Bharat Rakshak

Sporadic raids by the IAF continued against Pakistan's forward air bases in the West until the end of the war, and large scale interdiction and close-support operations, and were maintained. The PAF played a more limited part in the operations, and were reinforced by F-104s from Jordan, Mirages from an unidentified Middle Eastern ally (probably Libya) and by F-86s from Saudi Arabia. Their arrival helped camouflage the extent of Pakistan's losses. Libyan F-5s were reportedly deployed to Sargodha, perhaps as a potential training unit to prepare Pakistani pilots for an influx of more F-5s from Saudi Arabia.

Hostilities officially ended at 14:30 GMT on 17 December, after the fall of Dacca on 15 December. India claimed large gains of territory in West Pakistan (although pre-war boundaries were recognised after the war), though the independence of Pakistan's East wing as Bangladesh was confirmed. India flew 1,978 sorties in the East and about 4,000 in the West, while PAF flew about 30 and 2,840. More than 80 percent of the IAF's sorties were close-support and interdiction, and about 65 IAF aircraft were lost (54 losses were admitted), perhaps as many as 27 of them in air combat. Pakistan lost 72 aircraft (51 of them combat types, but admitting only 25 to enemy action). At least 16 of the Pakistani losses, and 24 fell in air combat (although only 10 air combat losses were admitted, not including any F-6s, Mirage IIIs, or the six Jordanian F-104s which failed to return to their donors). But the imbalance in air losses was explained by the IAF's considerably higher sortie rate, and its emphasis on ground-attack missions. On the ground Pakistan suffered most, with 8,000 killed and 25,000 wounded while India lost 3,000 dead and 12,000 wounded. The losses of armoured vehicles were similarly imbalanced. This represented a major defeat for Pakistan.

A former senior Iranian official who asked not to be named said: "There are a lot of human resources in Iran.... Iran is not like Pakistan

jrjrao wrote:
Sources said the knowledge gained by Pakistanis from the wreckage of Stealth helicopter secured from Abbotabad might have helped the Pakistani experts in developing insight about the programming and remote controlling of the CIA operated drones. This critical technological insight led Pakistani experts to decode sensitive gadgetry of the drones.

jrjrao wrote:
Pakistan hacks drone technology -- Can force it to land
by
TFveryTA Ashraf Ansari
http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=130359

He (Lt-Gen Hamid Gul) also criticised India for claiming to be the world’s biggest democracy but it never gave any statement on Salala checkposts attack by Nato that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers. “Two dozens of our brave soldiers were martyred in a pre-planned attack. Not a word of condemnation came from the self-proclaimed and so-called world’s greatest champion of democracy. What could be more condemning than that?

Anujan wrote:To this day, many Pakis believe that they won '65 . . .

. . . and Kargil was a stalemate.

ramana wrote:US and TSP are made for each other. If India offers help prematurely it will be rebuffed just as after 9/11. The duo need each other a little bit more.

Pratyush wrote:Some one ask the Gul, why should India respond to a domestic squabble between Saas and bhau.

jrjrao wrote:
He (Lt-Gen Hamid Gul) also criticised India for claiming to be the world’s biggest democracy but it never gave any statement on Salala checkposts attack by Nato that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers. “Two dozens of our brave soldiers were martyred in a pre-planned attack. Not a word of condemnation came from the self-proclaimed and so-called world’s greatest champion of democracy. What could be more condemning than that?

As has been said many times by many wise folk in this thread before, the Pakis just can't let go of India. They are prisoners and devotees of Indianhood. Forever.

anupmisra wrote:Meanwhile, the paki awam during the course of the war was reading this in their daily newspapers: The Yawn - Dec 4 through Dec 20, 1971.

Anujan wrote:Pakistan’s Modernity: Between the Military and Militancy – by Ayesha Siddiqa

In Pakistan economic progress does not automatically translate into liberal progressive modernity mainly due to the nature of the state. Pakistan’s modernity is structured along two axes: neo-liberal nationalism and right-wing radical nationalism. While the neo-liberal nationalism axis depicts an authoritarian and top-down model of economic and political development marked with the expansion of a national security-obsessed middle class and ruling elite, the right-wing radical nationalism axis denotes the growth of religious radicalism and militancy as symbols of geopolitical modernity that are anti-imperialist in nature. This analysis argues that liberalism is one of the many consequences of modernity, but not the only one. The meeting point of both trajectories has resulted in turning Pakistan into a hybrid-theocratic state which encapsulates a mix of economic neo-liberalism, pockets of social liberalism, formal theocracy and larger spaces experiencing informal theocracy.

http://epw.in/epw/uploads/articles/16890.pdf

anupmisra wrote:Meanwhile, the paki awam during the course of the war was reading this in their daily newspapers: The Yawn - Dec 4 through Dec 20, 1971. This link may be a keeper.

jrjrao wrote:A sad day for those of us who enjoyed CH's writings, and in particular, for his razor-sharp and non-stop dissection of PakiSatan in a way that few others did:

Author, pundit Christopher Hitchens dies at 62

anishns wrote:I was reading the wiki page of 1971 war

...

So, the bloody ummah did step in to try and save the H&D of the Pakis and our Air Force took on the ummah and still emerged victorious I was ROTFL on reading about the Jordanian F-104's

Mihaylo wrote:


I bet you a hari dollah paki rupee the Sardar behind is needling the second paki general.

"If the Indian government can't give us citizenship then they should give us refugee status...We are not treated well in our country," Shobha Ram, one of the Pakistani Hindus, said.

"Since January, around 400 families have come here from Pakistan and are taking refuge with their relations in parts of Punjab, Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh and Rajasthan," Surinder Kumar Billa, who heads the All India Shivsena, an organisation working for Pakistani Hindus, said.

http://pakteahouse.net/2011/05/10/pakistan-child-slavery-20000-children-with-small-heads-are-run-by-the-shrines-for-beggary/

There are very strange individuals in Pakistan associated with a Shrine of Pir Shah Daula in Gujrat, a saint of the Suhrawardi School of thought. During the reign of Emperor Aurangzeb, Shah Daula in Gujrat, is said to have the power to punish disobedient parents in the shape of children with small heads (Micro encephalic Children). These children are the property of the Shrines in different parts of the country and are called “Rats of Shah Daula”.

Scores of worshippers and followers of Pir Daula Shah especially barren women, who beg for children, come to the saint invoking his blessings for the fulfilment of their wishes. The first born, usually with a very small head, is called the “mouse of Shah Daula” and is offered to work as a servant at the shrine. Subsequent births produce normal children.

According to a centuries-old tradition and the follower’s belief, barren women who worship at the shrine of the Sufi saint Shah Daula, will become fertile. But unless they donate their first-born child to the shrine as an oblate, all their subsequent children will be born disabled.

surinder wrote:

Mihaylo wrote:


I bet you a hari dollah paki rupee the Sardar behind is needling the second paki general.

I have seen this photo a million times, but never noticed that utterly gleeful Sardar at top left.

I am pretty sure that the short lady in front of the laughing Sardar is Gen. Arora's wife who accampanied him to Dacca for the surrender. A wife casually accompanies her husband to the biggest surrender post-world war!!!

It does not get more humiliating than this.

RCase wrote:Celebrating Pakistan's victory over SDREs

Folks, it is that time of the year, when back in 1971, Pakistan defeated SDREs and marched back victoriously westward. Please join me in celebrating that momentous victory over the kufrs. I hope you enjoy the mementos from the war.

The declaration of victory:




The surrender of the cowardly SDRE generals to Pakistani General 'Tiger' Niazi:



A salute to all the Indian Defense and Armed Forces personnel .

Kapil wrote:Is that lady in the picture the legendary Arundhati Ghose?
She was in the East Pakistan desk and I think she has mentioned turning up for the surrender ceremony

Cheera

Kapil wrote:Is that lady in the picture the legendary Arundhati Ghose?
She was in the East Pakistan desk and I think she has mentioned turning up for the surrender ceremony

Cheera

abhishek_sharma wrote:(some people believe that treaty of versailles played a role in causing WW 2.)

Charlie wrote:

RamaY wrote:

Charlie wrote:

PAKIS stole gold from Quran and dropped Quran on the floor! BLASPHEMY.

Mihaylo wrote:

The Indian soldier behind the second paki general; his left hand is black as tar, mayb all greasy from repairing a piece of war machinery. That or he literally shoved his hand up his bi%(h niazi's a%%. Their first literal GUBO session !!

ramana wrote:Hamid Gul's whine reflects the Paki idea that they are an unattached part of India. They got a state but are not a nation really. They mentally belong to India.

All is still not lost. They can have the modern Millat status of Art 370. The alternative its to become slaves of Pakhtuns and return to Ghorid days.