Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 05 Jun 2013 00:10

Sanku wrote:
SwamyG wrote:^^^
Few takers? How did you decide that
Vote share for party saar, ONLY deciding factor.

I am inclined to believe that NaMo may deliver more seats only now that some of the surveys show extra vote % for BJP with him, but the thing to note is that BJP is getting a 6% even without him.

So yes, few takers, unless of course, you are saying people like stale food.

People are used to stale food. There is new thaali meals waiting. Let us come down to the chase. What does Advani offer? We have discussed for gazillion pages on Modi's offering.

munna · Post by **munna** » 05 Jun 2013 00:13

Devendra wrote:http://navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/in ... 429656.cms
"मंगलवार को नई दिल्ली में आयोजित प्रेस कॉन्फ्रेंस में बाबा रामदेव ने खुलकर ऐलान कर दिया है कि वह 2014 के लोकसभा चुनाव में नरेंद्र मोदी के पक्ष में प्रचार करेंगे। साथ ही उन्होंने यह भी कहा कि वह एनडीए की तरफ से मोदी को पीएम कैंडिडेट बनवाने के लिए बिहार के मुख्यमंत्री नीतीश कुमार को भी मना लेंगे। इसके अलावा एक चैनल के साथ इंटरव्यू में मोदी के दामन पर गुजरात दंगों के दाग को रामदेव ने सिरे से खारिज कर दिया। उन्होंने कहा कि देश के बंटवारे के समय करीब 10 लाख लोग मारे गए, क्या उसके लिए उस वक्त के प्रधानमंत्री पंडित नेहरू जिम्मेदार हैं? अगर उन मौतों के लिए नेहरू जिम्मेदार नहीं है तो फिर गुजरात दंगों के लिए मोदी कैसे जिम्मेदार हैं?"

Very significant coming from Babaji. He is the most prominent 'bhagwa' OBC babaji in N India. The reach and depth of his network is quite significant and sort of like mini-RSS. It is the wider support network of people like him that makes Modi so strong. Gadkari, Chouhan, Sushma and Raman Singh are not ready to take on NaMo, Advaniji is getting some really bad advice. Even is he disagrees with Modi's candidature he should not do what he is doing....

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 05 Jun 2013 01:07

Excellent source material that meticulously traces the rise of nano. Must read folks. Longish at 85 pages but very detailed and very holistic, IMHO.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/139418477/Nar ... m#download

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 05 Jun 2013 02:06

सिरे से खारिज - what does that mean ?

munna · Post by **munna** » 05 Jun 2013 02:08

SwamyG wrote:सिरे से खारिज - what does that mean ?

Completely debunked/denied

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 05 Jun 2013 02:50

Thanks Munna saar.

Hari Seldon wrote:And now we are treated to the sorry spectacle of sagareeka ghose deliberating on internal sangh matters, no doubt aided by fictional "inside sources" only.

http://m.firstpost.com/politics/will-rs ... tml?page=1

It reminds us of the profound joke/riddle about shortening a line without erasing it. Drawing another line longer than the first - there by making the first one shorter in comparison. Similarly Modi is so Evil, that the former evil - RSS - is good. She uses the words " sangh’s prized principle of “collective leadership”. " , "Nagpur patriarchs who once nurtured him."

He upholds sangh ideology, he is self-effacing and humble, he does not project himself as a hero and yet works quietly for a government scheme- oriented development model as opposed to a private enterprise- oriented one.

One would thing Sagarika is an RSS sympathizer

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Chouhan does not project himself in social media, or through rock concerts, or at FICCI, but is far more ostensibly committed to sangh ideology than Modi declares himself to be

So if RSS is Hindutva onlee, and Modi is not exactly a RSS guy, then does Modi a Hindutva guy? Sagarika seems to be saying he is not

Then the implication is that he did not have any role in 2002 riots - which the SIT also said in many words. Is this a Modi paid article

? Inquiring minds want to know onlee.

The massive ideological range that exists within the saffron family between the swadeshi –inclined, “Hindu CPM” of the Govindacharya variety and the corporate friendly, sharp suited Jaitley and Jaswant type, necessarily means that finding a consensus figure to lead this force is that much more difficult. In the Congress where choice of the top job is outsourced, undemocratically to the dynasty, in the BJP the choice of the top job is outsourced to the Sangh. The Family opts invariably for loyalty. But today the sangh is being forced to decide between electoral winnability and ideological purity.

whoa whoa....there there horsey...steady steady.

An aspiring India where a staggering 110 million young people are set to enter the workforce by 2020, has little time for ideological purity.

An endorsement of Modi would also mean that the sangh swallow its ideological commitments on hindutva, for more innocuous slogans of “development”, “nationalist progress” and secularism defined as “India first.”

Is Sagarika endorsing Modi here? I am confused

, Modi rise’s too will inevitably mean a taming and a subordination of the sangh.

So does Sagarika want RSS to be nurtured

? Crocodile tears methinks.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 05 Jun 2013 03:22

On record - I read the 85 pages, first half more seriously than the second. Worth a read

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Jun 2013 06:20

Jaitley balancing act to quell confusion

New Delhi, June 4: Arun Jaitley has stepped in to quell the confusion settling in within the ranks, a day after BJP chief Rajnath Singh swung into action to douse the anger over L.K. Advani’s public attempt to belittle Narendra Modi.

The senior leader said he “personally” believed Modi’s popularity and acceptability among party cadres was “high”.

Former president Nitin Gadkari, too, contributed his bit, rejecting Advani’s offer to head a committee to oversee the campaign for the impending state elections later this year.

A Gadkari aide said he had been approached by Advani himself and by Sushma Swaraj on the veteran’s behalf but “he said no”.

Sources said a couple of weeks ago, when it appeared as though it was a matter of time before Rajnath formally announced Modi as the chairman of the campaign committee for the 2014 elections and by implication confirm his pre-eminence, Advani had stepped into the breach.

The patriarch, they said, proposed that instead of one steering panel, there should be two others: one for the five state polls in November-December and the other consisting of NDA allies.

Sources said he floated Gadkari’s name for the first, in the apparent belief that this could repair his battered relations with the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, whose chief Mohanrao Bhagwat had reportedly still not reconciled to Gadkari’s ouster on the eve of getting a second term as BJP chief.

“Gadkari holds Advani principally responsible for his exit. He saw through the game Advani tried to play and wisely decided to keep out of it,” a source said.

Also, regardless of whether individual RSS functionaries personally countenanced Modi or not, sources said they concluded that “politically” he was the BJP’s “best bet” for 2014 and should not be put down.

At a meeting last week, Advani was quoted as saying that while Modi had only made Gujarat a better state, Shivraj Singh Chauhan should be given “full credit” for turning a “bimaru” state like Madhya Pradesh into a healthy state. He also said Chauhan, like former Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee, was “humble”.

Jaitley, who is closely identified with the Gujarat chief minister, took care to come across as neutral and even fair towards Advani. In an interview to a TV channel, he said there was “almost a groundswell in Modi’s favour” that was “demonstrably seen” and consequently placed the chief minister “taller than the others (in the BJP)”.

“I personally believe Modi’s popularity is extremely high and his acceptability among our cadres is high,” he added.

Asked about Modi’s prospects as a putative Prime Minister, he said it was a “very challenging choice” and added that any decision would be taken through a process of “dynamism and fairness”.

Asked if Modi would soon be declared head of the campaign panel, Jaitley replied tactfully. “He has a special place in the campaign. It is for the party president to assess and take a call,” he said.

Rajnath had yesterday tried to do a balancing act, saying Advani’s comments had been “wrongly” interpreted and there could be no “two opinions” that Modi was the “most popular leader in the country”.

To a suggestion on whether Advani was queering the pitch for Modi, that too days before the BJP’s national executive meets in Panjim from June 7, Jaitley said: “That is not fair to Advani. All of us who emerged in the BJP, including Modi, are people introduced by Advani.”

Jaitley said he saw Advani as a “guide and a patron” of the BJP, a position that gave him the “stature and liberty to speak freely”.

Sources said the task at hand was to keep Advani and Modi happy: Advani, so that he did not lob another bombshell in the coming days and “vitiate” the ambience, and Modi, not so much because of himself but because the members and the cadre were “furious” with Advani for his “derisive” remarks.

An office-bearer summed up the mood. “In 1995, it was Advani who had unilaterally named Vajpayee as our Prime Minister candidate. He did not speak to anyone, we accepted his verdict,” the functionary said. “Why does he not allow Rajnath to do the same with Modi? Why is he planting hurdles?”

For the record, sources said the executive would go through the perfunctory motions of discussing and passing the economic and political resolutions. But nobody ruled out chances of high-voltage sideshows.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130605/j ... a6O7hUpc1I

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 05 Jun 2013 06:38

Advani is on the backfoot but he is not giving up the fight against Modi -

Days after praising Shivraj Singh Chouhan as a "humble man" who was a better administrator than Narendra Modi, BJP patriarch L K Advani is learnt to have acquiesced to the appointment of the Gujarat chief minister as the leader of the party's campaign committee.
...

The pressure from the party cadre to leverage Modi's popularity was learnt to have been discussed as well. Sources said Advani had told Singh that he had no objection to Singh making the announcement on Modi, subject to consultations with other members of the BJP parliamentary board.

However, Advani was learnt to have also insisted that a separate election management committee should be set up under a different person to oversee the election management from the assembly elections in Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh, Rajasthan and Delhi through to the conclusion of the Lok Sabha election next year.

"Advaniji made it clear that he has no objections to Modi being projected as the party campaign committee chief. He, however, said that a separate election management committee needs to be constituted, and his suggestion was that both announcements — on the campaign committee chairman and the election management committee — must be made simultaneously," a BJP leader said.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/advan ... f/1125226/

Advani apparently wants to retain the power to sell BJP tickets, while Modi runs around campaigning for Advani cronies.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 05 Jun 2013 06:44

CT and more CT. Typical AAP

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Jun 2013 07:04

Pranav wrote:Advani is on the backfoot but he is not giving up the fight against Modi -

Days after praising Shivraj Singh Chouhan as a "humble man" who was a better administrator than Narendra Modi, BJP patriarch L K Advani is learnt to have acquiesced to the appointment of the Gujarat chief minister as the leader of the party's campaign committee.
...

The pressure from the party cadre to leverage Modi's popularity was learnt to have been discussed as well. Sources said Advani had told Singh that he had no objection to Singh making the announcement on Modi, subject to consultations with other members of the BJP parliamentary board.

However, Advani was learnt to have also insisted that a separate election management committee should be set up under a different person to oversee the election management from the assembly elections in Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh, Rajasthan and Delhi through to the conclusion of the Lok Sabha election next year.

"Advaniji made it clear that he has no objections to Modi being projected as the party campaign committee chief. He, however, said that a separate election management committee needs to be constituted, and his suggestion was that both announcements — on the campaign committee chairman and the election management committee — must be made simultaneously," a BJP leader said.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/advan ... f/1125226/
Advani apparently wants to retain the power to sell BJP tickets, while Modi runs around campaigning for Advani cronies.

Article doesn't explain why he wants to do that?. I mean what's the logic behind separate election management committee when there is already a campaign committee?.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Jun 2013 07:08

Setback for LK Advani as Nitin Gadkari refuses to head poll panel

NEW DELHI: Former BJP president Nitin Gadkari has turned down senior party leader LK Advani's proposal to make him head of a panel to oversee poll strategy in states headed for elections later this year, saying he does not want to take such a big responsibility at this juncture.

"I have not sought any larger role from the party president (Rajnath Singh). I would like to continue as a party worker," Gadkari told ET, when asked about Advani's offer to make him the chief of an election management committee for the poll-bound Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan, Chhattisgarh and Delhi. Gadkari added, in an exclusive interview, "I myself want to fight the Lok Sabha elections from Nagpur and want to focus on that. At this time, to take up such a big responsibility will be a problem for me.

So I would be satisfied with a smaller task." Nagpur, with a 45% Muslim population and five consecutive wins for the Congress, will be a tough seat, he conceded. Advani had proposed Gadkari's name to BJP president for the election management panel, a move that was widely seen as an attempt to queer the pitch for Gujarat CM and the party's PM candidate Narendra Modi.

Gadkari's refusal indicates the removal of another hurdle in Modi's path, especially so since it comes close on the heels of BJP's efforts to play down Advani's favourable comparison of MP chief minister Shivraj Singh Chouhan with Modi. Gadkari has conveyed his disinclination to accept Advani's offer to the party president, a person familiar with the matter said.

The 85-year-old Advani, who has never ruled himself out of the prime ministerial race, unlike Rajnath Singh and Gadkari, had earlier vehemently opposed a second term for Gadkari as party chief because of allegations of business irregularities against him. Gadkari refused to get drawn into the leadership debate and maintained that Advani's statement was "misinterpreted".

The party president had also taken this line on Monday while making it clear that Modi was undoubtedly "the most popular" leader in the country. "The leadership issue is not a question of debate in the party. This is only in the media, not in BJP," Gadkari said. Advani's praise for Chouhan at a time when Modi was moving towards centre stage in the party did not go down well with a large section in BJP, which was of the view that it was time to clear the confusion on the leadership issue.

This pressure could build up at the Goa national executive on June 8 and 9, a party leader said. Gadkari, when asked whether the leadership issue would come up at the national executive meeting, said the focus would be on the assembly elections this year and on beginning preparations for Lok Sabha elections. "We will go into the positive aspects of BJP governments in states and the NDA regime and show how the economist prime minister has failed.

His government has been a failure in all aspects — economy, political, internal security, Naxalism," said Gadkari, who may move the political resolution at the national executive.

http://m.economictimes.com/news/politic ... 434719.cms

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Jun 2013 07:28

Has Advani ensured that Modi isn't the automatic choice as PM candidate?

http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/396305/the ... idate.html

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 05 Jun 2013 07:29

^^ Gadkari backtracking and Chouhan asserting Modi's primacy will make PAIDMEDIA depressed and reach for the Burnol to suppress the burning sensation in their sensitive areas.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 05 Jun 2013 07:34

Advani okays Modi for campaign chief

Highly placed BJP sources told The Indian Express Tuesday that Advani gave his consent for Modi's candidature during a meeting he had with party president Rajnath Singh a couple of days ago.

Notwithstanding the anti-BJP rants, if NaMo is being made the campgain head, this must have been discussed and cleared with all stake holders in BJP/RSS at least a month ago.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Jun 2013 07:45

Sanku wrote:Advani okays Modi for campaign chief

Highly placed BJP sources told The Indian Express Tuesday that Advani gave his consent for Modi's candidature during a meeting he had with party president Rajnath Singh a couple of days ago.
Notwithstanding the anti-BJP rants, if NaMo is being made the campgain head, this must have been discussed and cleared with all stake holders in BJP/RSS at least a month ago.

Sankullah what's this Loh Purush's fetish for separate election management committee? what he plans to achieve with that?

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Jun 2013 07:55

Listen to his replies on CBI questioning IB in Ishrat encounter case.

Newsmaker of the Day: Arun Jaitley

http://ibnlive.in.com/cnnibnvideos/top-us/396303.html

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 05 Jun 2013 08:47

Sushupti wrote:
Sankullah what's this Loh Purush's fetish for separate election management committee? what he plans to achieve with that?

Sushupti ji; you should not believe everything you read in the media, even if it supports what you want to hear. Wait and see if the separate election committee materializes in the first place, also having too committees for two different tasks is not really such a big deal, and means nothing, could be as simple as load sharing.

What we do know for sure from publicly verifiable sources, is that Modi and Advani have met (and we can list the number of times they meet) -- and spend time talking about various things.

We also know that decisions such a NaMo's name for election committee head, if being spoken of in media, would have been signed off within the organization quite some time ago. (Its just not possible to pull out a name otherwise -- consensus building has to be done before hand)

So what you see in the media, is a reflection of events a month or so back.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 05 Jun 2013 08:51

That IE article is a hit job. Generally I call names only after seeing something in videos or after comparing from certain reliable blogs.

ashish raval · Post by **ashish raval** » 05 Jun 2013 11:08

+1 for Narendra Modi, funny thing is national media won't even discuss this in prime time lol
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/by-el ... ats-375511

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 05 Jun 2013 11:30

JD(U) seems to be losing in the Maharajganj LS seat...balance of power would shift more towards BJP / Modi in that case.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 05 Jun 2013 11:32

Rajnath cautions Advani to back off on Modi (Asian Age)

Is this also media badmashi or is there a kernel of truth somewhere....

Sources said Mr Modi also called up the BJP president and expressed “irritation” at the repeated attempts by Mr Advani to cut him to size. The BJP chief had also met Mr Advani on Sunday to tell him that his remarks were not going down well with the party, sources said.

Hmmm. So NM called RNS did he?

Mr Singh also politely snubbed Mr Advani by asking Madhya Pradesh CM Shivraj Singh Chouhan to issue a clarification on the senior leader’s efforts to “muddy the waters”, the sources said. It was then that Mr Chouhan came out into the open to say “Narendra Modi is my senior, an elder brother... Raman Singh is also senior to me. Leave alone being number one or number two, I am not even at number three.”

I see. OK. Good anyway. SSC is a true gentleman.

It is learnt some BJP functionaries intend to take on Mr Advani when he addresses the party’s forthcoming national executive session in Goa. While Mr Modi has confirmed he will address a party workers’ convention in Goa after the national executive meeting, Mr Advani, sensing trouble, is yet to confirm his participation.

If the above is true then it is indeed a long journey from loh purush to low purush status for LKA..

A senior BJP leader said that barring Sushma Swaraj and Ananth Kumar, there are no major leaders “who stand by Mr Advani at this juncture”. He added that the party was somewhat “amused” that Mr Advani, 86, had “not yet given up his ambition to be in the race for the top post”. Other leaders felt Mr Advani’s repeated efforts to create a rift were damaging the party’s image and electoral prospects. It was pointed out that as the clamour for the Gujarat CM to lead the party in the 2014 general election began to gather momentum, Mr Advani “began his sniper attacks”.

Since when did Anant Kr become a 'major' leader. He is sure to lose his LS seat this time, *even* if NM himself campaigns in blr.

rajeshkathiriya · Post by **rajeshkathiriya** » 05 Jun 2013 11:36

Gujarat by-polls: BJP wins LS seats from Porbandar, Banaskantha and leading in four state Assembly seats

http://zeenews.india.com/news/gujarat/b ... 52933.html

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 05 Jun 2013 11:45

^^Blow to modi, obviously...

apoorv · Post by **apoorv** » 05 Jun 2013 11:54

^^^ They may start saying that margin of victory was not good enough and so it is not a sweep.

BhairavP · Post by **BhairavP** » 05 Jun 2013 12:10

NDTV - BJP wins Porbandar seat by 1 Lakh votes, major blow to Modi.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 05 Jun 2013 13:15

It is good that JD(U) has lost Maharajganj Loksabha seat to Lalu's RJD. This is a clear win for Lalu, especially as Congress had put up the name of the son of the RJD MP who died, for which reason there was the bypoll, proving that the seat was won not in the name of the deceased MP but by RJD and Lalu.

Nitish lost because of his antics against Modi, and thus BJP cadre gave him no support.

I had written on Jun 02

RajeshA wrote:The Bypolls today in India could also have some influence over the choice and timing of PM candidate for BJP.

If BJP wins the two Loksabha seats in Gujarat as well as the 4 assembly seats there, then Modi would get more wind into his sails. If JD(U) wins Maharajganj Loksabha seat in Bihar, snatching it away from Lalu, then that would bolster Nitish Kumar, and thus his demands for a non-Modi NDA PM candidate.

It would affect the BJP mood going into their meeting of the National Executive in Goa on June 7-9.

Modi is going to Goa fully charged, after snatching 6 seats from Congress in the Gujarat bypolls, and Advani's backer - Nitish just lost.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 05 Jun 2013 13:26

pandyan wrote:Why cant lkg aim to bcome the president?

And impeach bengali babu??

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 05 Jun 2013 14:17

Deep introspection on in the Guj INC camp... from the state PCC chief on twitter...

>>Arjun Modhwadia ‏@arjunmodhwadia 47m
>>2 MP and 4 MLA seats by-elections. People are angry with the BJP government but we failed to motivate them to express it @pollingbooths!

wow...

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 05 Jun 2013 14:27

Hear the real truth from some dude called Prashant Panday: The BJP is disintegrating! Also only 3-4 people support Modi!

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 05 Jun 2013 14:53

rama lakshmi ‏@RamaNewDelhi

Yesterday, the Israeli ambassador met L K Advani. Today, the US ambassador met Advani. Whats cooking?

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 05 Jun 2013 14:59

Hari Seldon wrote:Deep introspection on in the Guj INC camp... from the state PCC chief on twitter...

>>Arjun Modhwadia ‏@arjunmodhwadia 47m
>>2 MP and 4 MLA seats by-elections. People are angry with the BJP government but we failed to motivate them to express it @pollingbooths!

wow...

Such comments coming from PCC chief is also a Major Blow to Modi (MBTM)!!

Sagarika-ji is Blow obsessessed
Now GPCC Chief

Klaus · Post by **Klaus** » 05 Jun 2013 15:05

^^^ Perhaps we can start trending #BlowtoModi on Twitter?

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 05 Jun 2013 15:42

ashish raval wrote:+1 for Narendra Modi, funny thing is national media won't even discuss this in prime time lol
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/by-el ... ats-375511

CON losers had the worst day of their lives.

Blow to Modi in Bengal

In West Bengal, it's a happy day for Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee. Her party, the Trinamool Congress, has won the Howrah Lok Sabha seat where by-election was held on June 2.

"We are indebted to voters who came out to vote in this by-poll. It is a win for democracy. We fought alone against all parties. It is a message: ekla cholo re," Ms Banerjee said.

The Trinamool is also leading in six out of seven Assembly seats.

These are the first major elections in the state after the chit fund scam broke and it's a three-way fight for prestige between the Trinamool Congress, the CPM and the Congress. The Trinamool won the seat in 2009, but at that time the Trinamool and Congress were allies and the Congress had not fielded a candidate. Ms Banerjee is in Kolkata having skipped a chief ministers' meet on internal security in Delhi.

BJP played a smart card by withdrawing their candidate in Howrah.

If CONgi scammers lose all the seats in Bengal, AP and TN, they are a history.

Wait until Rajasthan, MP and Chattisgarh elections.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 05 Jun 2013 15:50

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.co ... l-k-advani

The only way an NDA 3 government can be formed in 2014 is if the BJP wins 180-195 seats on its own. To do that it needs to focus on 12 key states. Here’s how the electoral numbers could work out for the BJP next year in these 12 states – given the right strategy:

Six states in the Hindi heartland: 85 seats – UP (35), Bihar (16), Rajasthan (20), Punjab (5), Haryana (3), Delhi (6).

Three states in the West: 40 seats – Maharashtra (18), Gujarat (20), Goa (2).

Two states in Central India: 35 seats – Madhya Pradesh (25), Chhattisgarh (10).

One state in the South: 15 seats – Karnataka (15).

Total: 175 seats in 12 focus states. Of the balance 23 states and union territories, where it has a relatively limited footprint, the BJP can aim for at least 20 seats, taking the party’s total to 195 seats.

Your core allies – Shiv Sena, SAD, AGP and HJC – could contribute another 30 seats to raise the base NDA tally to 225 seats.

New allies would include the AIADMK and TRS with 40 seats between them, along with 10 independents, taking the NDA total to 275 seats – without the JD(U), BJD and TMC.

To achieve these numbers, the BJP will have to nominate a strong, decisive Prime Ministerial candidate.

He must satisfy four criteria: one, he must be incorruptible; two he must have a record of good governance; three, he must have the support of the party cadre; and four, he must be a vote-multiplier.

Every opinion poll in the past three months has shown that only one of the BJP’s state-level and central leaders can deliver the 195 seats the BJP needs: Narendra Modi.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 05 Jun 2013 16:15

Modi and Advani have been meeting immediately after Rajnath and Modi met for a long time.

I think the end game of the first move is now in progress.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Jun 2013 16:52

RajeshA wrote:Hear the real truth from some dude called Prashant Panday: The BJP is disintegrating! Also only 3-4 people support Modi!

merlin · Post by **merlin** » 05 Jun 2013 17:28

vivek.rao wrote:http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.co ... l-k-advani

He must satisfy four criteria: one, he must be incorruptible; two he must have a record of good governance; three, he must have the support of the party cadre; and four, he must be a vote-multiplier.

Every opinion poll in the past three months has shown that only one of the BJP’s state-level and central leaders can deliver the 195 seats the BJP needs: Narendra Modi.

Very succinctly put.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 05 Jun 2013 17:30

Published on Jun 05, 2013
By Binod Dubey
Nitish's party lost bypoll because of Modi bashing: Bihar BJP

BJP leader Giriraj Singh, who is the animal husbandry minister in the Nitish Kumar cabinet, advised the NDA leaders to introspect and think why the development plank clicked in Narendra Modi's Gujarat, and failed in Bihar.

"Why have the minority voters enthusiastically supported the BJP in Gujarat, but they did not do the same in the case of the JD (U) nominee in Bihar?", he asked adding, "It is also a matter of introspection."
Reacting to Sahi's reported statement that local BJP workers did not support him, Giriraj Singh said, "It is a statement given in desperation. It is also against the coalition dharma."

Whatttah Tamacha!

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 05 Jun 2013 18:21

Losing to Lalu is good. Nitish will have to take measures and he needs to save himself politically and this "rooti-hui" style with Modi will not work. Lalu and INC will go together anyway. They are playing tricks to ensure max kill and Nitish has to know that he will not be in the coalition with INC no matter what. In addition he will lose like as though there is no tomorrow if he takes a secular highland.