Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 06 Jun 2013 22:32

The way these secular hens (chicks of yore) pinning their hope on "Loh Purush" is quite amazing. Only difference i see is that Modi is perceived as threat to Nehruvuan Dilli while "Loh Purush" poses no such threat to it.

Ha ha !!! and this reply

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Jun 2013 22:35

One should dig up what these worthies were muttering about Advaniji after Babri Masjid was brought down or when NDA was in power.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 06 Jun 2013 22:36

When we are so confused at not to know who is enemy or friend, then some enemies look like friends (Fordriwal) or friends look like enemies (UB or VG). Objectivity is the key, lets not see CT everywhere. Yes the times are tense, tehre is lots of churning going on, but then lets punish or praise someone based on verifiable facts and not on whims or personal biases.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 06 Jun 2013 22:36

Sanku wrote:
fanne wrote:I also did not go to Goa - but then I am not against Modi. In Dilli, in front of Church gate, below Hawra bridge, there is shop that sells 'LOGIC'. There happens to be a long queue, order some!!

Some of the reasons are tragic actually.

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/uma-b ... 130606.htm

[ Images ] Vice-President Uma Bharti will not attend the National Executive meet in Goa [ Images ] this weekend.
Click here!

In a letter to party President Rajnath Singh, she expressed her inability to attend the meeting.

Bharti said she had been travelling to Indore and had fever while returning from there. Doctors who examined her at Bhopal during a stopover advised her not to travel or engage in any activity that causes exertion.

She apologised to Singh for not being able to attend her first National Executive meet after her appointment as vice president of the party.

Some other top leaders of the party are also likely to skip the National Executive. General secretary Varun Gandhi [ Images ], Deputy Leader of BJP in Rajya Sabha Ravi Shankar Prasad, Jaswant Singh [ Images ] and Satrughan Sinha are not likely to attend the meet, party sources said.

Gandhi is away in Paris with his wife to spend some time away from political activities after the demise of his new born child.

Prasad is leading a delegation to Sri Lanka [ Images ].
Humans have something called life, and it does not always work on schedules.

Sorry for causing "Taqleef". I was talking about her statement "Crowd puller not necessarily a PM candidate".

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 06 Jun 2013 22:37

Sushupti wrote:The way these secular hens (chicks of yore) pinning their hope on "Loh Purush" is quite amazing. Only difference i see is that Modi is perceived as threat to Nehruvuan, Dilli while "Loh Purush" poses no such threat to it.

Its simple divide and rule. Extended now to BJP. Trying to find complicated reasons is self defeating.

They have tried between NaMo and RSS also (with NaMo as Indian modern and RSS as Hindu Bharatiya regressive) -- which is exact opposite of what the above attempt is.

All of it is equal nonsense.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 06 Jun 2013 22:39

Sushupti wrote:[
Sorry for causing "Taqleef". I was talking about her statement "Crowd puller not necessarily a PM candidate".

Which is absolutely true. She was categorical in making the statement that the context of her words was important and the games of misquotation were rampant.

No need to support MSM's lies IMVHO.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 06 Jun 2013 22:44

Meanwhile YS own exact words

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/food- ... 130606.htm

On whether leadership issue will be the focus of the BJP at the National Executive:

The National Executive of the BJP is too large as a body to discuss leadership issues. The BJP has already made it very clear that these issues will be decided by the Parliamentary Board which is authorised to discuss and take a decision on these issues. The National Executive will discuss the economic situation, the political situation and some issues of foreign policy. Those are issues which will be discussed in the National Executive.”

On who is going to be the BJP's leader for the 2014 election:
“I will not go into that question right now. As far as the leadership issue is concerned, most certainly, we should in good time decide who will lead us in the 2014 elections.

On whether the BJP will take the decision based on Modi being the most popular leader to lead the party:
I leave it to the Parliamentary Board at this stage

“At any point of time, it is most essential that we put up a united front. If the impression has gone or gained grounds that it is not a united front, then we should try and correct that and move forward in a united fashion.”

And this is the same speech which is used by some to to use as an excuse to bad mouth YS.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 06 Jun 2013 22:49

A small reminder, YS was the finance minister for ABV who was largerly responsible for seeing India through sanctions, the Kargil war, the messy economy in general, and one of those whose hands stabilized the ship at 2% inflation and 6% growth.

Quite possibly (and I really hope so) the next Fin Min of India again. And this despite that I have been quite critical in the past of YS actions and views w.r.t. Gadakari and other matters in BJP.

On the Food Security Bill:

The Food Security Bill is a disaster waiting to happen. It will open the floodgates of corruption and the BJP should take a firm view of that.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 06 Jun 2013 23:04

Video

Published on Jun 06, 2013
Coming soon: Another promotion for Narendra Modi?: NDTV

Reports say it is almost certain that the BJP in its national executive meet, which kicks off in Goa tomorrow, will announce a national role for Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi as the head of its campaign committee for the Lok Sabha elections. A suggestion by LK Advani to have a second committee for the state elections has been brushed aside, in a clear indication that the BJP doesn't want multiple captains.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 06 Jun 2013 23:04

I have changed my opinion

Sanku is Sudheendra Kulkarni

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 06 Jun 2013 23:12

Mahendra wrote:I have changed my opinion

Sanku is Sudheendra Kulkarni

you are damn good politican

negi · Post by **negi** » 06 Jun 2013 23:59

Mahendra wrote:I have changed my opinion
Sanku is Sudheendra Kulkarni

What was he according to you before ? Varun Gandhi ?

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 07 Jun 2013 00:08

Love purush himself

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 07 Jun 2013 00:15

Sankuji has been proved right again. It is very well thought out strategy by paid media and MAINO clan minions to divide, spread misinformation and confuse BJP supporters and public in general.

We need to calm down and not respond quickly unless all the truth comes out.

Check Hindu's @pmalini tweets. Unbelievable CON job by paid media.

She tells how much she loves Advani who has suddenly became Moderate and his brand of Hindutva is tolerant Vajapyee like and why he is acceptable to Modi's Hindutva which has no place for minorities blah blah. She talks about how great Advani is for visiting Paki land and praising Jinnah and how Modi will never do that.

The looters and Maino crumb eating paid media is trying to pull CON job again. Thankfully SM is there to warn us.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 07 Jun 2013 00:55

Actually Sanku ji is correct, a lot of the so called bad blood b/w NaMoji and Love Purush is media creation

negi · Post by **negi** » 07 Jun 2013 01:36

But then a lot of politics is all about perception in media; love purush se jawani mein to kuch nahin hua ab kya karna chahta hai wo ? Modi ko to kaam karne do .

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 07 Jun 2013 01:49

Coming soon: Another promotion for Narendra Modi?

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/india- ... o-featured

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 07 Jun 2013 01:52

Actually Wind purush stole Love purush's thunder, love purush could not be PM because he was not secular enough, now he is certified and stamped as secular by NDTV

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 07 Jun 2013 02:07

Mahendra wrote:Actually Wind purush stole Love purush's thunder, love purush could not be PM because he was not secular enough, now he is certified and stamped as secular by NDTV

"But why didn’t Lal Krishna Advani make the grade? Why did he fail? One proximate reason may be that he stayed too long in the shadow of Vajpayee to confidently strike out on his own. By the time he separated from the great man, he had no personality for himself and no governing vision for the country, points on which Modi scores by a mile."

http://www.newsinsight.net/Advani%E2%80%99stragedy.aspx

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 07 Jun 2013 02:09

Watch Giriraj Singh's opening statements here. I am impressed by his communication skills. Also, very incisive discussion on the future course of politics in Bihar but in Hindi. As suspected, UCs have lost faith in Nitish due to his recent anti-Modi antics. They interpret his anti-Modi stand as future plan towards BC(-yadav) + Muslim formation. Which means they run risk of getting sidelined in power sharing, as in Lalu days.

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/prime- ... o-featured

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 07 Jun 2013 03:00

Decision on naming Narendra Modi as BJP's campaign chief for 2014 polls likely on Friday

New Delhi: Ahead of the Bharatiya Janata Party's two-day National Executive meeting, an extended Parliamentary Board meeting has been called on Friday in Goa to take a decision on naming Narendra Modi as the party's campaign committee chief for the 2014 Lok Sabha elections.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/decision-on- ... 37-64.html

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 07 Jun 2013 03:25

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 07 Jun 2013 06:09

Wow. Rajiv stuck his neck out there. He does not offer political color to his work, speeches, debates and narration.

Klaus · Post by **Klaus** » 07 Jun 2013 08:49

SwamyG wrote:Wow. Rajiv stuck his neck out there. He does not offer political color to his work, speeches, debates and narration.

If Shri Rajiv can write news columns on Governor Bobby Jindal and appear in TV debates on the topic, then he can definitely not be called completely apolitical. So its no surprise that he chooses to tweet on the evolving Indian scenario.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 07 Jun 2013 09:10

In the digital era, its a simple matter to measure pageviews, page landings, linkbacks and so on. Easy to see which stories sell, which have public demand, what it is people are searching for... Along those lines, it is also painfully clear that anything Namo sells bigtime.

Here goes yet another headlined cover story in the India today featuring namo namaha. Nothing fundamentally new or breaking but still.... Ensoi.

NaMo mantra to dominate BJP's meet in Goa, consensus eludes party

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 07 Jun 2013 09:44

LKA may or may not be all those things he is being attributed to, but his effort in awakening Hindutva soul in middle India during 89-91 time frame allows him the dignity of being judged on a different spreadsheet to the other foot soldiers.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 07 Jun 2013 09:55

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 07 Jun 2013 10:17

^^^ Aah. What ill-health might that be, I wonder... lemme guess - anything but irresistable khujli, lessay?

The patri-ache has found the middle ground.... Probably has saved himself the emabrassment of being surrounded by 'em unwashed karyakartas and all who are full-throatedly and unabashedly rooting for "NaMo for PM".

Alrite, how about a friendly bet - at least one of Sushma and Anant Kr will discover some long lost illness to contract in the next 24 hrs and excuse themselves from what will now become a namo show only...

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 07 Jun 2013 10:25

Mosiqi Acharya ‏@Mosiqi
Not just Uma Bharti, now LK Advani and Jaswant Singh too opt out of National Executive citing health reasons.

Must be something in the air. Hope the people get alright soon. Tomorrow atleast LKA is supposed to attend.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 07 Jun 2013 10:27

If Advani is not coming, it means he has thrown in the towel and none of his demands on separate election campaign committees were really met.

Modi is going to be crowned. He would simply have to take Advani's blessings some other time, after the patriarch has cooled down a bit.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 07 Jun 2013 10:39

My humble prediction onlee: RJB movement will get a fillip.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 07 Jun 2013 11:16

Meanwhile, Cong spokesman, the ever classy sri rashid alvi makes a pertinent observation....

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 07 Jun 2013 11:57

Klaus wrote:
SwamyG wrote:Wow. Rajiv stuck his neck out there. He does not offer political color to his work, speeches, debates and narration.
If Shri Rajiv can write news columns on Governor Bobby Jindal and appear in TV debates on the topic, then he can definitely not be called completely apolitical. So its no surprise that he chooses to tweet on the evolving Indian scenario.

I do not understand why it is incredulous ( the "wow") that RajivM expressed something about Modi. Immediately the word "political" turns up - as if that is something bad in itself.
There is absolutely nothing wrong in favoring a good leader and there is nothing in there to judge RajivM.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 07 Jun 2013 12:05

Actually, Rajiv Malhotra has never held a high opinion at all of BJP or RSS inspite of the fact that his views on religion automatically put him in opposition to the INC. So, it is indeed unusual for Rajiv to be explicitly supporting Modi.

A lot of folks who are not attracted to BJP are highly attracted to Modi - his appeal very much transcends the traditional urban BJP base.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 07 Jun 2013 12:33

Arjun wrote:Actually, Rajiv Malhotra has never held a high opinion at all of BJP or RSS inspite of the fact that his views on religion automatically put him in opposition to the INC. So, it is indeed unusual for Rajiv to be explicitly supporting Modi.

A lot of folks who are not attracted to BJP are highly attracted to Modi - his appeal very much transcends the traditional urban BJP base.

Agreed. I also feel that RM may believe, like perhaps many, that unless the government decides to run with the plan to change the agenda to protect Dharma from assaults, the help should come direct from the government. BJP via MM Joshi caused bad blood in the Thai Sanskrit university fiasco. He clearly sees Modi to be a cut above the rest. At least that's what I perceive.

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 07 Jun 2013 12:45

panduranghari wrote:
Arjun wrote:Actually, Rajiv Malhotra has never held a high opinion at all of BJP or RSS inspite of the fact that his views on religion automatically put him in opposition to the INC. So, it is indeed unusual for Rajiv to be explicitly supporting Modi.

A lot of folks who are not attracted to BJP are highly attracted to Modi - his appeal very much transcends the traditional urban BJP base.
Agreed. I also feel that RM may believe, like perhaps many, that unless the government decides to run with the plan to change the agenda to protect Dharma from assaults, the help should come direct from the government. BJP via MM Joshi caused bad blood in the Thai Sanskrit university fiasco. He clearly sees Modi to be a cut above the rest. At least that's what I perceive.

Can you please elaborate the underlined?

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 07 Jun 2013 12:55

Tweet

Rashid Alvi wrote:Agar Narendra Modi ki wajah se BJP ke netaon ki tabiyat kharab ho jati hai toh BJP ko sochna chahiye ki desh ka kya hoga?

Correction: Sochna chahiye ke doosrey partiyon ke netaon ka kya hoga?

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 07 Jun 2013 14:06

Published on Jun 07, 2013
By Saurabh Dwivedi
10 reasons why Narendra Modi can never become PM: India Today

Only the coalition reason is a factor.

NikhilB · Post by **NikhilB** » 07 Jun 2013 14:26

If NaMo becomes PM in 2014, then Congress will need to say goodbye to Delhi for at least 10 years or more. If NaMo gets complete control over BJP and forms government, it will be almost end of Congress....from the way NaMo operated in Gujrat.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 07 Jun 2013 14:37

Modi’s projection as PM candidate will catapult BJP to power: Goa CM

Goa Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar has voiced his support for Narendra Modi as BJP’s Prime Ministerial candidate, and said that the Gujarat Chief Minister’s projection as the party’s face for 2014, could catapult it to power.

Ahead of the BJP national executive meet in Goa, Parrikar said that the party must set a time table for announcing who will lead the BJP.

“Modi is our most popular leader, I support him. Narendra Modi can bring victory to our party and the decision should be made in this meet. If the party projects Narendra Modi as PM, then the party has full chances of winning,” he said.

He added that in an election, all that matters is who is the better administrator in the minds of the people, and Modi stands out in that regard.