Understanding the US - Again

[Cybaru]

Got it!

[hgupta]

No, I just couldn't make sense of what you said until I read it thrice. So clearly my "English skills" are not superior.

Not my problem. It is pretty clear what I wrote.

[Vayutuvan]

That may change. Or, may I say, likely will change.

In short the gloves are off. "You interfered in my elections, I will in yours" is the current mind set.

I doubt it. Better to keep quiet and let Russia and China bear the brunt. Who ever wins, there sure is going to be "election interference from Russia/China" claims from the losing party.

That time will come but right now it is not that time. In about one year, we will know in what direction the US is going. There are several combinations of who becomes POTUS, who gets majority in House and who gets majority in the senate and court appointments, whether SCOTUS gets expanded, oil prices, if and when the si valley bubble bursts, ...

I will reiterate that it is important to watch closely two or three important events that have already been scheduled

1. Presidential Debate on June 24
2. Trump sentencing on July 11
3. RNC
4. DNC

The US voters are not stupid.

[ramana]

cybaru and sanman, this forum does not care for your arguments about American politics. Desist immediately. Thanks

Warnings issued

I am sorry but warningnis too light. I had admonished earlier but pattern continued.
So am banning both for a short period.

[NRao]

AoA.

Wonder if Adani, by any strange chance, bought WaPo?

Khatam kar do ji.

Morale plummets inside The Washington Post as staffers express alarm over publisher’s attempts to squash story

[vera_k]

Peak America?
Will Debt Sink the American Empire?

After growing for decades, this year the U.S. debt will roughly match its GDP.

[hgupta]

AoA.

Wonder if Adani, by any strange chance, bought WaPo?

Khatam kar do ji.

Morale plummets inside The Washington Post as staffers express alarm over publisher’s attempts to squash story

This is a classic case of the inmates running amok and running the asylum. They don't like it when the publisher attempts to exercise control over the staffers and writers. CNN is really egging on the staffers to rebel and control the narrative, not letting the publisher or leading editor control the narrative.

[chetak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mULVrUGh6wo


This Is Gonna Get Us ALL Blown Up!” Jeffrey Sachs On Russian Invasion






This video is about 33:03 minutes long.

Well worth a watch



Economics professor and author Jeffrey Sachs has spent too long in the geo-political arena to take the official US policy on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine at face value.

He calls for negotiations in regards to Vladimir Putin’s recent ‘peace’ deal, which demands that Ukraine hand over large swathes of land to Russia.

Although Jeffrey comes armed with a litany of crimes to lay at the doorstep of the collective west, Piers Morgan presses him on the central issues.

Isn’t it strange that Putin hasn’t invaded a NATO member? And why doesn’t Sachs hold Putin to the same standard of conduct as the US government?

00:00 - Introduction
01:50 - Putin's plan for peace
08:20 - "The US started this!"
15:10 - NATO encroachment or Russian propaganda?
21:30 - American Interference
27:20 - Will joining NATO save Ukraine?

[vera_k]

Couple of related articles. A new wave of immigration is under way to the USA for those willing to take advantage of it.

What Happens When Migrants Arrive in America’s Suburbs?
How Indians are trying to illegally enter into US

[Vayutuvan]

ToI is going after Indian illegal immigrants while millions from pour into the US through the southern border including tens of thousands of Chinese. It is Toilet paper which soils your bottom with their news print.

[Vayutuvan]

Couple of related articles. A new wave of immigration is under way to the USA for those willing to take advantage of it.

What Happens When Migrants Arrive in America’s Suburbs?
How Indians are trying to illegally enter into US

How are they linked, @vera_k ji?!

[vera_k]

Reminds me of that late 19th to early 20th century migration wave where Europeans flooded in after large ships started making the trip, except now people are using airplanes to make the trip.

Anyone who can make it to the USA is given a fair shake by the local population, and more people from India are making the effort now.

[hanumadu]

Reminds me of that late 19th to early 20th century migration wave where Europeans flooded in after large ships started making the trip, except now people are using airplanes to make the trip.

Anyone who can make it to the USA is given a fair shake by the local population, and more people from India are making the effort now.

It looks like it's not the mexicans anymore who are crossing the border in numbers. Its countries further south like ecuador, colombia, venezuela, elsalvador etc and they usually don't speak even a little bit of English. I guess it's time for Americans to learn Espanol.

I don't understand this desperation of USA for more and more immigrants right after a pandemic in the middle of a housing crisis. Also, the number of student visas they give is just stupid when the H1 numbers don't match.

I wonder what Mexico is getting out of all this. It can close its borders and stop all immigration into the US via land. I hope it is extracting its pound of flesh from America.

[sanjaykumar]

I think in Florida there was a movement to deport all illegal immigrants save for pool boys.

The details are a little fuzzy but you get the idea.

[vera_k]

Congress Debates Expanded Draft Amid Military Recruitment Challenges

The United States military has not activated a draft in more than 50 years, but Congress is weighing proposals to update mandatory conscription, including by expanding it to women for the first time and automatically registering those eligible to be called up.

There are provisions that grant US citizenship upon serving in the military. Read together with the new immigration wave that has started post Covid.

[vera_k]

It looks like it's not the mexicans anymore who are crossing the border in numbers. Its countries further south like ecuador, colombia, venezuela, elsalvador etc and they usually don't speak even a little bit of English. I guess it's time for Americans to learn Espanol.

Not far from the truth. Some states like California will be majority Latino in a generation. Already its commonplace to switch between Spanish and English in southern california. Spanish as a second language is taught in late middle school to high school, so a lot of the native population already has a passing familiarity with it.

California’s Population

More than half of young Californians (52% of those 24 and under) are Latino. Conversely, more than half of those 65 and older are white (53%).

[NRao]

It looks like it's not the mexicans anymore who are crossing the border in numbers. Its countries further south like ecuador, colombia, venezuela, elsalvador etc and they usually don't speak even a little bit of English. I guess it's time for Americans to learn Espanol.

Not far from the truth. ....................

There are states that have had Spanish as a 2nd language since 30+ years ago. Not just my kids, but my grand kids (oldest 7) are fluent in English and Spanish.

The only problem is that the Spanish taught in schools is from Spain, not Mexico.

[chanakyaa]

Yes, it is election time in Umrika, which means media feels forced to talk about burgeoning national debt, but the numbers are dangerously high and it is not good for the currency. Business will not be as usual for too long...This will have global consequences.

(WSJ) Will Debt Sink the American Empire?

[hanumadu]

California’s Population

More than half of young Californians (52% of those 24 and under) are Latino. Conversely, more than half of those 65 and older are white (53%).

I think California is already majority non white.
Couple of years ago, half of all new borns in USA were non white.

[vera_k]

^ Latino alone for California, not in combination with Asian, Black or other minorities.

[rahulm]

Julian Assange freed after pleading guilty to one espionage charge at a hearing in Saipan

The 14 year story is finally over. Assange pleads guilty, is sentenced to time already served and walks free as a guilty felon.

This man made possible the meme "Conspiracy theories are many times true:

[A_Gupta]

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-craz ... re-obscene

[hnair]

Warning issued to A_Gupta.

Please post something of relevance with an India angle.

[Vayutuvan]

Today is the presidential debate - 9PM Atlanta time. CNN is conducting the debate. All major networks would be broadcasting. 90 mins duration.

- No live audience
- 29 fact checkers
- 60 journalists
- both have to stand for 90 mins
- Moderators are Jake Tapper and Dana Bash (both are primetime news anchors on CNN)

I will be watching to see if any questions come up on Indo-Pacific, India buying Russian oil, reference to Modi and "democracy is backsliding across the world", and such.

(I am also interested in the issues the US citizens are facing and who will be better for the US, Indo-American relations, immigration reforms, economy, inflation, jobs, China overtaking the US in Technology, Space, and Defense).

[Manish_P]

Julian Assange freed after pleading guilty to one espionage charge at a hearing in Saipan

The 14 year story is finally over. ....

The empire will strike back. It never forgets.

[ramana]

Last night debate was won by Trump.
This puts a new twist to US Presidential race. With Biden's positive dislike for rising India ( variety of examples right after his inauguration to AI manipulation) need to debate whom the 1.75% Indian Americans should support?

[SRajesh]

^^Ramanaji
I saw the debate frankly speaking no Redneck true born Unkil-ka-Aulad would vote for Sleepy Jo after that performance.
This clearly shows Sleepy Jo is the real Mukhota ( a term wrong used for our dear Atalji) and the Deap State behind him lies exposed and are in panic mode!!
What are the options:
1.Get Mylapore Mami (now she is being billed as first Black Women President, there you go. all the mylapore folks who were going gaga over mami will know her true colour, And Ramanaji there is no disrepect or its not used as a pejorative)
2.Get someone else??
Rmours are to wait for Sleepy to make a grand gesture in the Convention where he turns down the offer to sleep in Lincoln Room!!
This is like music to Trumpwa. There is even talk of no September Debate!! and that will be an unmitigated disaster to Dems and the Deep State.
The Indian orign folks if they are smart should swtich to Trump for atleast we the B"£$%^& and he's our B£"$%^&*.
He openly said that(meaning Trmpwa):
1.He will get Ukraine shithead to smoke peace pipe with Putinwa
2. He will let Hamas be eradicated
That's like Chicken Vindaloo cooked in Bhoot Jholakia chillies and served to all Peacefuls and their stupid Peacniks supporters!!

[bala]

Last night debate was won by Trump.

Well all Dems channels are spinning it as Trump lost but acknowledge sleepy Joe was a disaster.

For Indian origin Americans, time to pause and take stock of the behind the curtain actors, who are stage managing Sleepy Joe and calling the shots. Mylapore m is another disaster in terms of the role of El Presidente of USA. Names that are thrown around are Newsom Gavin of Kalifornia and others, but the Dems are staring at a rout in terms of elections. Will need to watch and wait for the outcome. Hope there is no rigging of elections by the Deep State.

All in all, Trump 2.0 would be better for India. Garshitty et al are like potted plants for the Deep State/Dems. Quad is going nowhere. Trump 2.0 will put an end to Ukraine and Eurotards. Israel will be greenlighted to clean house promptly. IMEC will gain momentum. Green cards for Indian students upon graduation will become true. Maybe Vivek R gets a juicy role to clean up the US system.

[putnanja]

For what it is worth, quite a few Indian Americans I have interacted with at work and other forums are staunchely pro-dem! They seem eager to jump into the dem bandwagon. Many just want to show off their liberal creds and blend in. THey don't realize the long term impact on India or themselves in US. The Indian-american girl who got arrested for calling for murder of city council is effect of too much pro-dem leaning folks.

[NRao]

Last night debate was won by Trump.
This puts a new twist to US Presidential race. With Biden's positive dislike for rising India ( variety of examples right after his inauguration to AI manipulation) need to debate whom the 1.75% Indian Americans should support?

Kamala Harris, of course.

If "rising India" is the focus of a discussion, then why would any 1.75% Indian Americans not want a wreck?

Even today Bharat is not rising because of Bharatiya efforts. Bharat, today, is rising because CPC released the virus, Galwan, Ukraine war, Gaza, etc. Bharat is rising because, relatively, others are failing.

Bharat, even with her Islamic fatwas, and Cavelry Mega churches will survive because others are failing.

Bharatiyas should accelerate these failures. Stop analyzing. Work diligently to wreck, yes, wreck these entities.

In fact if Bharatiyas are analyzing, say in the next 5 years, then Bharat has failed. Imo, Bharat will be a success when we no longer have such threads on BR.

[A_Gupta]

Moderator, if Biden’s senility is of relevance to India then so is Trump’s unhingedness.

[hnair]

A_Gupta, you post many interesting links but the link you posted above was of zero value to this forum and even if it has value, you didn’t explain how, hence the warning. We have been forced to ban two senior members for a month and don’t want any more casualties.

SRajesh, keep such rhetoric and name calling off the board.

Again for the umpteenth time: Everyone please cooperate - the U.S. Govt and legislature has been interfering heavily in Indian internal affairs, including cozying with separatists and running election interference. So forum has limited patience when folks come in with their American POVs on American politics.

[vera_k]

Hope there is no rigging of elections by the Deep State.

It does not matter. US elections can not be proven to be fair with the disparate processes and laws all over the country. Trump already stated yesterday that he will not accept any results that are not "fair and legal".

The only hope in that case is for an election that elects Trump by a landslide.

[Vayutuvan]

For what it is worth, quite a few Indian Americans I have interacted with at work and other forums are staunchely pro-dem! They seem eager to jump into the dem bandwagon. Many just want to show off their liberal creds and blend in. THey don't realize the long term impact on India or themselves in US. The Indian-american girl who got arrested for calling for murder of city council is effect of too much pro-dem leaning folks.

My experience as well. Second generation (i.e. children of those who immigrated from India) do not have any hamdardi for India other than the usual "India is a poor country and the oppressed need to helped. Upper caste hindus are the culprits" idea about India.

[vera_k]

Ex-Portage mayor's bribery conviction overturned, narrowing corruption law

Debated whether this belongs in the India-US thread or here. The US Supreme Court legalized bribing government officials long as the bribe happens after an official act in favor, not before. This likely creates a trap for Indian public officials too, as any number of US persons or multinationals will now be all too willing to bestow financial rewards following a favorable action.

The Supreme Court overturned the bribery conviction of a former Indiana mayor on Wednesday, the latest in a series of decisions narrowing the scope of federal public corruption law.

The high court's 6-3 opinion along ideological lines found the law criminalizes bribes given before an official act, not rewards handed out after.

[chetak]

TRUMP WINS

The US Supreme Court says former president is absolutely immune from prosecution for official acts.

Donald Trump called SC ruling as "Big win for Constitution & Democracy".

After Presidential Debate, Liberals fall on face in SC also.

@JoeBiden should know that Bharat is also watching if Elections are Free & Fair in the United States, just like US was!



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng- ... ity-ruling

[Yagnasri]

or to have another round of COVID.

Please do not underestimate the power of the establishment of the US if they can "manage" a few cities in swing states, they can still win.

[vera_k]

Or Option D. Sentence Trump to prison time for the New York conviction. New set of candidates takes over for both parties.

[Vayutuvan]

The US Supreme Court says former president is absolutely immune from prosecution for official acts.

They can get him on non-official acts. It is not going to matter this election cycle. If Trump wins, then he would never see the inside of a prison. If Biden (or a replacement) wins, Trump is finished - his business, his freedom, and his everything.

[hnair]

Folks, please stick to what is relevant to India interests!

Chetak, no more random American PoV posts… deleted a few!