Terror Attacks in Mumbai

Uttam · Post by **Uttam** » 27 Nov 2008 09:18

Newsflash on CNN-IBN:

One Pig hit at Nariman House..

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 27 Nov 2008 09:19

Pigs holed up in the seventh floor of Taj and repeatedly setting fire to the sixth and fifth floor. Thats why the raging fire.

Raj · Post by **Raj** » 27 Nov 2008 09:19

Mathew G wrote:
milindc wrote:Trident Oberoi has Grenade blasts (A Terrorist called and claimed they are 7 of them . also holding hostages)

3 Scums are killed in Taj
Would've been better if they were captured alive. In order to identify their source, phoren or otherwise.

Mate, I agree. Also, it would prove if they are Naga Terrorists or not.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 27 Nov 2008 09:20

Since terrorists looked clean shaven and wearing pants and shirts, I suspect that they were westerners.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Nov 2008 09:20

MilindC,
You are kidding. On an early page I wondered if its Pakiban and bingo its no longer idle wonder! And recall the TSP UN Amby saying its Panipat time once Khyber is breached. He was delivering a warning! Would love to get him some ATS treatment.

RamaY you dont know how deep the Razakar thing goes.

milindc · Post by **milindc** » 27 Nov 2008 09:21

Scum claiming to be 'Shahdulla' , says no surrender..

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 27 Nov 2008 09:23

Ticker on timesofindia.com

"IB says terrorists came from Pakistan"

sunilUpa · Post by **sunilUpa** » 27 Nov 2008 09:23

5 Israeli hostages at Nariman house!

Rahul Shukla · Post by **Rahul Shukla** » 27 Nov 2008 09:24

Breaking News: Suicide car bomb explosion just outside the US Embassy in Kabul...

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 27 Nov 2008 09:24

narayanan wrote:Question. We have seen so many pictures of Pakis. Do those pictures look like the TFTA? What part of TSP? This is what troubles me. The hair styles are not right, the round face is not right, the clean-cut chin on the tall one is not right. One has Mongol features - only part of TSP where people have that is the Northern Areas of POK.

These seem to be recruits from some other part of the duniya, no comment on where because I can't place it. Never seen the Faithful looking like these. I assume they have not caught any alive? No "AllahoAkbar!" yells?

Something is just very very scary here. A whole mini-army of suicidal gunmen? With no escape plan?

I had the same thoughts, from the moment I saw the first released photo of the blue-knapsack terrorist. Not your traditional Pakjabi or Pashtun ethnicity by a long chalk. I thought of reports in recent months to the effect that Al-Q has been trying to recruit "European-looking" operatives to get past ethnic profiling... not too much of a stretch of the imagination to posit that Jihadi groups might be following the same tactic w.r.t. more "Indian looking" (SDRE) operatives.

Possibilities:

(1) Bangladeshi... from the slight build, and the mongol-ish features do show up in that part of the subcontinent sometimes.

(2) Malayali/Malabari Moplah? There have been reports of Malayali and Dakshin-Kannada Muslims being trained by the ISI in forest camps throughout India. The stature and complexion would fit. So would the whole business of boats/trawlers as personnel carriers...

(3) Muslim foreigners of other origin... Southeast Asian, Malay or Indonesian. Dressed like that, they could pass among a million youths of uncertain origin riding BEST buses on any given day. Note the "we didn't understand the language they were speaking" report.

(4) Or they may not be Muslim at all. This event may represent the grand debut of Maoists as urban terrorists... or of Maoist grunt cells to whom the ISI has outsourced its duties. As you said, no "AoA" shouts. Also, the modus operandi, which as someone mentioned previously is a lot more reminiscent of Khalistani methods, than the Indian Mujahedin's style of standoff RC bombs. It IS, however, the Maoist style to descend on a soft target and overwhelm the meagre security with shocking violence.

So far we've heard of them doing it in remote villages in Orissa and Chhatisgarh. About a year ago, I would have laughed at the idea of Maoists being able to accomplish an operation as slickly professional as the current Mumbai attack. But then, there was the incident of 40 AP Greyhounds being killed while crossing a river, by extremely well-placed fire from three machine-gun nests in the Orissa jungle. Definitely a step up in technical sophistication... indicative of better weaponry and better training, probably from ISI operatives. Maybe today, in Mumbai, we're finding out what the ISI operatives were training them for.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 Nov 2008 09:24

TimesNow claims that the intel sources are saying that this is an LeT operation and 10 terrorists came from Karachi.

Dmurphy · Post by **Dmurphy** » 27 Nov 2008 09:25

Mathew G wrote:
pradeepe wrote: The only silver lining I have seen so far...
Funny

No good. They are European MPs.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 27 Nov 2008 09:26

TV says this lashkar came in direct from karachi. and that IB has caught one elsewhere in city

could just be one the semi-feral pakis who abandoned their visa and stayed on. there are said to be 10,000+ officially and mumbai is one of their main haunts.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 27 Nov 2008 09:26

some updates:

> one terrorist has jumped off from either nariman building or a house nearby and is at large. police with a mix of .303 and ak-47 have surrounded the area.

> one LeT terrorist from pakistan nabbed. details awaited.

> IB says clear pak link.

Mathew G · Post by **Mathew G** » 27 Nov 2008 09:26

sunilUpa wrote:5 Israeli hostages at Nariman house!

Yup, was reported by NDTV before.

Dmurphy · Post by **Dmurphy** » 27 Nov 2008 09:27

SSridhar wrote:TimesNow claims that the intel sources are saying that this is an LeT operation and 10 terrorists came from Karachi.

Just as i thought. The audacity of these attacks is typical of the LeT pigs. Akshardham revsisted.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 Nov 2008 09:28

Apparently, the ATS Chief and the other two top officers were moving in a Bolero that was attacked and the officers killed and the Bolero hijacked with terrorists from inside shooting randomly and killing more people.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 27 Nov 2008 09:28

this is the last time I'll say this.

STOP BEHAVING LIKE KIDS AND DON'T USE EMOTICONS ON THIS THREAD.
MATTHEW G, PLEASE NOTE.

enqyoob · Post by **enqyoob** » 27 Nov 2008 09:29

3) Muslim foreigners of other origin... Southeast Asian, Malay or Indonesian. ..

(4) Or they may not be Muslim at all. This event may represent the grand debut of Maoists as urban terrorists... or of Maoist grunt cells to whom the ISI has outsourced its duties. As you said, no "AoA" shouts. Also, the modus operandi, which as someone mentioned previously is a lot more reminiscent of Khalistani methods, than the Indian Mujahedin's style of standoff RC bombs. It IS, however, the Maoist style to descend on a soft target and overwhelm the meagre security with shocking violence.

Yes. Paki trained, but not Paki. I wonder if I can read "their" narco-test transcripts on REDIFF.

Nayak · Post by **Nayak** » 27 Nov 2008 09:29

http://in.rediff.com/news/2008/nov/27tp ... arkare.htm

I woke up with some uneasiness at 2 am on November 27 without knowing that terrorists had struck Mumbai and instinctively switched on the BBC to hear the terrible news that Karkare fell to the bullets of a terrorist. In the TV footage of him, he appeared calm and collected as he put on the helmet and a bullet-proof jacket before chasing the terrorists, but his brave act of fighting the terrorists personally ended in tragedy. He will be remembered for his patriotism, courage and sacrifice, but he should also be remembered for the diplomatic battles he waged for India in the halls of the Vienna International Centre.

krithivas · Post by **krithivas** » 27 Nov 2008 09:29

CNN is repeatedly talking about Afganistan, Pakistan and India in the same breadth .... that the arc of instability is now extending to India. Hope this is not a ruse for re-hyphenation.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 27 Nov 2008 09:30

SSridhar wrote:Apparently, the ATS Chief and the other two top officers were moving in a Bolero that was attacked and the officers killed and the Bolero hijacked with terrorists from inside shooting randomly and killing more people.

And this incident is reported in western media as police turning on local population.
These western media is really cracking me up. clueless as always with sinister motives.

kit · Post by **kit** » 27 Nov 2008 09:30

The ISI along with the mumbai underworld seems definitely to have a hand here.The casualties among the police and the brazen attacks have taken terror to a new level.The political leadership should take this to declare war on anything that is against Indian interests.The premeditated attacks on the financial capital itself suggest larger strategic interests inimical to the Indian republic is involved.Hope GOI shows some spine here.

Nayak · Post by **Nayak** » 27 Nov 2008 09:31

Paki Slimeball in PTI

Pakistan Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi, who is here on a four-day visit, stressed the need for "revisiting" strategies for peace and security of the region and favoured greater linkages between the two countries.

"I am shocked and horrified at the Mumbai incidents," he told PTI.

"No civilised society can tolerate such incidents," he said.

"I assure the Indian government of our complete cooperation and support. Terrorism is a global phenomenon. We in Pakistan deal with it on a daily basis," Qureshi said recalling that Islamabad had witnessed a similar incident recently.

"We will have to join all our resources to fight the menace. The Joint Anti-Terror Mechanism needs to be strengthened further. It needs to meet frequently," he said.

Qureshi said he had suggested to External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee yesterday the need for greater linkages and connect between intelligence agencies so that they can share information to prevent such incidents.

Noting that India and Pakistan are both victims of terrorism, he said "we will have to revisit our strategies for peace and security of the region." "I offer complete support to the Indian government," Qureshi said. PTI

Sai · Post by **Sai** » 27 Nov 2008 09:31

Anti-terrorism squad chief killed by terrorists.

The irony shows how well prepared we are to fight terrorism.

Raj · Post by **Raj** » 27 Nov 2008 09:32

narayanan wrote:
3) Muslim foreigners of other origin... Southeast Asian, Malay or Indonesian. ..

(4) Or they may not be Muslim at all. This event may represent the grand debut of Maoists as urban terrorists... or of Maoist grunt cells to whom the ISI has outsourced its duties. As you said, no "AoA" shouts. Also, the modus operandi, which as someone mentioned previously is a lot more reminiscent of Khalistani methods, than the Indian Mujahedin's style of standoff RC bombs. It IS, however, the Maoist style to descend on a soft target and overwhelm the meagre security with shocking violence.

Yes. Paki trained, but not Paki. I wonder if I can read "their" narco-test transcripts on REDIFF.

Pakistanis come in all shapes and sizes. I would not rule them out right away.

milindc · Post by **milindc** » 27 Nov 2008 09:32

Army on top of Oberoi. Just realized that it is infact the Trident Hilton from last year. Oberoi got it back from Hilton early this year. I stayed at this place last year , very narrow alleys and congested.

IB says that scums took trawler from Karachi to Mumbai.

Still missing terrorists might be holed all over the place. Hijacked a police jeep near Metro Cinema and this is how Encounter Specialist Salaskar was killed

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Nov 2008 09:33

Hats off to KV Rao for his premonition about Hyderabad linkage in some form or the other. And jahpad for me for pooh-poohing him .

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 27 Nov 2008 09:33

darshan wrote:And this incident is reported in western media

Which western media? I am watching CNN/FOX and other media. All of them are clearly talking about a police jeep being hijacked by the terrorists from which they sprayed on innocent civilians.

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 27 Nov 2008 09:35

pradeepe wrote:
vishal wrote:Several MPs also trapped inside Taj
The only silver lining I have seen so far...

No silver lining in that. Last time in 2001 they had 500 of these specimens trapped in one bldg and for all that our soldiers got 2 months of active duty patrolling the IB and the people were saddled with billions spent in mobilization costs. What makes you beleive that 5-10 of these species will make a difference this time. May be its time to dust off the cold start file or may be its time to redraft a new policy called hot pursuit.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 Nov 2008 09:35

The Karachi terrorists had exact knowledge of a building occupied by Jewish families in the vast city of Mumbai. One can sense the hands of the D-company, LeT and the ISI in this.

Nayak · Post by **Nayak** » 27 Nov 2008 09:35

Wonder what was the terror plan by our man on action MMS and man of makeup Patil ?

They appear useless and clueless as ever. When the local pigs will be arrested, expect the mothers and fathers claiming innocence and laying the blame on hindu fundamentalism. The media will have a field day re-focussing the issue on how muslims are deprived of basic rights and yada yada yada.

The script has been perfected to a fine art. Heck even I can predict the tamasha in the next 3 weeks.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 27 Nov 2008 09:36

Then you are only watching and not listening. Pardon me.

For example, one person in CNN clearly said that there are 'rumors' that people were being killed and could be an insider job of ATS.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 Nov 2008 09:37

It means that six boats arrival from Karachi is true. I heard on a channel that they came in six boats. How in the world they can just come like that crossing the coast gaurd.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 27 Nov 2008 09:37

According to Zaine Verjee on CNN, this could be by "Hindu extremists" or "other militants"

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rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 27 Nov 2008 09:37

sai wrote:Anti-terrorism squad chief killed by terrorists.

The irony shows how well prepared we are to fight terrorism.

It is no surprise that people in the front line get killed by the pigs from whom they are trying to protect the country. Similar to an army man dying in a war. That is not an indication of preparation. It is just the risks involved in those jobs.

So don't pull anything and everything that is Indian.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 Nov 2008 09:38

Blast in Oberoi.

eMail sent traced to Russia and LeT

sum · Post by **sum** » 27 Nov 2008 09:38

BijuShet wrote:
pradeepe wrote: The only silver lining I have seen so far...
No silver lining in that. Last time in 2001 they had 500 of these specimens trapped in one bldg and for all that our soldiers got 2 months of active duty patrolling the IB and the people were saddled with billions spent in mobilization costs. What makes you beleive that 5-10 of these species will make a difference this time. May be its time to dust off the cold start file or may be its time to redraft a new policy called hot pursuit.

Sad but true...we never seem to learn.

Nayak · Post by **Nayak** » 27 Nov 2008 09:38

I hope we don't allow FBI and MI-6 to land their dirty feet on India. In the guise of co-operation, these b@stards are known to 'lose' valuable intelligence.

We should inform them that a committee is being set up to investigate into the matter and they will be provided with a copy of that post-investigation. Timeline- 10-15 years.

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 27 Nov 2008 09:39

SSridhar wrote:Apparently, the ATS Chief and the other two top officers were moving in a Bolero that was attacked and the officers killed and the Bolero hijacked with terrorists from inside shooting randomly and killing more people.

I can't imagine any way in which the ATS Chief's vehicle could have been identified, successfully targeted, its occupants killed, and then the vehicle hijacked.... without the direct, active complicity of some ATS officers. Without inside info, there's just no way such a thing could happen.