim back PoK, GB and pretty much everything becomes fair game. And of course Aksai Chin and Shakshagam and anything that goes in between.

It ofcourse isnt feasible by Bharat alone but bring the world into the fight and shut these bast@rd$ out for ever. WW3.

What gives us the "right" to rename SCS? We are nowhere in the general area. What the locals call is none of our business.

BTW, IIRC, Some in Indonesia wanted to rename Indian ocean as Indonesia Ocean. Is that acceptable to you? If not perhaps Indo-Indonesian ocean could be an acceptable compromise. What do you think?

niran · Post by **niran** » 11 Aug 2017 09:32

vijaykarthik wrote:
Interesting counter point - but don't you think that will be extreme? NK is a vassal state of China and we all know it - but India is surely no satellite of US and a strike against Bharat will not be called for or rational.

no not extreme if cheen attacks India in place of USA, both NoKo and Pukes are cheeni munna in asia pukes have been unsuccessful in taking care of India, since cheen cannot and will not fight anyone stronger than them (even if it is just a perception not reality) it will not directly fight USA but will lash out at India, this come from cheeni mentality/logic not Bhartiya logic.

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 11 Aug 2017 09:39

wondering what happend to the claims of reaching delhi in few hours that spawned this thread for months:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7304&hilit=shiver

Or is it the the heat and pollution of delhi doesnt suit the fire breathing dragon...bloody ~~supahpah~~regional mohalla champion

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 11 Aug 2017 09:45

China may hit at Arunachal border, IB warns; Army ups the ante (newsminute)

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Aug 2017 09:46

School stops China-related activity after ABVP protest - The Hindu

Bengaluru: An academic activity to teach young children about China had to be abruptly cancelled at a Bengaluru North school after members of a right-wing students union took objection and staged a protest on Thursday. The school’s circular that had been shared on a messaging platform on Wednesday night went viral, attracting the attention of Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP) activists.

They said with India currently in a stand off with China over the Doklam issue, such an activity was against the country’s interests.

The Block Education Officer asked the school to withdraw the circular that spoke of the new year celebrations of China. The circular had also asked students to wear Chinese attire and bring any Chinese delicacy to school on Friday.

While several parents took objection to the issue being politicised, the school principal clarified that the event was part of the British Council programme.

What is this school and why is Britain interfering in our education still? The school principal should have been sensitive enough to stop this even before the Education officer & ABVP intervened. This 'Vasudeiva Khutumbakam' concept which is deeply ingrained in us does not work.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 11 Aug 2017 09:51

ramana wrote:If US strikes NoKo, China could lash out at India. Hence all these peremptory moves. Soon Agni 5 will be alerted.

Ramanaji,
There is absolutely no sign that US will attack NK. Before Yugoslavia, Kuwait, Iraq, or Afghanistan were attacked there was a long built up of soldiers, arms and armada. Even before, that there were efforts to sway the US public to accept the attacks and we heard shrill propaganda. No such movements have yet happened. Even if DT decides to attack NK suddenly without warning, we will know at least a week or two ahead, when the ships will start moving to that area. There are a lot of people watching out for this and it will be reported. As far as India is concerned, the lizard will be forced to keep a good size of its lizardlings on the NK border in case they have to intervene with the US forces as before. I am sure they are doing it right now. Other than this, I do not expect that US will help India in any way. India has to solve this problem on its own.
Gautam

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Aug 2017 09:53

Seminar on India, China ties deferred - The Hindu

Amidst the ongoing standoff at Dokalam, a seminar hosted by the Chinese Consulate in Kolkata — focussing on exchanges and cooperation between China and Eastern India — has been postponed at the last minute, triggering speculation on the reasons for such a high-profile event being called off.

The Chinese Consulate confirmed that the seminar, scheduled to be held on Thursday, was “postponed till a later date.” The seminar, titled Belt and Road Initiative [BRI], Bangladesh-China-India-Myanmar [linking plan] and the Role of Eastern India , and its date and venue (a city hotel) were announced by the Chinese Consul General, Ma Zhanwu, as recently as on August 4.

The event was approved by the Ministry of External Affairs, a senior Indian government official said.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 11 Aug 2017 09:57

SSridhar wrote: What is this school and why is Britain interfering in our education still? The school principal should have been sensitive enough to stop this even before the Education officer & ABVP intervened. This 'Vasudeiva Khutumbakam' concept which is deeply ingrained in us does not work.

It is the job of the British council to spread British propagandu. Indian parents love the west so much that they will lap up anything from a western nation especially if it is english speaking. Cooperating with British council is "natural" for any school so parents get a warm fuzzy. Sociologically speaking almost all parents of Children who enter engineering college are aiming for the son/daughter to go to America first, failing that Britain, Australia Europe will do.

As a nation we do not consider ourselves good enough. That feeling is there among many members of my own extended family and I am sure it exists among most educated families in India. Our education tells us about our faulty culture and makes us admire the west. When Muslims admire Islamic culture we call them Islamists, but secularism allows us to curse Hindu pride and admiring the west is "Secular Hindu ability to think and be modern"

The west gets visa-free entry into Indian minds. 60 years of US funds and arms to Pakistan and on BRF it took a great deal of effort to point out that it is wrong and our politicians still slobber. But China? They are not west. We can hate them easily. Sorry to sound cynical.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 11 Aug 2017 10:09

Duplicate.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 11 Aug 2017 10:11

g.sarkar wrote:
SSridhar wrote: What is this school and why is Britain interfering in our education still? The school principal should have been sensitive enough to stop this even before the Education officer & ABVP intervened. This 'Vasudeiva Khutumbakam' concept which is deeply ingrained in us does not work.
Britain does not have to do shit. The Brown Sahibs that they have employed at the BC will do it on their own. This is OT, but when you are old, all you have is anecdotes left. In the Youth Authority I once came across a young black gentleman who looked completely black and who claimed to be white and refused to play with other blacks. Reminds me of Indians who refuse dhoti wearing members to enter a British style club. They need to visit UK to see how the local population make fun of their Indian English and their Indian accents.
Gautam

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 11 Aug 2017 10:22

https://twitter.com/somnath1978/status/ ... 3038901248

ArjunPandit · Post by **ArjunPandit** » 11 Aug 2017 10:23

At this stage the cost of a missed alarm is more than the cost of a false alarm, I expect to see a lot of such cases being talked here and there, coupled with chinese ruses

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 11 Aug 2017 10:27

https://twitter.com/somnath1978/status/ ... 3038901248

vijaykarthik · Post by **vijaykarthik** » 11 Aug 2017 10:28

pankajs wrote:What gives us the "right" to rename SCS? We are nowhere in the general area. What the locals call is none of our business.

BTW, IIRC, Some in Indonesia wanted to rename Indian ocean as Indonesia Ocean. Is that acceptable to you? If not perhaps Indo-Indonesian ocean could be an acceptable compromise. What do you think?

I can only offer convoluted logic - we are dealing with China here. Its no time for us to be "rational" as we have seen through their lies quite clearly. So, we need to make definite moves and ensure that media doesn't fall for the Chinese gibberish.

To put it differently: What gave China the right to pick Tibet?

Since its about SCS: Even India has a UNCLOS case and BD was a counter claimant. India lost the case and gave BD the rights that it was given by the ruling. China saw that too and then the UNCLOS ruling came up and China who is a UN permanent member openly defied the ruling which went against it. Where is the fairness there? If we need to kick a bully, we need to stand up to him individually and also support the smaller people the bully deals with. And allow time for eventual victory. The world doesn't have space for open bullies and we simply shouldn't give that space to them.

williams · Post by **williams** » 11 Aug 2017 10:45

ramana wrote:https://twitter.com/somnath1978/status/ ... 3038901248

plus ~50 battalions of ITBP and ~40 battalions of SSB

Iyersan · Post by **Iyersan** » 11 Aug 2017 11:07

There is a flag meeting at Nathu la today in the afternoon
In addition: Would the Chinese inform the Indian MEA through Nepal regarding military escalations as suggested before
Gobar Times had reported on 3-August that within 2 weeks the lizards will carry out the military operations .... 15-17th August is the time frame.
Will china dare to hit us on 15-August is the question, when Modi is delivering speech from the red fort. If this happens it takes the battle to a whole new level... Such an attack must be met with full force ... Open all fronts and go into all out war with China

PS: Can somebody please put the comments of Twitter (Copy paste it). SOme of us don't have twitter access in office

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 11 Aug 2017 11:11

Please,not SCS,ICS (Indo-China Sea).Even Indonesia has named part of the ICS as the North Natan Sea and the Philippines done likewise,"West Philippines Sea" for its part.And here's how the US deals with the Chinese over there.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... d-10-times

South China Sea: Chinese military tells US ship to turn around 10 times
Beijing ‘displeased’ after USS McCain sails close to the disputed Spratly Islands in a ‘freedom of navigation’ operation
Chinese dredging vessels are purportedly seen in the waters around Mischief Reef
China claims nearly all of the South China Sea Photograph: HANDOUT/Reuters

Friday 11 August 2017
A US warship has sailed close to an artificial island created by China in the South China Sea as part of a “freedom of navigation” operation.
The USS John S McCain destroyer sailed within six nautical miles of Mischief Reef, part of the disputed Spratly Islands south of the Paracel Islands.

A place called 'hope': the tiny island on the frontline of US-China tensions
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A US official said a Chinese frigate sent radio warnings at least 10 times to the USS McCain.

“They called and said ‘Please turn around, you are in our waters,’” the official said.
“We told them we are a US [ship] conducting routine operations in international waters.”
The official said the interactions were all “safe and professional”, with the operation lasting about six hours from start to finish.

China’s foreign ministry said: “The US destroyer’s actions have violated Chinese and international laws, as well as severely harmed China’s sovereignty and security.

“China is very displeased with this and will bring up the issue with the US side.”

China claims nearly all of the South China Sea, despite partial counter-claims from Taiwan and several south-east Asian nations including the Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia and Vietnam.

The freedom of navigation operation – known in the military as a “Fonop” – was bound to annoy Beijing and was the third of its kind carried out by the United States since President Donald Trump took office.

It comes amid soaring tensions on the Korean Peninsula over Kim Jong-un’s missile programme, and as the United States seeks to push China into more assertively restraining North Korea.

Trump this week warned North Korea it faced “fire and fury” if it continued to threaten America.

Pentagon spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Chris Logan declined to comment on whether there had been a freedom of navigation sailing, but said: “We are continuing regular Fonops, as we have routinely done in the past and will continue to do in the future.

“All operations are conducted in accordance with international law and demonstrate that the United States will fly, sail and operate wherever international law allows.”

Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report

If as the IB is saying,that the Chins are planning to invade Ar.Pr.,then we must also plan for counter thrusts into Tibet to sever its link with China.
Simultaneously,we should see that not a single Chinese warship,tanker,fishing trawler,junk,bumboat,whatever,transits the Malacca Straits and is sunk if it does not surrender to IN forces.Roght from the first moment of conflict,the Indian response should be 3-dimensional,plus cyber=space warfare.