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The Southern Jihad

WARNING: Contains graphic photos of two dead bodies right up front - one that of Velliappan and one that of Ramesh. There are other black-white photos of dead bodies too. If you happen to scroll, there are other gruesome photos.

Why is Palani Baba dressed up like that?

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Good documentation by ARAVINDAN NEELAKANDAN.

Is the Islamism thread only for "abroad" connection?
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SwamyG, Very good article.

Yes unfortunately we conceived the Islamism thread for non Indian shenanigans.

This is the right thread.
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There was a you-tube video regarding bikers' stunts during shab-e-barat. Delhi Police was found to be mute spectators. Yesterday, some guy "Pandey" was shot dead for bike stunt by Dilli police. So there were instructions to come down with a heavy hand. Secular onlee.
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ramana wrote:SwamyG, Very good article.

Yes unfortunately we conceived the Islamism thread for non Indian shenanigans.

This is the right thread.
Bone chilling read!!!

We really seem to be a lot worse off than i was even imagining! I had thought that Desh would be able to sustain the upcoming Jihadi onslaught for another 2 decades atleast but things look very very grim.

If this is the situation in the south, one can imagine the condition in the North and East!
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SwamyG wrote:The Southern Jihad
We do have small mercies shown once in a while. The current INC regime at Karnataka also have not shown any leniency on Shri. Abdul Nassar Maudhani-ji. The public prosecutor have produced enough and more evidence to show that Maudhani is not really sick as he portrays himself. Using video surveillance footage the prosecution proved that Maudhani could move around, as well as read. There was a group of Mallu "seculars" who had visited the current Home Minister to help out Maudhani. And this is the end result :lol:. On this fellow's bail plea the prosecution clearly articulated that it is tough to bring back Maudhani from his strong hold in Kerala. To arrest him the Karnataka Police had to camp there for days together and pressurize K.P to help them out.
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And the IB gets some more tough love from INC:
Sadiq Jamal encounter in Gujarat: CBI to question ex-IB officer
The probe into the alleged fake encounter case of Sadiq Jamal of 2003 in Gujarat will enter yet another phase with the CBI all set to question former Special Director of Intelligence Bureau Sudhir Kumar in connection with the case. Highly-placed sources in the agency said that Kumar, a 1968 batch IPS officer, would be called for questioning in the case and understanding the sequence of the events that led to the encounter.

The input given by Kumar was the alleged reason behind the killing of Jamal, a resident of Bhavnagar city, by a team of Gujarat crime branch in an encounter near Galaxy Cinema on the outskirts of Ahmedabad on January 13, 2003. Kumar, who retired as member of Central Vigilance Commission, was posted as Special Director of Intelligence Bureau when this incident took place.
The sources did not rule out the possibility of questioning of the then Joint Director of IB’s operational cell who later become the head of the organisation. They said role of Kumar, who was handling Western Zone in the Intelligence Bureau at the agency headquarters, was under scanner of the agency for the alert that Jamal was a terrorist on a mission to eliminate VIPs in Gujarat.

The CBI has already questioned a Maharashtra cadre officer of the rank of Joint Secretary twice and would now be summoning Sudhir Kumar and Rajendra Kumar. Jamal’s brother Shabir had sought further investigation into the alleged role played by then Joint Director (IB) Rajendra Kumar, former state Minister of State (MoS) for Home and the Chief Minister in the encounter.
n intelligence report, dated January 6, 2003, of Subsidiary Intelligence Bureau (SIB), Mumbai is also under scanner of the agency in which it was allegedly claimed that Sadiq Jamal was a member of Dawood Ibrahim gang and had arrived to kill saffron party leaders to avenge 2002 post-Godhra riots in Gujarat. In this case, CBI has arrested, apart from ex-Mumbai scribe Ketan Tirodkar, eight Gujarat policemen, including Tarun Barot and J G Parmar who were also arraigned as accused in the 2004 Ishrat encounter case and three others.
This govt has completely broken the back of all counter-terror operations in this country.

Wonder if i am witness to a Gujral-type self-destruct phase, only this time it relates to internal security rather than RAW ops in TSP.
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Wonder if i am witness to a Gujral-type self-destruct phase, only this time it relates to internal security rather than RAW ops in TSP.
You're right. The very front line resistance against Terror modules is being attacked by proxy. This as one notices is not about evolving mechanisms to reduce 'encounter' killings but targeting the very core basis on which preventive measures can be put in place to stall terrorist activities. The core sometimes involves field officers receiving tip offs from various sources, some even unidentified. Measuring the genuineness of particular inputs and sources and preventable action and mechanisms based on them. Putting such records on papers and files to co-relate with incidents in past or future will be put in jeopardy in this manner next.
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SwamyG wrote:The Southern Jihad
The DGP of TN, Ramanujam, gave a long press statement claiming how they have nabbed suspects in each of the earlier cases etc. There are two facts that he omitted to say. The most important was that the TN Police bungled big time when they approached these cases as individual cases rather than as a collective conspiracy. They should have woken up after a few incidents and dug deeper to unravel the conspiracy. They failed to do so and woke up only after the very latest, very high-profile murder. Even then, they were floating theories, flying kites whether there could be some 'land deal' etc behind this episode. Very disgusting and the fair name of TN Police has been considerably spoiled in the bargain. The second was that none of these cases has so far resulted in conviction, AFAIK. It is too early therefore to trumpet success because more often than not cases get thrown out for various reasons.
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Abhi_G wrote:There was a you-tube video regarding bikers' stunts during shab-e-barat. Delhi Police was found to be mute spectators. Yesterday, some guy "Pandey" was shot dead for bike stunt by Dilli police. So there were instructions to come down with a heavy hand. Secular onlee.
Talking of bikers, this seems to be a recurring pattern with Muslim gangs. See following excerpt from the "The Southern Jihad" article posted here:
An early morning of November 1997 saw an altercation with the bike riding Al-Ummah youths and a police man. This was followed by Al-Ummah youths declaring that they would extract revenge. Then the threat was made real by a public execution of a police constable, Mr. Selvaraj. To the shocked media and public the images of the wives of policemen demanding security for their husbands clearly showed the pathetic condition to which law and order had been reduced. Two days after the brutal execution of constable Selvaraj, Tamil Nadu Chief Minister Karunanidhi came out with an extraordinarily callous statement that the police men should not have harassed two wheeler youths just for the sake of statistics.
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SSridhar: I am appalled by the power-hungry "I will sleep with the enemy" approach that JJ has taken towards the TMMK. In her previous stint, she had repealed the anti-conversion laws for Christian votes.

It seems like the choices for Hindus in TN is between the bad (JJ) and the worst (Dr. Artiste)

As I said earlier in the thread, if Muslim gangs can punch so much above their weight in TN, I shudder to think what the situation is in UP. Or maybe the politicians know something we dont (given their nose is closer to the ground) - its possible that the demographics in TN (& India in general) has tipped over in favor of Muslims so much that any party has to cozy up to the jihadists in order to survive.

If we look at "voting blocks" (like Vanniyar vote, Yadav vote, Jat vote etc) across India or even within certain states, the Muslim vote might be the single largest block.
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harbans wrote:
Wonder if i am witness to a Gujral-type self-destruct phase, only this time it relates to internal security rather than RAW ops in TSP.
You're right. The very front line resistance against Terror modules is being attacked by proxy. This as one notices is not about evolving mechanisms to reduce 'encounter' killings but targeting the very core basis on which preventive measures can be put in place to stall terrorist activities. The core sometimes involves field officers receiving tip offs from various sources, some even unidentified. Measuring the genuineness of particular inputs and sources and preventable action and mechanisms based on them. Putting such records on papers and files to co-relate with incidents in past or future will be put in jeopardy in this manner next.
I have a feeling that IB's research reached to the root of Indian Muj, which the termite party. Perhaps that is the reason why IB is being curtailed.
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The NIA was likely created because Congress couldnt penetrate/control IB like they were able to do with CBI. So, IB is being cut down to size till they become pliant

It might be the turn of RAW to be compromised next
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Prem Kumar wrote:SSridhar: I am appalled by the power-hungry "I will sleep with the enemy" approach that JJ has taken towards the TMMK. In her previous stint, she had repealed the anti-conversion laws for Christian votes.

It seems like the choices for Hindus in TN is between the bad (JJ) and the worst (Dr. Artiste)
I think she let TMMK and the goons run the protests during the Viswaroopam release. She used them to get back at Kamal. She is a hard core eccentric, and will squish people like bugs. If she could not squish the TMMK goons, either they are well above her or she just used them to get her way. DMK has played the same card too.

I have been saying it for some time in BRF, when MuKa dies, Islamism will start rearing its heads in TN even more. The Southern most parts of KL and TN have lots of people connection, and pretty soon that region will be out of control.
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Expect thundering silence from India's liberal chatterati !
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Prem Kumar wrote:SSridhar: I am appalled by the power-hungry "I will sleep with the enemy" approach that JJ has taken towards the TMMK. In her previous stint, she had repealed the anti-conversion laws for Christian votes.

It seems like the choices for Hindus in TN is between the bad (JJ) and the worst (Dr. Artiste)

As I said earlier in the thread, if Muslim gangs can punch so much above their weight in TN, I shudder to think what the situation is in UP. Or maybe the politicians know something we dont (given their nose is closer to the ground) - its possible that the demographics in TN (& India in general) has tipped over in favor of Muslims so much that any party has to cozy up to the jihadists in order to survive.

If we look at "voting blocks" (like Vanniyar vote, Yadav vote, Jat vote etc) across India or even within certain states, the Muslim vote might be the single largest block.
Prem Kumar, you are right about the 'vote bank' requirements. Ms. JJ has been portrayed as anti-minority, especially anti-Muslims by Muthuvel Karunanidhi. She was forced to have an electoral alliance with the dangerous TMMK (Tamilnadu Muslim Munnetra Kazhagam) in order to prove her 'secularism'. After the TMMK's violent protests earlier this year when it 'took over a stretch of the Mount Road' for 3 days, the TMMK has now joined the DMK side. It was a grave mistake on the part of Ms. JJ to have allowed such a free hand to the Islamist TMMK or to have allied with them in the first place.

I do not believe that, as of now, the Muslim Vote in TN can make or mar a party's chances. Yet, no political party can afford to lose a large chunk of the voters who always vote 'en bloc'. Keeping Muslims on their side also helps a political party to proclaim their 'secularism' and DMK goes one step ahead to claim that they are the 'protectors' of the minorities in TN from the likes of Ms. JJ.

Your fear about the jihadists in southern and western districts of TN is justified. There are places in Tirunelveli and Coimbatore where police fear to enter. Linkages between TN & Kerala-based jihadists have existed for a long time. Maudany was behind the Coimbatore bomb blasts along with TN jihadists. The recent Bangalore blast guys were arrested from southern TN. Delhi bomb blast IM jihadists were arrested in Tambaram, Chennai. Al Ummah today is a branch of the IM and is a serious terrorist organization in TN. Al Ummah, MMK and Manitha Neethi Pasarai (offshoot of SIMI) are Pakistan inspired tanzeems and are very active in TN.

83 Al Ummah activists who planted bombs when Advani visited Coimbatore in 1993 were released in 2007. Another 9, including a young (17 years at that time) suicide bomber were released by Muthuvel Karunanidhi in c. 2009 prematurely. Extremism has been growing since then.

Chennai has become a huge centre for circulation of FICN sent by the ISI through Bangladesh and Kolkatta.
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Prem Kumar wrote:Then the threat was made real by a public execution of a police constable, Mr. Selvaraj
My understanding is that Mr. Selvaraj was stabbed to death. Murder for sure, but not any thing like an "execution". And Coimbatore finest did fall heavily on the Jehadis after that. I dont think the murder of the police man actually stopped Coimbatore Police from hammering the Jehadis. Jehadis like Basha etc. were picked up. Old pal Maudhani also got picked up and stayed in the prison for 9 years. More than the Jehadis it may be the pathetic attitude of Dr. Artiste which may have demoralised the police.
SSridhar wrote:Chennai has become a huge centre for circulation of FICN sent by the ISI through Bangladesh and Kolkatta.
For this to stop there has to be heavy monitoring of migrant labour presumably coming from West Bengal. Most of these fellows are illegal immigrants from BD. Kerala Police had started an initiative to keep track of these folks. They had to register at the local PS with ID Proofs etc. Some onus was also put on employers who employ such people (mainly hotels, construction companies etc.). But dont think the original planned momentum is there for such a registration drive.
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kish wrote:
SSridhar wrote:Huge haul of gelatine seized in Tirunelveli - The Hindu

This case is different from the normal cases of seizure of geletine sticks held in stock illegally by quarry operators and explosives distributors. I suspect that this is a fall-out of the investigation following a spate of killings of BJP and Hindu outfits in TN.
Sridhar sir, Your prediction is right. It is indeed follow-up investigation of BJP & Hindu munnai cadres murder. Chindu will hide the identity of the minority and publish it, if its from majority community. Here is another link giving the identity of terrorists.

Five persons arrested with explosives in Tirunelveli
Now, more information is tumbling out. Nellai Trio Behind Vellore Killing ?
The Special Investigation Division (SID) personnel suspect that the some of the accused in the Advani pipe bomb and Bangalore bomb blasts cases might be involved in the murder of Vellaiyappan, Hindu Munnani state secretary that happened in Vellore last month.

The SID sleuths, who were here on Monday to interrogate the five persons arrested in Melapalayam on Saturday night, told Express that ‘Police’ Fakrudeen, Bilal Malick, the two key accused in the pipe bomb case and Panna Ismail, the prime accused in the Bangalore blasts case, had allegedly made frequent visits to Vellore prior to the murder of Vellaiyappn during the first week of July.

“When we showed the photographs of ‘Police’ Fakrudeen and Bilal Malick to the eye witnesses of the Vellore murder, they confirmed that the duo were present near the crime scene in Vellore,” the personnel claimed.

The intelligence wing officials also said that the (Closed Circuit Television)CCTV camera footages gathered from various places also showed that Panna Ismail was moving in Vellore nearly for a month.

Fakrudeen, along with his team members, who have been operating from underground, had been allegedly targeting Hindu outfit leaders for their hate speech against the Islam.

“Mohammed Hanifa alias Tenkasi Hanifa, one of the accused in Advani pipe bomb case, who was arrested recently, was also found carrying a picture of Bhaskaran, the district secretary of the Dindigul unit of the RSS,” said police sources.
It is very clear that the TN Police were not alert after the initial few incidents.
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Sachin wrote:
SSridhar wrote:Chennai has become a huge centre for circulation of FICN sent by the ISI through Bangladesh and Kolkatta.
For this to stop there has to be heavy monitoring of migrant labour presumably coming from West Bengal. Most of these fellows are illegal immigrants from BD. Kerala Police had started an initiative to keep track of these folks. They had to register at the local PS with ID Proofs etc. Some onus was also put on employers who employ such people (mainly hotels, construction companies etc.). But dont think the original planned momentum is there for such a registration drive.
Actually there is an Inter-state migrant labour registration law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate ... n_Act_1979 . Implementation of an existing law would reduce a lot of criminal activities -labour exploitation, human trafficking, drug-trafficking, inter-state criminal gangs, etc.

For all MNS-RT faults, he is the only person (in my knowledge) who has championed implementation of this law to add a deterrent to criminals, using escaping to other states in the guise of migrant labour. It was from one of his interviews that I actually came to know about this law.
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More about Jihadi terrorism in TN in today's NitiCentral headlines:

Jihad virus spreads in Tamil Nadu

Unless Hindu Munnani, RSS etc form self-defense groups and fight fire with fire, I dont see any way these Muslim organizations will be put in their place. An eye for an eye is what is needed. Relying exclusively on the government/police is like asking to get picked apart one by one.

Yes, the liberal media will talk about "Hindu terror". But who gives a flying f@#&.

Btw, I am impressed by the momentum Niticentral has gained in a short span of time. I visit it every day these days.
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SSridhar wrote: 83 Al Ummah activists who planted bombs when Advani visited Coimbatore in 1993 were released in 2007. Another 9, including a young (17 years at that time) suicide bomber were released by Muthuvel Karunanidhi in c. 2009 prematurely.
And we wonder why police resort to encounter killings. As far as jihadis are concerned, the police should treat them like a Paki crossing the LOC. No arrest - straight to jannat.

Coming to demographics: every time I visit Chennai, I see a growing Muslim presence in the city. And many wealthy types too. T. Nagar area is flooded with bukha-clad women buying loads of stuff at Pothys, Kumaran etc in the middle of a working day. Dont know where all the money is coming from
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^ Same with Karnataka. While driving to Hampi & Bandipur, on two different instances, I noticed many new mosques, right in your face on the highway. A few churches but too many mosques. Sometimes I felt I was driving through Pakistan. I clicked a few pictures too, seems to have lost them somehow. Wonder where the money is coming from & who is financing the construction. Even in Bangalore, one notices increased number of skullcaps & burqas. The demographics are surely turning into their favor.
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Prem Kumar wrote:Coming to demographics: every time I visit Chennai, I see a growing Muslim presence in the city. And many wealthy types too. T. Nagar area is flooded with bukha-clad women buying loads of stuff at Pothys, Kumaran etc in the middle of a working day. Dont know where all the money is coming from
T' Nagar is at least a shopping area and people from outside Chennai come there in droves. But, Adyar area has so many mosques, within the last two or three years suddenly. At 5 AM, I hear azaan from at least three mosques these days.
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Shyte man. Dont tell me. Its depressing. Adyar is where I went to school
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^ shyte is true. I too attended middle school in Adayar. Shocking. Besant nagar must be similarly troubled then....
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Batala house perpetrator got life for shooting the police. Judge didn't find rarest of rare situation. Gives wrong message.
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Folks watch this all:
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Changragupta wrote:The demographics are surely turning into their favor.
Personally I feel an overall demographic superiority (i.e total no of minority community actually goes over the majority community) would take time to be achieved. But what is more alarming is the belligerence coming in, with the existing numbers itself. The Jehadis are allowed to punch above their weights, because it may allow a few "secular" elements can win some short term goals (elections etc.). If push comes to shove the Jehadis will lose out on a street by street battle. But the worrisome factor is the folks who are supposed to ensure a peaceful society (mainly the police) being not allowed to their duty. To be very honest I would be more worried about the Jehadi enabler elements more than the Jehadis themselves.
ramana wrote: Judge didn't find rarest of rare situation. Gives wrong message.
Hmm.. may be death of police officers do not fit the "rarest of rare" condition. And to be fair enough, there has been cases where police men have been killed by criminals. The "rarest of rare" part may be the involvement of terrorism, but dont know if the law books allow death penalty there. But if this chap is forced to spend most of his life in prison, and the prison folks ensure that he gets a "good treatment" every now and then, it is okay I feel.
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ramana wrote:Batala house perpetrator got life for shooting the police. Judge didn't find rarest of rare situation. Gives wrong message.
He will daily get his just dessert in Jail before he ever hope to see the Hoor's Khajoor.
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^^^^
Dont think so. He will be released post re trial. By the higher court's. Just as Binayak Sen was.
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NTERIM REPORT ON JIHADI KILLINGS IN TAMIL NADU - APRIL 2006-JULY 2013

http://vsrc.in/index.php/articles/2013- ... -2013.html
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Cold Blooded murder of Hindus inside a temple is reported as "communal clash" by the Sickular Paid Media.

While...

This is the true story.

On Friday July 26, 2013, Many Hindus were injured and 2 people were killed, including a Hindu women who died when Muslim mobs rioted on late Friday. Friday is the day that Muslims hold congregational prayer called Jumu’ah, usually preceded by sermons.

The violent clashes occurred in the Nagla Mal area of Meerut, a city within the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh (UP, and is a few hours away from the capital New Delhi. It has been reported that the violence began when groups of local Muslims were upset that a Hindu temple was playing Hindu devotional songs (bhajans) and forced the loudspeaker to be shutoff while beating a few Hindu men in the temple. Police tried to control the violent mob and is looking for the rioters involved. The governing party of Uttar Pradesh during these riots is the Samajwadi party.

Religious violence and riots are not new to Uttar Pradesh and India during the holy Islamic month of Ramadan as it is a sensitive month for many in the Muslim community . In the past few years there have been similar cases where Muslim mobs have vandalized Hindu temples and injured Hindus due to hearing Hindu religious songs on route to a Mosque or if a religious procession is passing a Hindu temple that is playing music.

A few years prior, a major clash in Aligarh, Uttar Pradesh took place between Hindus and Muslims. The rioting started on night of 5 April when according to some people, members of the Muslim community removed the decorations on a Hindu temple (it was the Hindu festival of Ram Navami) while another version as reported by some media suggests that riots started after some Muslims objected to the overnight celebration of Ram Navami.
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^ In order to protect Secularism, Hindus in India must stop all their activities during the month of Ramzan and Fridays moving forward. While at it add Sundays, X-mas and also Jewish days of sabbath. Perhaps Hindus must follow Islamic traditions of fasting the month of Ramzan. It will save some money for INC to loot from Food Security Bill.

Aaak thoo on Secularism.
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RamaY wrote:^ In order to protect Secularism, Hindus in India must stop all their activities during the month of Ramzan and Fridays moving forward. While at it add Sundays, X-mas and also Jewish days of sabbath. Perhaps Hindus must follow Islamic traditions of fasting the month of Ramzan. It will save some money for INC to loot from Food Security Bill.

Aaak thoo on Secularism.

This is the shortcoming in the secualr state. Not allowing celebration of Jewish Sabbath in India in states that have Jewish presence. Eg Maharastra, Kerala etc.

Once its done the secular state will become communal.


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in UP , IAS in news Durga Shakti was suspended for razing wall of mosque which was a big encroachment, S Party proved secular credentials by suspending her
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http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/up-g ... ml#comment

UP govt to charge sheet Durga for demolishing mosque wall
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Hindu:

Why Muslims should confornt Ind Muj

So Chindu is turning saffron? Or as elections loom they want to pretend to be nationalists?
The Indian Mujahideen are for real, and investigators have more evidence about them than they would have us believe
There is an overwhelming body of evidence available with Indian investigative agencies to show that between 2003 and 2008, a group of Muslim extremists who called themselves Indian Mujahideen (IM) went about bombing temples, trains and marketplaces, even as the police across India kept implicating dozens of innocent Muslims in these incidents.

Thirteen Muslim youth, mostly from the Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI), were falsely implicated in the 2006 Mumbai train blasts. About half-a-dozen SIMI activists were implicated in the Jaipur blasts of 2008. More than a dozen were framed in a series of blasts that rocked cities and towns in Uttar Pradesh (U.P.) between 2005 and 2008. The material evidence available with investigative agencies now, to which I have access, indicates that all these blasts were carried out by the IM. But instead of accepting the mistakes made in the past and seeking out the real culprits, they have brushed this new evidence under the carpet and kept persisting with cases they know are bogus.

Much to answer

IM suspects arrested post-September 2008 were booked only in those cases that were still not “solved,” such as the 2008 Delhi and Ahmedabad blasts and 2007 ‘Gokul Chat’ Blast in Hyderabad. The evidence of their involvement in old bomb blasts was never brought to the notice of any court. Why? Doing so would have meant, one, that different State agencies between 2003 and 2008 were framing innocent Muslims while the IM was busy bombing one city after another. Two, it would have meant taking action against officers who made wrong arrests and thus virtually gave the IM a free reign to unleash mayhem. Three, correcting their errors would entail releasing innocent Muslims languishing in jails from Mumbai to U.P. to Rajasthan to Delhi. That would have opened a Pandora’s box. So-called secular governments from Maharashtra to U.P. would have had a lot to answer to the Muslim community, besides the people in general.

Neither our agencies nor our politicians have had the courage or will to make amends. By mixing fact with fiction, the Indian state has created a situation where we do not know who is guilty and who is innocent. It has created a situation where for some, the Sadhvi Pragyas and Assemanands are innocent while for others, the Atif Ameens and Chhota Sajids are innocent. It has created a situation where the real accused would never have to answer for killing dozens of innocent civilians. On the other hand, those who are completely innocent may be sent to the gallows.

This is not merely vote bank politics. It is one of the fiercest assaults on the idea of justice. It is a mockery of our criminal justice system and the rule of law that while innocent Muslims wrongly framed are denied justice, those who lost their near and dear ones in bomb blasts will never get to know the real culprits. It is important that the information available with the investigating agencies about the Indian Mujahideen comes out into the public realm. Besides being a threat to internal security, the IM pose a grave danger to the Indian Muslim community. This information will assist the Muslim leadership to confront the challenge within the community. Indeed, they must take the lead in demanding the full truth about the IM, for this can help them change the discourse within the community. Instead of merely proclaiming the innocence of every Muslim who is arrested, or speaking up for the rights of innocent Muslims, they can demand justice for all.

After 2002

The interrogation reports reveal that elements in Pakistan have been bankrolling the IM, that they have been providing training, explosives and other logistics without which an entity like the IM would have found it difficult to function. But it is also true that they have had willing allies in a handful of Indian Muslim youth fired by the misplaced idea of jihad and retributive justice.

About a dozen IM suspects arrested since September 2008 have given the anti-terror agencies a chilling account of a single, integral terror plot that was set into motion sometime in 2001 and which gained momentum after the 2002 riots.

It started with five young men: Sadiq Shaikh from Azamgarh; his distant relative from Hyderabad, Mujahid Salim (his father Moulana Abdul Aleem Islahi is known for his provocative writings on the Babri Masjid and Islamic Jihad); the brothers Amir Raza Khan and Asif Raza Khan from Kolkata, and Mohd Riaz Shahabandari, also known as Riaz Bhatkal of Bhatkal in Karnataka.

The first successful bomb blast was carried out when Atif Ameen and Sadiq Shaikh planted a bomb on Shramjeevi Express that exploded near Jaunpur railway station. By now, the group had acquired expertise in assembling bombs, timers and explosives. Each member was trained in a specific job. The first big strike the group carried out was in Sarojini Nagar Market in Delhi on the eve of Diwali in 2005. They followed this up with the Sankatmochan blasts and the Mumbai train blasts in 2006. It was sometime in 2007 that the group decided to call themselves Indian Mujahideen and started sending mails either before or immediately after each terror strike.

All this while, the Indian police kept shooting in the dark. To show some results they went after members of organisations like SIMI.

There is a clear and urgent need to reinvestigate and retry all terror attacks that occurred between years 2003 to 2008.

Interrogation reports

During my year long research, I collected dozens of classified interrogation reports from different terror agencies. These reports have been prepared by different officers at different times and places but are remarkably consistent in their material particulars. Unlike confessions, which are of doubtful utility because they often involve coercion, interrogation reports are never intended to be made public or produced before any court. Kept confidential till date, the reports link the IM to the 7/11 Mumbai train blasts, the 2006 Varanasi Sankatmochan Mandir blast, the 2007 court blasts in U.P., the Gorakhpur triple blasts and the Jaipur blasts. But in all these cases it is either the members of SIMI or Ahle Hadith with absolutely no connection with IM who are facing trial. These cases have been built on the strength of tutored witnesses, coerced confessions and fake recoveries. Some of the material being peddled before the courts is so farcical that an effective and competent judiciary should have thrown them out at the threshold itself, and public prosecutors should have refused to press charges in court. But if the judiciary is supposed to be the biggest check on police excesses, custodial torture and bogus prosecutions, then at least in terror cases involving Muslims, this system of checks and balances has completely collapsed.

Framed

The material shows that U.P. resident Khalid Mujahid, who recently died in judicial custody, was not involved in the court bomb blasts for which he spent more than six years in jail. It shows Waliullah, who is serving a 10-year sentence in a U.P. jail, has nothing to do with the Sankatmochan Mandir blast. It shows that 13 Muslims, some of whom are doctors and engineers, facing trial for the 7/11 Mumbai blasts for the past eight years, are actually innocent.

All this material needs to be adjudicated through a fair and credible judicial process that can inspire the confidence of both the majority and minority communities. I have produced these documents before the Bombay and Allahabad High Courts through public interest litigations. The real culprits need to be given exemplary punishment. And the demand for reinvestigation should come, besides others, from the Muslim community itself. This will help Muslim discourse move from minority rights to justice for all.

(Ashish Khetan is the founder of the investigative news website gulail.com)
if Doggy Singh is charged for aiding an abetting terrorists this whole thing will come down.
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^^ Ramana ji,
That is Grade 1 psy ops job dont get fooled by it.

visit the website of the author to confirm his mindset http://gulail.com/

The author gets endorsed by one 'Sanjeev Bhatt IPS' in one of the comments.
His paean
Sanjiv Bhatt IPS June 6, 2013 at 1:41 pm
When most of us let the fire within us go out, spark by irreplaceable spark, in the hopeless swamps of the not-quite, the not-yet, and the not-at-all. When most of us let the hero in our soul perish in lonely frustration for the ideals we claimed to support yet never dared to stand-up for…Ashish Khetan has quit a lucrative job with a leading News Channel and has founded a portal dedicated to meaningful and socially relevant journalism. This is an inspiration to all of us. This is one more ray of hope that the world we desire can be achieved. It exists.. it is real.. it is possible.. it is ours.. only if we dare to strive for it.
One comes across other names in circulation in the commentators list.

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ramana,

That article in a nutshell. "The indian police are imbeciles. They catch a random muslim for terror attacks. They should all be released."

I will bet that just as today we have seen SIMI as an innocent victim, tomorrow it will be IM and IM will be replaced some XYZ. If XYZ is hindu all the more glory.
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IAS Durga Shakti Nagpal suspended for a demolition that never was.

IAS officer Durga Shakti Nagpal, who took on the powerful sand mafia in Noida, was hurriedly suspended for demolishing the wall of a religious structure, which was dubbed a rash act that could have led to riots. But the 28-year-old sub-divisional magistrate of Gautam Budh Nagar never demolished the wall of any religious structure, according to reports the DM has submitted to the UP government.

The report says Nagpal was asked to visit Kadalpur village, where illegal construction activities were being carried out on government land, and settle the matter amicably. The report suggests it was unclear what religious site it was, since the construction had only just begun. Nagpal and other officers were deputed to visit the village after the administration learnt of the encroachment. The residents of the village were then asked to either seek permission for the construction of a religious structure, as per the governing rules, or dismantle the illegally constructed parts.

Kadalpur village residents chose to dismantle the illegal construction of their own volition. No JCB or other heavy machinery was ever pressed into service to demolish any wall, as the government has suggested. The report, with inputs from the district police as well as other administrative officers, also says there was no communal tension or the possibility of any clashes between religious communities.

What then forced the state government to make such haste in taking disciplinary action against a junior civil servant, even resorting to issuing suspension orders at 1.27 on Sunday morning?

Sources in the government said a senior Samajwadi Party Lok Sabha aspirant controls the bulk of the sand mining activities in GB Nagar. When several complaints of dredging from the Yamuna and Hindon rivers reached the chief minister's office in Lucknow, the GB Nagar district administration was asked to curtail the illegal activities. Nagpal, only three years into the IAS, followed the order in letter and spirit.

Disregarding political affiliations, she cracked down on the sand mafia, seizing trucks, slapping fines and lodging FIRs against errant persons. The Samajwadi Party's aspiring parliamentarian was among the aggrieved parties, his business hit by the crackdown. Sources said his repeated attempts to have Nagpal transferred failed, and when the Kadalpur issue came along, it served as an opportune moment to settle scores. The state government, unwilling to invite the ire of the minority community, not only said the villagers should be permitted to continue construction, it also suspended the officer for "inflaming communal tensions" and dismissed the episode as an "administrative exercise".

Now, despite chief minister Akhilesh Yadav's promise of a rethink on Nagpal's suspension, no decision has been taken. Speaking to TOI, principal secretary, UP's department of appointments, Rajiv Kumar, said, "As an officer of the UP government, Nagpal's reinstatement is in the hands of the state government, as the rightful disciplinary authority. As per the procedure, the government has up to 45 days in which to chargesheet her. In this case, the process may be expedited. It is the state government's decision."
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