Internal Security Watch

[gunjur]

Politics of Appesement -Hurdle in fight against terror 2/2 (Q&A)



EDIT: In the speech, vicky was asked if jobs/money was a factor for local boys to take up jihad. He said money is a factor, people like bhatkal brothers initially joined for money but its not just money. If it is only about money, this would have been controlled, ideology also plays a huge part in local jihad.

[ramana]

Sanjay Dutt wants six month break to complete his filsm before surrendering!!!

I think the justice system has been overly considerate of this convicted arms possesor. It has diluted many grevious charges and has given him a lesser sentence.
Its a travesty to those who died in the Mumbai blasts of 1993 to give him time to earn more money. He never gave them the same chance.

[Yayavar]

And the producers whose business is affected should learn not to support terrorists and gangsters - at least the outed ones. Hopefully he does not get the reprieve.

[kish]

"Islamic Sex tourism" not a word in Indian media as it would disturb the sickular fabric of the country.

Teenager exposes India's 'one month wives' sex tourism

Campaigners for Muslim women's rights said while short term 'contract marriages' are illegal in India and forbidden in Islam, they are increasing in Hyderabad, in southern India, where wealthy foreigners, local agents and 'Qazis' – government-appointed Muslim priests – are exploiting poverty among the city's Muslim families.

The victim, Nausheen Tobassum, revealed the scale of the problem when she escaped from her home last month after her parents pressurised her to consummate a forced marriage to a middle aged Sudanese man who had paid around £1,200 for her to be his 'wife' for four weeks.

This is prostitution, plain and simple. The government appointed 'Qazi' acted as a pimp.

[shyamd]

^^ Its legal in shia (muta'a) jurisprudence and approved in KSA.

[eklavya]

SAD is a front for terrorism. First the mercy please for Rajoana, now this. In each case, the SAD has argued that people sympathetic to the convicted terrorists (probably their own party workers) will take violent action, possibly of a communal nature (i.e. against the hindu community in Punjab), to protest the carrying out of the judicial sentence.

Badal asks Manmohan to stop Bhullar hanging, cites ‘emotional damage’

Seeking clemency for Khalistani terrorist Devenderpal Singh Bhullar, Punjab Chief Minister Parkash Singh Badal and Deputy Chief Minister Sukhbir Badal on Monday sought Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's immediate intervention.

"We asked the Prime Minister to find a way so that he (Bhullar) can be granted clemency," said Badal after meeting Singh. Citing the law and order situation in Punjab, the CM said, "I have the experience of how much the country has lost due to incorrect decisions. In the interest of the state, in the interest of the country, we are asking to stop it (Bhullar's execution)."

Warning that the Centre or a state government has to "pay the price" if it commits even a small mistake, Badal said: "What we need most is peace and harmony. If it affects peace and harmony, it will become an emotive issue. We are warning the government that people are emotional. Moreover, he is in a poor health condition... what will they gain by hanging him?"

A memorandum submitted by Badal to Singh, on behalf of the Shiromani Akali Dal (SAD), said: "The process must be started for finding ways to ensure that the ends of justice do not clash with the long-term interests of the nation and with the objectives and operation of statesman-like approach in such sensitive matters. In the overall national interest and in the interest of peace and communal harmony in the country in general and in Punjab in particular, the death penalty in this case may be commuted to life imprisonment."

The memorandum added: "While we are deeply committed to maintaining peace and communal harmony in the state, the governments have no control over the emotional and psychological damage that such a case can inflict on collective social psyche. This damage must be avoided at all costs."

[eklavya]

This is what Badal had to say about why he sought clemecy for Rajoana i.e. he can only maintain law and order in Punjab if the judicial sentence is not carried out. If SAD cannot maintain law & order, the Centre should remove them from power.

Badal defends his govt seeking mercy for Rajoana

He told reporters here that the state government had taken this stand "keeping in view the sentiments of the people and in order to avoid any law and order problem".

Rajoana, a Babbar Khalsa terror group member, has been sentenced to death for killing former Punjab chief minister Beant Singh RPT former Punjab Chief Minister Beant Singh in Chandigarh on August 31, 1995.

Earlier, addressing a gathering here, Badal appealed to the people to maintain peace, communal harmony and amity in the state and to thwart "anti-Punjab forces bent upon vitiating the congenial atmosphere" in the state.

[Yayavar]

Yes, I've pointed this out in the Hindu-sikh thread. It is atrocious that people find excuses for these terrorists.

[brihaspati]

Congress must reply, why Kapil Sibal appeared for Bhullar: Bitta
India TV reporter [ Updated 12 Apr 2013, 13:23:04 ]
http://www.indiatvnews.com/politics/nat ... -9453.html

New Delhi, Apr 12: All India Anti-Terrorist Front chief Maninderjit Singh Bitta was in tears today, as he addressed the media and blamed Congress leaders for being "soft" towards terrorists. Bitta, who as Youth Congress president, was injured in the 1993 blast carried out by Khalistani terrorist Davinderpal Bhullar, said, it was Congress leader Kapil Sibal who appeared in court in favour of Bhullar.

Bitta also alleged that Congress leader Ambika Soni also advised him to "lie low" in the matter of hanging Bhullar and Afzal Guru. Congress leadership must give a reply, said Bitta.

"[....] but I want to know who ordered withdrawal of my Z plus security. Is Lalu Prasad's life of more worth that he should be given NSG guards, and my guards were withdrawn?[...]", said Bitta.

Bitta said, he sought appointment to meet Congress president Sonia Gandhi for the last two years, but was refused. "The Gandhi-Nehru family is a family of patriots. Indiraji, Rajivji laid down their lives, but the Congress leaders are self-serving and they are misguiding Sonia gandhi", said Bitta.

"I will gladly face bullets or bombs from terrorists, but what the Congress leaders are doing, are nothing short of atom bombs", said Bitta. Bitta praised President Pranab Mukherjee for fastly disposing of mercy petitions of terrorists pending since years.

[kittoo]

iZlamic "just" demands are on the rise, seeds for second partition of India are being sown today.

Muslims want protection, curbs on Hindu processions

SP denies accusations of 'witch hunting' of Muslims....
Ramaswamy, speaking on behalf of the Hindus at V.Kalathur, lamented that “Hindus have become minorities at V.Kalathur and our fundamental rights are trampled upon when we are not allowed to take our processions through the routes through which we have been traditionally taking our processions. But for the protection offered by the district administration, we will find it difficult to live in the village and I am in half a mind to get myself converted.”

I find the quote by the Hindu person more disturbing. He says he has 'half a mind of converting!'. What does that achieve? I doubt any Muslim will say this ever. Such statements only embolden the Muslims even more. Why will they stop when they clearly see an opportunity to convert such people. Why is it so easy to even think about converting? Thats a battle lost right there!
I have another question. I guess in past few decades, conversions in South India, be those to Islam or Christianity, have far outpaced the conversions in north. I don't hear many conversions happening in north, but in south its clear as day. Why? Why are South Indians so easy to convert?
Edit: I don't mean to offend anyone. I am genuinely curious as to the South which stood tall against the Islamic onslaught, why has it suddenly become the hunting ground for conversions?

[brihaspati]

UPA govt was split over decision to hang Bhullar
Himanshi Dhawan, TNN Apr 14, 2013, 03.23AM IST
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... r-case-mea

NEW DELHI: After Germany deported Devender Pal Singh Bhullar, the German president had sought a reprieve for the Khalistani terrorist awarded a death sentence for the attack on former Indian Youth Congress president Maninder Singh Bitta.

Bhullar was deported from Germany for travelling on fake documents as authorities there were unaware he could face charges that can result in a death penalty and his transfer to India was later held illegal by a German court. Regretting that Bhullar had been sent back to India, the German President wrote to his Indian counterpart seeking clemency for Bhullar.

The German president said his country along with European Union (EU) advocated abolition of death penalty.

Bhullar's case, however, is not similar to the 1993 Mumbai blasts' accused Abu Salem and the Italian marines' case, where India had committed not to execute the persons charged with crimes if they were convicted. There was no such promise made in the Bhullar case.

The information provided by the government also reveals that the government was split over the decision to hang Bhullar, echoing the split opinion of the Supreme Court bench. File notings show the foreign ministry under K Natwar Singh favored commuting Bhullar's death penalty to life sentence.

MEA's advice was, however, rejected by the ministry of home affairs that felt bilateral relations could not be a factor in deciding issues involving the country's criminal justice system.

MEA's advice could have been prompted by a series of clemency pleas from Germany, the UK, the US and Indian politicians like former PM H D Deve Gowda and Rajya Sabha MP Ram Jethmalani.

Information accessed by SC Agrawal says, "... Several petitions from individuals and institutions, both domestic and foreign, were received seeking clemency for Devender Pal Singh Bhullar. Since some of these petitions were from prominent international personalities and organizations including President of Germany, members of EU, US Congress and UK House of Commons, MEA also considered the matter."

The government told Agrawal that "MEA, with the approval of the then EAM (K Natwar Singh) intimated the MHA that MEA was in favour commutation of the death sentence to life imprisonment. The views of MEA were considered by the MHA. The plea of MEA was not accepted on the grounds that bilateral relations cannot be a deciding factor in the enforcement of criminal justice system in the country and that Devender Pal Singh being an Indian criminal, needed to be dealt by Indian laws and procedures and not be guided by extraneous factors."

Then home minister Shivraj Patil rejected Bhullar's mercy petition on July 7, 2005, and the file was submitted to then President APJ Abdul Kalam. The case was reviewed in 2011, when P Chidambaram became the home minister.

[abhishek_sharma]

>> Muslims want protection, curbs on Hindu processions.

Riots do start when shoes etc are thrown during Durga puja, Ramnavami processions. I have a few examples.

[Vipul]

Rohingya Muslims take refuge in Hyderabad.

Looking at least 10 years older than his age, 27-year-old Mohammed Shaker can pass off as a north Indian settled in Hyderabad but for his broken Hindi. Shaker is actually a Rohingya Muslim who fled Myanmar for safety and sought refuge in Hyderabad four months ago to escape the sectarian violence and bloodshed that is rocking the Southeast Asian nation.

Ask him how he landed in Hyderabad, and Shaker recalls his three-day long arduous journey on foot through a rough mountain terrain in the dead of the night to reach the Myanmar border from where he was made to board a boat run by smugglers to reach the Bangladesh border. Hours later, he reached the shore and was stowed in a truck to be finally dropped near the West Bengal border. And it took him 9 days to finally land in Hyderabad.

There are many refugees like Shaker in Hyderabad. They have chilling stories to narrate about the ongoing sectarian violence in Myanmar. "Muslims are forbidden by Buddhists to step out of their houses during daytime. Those who refuse to comply with this order are killed. My uncle who stepped out of the house got killed this way," said Mohammed Shamshu, 25, while his companion Mohammed Shoeb, 19, showed on his mobile phone gory pictures of Muslim men being stabbed and bludgeoned to death. Healthcare, education and other services are a distant dream for us, Shoeb added.

"Shopkeepers would not sell ration to us. As a result, we stealthily buy food items in the dark and sustain by eating once in a day or two," said Mohammed Sadiq, another refugee highlighting the terrible toll of hunger. Many Muslim women who lost their husbands in the riots ended up starving as even their cattle was taken away from them, rued Sadiq, who was fortunate enough to escape along with his wife. Both Muslim men and women willing to marry have to separately cough up a hefty tax, and pay even more if the married couple has children, but the same did not apply to Buddhists, he lamented.

Fleeing from their native country, the Rohingya Muslims have settled down in many cities in India, including Hyderabad. From about 150 such settlers in early 2012, the number of Rohingya Muslims in the city has shot up to 1,200 now. These asylum seekers, mostly in the young age group, are settled in Hafizbabanagar, Balapur and Kishanbagh areas of Old City, work as daily wagers and live crammed into cheap quarters.

"After the riots in Myanmar in June last year, there was a fresh wave of exodus late last year. Besides India, these refugees are fleeing to Bangladesh, Thailand, Singapore and other countries," said Mazher Hussain, executive director, Confederation of Voluntary Associations (Cova), the implementation partner of UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) in Hyderabad.

The latest round of violence between Buddhists and Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar's Rakhine region erupted in June 2012 after the alleged rape and murder of a Buddhist girl by Muslim men. Experts said that this violence is the latest in a long history of state-sponsored repression against Rohingya Muslims. The minority was targeted in pogroms in 1978, stripped of their citizenship in 1982 and exposed to rampant human rights abuse, including slave labour and torture that led to a second exodus into Bangladesh in 1991-1992. Islam is practiced by 4% of Myanmar's population.

According to the United Nations, clashes between ethnic Rakhine Buddhists and Rohingya Muslims have left 115,000 people displaced and several dead. The Rohingyas have been described by the UN as one of the world's most persecuted minorities.

Activists said that UNHCR is also calling on countries to maintain open borders and ensure humane treatment of people seeking asylum from Myanmar. However, reluctance to accept refugees is growing, activists said.

"Until early last year, when their population was small, they were living with little trouble but as the numbers increased, police started frequenting their quarters and owners are now objecting to it and asking them to vacate," said an activist adding that unless the issue is addressed by the international community, the exodus will not end.

[Sachin]

I am genuinely curious as to the South which stood tall against the Islamic onslaught, why has it suddenly become the hunting ground for conversions?

Perhaps they have realised that show-casing their Hindu identity does not give them any major privilege? Lack of self-worth introduced to these folks by repeated propoganda that their religion is the root cause of all their problems? How ever I do not see large scale conversions in Karnataka.

[Agnimitra]

Separatists in high places: Harsh Mander

Nowhere in Harsh Mander’s impressive CVs found on the websites of various organisations, including Sonia Gandhi’s National Advisory Council of which he was a member till June 2012, and Wikipedia, is it mentioned that he is associated with the Justice Foundation Kashmir Centre UK, along with the ISI’s now-famous Syed Ghulam Nabi Fai.

The Justice Foundation Kashmir Centre was set up in London in January 2004 by Dr Ayub Thakur to seek ‘justice and peace for the oppressed people of the world, including the people of Jammu and Kashmir’. Informed sources believe it is a project of British intelligence to undermine India’s claim on Kashmir. The foundation received some money from the ISI when Fai was roped in as Director. Professor Nazir Ahmed Shawl, an academic who writes regularly for all major Pakistani newspapers, took over the reins after Ayub Thakur’s death in 2004.

...

Former IAS officer Harsh Mander shot to international fame when he publicly blamed the Gujarat Government and Chief Minister for the 2002 riots. Since then, he has positioned himself as a social activist, writer, and moral crusader of neglected causes. He heads the Aman Biradari trust which works for communal harmony and is a founding member of Shabnam Hashmi’s Act Now for Harmony and Democracy (ANHAD).

Although he has publicly supported the demand for removal of the Armed Forces Special Powers Act from Jammu & Kashmir, Harsh Mander has never informed his Indian audience that he is a member of the Working Group of the Justice Foundation which operates as Pakistan’s propaganda vehicle on Kashmir.

...

Mander is listed as representing the Centre for Equity Studies, India, a body appointed by the Delhi Government as the nodal agency for managing residential homes for street children in allocated Government buildings, a mandate in which it failed completely.

In August 2012, a Delhi Police investigation found that three minor boys were sexually exploited in the Centre for Equity Studies’ home in Mehrauli and that the management had ignored the abuse despite being aware of it. Despite a direct warning from a former staff member of the home, neither the project in-charge nor Mander himself took steps to prevent the abuse of the boys or called the police.

...

The Foundation hosted Maulana Fazlur Rehman’s visit to Britain in 2010. The latter’s party, the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam, is believed to have links to the Taliban. Over the years, the Justice Foundation has organised several conferences on the Kashmir conflict with millions of dollars of covert funding, according to British media.

Another function of the Foundation was hosted by the Labour peer Baron Nazir Ahmed in the House of Lords in 2010. Moreover, Ahmed and two Conservative and Labour MPs accepted Foundation funding for a trip to Kashmir, including Occupied Kashmir. All three MPs later claimed ignorance of the Foundation’s links with the ISI; Ahmed even claimed that though he knew Ghulam Nabi Fai for many years, he did not know that Fai was a director of the Foundation!

Since Harsh Mander has been a member of the all-powerful National Advisory Council and would have enjoyed unprecedented access to the highest echelons of Government, and former Air Chief Marshall SP Tyagi was co-chair (with Pakistan General Jehangir Karamat, retd.) of a Track-II initiative in 2012 which favoured India withdrawing from the strategic Siachen Glacier, the Government of India must clarify its position on Jammu & Kashmir State without further ado. And if it is serious, it should sternly warn citizens against associating with individuals and agencies hostile to the nation’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.

[member_20036]

CP orders razing oftemples at police stations

Following dna ’s report on several police stations across Mumbai housingtemples and idols of Hindu deities, theoffice of the commissioner of police (CP), Mumbai, has issued a circular to all police stations in the city asking them at the earliest. This step was taken to ensure that members of minority communities don’t feel intimidated or awkward while approaching policemen at such stations.
The report ‘What’s god doing at the police station?’ published in dna’s edition dated April 2, raised the issue of whether religious paraphernalia dilute the force’s secular credentials.
According to the circular issued on April 4, the commissioner, Satyapal Singh, has directed that the police force should restrain from carrying out religious rituals, like satyanarayanpuja, in the station premises. This is mainly because people from minority communities feel awkward to enter the premises.
The circular also states that this practice discourages people from minority communities from approaching the police for any kind of help. The government has time and again said this practice should be discouraged as the law does not permit such a practice to continue, thecircular states.
The circular has directed all senior police officers to adhere to directives mentioned in the circular and submit a compliance report to the CP’s office about the action taken by each police station.
The dna report had pictures of police stations including Oshiwara, Versova, Vile Parle and Goregaon.

http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/1821109/ ... e-stations

here is report
http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/1817930/ ... ce-station

BJP, Shiv Sena want top cop to withdraw circular regarding temples.

Accusing the state government of hurting peoples’ religious sentiments in the name of a secular police force, the BJP and the Shiv Sena on Monday criticised a circular issued by the police commissioner, directing all police stations to remove idols, temples and other religious symbols from the police station premises.
dna reported on April 2 that despite the city police being a secular force, several police stations are home not only to photographs of deities but also to full-fledged temples (see picture). At least one such temple is under construction at a suburban police station.
Experts, including former police chiefs,said such a practice undermines the force’s secular credentials, making it uncomfortable for members of some communities to enter a police station and seek redressal of grievances.
Opposition leader in the legislative assembly and BJP MLA Eknath Khadse said even during the British rule, no one was barred from adorning their gods or goddesses in local police stations. “Religion is a private thing and the police are doing it within the premises of the police station. So, police commissioner Satyapal Singh should immediately withdraw the circular honouring peoples’ sentiments,” Khadse said.
The circular, dated April, 4, 2013, asks all police stations in the greater Mumbai city limits to remove all murals, idols and photographs of any gods or goddesses.
A report has to be submitted to the police chief within 15 days, according to the circular.
“If they fail to remove these, action will be taken against the officer in charge of the police station.”
Khadse said the police chief should first control the mounting crime rate in the city.

http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/1822883/ ... e-stations

[brihaspati]

^^^He has a point : the final arbitrator on what constitutes "law", especially "civil law", for Muslims in India is not the Indian Constitution : the final authority has been delegated to the various Muslim personal law boards. "Criminality" in civil law aspects is a very hazy domain in India. Since it is about marriage - the act in itself can be claimed to be under the "minority" license, and will not be recognized as "criminal" offence once the appropriate mullahcracy in conjunction with assorted minority rights protectors, Gulf-supporters, self proclaimed secularists, and activist judiciary inclined in the proper direction - takes up a position to defend the same.

[brihaspati]

Also - is it not important for Indian prosperity and geo-strategic interests to suck up to KSA and Iran both in a super dooper aspiring superpower Sakunian way? So if it makes these two countries happy - or Arabian precedence is brought in to justify neo-islamic practice within India - it is to the interest of the nation, especially for its future prosperity from gazillions of investments and energy security.

[ramana]

Follow-up on Jaitley Phone tapping case aka Call Data Records CDR

Police files chargesheet in Jaitley CDR case

[ramana]

^^ Its legal in shia (muta'a) jurisprudence and approved in KSA.

The girl objects and that trumps all the other things. Also since when are KSA and Iran the arbiters of Indian criminal law?

[member_20036]

Flutter over Bishop's Hindu terror remark

17th April 2013 08:12 AM
Bishop M Prakash, Chairman, Tamil Nadu Minorities Commission, created a flutter at a press conference held in the presence of Collector Archana Patnaik and Superintendent of Police T Senthil Kumar at the Collectorate here on Tuesday by saying that Hindu terrorists were objecting to the construction of churches.
However, he retracted his words after some electronic media persons played his recorded voice and said that his statement would have serious repercussions if it was published or telecast. Realising his blunder, he defended himself, sayingthat he referred to Hindu fanatics and not terrorists.
Going a step further to convince reporters he said, “I am a Christian but most of my relatives are Hindus. I respect all religions. During my visitto various districts, Christians complained that Hindu fanatics are objecting and blocking the construction of churches. Christians also complained that Vinayakar temples are being constructed everywhere, but it is difficult to get permission to construct churches and mosques. It is the voice of the Christians and not mine. Hence I ask Collectors and SPs to permit the construction of churches in TN.”
When pointed out that the Collectorsand the Superintendents of Police had the right to refuse permission insome cases to prevent law and orderproblem in their respective districts, Bishop Prakash said that the commission would cooperate with the Collector and the SP in such cases.

http://newindianexpress.com/states/tami ... 548344.ece

[Rudradev]

Blast outside BJP office in Bangalore

http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/bl ... 42728.html

[chetak]

Click on the link to see details of funding ....


Shabnam Hashmi’s ANHAD is majorly Church funded

By Japan K Pathak

Ahmedabad, DeshGujarat, 16 April 2013

With official documents in hand, in this series I am trying to narrate the details of crorepati non-government organizations functioning in Gujarat – author

When I read status updates on left-winger NGO operator Shabnam Hashmi’s foreign tours, when I look at her anti-Modi ad anti-Right campaigns on Facebook, when I learn that she travels in planes, and manage to have a house in Amdavad, when I learn she camped in Gujarat before the assembly elections for weeks and weeks, the questions arise in my mind: how one manage to spend so much without doing job or business like normal people!

But after getting hold of the official documents on foreign funded organizations in India, I have been able to find some answers.

Shabnam Hashmi runs ANHAD (Act Now for Harmony and Democracy) with registered address as 23, Canning Lane (Pandir Ravi Shankar Shukl Lane) in New Delhi.

Her association is described as Cultural, education and social. Yes, the word ‘political’ is not part of the description.

Hashmi’s NGO received Rs. 1,66,10,753.60 foreign fund in year 2011-12 for “strengthening communal harmony and democracy.”

Now let’s do dissection of the foreign fund, Shabnam Hashmi received during that year.

The highest foreign fund was donated by Britain based organization Christian Aid. ANHAD has received around Rs one crore fund in a year from this organization.

Among the other organizations that made donations to Ms. Hashmi’s ANHAD are IMRC (Indian Muslim Relief and Charities) headquartered in Palo Alto California and Church Auxiliary for Social Action(CASA).

Now let’s move on to the figures of year 2010-11.

ANHAD received foreign donation of Rs 1,65,25,433. Christian Aid was again the main donator with donation in this year worth Rs 84 lakh around.

In both 2011 and 2010 OXFAM was also one of the major donors of ANHAD.

Interestingly Action-Aid India is also one of the major donors of ANHAD. We accessed the funding details of Action-Aid Associations and found that in same year Action Aid was donated Rs 46053800.00 by a single donor – Google India Private Limited for “welfare of other backward class.”

ANHAD was established in March 2003, as a response to 2002 Gujarat riots by Shabnam Hashmi, Marxian historian Prof. K N Panikkar and social activist Harsh Mander. As per its Wiki page, ANHAD plays a major role in Gujarat to fight against human right violations,as well as in the Kashmir Valley.ANHAD is registered as a trust and has six trustees. They are Shabnam Hashmi, K N Panikkar, Harsh Mander, Shubha Mudgal, Kamla Bhasin, Saeed Akhtar Mirza.

[Aditya_V]

Looking at the donation of a few crores, I dont Ej nessecary deal in such small change I think it is more INC funded.

[Hari Seldon]

A second blast reported from B'lore - at the Hebbal flyover. Damn was there just last week.

[shyamd]

^^ Its legal in shia (muta'a) jurisprudence and approved in KSA.

The girl objects and that trumps all the other things. Also since when are KSA and Iran the arbiters of Indian criminal law?

Was commenting on the statement that it is prostitution. Just making the point that certain islamic sects do it....

[ramana]

Sanjay Dutt gets 4 weeks relief from Supreme Court.

Too bad for the 93 Mumbai blasts victims got no such relief.


SC grants 4 weeks releif to S anjay Dutt

SC grants four weeks more to Sanjay Dutt to surrender

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STAFF WRITER 11:31 HRS IST
New Delhi, Apr 17 (PTI) A day before the deadline for his surrender ended, Bollywood actor Sanjay Dutt today got partial relief from the Supreme Court which granted him four weeks time on "humanitarian" grounds to surrender before jail authorities to undergo 42 months remaining sentence in the 1993 Mumbai blasts case.

Dutt, 53, had sought six months time to surrender to complete his seven movies in which producers have invested over Rs 278 crore.

[nachiket]

Was commenting on the statement that it is prostitution. Just making the point that certain islamic sects do it....

That doesn't mean it is not prostitution.

[vijayk]

https://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/ ... 271_a.html

ARIF QASMANI
AKAs:
Muhammad Arif Qasmani
Muhammad 'Arif Qasmani
Mohammad Arif Qasmani
Qasmani Baba
Arif Umer
Memon Baba
Baba Ji
DOB: Circa 1944
Address: House Number 136, KDA Scheme No. 1, Tipu Sultan
Road, Karachi, Pakistan
Nationality: Pakistani
Arif Qasmani is the chief coordinator for Lashkar-e-
Tayyiba's (LeT) dealings with outside organizations and
has provided significant support for LeT terrorist
operations.
Qasmani has worked with LeT to facilitate other terrorist
attacks, to include the July 2006 train bombing in
Mumbai, India, and the February 2007 Samjota Express
bombing in Panipat, India. Qasmani utilized money that
he received from Dawood Ibrahim, an Indian crime figure
and terrorist supporter, to facilitate the July 2006
train bombing in Mumbai, India. Qasmani also conducted
fundraising activities on behalf of LeT in late 2005.
Arif Qasmani has also provided financial and other
support to al Qaida. As of late 2006, Qasmani provided
funding to al Qaida members and facilitated the return of
foreign fighters to their respective countries. Between
2004 and 2005, Qasmani provided al Qaida with supplies
and weapons and facilitated the movement of al Qaida
leaders in and out of Afghanistan. In return for
Qasmani's support, al Qaida provided Qasmani with
operatives to support the July 2006 train bombing in
Mumbai, India, and the February 2007 Samjota Express
bombing in Panipat, India. Qasmani also facilitated the
movement of al-Qaida personnel out of Afghanistan in
2001. In 2005, Qazsmani provided Taliban leaders with
safe haven and a means to smuggle personnel, equipment,
and weapons into Afghanistan.


MOHAMMED YAHYA MUJAHID
AKAs:
Mohammad Yahya Aziz
DOB: March 12, 1961
POB: Lahore, Punjab Province, Pakistan
National ID: Pakistan, 35404-1577309-9
Mohammed Yahya Mujahid is the head of the LeT media
department and has served as a LeT media spokesman since
at least mid-2001. In that capacity, Mujahid has issued
statements to the press on behalf of LeT on numerous
occasions, including after the December 2001 LET attacks
on the Indian Parliament, and following the November 2008
attacks in Mumbai, India. Mujahid's statements on behalf
of LeT have been reported by international news sources
such as BBC News, the New York Times, the International
Herald Tribune, and Asia Times Online. As of late 2007,
Mujahid was influential among the LeT central leadership.

The whole world knows who did the Samjhota blasts but our Pigs of Congress discover Hindu terrorists to fix the crime to help the DIEnasty

[shyamd]

Was commenting on the statement that it is prostitution. Just making the point that certain islamic sects do it....

That doesn't mean it is not prostitution.

No sh*t sherlock

[JE Menon]

>>The whole world knows who did the Samjhota blasts but our Indian Pigs of Intelligence will discover Hindu terrorists to fix the crime to help the DIEnasty.

Another paki mofo banned...

Ask again...

[Atri]

Pune's German Bakery blast convict Himayat Baig sentenced to death

PUNE: A Pune court on Thursday sentenced Indian Mujahideen operative Mirza Himayat Inayat Baig to death in the German Bakery bomb blast case.

The terror attack on the popular pune joint had killed 17 people and injured 64 in February 2010. On Monday, Pune sessions court special judge NP Dhote had held Baig guilty in the case.

Baig is the only accused in the terror attack who has been arrested, tried and convicted for the terror attack.

The judge handed down capital punishment to Baig for murder and criminal conspiracy, besides under provisions of Unlawful Activities Prevention Act and Explosive Substances Act.

The punishment was announced after the judge heard arguments of defence and prosecution on the quantum of sentence.

Baig, a resident of Maharashtra's Beed district, was held guilty under sections 302 (murder), 307 (attempt to murder), 435 (mischief by fire or explosive substances), 474 (forgery), 153(A) (promoting enmity between different groups on ground of religion, race, place of birth, language and doing acts prejudicial to maintenance of harmony) and 120(B) (criminal conspiracy) of IPC.

He was also pronounced guilty under various sections of UAPA and Explosives Substances Act.

He was given the death sentence under sections 302 and 120(B) of IPC, 16(A) of UAPA and Section 3 of Explosive Substances Act.

The court had accepted the prosecution's contention that it was a "carefully planned and executed attack calculated to terrorise the public in general by causing extensive damage to life and property and that the primary objective was to undermine and reduce faith of the common citizen in the elected government and destabilize the system of law."

[Lilo]

>>The whole world knows who did the Samjhota blasts but our Indian Pigs of Intelligence will discover Hindu terrorists to fix the crime to help the DIEnasty.

Another paki mofo banned...

Ask again...

Saar why the haste without a warning ?
Vijay ji probably didnt even know what hit him
Btw , when is the ban ending? hopefully its short and we can have him back among us....

[Hari Seldon]

^^+1. Caution/warning is SOP moi thought. Anyway, hopefully parole's not far away.

[abhishek_sharma]

And why call him "paki mofo" ? How is that consistent with the expectations of this forum?

[JE Menon]

the premier and other government officials are frequently called worse... interesting that people are more concerned about a single poster facing flak. It will be nice if such sterling sense of objectivity is shown across the board. BRF will be a better place then. For instance, there is an entire thread dedicated to exposing the traitorship if that's a word of people in India, including govenrment ... but "pigs of intelligence"? really? And "paki mofo" is the problem?

It is consistent with the "expectations" and current performance of the forum. Read what he actually said. Caution is the norm, but not necessarily without exceptions.

[abhishek_sharma]

the premier and other government officials are frequently called worse...

I don't think they are called "paki mofo" (or worse).

interesting that people are more concerned about a single poster facing flak. It will be nice if such sterling sense of objectivity is shown across the board. BRF will be a better place then.

it will also be nice if people mind their own language when they take action against others for using inappropriate words. BRF will be a better place then.

For instance, there is an entire thread dedicated to exposing the traitorship if that's a word of people in India, including govenrment ...

So?

but "pigs of intelligence"? really? And "paki mofo" is the problem?

yes, really. "paki mofo" is worse than "pigs of intelligence".

It is consistent with the "expectations" and current performance of the forum.

Nice to know. I am sure you will remember that when someone calls you "paki mofo". theek hai, shriman?

[JE Menon]

You see that's the trouble with this ... somebody always has a bigger gun. So better to keep weapons in holsters and speak in a civilised way. Otherwise, anyone can be "more Islamic than thou"... or more "Indic" than thou... we can all play this game of I'm more of a patriotic Indian than you are, and escalate till it becomes exactly like Pakisatan is today... but in a virtual ostensibly "Hindu" environment.

Be civil, and be civilised, criticise vigorously but don't abuse government bodies (they can't respond on the forum but they can retaliate and it won't be pretty) and don't question poster's motives...otherwise, we will all go downhill together I can run very well with the crowd.

Plus, you are very confident this chap is not a "paki" ... "mofo" I'm not so sure, but hey I'm quite sure the intelligence guys don't communicate with oinks.

Be civil and be civilised.

[kittoo]

JE Menon ji while I do think that a ban was a little bit too much, I find that banning was within your call and I guess you took what you deemed fit. But calling vijayk saar Paki mofo was a bit too much in my humble opinion. I hope the ban is short and he will return soon.

[Lilo]

Not to gangup or anything but "Mofo" label is indeed untenable. JEM ji please do the needful and purge that comment . Already Vijayk ji done so with his post.