Re: Challenge of China_ Political, Economic & Military Responses
Posted: 08 Jun 2025 17:26
by drnayar
SRajesh wrote: ↑24 May 2025 13:59
Is there any truth to these Youtube reports of:
1. China's Covid death runs into few hundred million
2. Actual population is around 800 million
3. Streets and Malls are empty in most cities
4. Factories are shutting down
And if these are true can they field a big army in case of conflict??
Just like their Mizzilies their Army numbers are also Dud and they fold up if Unkil gives a good rap!!
There are reports of Covid in kerala state as well ..
Re: Challenge of China_ Political, Economic & Military Responses
Posted: 08 Jun 2025 22:18
by Vayutuvan
bala wrote: ↑08 Jun 2025 10:29
Don't know how true this news, but this is stunning news - Xi jinping is under house arrest.
Sumit Peer and Sree Iyer are reporting: Apparently Belarus chief had to meet Xi at his house. Xi has been missing for 15 days now.
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How is Xi gonna meet DJT then? Probably a Chinese agent in MI like mask. Some SS guy will be in Trump mask.
Re: Challenge of China_ Political, Economic & Military Responses
Posted: 09 Jun 2025 03:59
by bala
Vayutuvan wrote: ↑08 Jun 2025 22:18
How is Xi gonna meet DJT then?
Watch this for more inner detail on what is going with Emperor and CMC. Hu Jin Tao the previous guy before Emperor is playing some chess moves. The most trusted person of Emperor has thrown the emperor under the bus and wants him removed. There are 7 key people in top leadership of CCP. 3 were removed by Emperor. One of his trusted guys is in the 4 left and this person (a vice chairman) has no trust for Emperor's leadership. Emperor has decimated the top PLA honchos one by one. PLA is mighty pissed with the Emperor and they are baying for his blood. DJT is going to meet a weak Emperor and DJT is hoping that Emperor caves in to US/his demands.
watch this: youtube.com/watch?v=LjDWMXpT5_U
Re: Challenge of China_ Political, Economic & Military Responses
Posted: 09 Jun 2025 22:33
by SSridhar
Xi's disappearance happens regularly. I do not read anything into it at all, even if it were true.
Re: Challenge of China_ Political, Economic & Military Responses
Posted: 11 Jun 2025 09:49
by Baikul
I have been following India - China relations over the past decade but never in any depth to master the nuances.
From my surface level perspective it seems to me that never - in recent memory at least- has Beijing come out so openly, blatantly and aggressively in support of Pakistan as in the last skirmish with our western neighbours.
Is it fair to say that Beijing, who was perhaps earlier thought of as a serious rival and threat, should now be viewed as an openly hostile neighbour, if not an outright enemy?
In the aftermath of the Pahalgam crisis can we say that the Chinese, who were always pro Pakistani, have now made a clear, decisive and strategic ‘upstep’ that means that China will be more aggressive, open and blunt in supporting any Pakistani misadventure?
I’m hoping for a more nuanced discussion than “we were always enemies, saar”.
Re: Challenge of China_ Political, Economic & Military Responses
Re: Challenge of China_ Political, Economic & Military Responses
Posted: 17 Jun 2025 04:23
by drnayar
"The international hit, Ne Zha, tells the story of a young boy destined to destroy the world. He must fight to choose between good and evil in order to break the shackles of fate and become the hero he desperately wants to be."
We hardly discuss chinese cultural stuff here.. but have to say there are incredible connections to Hindu lore.
Who is hindu mythology would be Nezha
Re: Challenge of China_ Political, Economic & Military Responses
Re: Challenge of China_ Political, Economic & Military Responses
Posted: 21 Jun 2025 20:40
by ramana
SSridhar wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 22:33
Xi's disappearance happens regularly. I do not read anything into it at all, even if it were true.
However the news of the churn is interesting.
All is not well in Beijing.
We are seeing glimpses of inner tussle.
It behoves us to analyze. We maybe wrong but the process helps sharpen the mind.
Re: Challenge of China_ Political, Economic & Military Responses
Posted: 21 Jun 2025 20:46
by ramana
Baikul wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025 09:49
I have been following India - China relations over the past decade but never in any depth to master the nuances.
From my surface level perspective it seems to me that never - in recent memory at least- has Beijing come out so openly, blatantly and aggressively in support of Pakistan as in the last skirmish with our western neighbours.
Is it fair to say that Beijing, who was perhaps earlier thought of as a serious rival and threat, should now be viewed as an openly hostile neighbour, if not an outright enemy?
In the aftermath of the Pahalgam crisis can we say that the Chinese, who were always pro Pakistani, have now made a clear, decisive and strategic ‘upstep’ that means that China will be more aggressive, open and blunt in supporting any Pakistani misadventure?
I’m hoping for a more nuanced discussion than “we were always enemies, saar”.
This support is a fallout of the inner tussle going on in Beijing after the withdrawal from occupied patrol points along LAC.
The faction that supports the Pakistan card became prominent.
However the abject performance of Chinese weapons in Operation Sindoor have struck a blow to this group. The defeat is not just that of Pakistan but of Chinese PLA and the so-called hardliners too.
As usual it takes a while to figure out the effect as China withdraws into a shell in such times.
Re: Challenge of China_ Political, Economic & Military Responses
Posted: 24 Jun 2025 12:20
by SSridhar
Baikul wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025 09:49Is it fair to say that Beijing, who was perhaps earlier thought of as a serious rival and threat, should now be viewed as an openly hostile neighbour, if not an outright enemy?
In the aftermath of the Pahalgam crisis can we say that the Chinese, who were always pro Pakistani, have now made a clear, decisive and strategic ‘upstep’ that means that China will be more aggressive, open and blunt in supporting any Pakistani misadventure?
Baikul, IMHO, the biggest reason is that China is still unsure if it is even the sole 'regional hegemon'.
This feeling of insecurity feeds into all its actions. Of course, "we have always been enemies" is a correct statement. After all, how else can we describe a country which gave nukes & missiles to our enemy with the sole purpose of bottling us up?
But, XJP may now be pressed for time because his fourth term may not be a guarantee for him anymore as the social contract which he entered with his people of making China a 'wealthy nation' is running into a very hard time. You never know what will happen by the time the 21st National Congress of the CPC meets in late 2027.
Now, XJP may be planning an invasion of Taiwan in 2026-2027 timeframe. He is unsure if India would remain neutral or join with other QUAD partners in military operations. Neither in Doka La nor in Ladakh PLA performed well.
He probably never expected India to dramatically escalate in the 4-day war. China has traditionally thought of Indian leaders as 'having no stomach' when it comes to the crunch, even though Uri, Doka La, Balakot, and Ladakh had shown increasing Indian belligerence and determination.
China probes through TSP and wanted to see how new Indian military structures/reorgs are working. When things really went out of control, China got alarmed. All its h/w failed miserably and the only thing that worked was the satellite imagery it provided to TSP. TSP will now demand more strategic platforms from China and it will have to oblige too. China used to instigate TSP to keep us blocked economically, but now it may be planning to bypass us militarily in its goal for 'regional hegemony' by gas-lighting one more war (after Ukr, West Asia etc) between us & TSP at an appropriate time.
After this abject defeat, Pakistan now has an upper hand in the TSP-China equation because as usual TSP has the trigger at its own temple.
Re: Challenge of China_ Political, Economic & Military Responses
Posted: 27 Jun 2025 11:08
by bala
Li Keqiang, China’s former Premier who said that China’s official economic numbers were “for reference only”. This is the man who managed China’s economy but didn’t trust the GDP stats of his own government that was officially published. He died under mysterious circumstances in 2023. Li Keqiang used his own Index which used electricity consumption, rail freight volume, and actual loan data instead of the official Chinese GDP number.
Ken Cao exposes this episode in China.
Premier Li Exposed China’s Fake GDP — Now He’s Dead