Re: Terrorist Attack in Paris
Posted: 24 Nov 2015 07:45
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Stadium attackers No 2 and 3 look TSPian to me.Agence France-PresseVerified account
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US intelligence officials have 'underestimated' Isil's plan to attack the West
In echoes of the criticisms after the 9/11 attacks, a top former intelligence official and Iraq expert has said the CIA and other key spy agencies are drawing flawed conclusions about the nature and intent of the jihadist group
By Ruth Sherlock, US Editor
24 Nov 2015
The US intelligence community is failing in its duty to protect America against the threat of future attacks by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, a former senior intelligence official has warned.
In echoes of the criticisms after the 9/11 attacks, Derek Harvey, who worked as a top intelligence agent and advisor on Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan said the CIA and other key spy agencies have drawn dangerously flawed conclusions about the jihadist group.
"John Brennan and others continue to underestimate Isil and not understand their intent,” Mr Harvey said citing the CIA’s director. “I don’t even know if they read Dabiq [Isil’s propaganda magazine] or their speeches closely.”
Up until the Paris attacks, US intelligence agencies widely believed Isil was focused almost exclusively on its wars in Iraq and in Syria, leaving attacks against Western nations up to “inspired” volunteers.
But in an interview with the Telegraph, Mr Harvey poured scorn on this assessment, insisting that far from being "lone wolves", perpetrators of attacks in the West were part of a command structure.
“Their intent is to strike with organized decentralised operations focused on the West,” he said. “This isn’t just lone wolves inspired by propaganda. This is coordinated.”
Derek Harvey has worked as an intelligence agent and advisor on Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan
Mr Harvey, who worked for the Defence Intelligence Agency in Iraq, and later as the director of Afghanistan-Pakistan for the Pentagon’s Central Command said he had quit in frustration at the intelligence community’s “lack of creativity” when it came to thinking about and understanding jihadist insurgencies.
He said that because the jihadist group behaved differently to Al-Qaeda, which focuses on “bigger, high profile” attacks, the agencies were underestimating the Isil threat.
He described an institution where little importance is given to experience, with key positions focused on the Middle East being filled by "young people" who had never been to the countries they were analysing. Little attention has been paid, he said, to the jihadists' ideology and literature.
Mr Harvey, said many of the people plotting these attacks in the West were the "same people" he had monitored as an agent in Iraq. He was familiar with their operations and still had contacts in the field, he said.
The intention is less to kill on a mass scale in one hit, than to launch several smaller attacks that spread fear and paranoia in Western societies.
“Isil understand that it doesn’t have to be a complicated and or complex operation like 9/11,” he said. “Isil will put a bomb in a taxi and then send the taxi someplace, and driver won't know he is carrying the explosive.”
As per the attacks in Paris, the jihadists will seek to attack in the “grey zones” of a country’s social makeup, seeking to increase tensions between Muslims and other religious groups, or between immigrant and non-immigrant communities.
To this end, it has been gathering domestic volunteer recruits. Whilst the jihadist group has imposed stringent measures on the formation of partnerships with other extremist groups – for example, it reportedly took several months of negotiations before Isil partnered with Boko Haram – it is said to form partnerships with individual volunteers with relative ease.
James Comey, the director of the FBI recently said the bureau has more than 900 active investigations ongoing in 50 states that may be Isil linked.
Despite all these, there have been "no specific or credible threats" of a planned attack on US soil on the scale of the Paris bloodshed, Jeh Johnson, the secretary for homeland security said this month.
Members of the New York City Police Strategic Response Group are seen in New York's Times Square following the attacks in Paris
An intelligence source that monitors jihadist activity in the country also warned against putting too much stock in Isil’s “exaggerated propaganda”, describing the group’s slick videos warning of attacks against the West as a tool designed to spread panic – which is often not backed by a specific threat.
Nonetheless, the source said there had been a marked increase in the number of people expressing sympathy and support for the group within the United States.
“Since this time last year to now, my work load, in terms of the number of people I have to track, has more than doubled,” the source said. “As the group gains notoriety, it is seen as more legitimate and so receives more support.”
He described the intelligence community as “playing catch up” to find ways to monitor Isil in the US. Sometimes there were “too many people” to follow.
The group also did not use traditional lines of communication he said, making them harder to trace.
Once supporters volunteer to be part of a terror attack, they do get “coordinated” support from Isil: “A lot of the funding comes directly from Isil,” the source said. “So there is some coordination to it.”
The source agreed with Mr Harvey’s assessment that because Al-Qaeda traditionally engaged in operations that took a lot of planning, he and his colleagues had had a better chance of thwarting the attacks: “their communications were easier to monitored because there was more of them,” the source said. “The focus on smaller attacks makes them faster and harder to stop.”
Wrong Saar. You have no idea. European commission is DA power.Lalmohan wrote:brussels role as capital of europe is largely ceremonial. nothing of any importance for europe or even nato really happens there. it was chosen as a neutral venue. just like for the wars between britain, france and germany... and just like then, the real decisions are made in berlin and paris and some in london
Rahul m JiRahul M wrote:saarji, please use the BR wiki which was created for this purpose.K Mehta wrote:Regarding Nigeria-
I feel that there is a lack of indocentric information sources especially a country specific primer ala CIA factbook or BBC country profile, that Indians to use. This is something I have been requesting BRF to create, just like the Indian military pages it created, leading to greater interest in military matters by Indians.
http://bharatrakshak.wikia.com/
Understandabe confyuujun. In Brussels, all their comrades were probably dressed in Armani suits and sitting in Meetings in the Parliament d'Oirope sipping L'Eau de Pepe and debating how much tax to impose on EU to pay for airport security. And how much to fine the French for the Global Warming and Carbon release from all those soosai bums and TV cameras.No security what so ever. Just two military guys standing near gate
Lalmohan wrote:re picture: i was in turkey recently and quite a few times burly looking gents in the bazaar (and tourist spots) would ask me if i was pakistani. when i replied hindustani (they understand that word) there was a bit of a smile of relief and a 'welcome to turkey'.
now, they may have been mush-afficcianado's, but i suspect they were actually 'civil servants' keeping an eye on paquis
The mayor of Brussels has accused the Belgian government of creating an “Islamic regime” as the emergency lockdown which has shut most of the city continues.
Belgian Prime Minister Charles Michel said yesterday that the city would remain on high alert for at least another six days.
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Brussels schools and Metro reopen with security presence high
The state of emergency, which was introduced on Saturday, has seen schools, universities, museums, the Metro system, shops, restaurants and bars shut.
But the city’s mayor Yvan Mayeur is far from pleased with the situation, branding it a “general disaster” in an interview with the RTBF news channel.
He said: “We cannot continue to live in these conditions. We will not live under the Islamic regime.
“This is to say that if schools are closed, if we banned the cultivation, if we banned the practice of commerce, if we [do not allow] people to live, to have fun, to relax. If it prohibits all, under what system do we live?”
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Brussels is on high alert for a Paris-style terrorist attack
The emergency measures are being enforced to try to prevent a Paris-style attack in the city, where it is believed that Salah Abdeslam – one of the gunmen who carried out the restaurant killings in the French capital – is hiding.
Following the attacks in Paris, friends said the 26-year-old travelled to Brussels and was trying to make his way to Syria.
Mr Mayeur said the city must “now take measures to return to a normal situation while continuing the hunt for these people
He added: “I do not want to return too quickly to normal, but I do not want to rush headlong into a regime that is not ours.”
He criticised a suggestion by the country’s Education Minister Joëlle Milquet that “safe rooms” should be built into schools.
“We will not build bunkers in schools. We do not have the first hundred [Euros] for it. So do not come up with proposals that do not make sense,” he added.
The Molenbeek district of Brussels has come under particular focus for its links with suspected Jihadists. It is believed that the Paris attack may have been planned from there.
Mr Mayeur said the city should “avoid the hysterisation” and “remain reasonable”.
Sad that a drill to stop public demonstrations after the pumping of police bullets into a teenager is being passed off as an anti terror drill with social utility. Drills need to be held without such excuses - in this case it is not an anti-terror drill but an anti-riot drill. Not much difference in terms of responsesSatya_anveshi wrote:Chicago Police is releasing video of black teen killed by police. In anticipation of protests, city mobilized forces and alerted all systems.
Why am I posting this here in this thread?
Because one of the purposes it serves for US is to drill, prepare, and respond for the events like Paris. These drill opportunities sometimes arise on their own or created in a controlled manner at opportune times. I suspect this one to be such a case.
I believe India does it too but must be more frequent and comprehensive to test all response parameters.
US is a weird place when it relates to minorities. I am wondering whether pumping bullets into a teen is more heinous or using riot as potential drill oppty (right after paris attack) is.shiv wrote:Sad that a drill to stop public demonstrations after the pumping of police bullets into a teenager is being passed off as an anti terror drill with social utility. Drills need to be held without such excuses - in this case it is not an anti-terror drill but an anti-riot drill. Not much difference in terms of responses
Yes there have been drills in Bangalore - at least 3 that I know of. Perhaps Mumbai has had some
My bad. It should have been St. Surender.UlanBatori wrote:Ooooo! They probably hand out the Order of St. Surrender for that.
UlanBatori wrote:So the Frogistanis sit on their Louis XIV Chaise De Derrieres Avec La Parfum for years as part of NATO, which controls airspace over Iraq, watching the ISIS rape and murder the Yazidis in 70mm Technicolor, and NOW they go with their Intelligantz Superiore and find a target to bomb with their super-bombeures et les Avions de Guerre, and HIT A KINDERGARTEN??? Why? The school did not post a sign on the roof saying "Le Montessori"?
Of course, I was right:
Let's think about that for moment. It's the ultimate in Oiropean Original Thinking. 9/11/2001 attacks in US - then the Anthrax Scare that was eventually traced to some disgruntled research scientist/nutcase.Powder that alarmed Inspecteaur Clouseau and Detective Erquool Pwaoreau at Brussels mosque is flour
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Last time in World Wars these Belgian Cows were liberated by IA Bulls in less than 2 Hours . They may need IA again for Half day again.UlanBatori wrote:The trouble with their logic is that Belgium is so full of cows that most Belgians are quasi-bovine, and probably well-immunized against Anthrax. Now if they were to find some blue-painted containers, that might be the Satan Bug, and much more serious.
"homophobic, racist and anti-Semitic" comments made during the performance.
They were also "regarded as furthering National Socialist ideology," an offense under Belgian law,
"We are very satisfied with this judgment," (Eric Lemmens, a lawyer for Belgium's Jewish organizations) told CNN.
He praised the judgment's finding that a conviction was necessary in the face of such repeated offending, or social harmony would suffer.
The 49-year-old comic has repeatedly denied he is anti-Semitic, but has been fined numerous times in France for anti-Semitic comments. The French government said last year that it wanted to ban his live performances, while the British government banned him from the UK, amid a storm over a hand gesture popularized by the comic.
Critics hold that the "quenelle" -- which involves pointing the right arm straight down and touching it with the left hand -- is a modified Nazi salute; Dieudonne counters that it is anti-establishment, but not anti-Semitic.
French soccer star Nicolas Anelka, a friend of Dieudonne's, was banned for five matches and fined 80,000 pounds ($130,000) after making the gesture as part of a goal-scoring celebration in a Premier League match in 2013. He subsequently quit his club over the punishment.
In March, Dieudonne was given two month suspended sentence by a French court for "condoning terrorism" over comments that suggested he sympathized with the attackers in January's Charlie Hebdo attacks.
The comedian had written a since-deleted post stating "I feel like Charlie Coulibaly" -- combining the surname of one of the terrorists with the popular slogan expressing solidarity with victims. CNN's Tim Hume reported and wrote from London, and Pierre-Eliott Buet reported from Paris.
Frogistan now says no problem with Syrian 'regime troops' being 'used' to fight ISIS - BUT.. only within 'framework and process' leading to Assadlessness.When u have them by the ****, their hearts and minds will follow
Too bad.We could have run into each other in that grand bazaar sipping pomegranate tea and eating halwa.Lalmohan wrote:ramanaji - no, but close
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