Re: Indian Economy News & Discussion - Nov 27 2017
Posted: 04 May 2023 00:32
Is Amazon loosing steam in India or it is getting mired in the politics of its CEO?
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ONDC seem Biggest Threat for Swiggy/Zomato
Price of McDonald’s Burger
• Swiggy/Zomato - ₹282.5
• ONDC - ₹109.4
Over 60% Savings for Users
This is UPI Moment for India’s E-Commerc
Modi govt brings CA, CS, CWAs & accountants carrying financial transactions and managing black money of clients under PMLA.
So if found guilty, they'll be dealt under PMLA now. That's officially game over for ICAI & ICSI cartel
BTW, wasn't KPMG a common Auditor for recent bank collapses in the US.
I think this will be a wrong approach for India and a case of blindly aping the west/US. Such high rates of failure which come after astronomical valuations are made possible in the US since the Fed has been printing money out of its musharraff and pumping it into the financial system with low interest rates. Cost of capital becoming frivolous will only encourage irresponsible conduct and seamsters. There will be a few genuine innovators who will succeed but 90% failure rate is ridiculous and a rotten stinky bubble that will burst when interest rates go up, its not a virtue.Pratyush wrote:Don't worry about startups failing.
Over 90% of the startups fail in the first year.
I used to worry about a lack of startups in India.
We need thousands of these. So that enough survive to build a strong eco system.
This is not about astronomical valuations for those that succeed but about creating an environment where other businesses are allowed to fail without any stigma. These start-ups are creating Indian solutions for India. Those taking risks have to be rewarded and not penalised for life. Only then you'll create an ecosystem that produces best-in-class and sustainable businesses. While 3 bigs (Ambani, Adani, Tata) have finger in every pie, you do not want them to start dominating every aspect of Indian economy.Cyrano wrote:I think this will be a wrong approach for India and a case of blindly aping the west/US. Such high rates of failure which come after astronomical valuations are made possible in the US since the Fed has been printing money out of its musharraff and pumping it into the financial system with low interest rates. Cost of capital becoming frivolous will only encourage irresponsible conduct and seamsters. There will be a few genuine innovators who will succeed but 90% failure rate is ridiculous and a rotten stinky bubble that will burst when interest rates go up, its not a virtue.Pratyush wrote:Don't worry about startups failing.
Over 90% of the startups fail in the first year.
I used to worry about a lack of startups in India.
We need thousands of these. So that enough survive to build a strong eco system.
India's capital investment capacity and cost of capital is very different and we cannot afford such a model.
Creating an environment of incentives. You are looking at it the right way. Big 3 love the current environment. Do enough that the start ups create ideas and build initial prototypes and then fail. They swoop in and buy them up for cheap and control the IP. They infuse the capital and then win tenders, mass produce, and make $.JTull wrote:This is not about astronomical valuations for those that succeed but about creating an environment where other businesses are allowed to fail without any stigma. These start-ups are creating Indian solutions for India. Those taking risks have to be rewarded and not penalised for life. Only then you'll create an ecosystem that produces best-in-class and sustainable businesses. While 3 bigs (Ambani, Adani, Tata) have finger in every pie, you do not want them to start dominating every aspect of Indian economy.Cyrano wrote:
I think this will be a wrong approach for India and a case of blindly aping the west/US. Such high rates of failure which come after astronomical valuations are made possible in the US since the Fed has been printing money out of its musharraff and pumping it into the financial system with low interest rates. Cost of capital becoming frivolous will only encourage irresponsible conduct and seamsters. There will be a few genuine innovators who will succeed but 90% failure rate is ridiculous and a rotten stinky bubble that will burst when interest rates go up, its not a virtue.
India's capital investment capacity and cost of capital is very different and we cannot afford such a model.
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yensoy ji,yensoy wrote:^^^^ Maybe with birth/death registration, Aadhaar and mobile SIM data the whole census exercise is not so crucial these days?
2019 paperHow census-based delimitation for Lok Sabha seats could shake up politics & disadvantage south
Last population-based delimitation was done in 1971 & there's a freeze until 1st census after 2026. As debate intensifies, a 2019 paper sheds light on what such an exercise could mean.
+100 This is a business opportunity out there to be tapped. Just hope, people don't take easy route of mfg in chyna and selling here.Cyrano wrote:Yes ! IR should sell Vande Bharat toy train sets. HAL should sell Tejas miniature model kits, ISRO our rocket kits. And all types of hats, t-shirts and other merchandise. When our stars and influencers start wearing these to make style statements like NASA sweatshirts etc. we'd have arrived.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/in ... 068695.cmsLithium reserves traced in Rajasthan's Nagaur, capacity higher than J&K reserves
You're missing the point. Indian solutions for Indian problems. And biggest one is providing the bottom 100 crore population with basic needs of water, electricity, log, housing and most importantly employment, to get them upwardly mobile and aspirational. And then get them contributing more to national production.Cyrano wrote:I'm all for supporting startups that focus in core R&D like advanced materials, nano, computing, mfg, processes, bio tech, agri tech, electronics, power, space etc. Because established business houses in India are not sufficiently R&D focused for lots of historic reasons. My critique comes from touting gig economy, e-tailing ventures as some kind of great achievements and their billion $ valuations as proof that we have arrived. The Byjus, Swiggys and make up sellers are not totally useless, but are still sideshows. The real long term game is elsewhere.
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We have fake news; I discuss something far more dangerous - fake commentary by respected scholars (@AshokaMody, Raghuram Rajan) on important economic outcomes and policy; this needs to be called out; https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 892288.cms
India should keep quite. Unkill has a habit of exporting democracy and freedom in resource rich nations.chetak wrote:https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/in ... 068695.cmsLithium reserves traced in Rajasthan's Nagaur, capacity higher than J&K reserves
No Vimal Bhai! Unkill will not!!vimal wrote:India should keep quite. Unkill has a habit of exporting democracy and freedom in resource rich nations.chetak wrote:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/in ... 068695.cms
FYI: https://indianexpress.com/article/india ... n-8600784/VishnuS wrote:No Vimal Bhai! Unkill will not!!vimal wrote:
India should keep quite. Unkill has a habit of exporting democracy and freedom in resource rich nations.
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Indian government's e-commerce network ONDC expands into 236 cities -CEO http://reut.rs/3VTpf8S
The government launched the Open Network for Digital Commerce (ONDC) last year to give small businesses and retailers access to processes and technologies usually provided by big e-commerce platforms such as Amazon (AMZN.O) and Walmart (WMT.N).
The non-profit company's network currently displays products and services from all participating e-commerce platforms in search results across all apps on its network.
"ONDC is handholding small merchants while aiming to make e-commerce more inclusive and accessible for consumers," T. Koshy, CEO of the company told reporters.
The network is slowly and steadily recording an uptick in transactions, he said.
The government has said existing platforms are tightly controlled, keeping out many small players. It expects ONDC to increase competition and foster start-up innovation.
T. Koshy said the company was in talks with cab operators to launch operations in at least four cities, after successfully launching mobility operations in two cities in South India.
More than 55,000 taxi cab owners have already joined the network, and consumers were using it for about 35,000 rides a day, he said.
The platform has helped cab owners to provide services while saving on hefty commissions paid to other platforms and offer lower rates to passengers, said Shaikh Salauddin, head of Telengana Four Wheeler Drivers Association, and a taxi driver.
"The ONDC move has helped to promote fair competition in the e-commerce and helping consumers and small players."
ONDC aims to raise e-commerce penetration in the next two years to 25% of India's consumer purchases, from nearly 8% now, in a country of 1.4 billion people.
On Tuesday, the government said the state-run Indian postal service, which has a network of nearly 160,000 post offices, will also join the ONDC network to provide logistics services to small traders across the country.
+1 we gave offers to fresher engineers who were doing menial o&m type work at 12k per month, an upgrade to a site engineer position with more growth at 20k per month. We deployed this chap to kolkatta and he basically took a train back home same day citing some issue of dangerous neighborhood and Non availability of Veg food etc decamped with 3 days advance perdiems and allowances. We cut a very sorry figure to our clients.yensoy wrote:India job sob story is that there are no jobs. The reality is that there are huge number of jobs available as long as one is willing to work for it, and relocate to the place of the job (which could very well be a construction site). If you want to sit in your own village and get a government job, sorry that just isn't happening. Government jobs can't scale up and employ everybody in the country.
Forgive me if I'm off the mark, but isn't 20k per month extremely low, comparable or even less than what a taxi driver would earn? I have heard various theories such as how the caste system is responsible for people not wanting to work in proper engineering jobs, and what you've written about "youth's hunger" and the lack of their desire to excel. Ultimately, salary and other economic factors seem to be bigger considerations, coupled with the education system that aims at quantity instead of quality. Hiring and retaining engineering talent needs better salaries and initial training that few employers are willing to invest in.tandav wrote: ... an upgrade to a site engineer position with more growth at 20k per month. We deployed this chap to kolkatta and he basically took a train back home same day citing some issue of dangerous neighborhood and Non availability of Veg food etc decamped with 3 days advance perdiems and allowances. We cut a very sorry figure to our clients.
we did think so when Elon started following Modiji on twitter !!VinodTK wrote:Tesla seems ready to open a factory in India
I am not a Musk fanboy, far from that, but did Musk actually refer to Soros' background or is this a figment of WaPo's imagination? No doubt Soros deserves to be ideologically destroyed but one doesn't need to get antisemitic to do that.vijayk wrote:Elon's take on SoreAss ...
He is an evil out to destroy The civilization means ... he knows Modi is savior of the world
Lots of push back...I think GoI is not able to articulate clearly why another tax (albeit refundable) is needed...These kind of charges affect middle class mainly and I see on SM that middle class are fed up & upset for being taken for granted...dsreedhar wrote:Whats up with the TCS for credit card payments outside India. There is a pushback in social media.
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