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Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 12 Mar 2024 22:36
by Manish_P
disha wrote: ↑12 Mar 2024 22:02
Aiyo Saar! Been watching west and bakistan since several decades. An oldie like you. Getting India contained was another tangible benefit.
...
Disha ji, Superpower remain so not just because they defeat current enemies but also because they identify and actively suppress future claimants.. India will reach the position in some time (come in direct crosshair of uncle).
Pakistan will be kept on the ventilator till then. We have to try and amputate it before that.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 13 Mar 2024 05:06
by A_Gupta
I'm being very crass here, but the main purpose of CPEC is for India to have some targets to bomb in Pakistan in case of a war.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 13 Mar 2024 19:32
by Manish_P
Bakistanis taking cost-cutting to an entirely new level!
Yawn -
Video of half-printed currency notes triggers outrage on social media
The video surfaced on social media depicts a man calling himself the manager of the Model Colony branch of the National Bank of Pakistan (NBP). He can be seen holding two Rs 1,000 currency notes which are blank from the backside.
“I have no idea how many bundles have been dispatched already. These were returned by a customer and that is how we got to know about it,” he said. Then he proceeded to zoom in on a table where another bank employee sat, inspecting currency notes in a bundle. As the worker flipped through, one note after the fourth turned out blank on the back. “Every packet has at least two notes like this,” the manager said in the video.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 13 Mar 2024 19:56
by madhu
Manish_P wrote: ↑13 Mar 2024 19:32
Bakistanis taking cost-cutting to an entirely new level!
no bakistan had mastered printing Indian currency so much that they forgot how to print there own currency.

Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 16 Mar 2024 22:23
by drnayar
https://theprint.in/defence/pakistan-na ... a/2003359/
Away from the spotlight and fanfare of military inductions, the Pakistan Navy has gone ahead and acquired its first spy ship — PNS Rizwan — courtesy China.
The spy ship is an answer to India’s INS Dhruv, which was inducted into the Navy in 2021 with capabilities to track satellite and ballistic nuclear missiles — both for its own testing and for others.
source :
https://theprint.in/defence/pakistan-na ... a/2003359/
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 17 Mar 2024 04:00
by hgupta
Time to do some sinking.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 17 Mar 2024 15:26
by S_Madhukar
So the new tactic is to paint ShiShiPee colours and sail to Bakistan and get a green paint. How nice wonder this will be an active strategy in conflict too ? Must give lizards a warning and harass these guys in the waters… hope while we are busy combating pirates certain cargo isn’t reaching Bakis
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 18 Mar 2024 01:30
by RCase
Maybe it is time for the Taliban to demonstrate their capability on naval assets, just as they did on air force assets.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 18 Mar 2024 01:37
by RCase
Manish_P wrote: ↑13 Mar 2024 19:32
Bakistanis taking cost-cutting to an entirely new level!
As the worker flipped through, one note after the fourth turned out blank on the back.
Mashallah! Bakistan has made progress! We had only heard of Mr. 10%. There is now a new Mr. 25% who has pocketed one in four notes and put in blanks!
Bakistanis are No. 1 in doing do-numberi things.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 27 Mar 2024 08:22
by Manish_P
Just missed out on achieving a very halal 786 % growth but A-o-A for next time inshallah!
Yawn -
Govt urged to protect auto industry
PAMA’s Khan says import of used vehicles has increased by staggering 641 % this year
According to import data, the influx of used vehicles has soared to 25,098 units, marking a staggering 641% increase during the first eight months of the current fiscal year compared to around 3,386 units imported in the same period last year.
Murtaza Mandviwala, a leading auto expert, dealer, and author of ‘Steering The Pakistani Wheel’, suggested reducing import duties on auto parts, opening trade with India to access cheaper components, and stopping the misuse of used car imports to address the growing volume in Pakistan.
The baki PM should announce that bakis will ride donkeys (while chewing grass) but will not trade with India until Art 370 is brought back!
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 27 Mar 2024 19:00
by drnayar
pretty sure PNS rizhwan is manned by the Chinese !.. dont think there is any paki who can manage electronics
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 31 Mar 2024 17:09
by A_Gupta
Each day, more and more people are finding themselves in economic blackholes, thanks to imprudent government policies, and each day more and more people are openly or covertly begging before anyone who can give them a few rupees.
This trend is fast gaining an international dimension, as evident from a news report wherein the Overseas Ministry Secretary informed the Senate Standing Committee on Overseas Pakistanis, that a growing number of beggars from Pakistan were moving abroad, spurring human trafficking. More disturbing is the fact that 90 percent of beggars arrested in foreign countries were of Pakistani origin. They have been known to exploit pilgrim-visas to travel to Saudi Arabia, Iran and Iraq. A good number of pickpockets who were apprehended at holy sites were also Pakistanis. Japan, in dire need of skilled labor, is also emerging as a country of destination for these beggars. It is not long that just as we look with disdain at paupers in the streets, the international community would also be eyeing us with the same contempt.
TFT
https://thefridaytimes.com/29-Mar-2024/ ... r-best-bet
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 06 Apr 2024 02:05
by drnayar
https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/g ... 48.article
The tender highlights that PIA holds rights for 97 international routes, including slots at some of the attractive destinations. It also cites figures showing Pakistan’s “under-served” aviation market is set to have an annual compound growth rate of 5.5% over the coming five years.
PIA’s most recent full-year annual report shows it generated revenues of PKR172 billion ($619 million) in carrying 4.2 million passengers in 2022. That is around a million lower than its pre-pandemic passenger high of 5.2 million in 2019. The report shows the airline was loss-making between 2017 and 2022.
Cirium fleets data shows PIA has a fleet of eight Boeing 777s, 13 Airbus A320s and a pair of ATR 42s.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 06 Apr 2024 06:18
by disha
^ Thanks for the summary Dr.Nayar'ji. So the entire Bakistani airline industry is not even worth $500 million. At 5.5% CAGR, the investment needs to be discounted by at least 20%.
In effect currently there is no point for any investor to look at Bakistani airline, unless they take over the assets of 8 Boeing 777s, 13 Airbus A320s and lease them out till their EOL. And lease all the routes to the highest bidder. Generally it will be only 3 routes, Isloo/Karachi/Lawhore to UAE. And UAE to Isloo. And stop over flights for refueling from over flights at Karachi. Rest of the assets will either be leased or sold off. Why have a airport at Lawhore?
Put it this way, in a decade, Bakistan will not have an airline industry to speak off.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 09 Apr 2024 23:10
by S_Madhukar
PIA just need a few cargo planes which they can easily lease from some old freighters … hope IMF puts those conditions in, that will also meet some Green targets !
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 09 Apr 2024 23:13
by sanjaykumar
Pakistan needs an airline industry so that the relatives of majors and colonels can disappear in Toronto.
Would you begrudge them that? I wonder how they claim asylum when found. Modi is frightening me?
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 09 Apr 2024 23:45
by drnayar
also jobs for "pilots" who cant fly

Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 10 Apr 2024 08:01
by Deans
drnayar wrote: ↑06 Apr 2024 02:05
PIA’s most recent full-year annual report shows it generated revenues of PKR172 billion ($619 million) in carrying 4.2 million passengers in 2022. That is around a million lower than its pre-pandemic passenger high of 5.2 million in 2019. The report shows the airline was loss-making between 2017 and 2022.
In the 1st half of 2023, PIA made an even bigger loss - this after people travelled a lot more in the post Covid environment.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 18 Apr 2024 01:58
by Neela
https://www.opindia.com/2024/04/man-kil ... -distress/
“Can’t afford to feed them”: Pakistan Man kills wife and seven children with an axe, cites financial distress as motive in confession to police
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 18 Apr 2024 12:19
by Manish_P
Pakistan is fighting the war against global warming. It should be given 'x' billion USD for it's sacrifice
Car sales decline by 36.9 % in FY 2024
Passenger car sales plummeted to 54,089 units, marking a significant 36.9% decline during the initial nine months of fiscal year 2024 (July to March). This downturn can be attributed to various factors, including soaring inflation, diminished purchasing power, high interest rates, expensive auto financing, and rising car prices, as per data provided by the Pakistan Automotive Manufacturers Association (PAMA).
Additionally, PAMA reported significant declines in truck and bus sales by 45.2% and 39% respectively. Sales of Jeeps and pick-ups also saw a decline of 40.3%, while two and three-wheeler sales (motorbikes and rickshaws) decreased by 9.9%.
meanwhile India in just
one month of March -
Auto Industry Sales Performance of March 2024
Monthly Performance: March 2024
Production: The total production of Passenger Vehicles, Three Wheelers, Two Wheelers and Quadricycle in the month of March 2024 was 23,25,959 units
Domestic Sales:
Passenger Vehicles sales were 3,68,086 units in March 2024.
Three-wheeler sales were 56,723 units in March 2024.
Two-wheeler sales were 14,87,579 units in March 2024.
* BMW, Mercedes, JLR, Tata Motors & Volvo Auto data are not available.
Note - Al bakistan is moving even more aggressively towards green fuel with faster transition to donkey carts.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 19 Apr 2024 05:34
by A_Gupta
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 19 Apr 2024 06:16
by bharathp
^^^
the first line in the description reads
"British colonizers created a massive canal system in Pakistan — and helped cause the country’s deadly water crisis."
so why cant you do something about it for the past 70-75 years?
the entitlement and shifting the blame is so heavy in their discourse. its always someone else's fault.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 19 Apr 2024 09:21
by Anujan
Pakistan has lost $1 trillion due to British Canal System
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 20 Apr 2024 22:13
by Aditya_V
bharathp wrote: ↑19 Apr 2024 06:16
^^^
the first line in the description reads
"British colonizers created a massive canal system in Pakistan — and helped cause the country’s deadly water crisis."
so why cant you do something about it for the past 70-75 years?
the entitlement and shifting the blame is so heavy in their discourse. its always someone else's fault.
The Canal system was built by Hard working Hindus and Sikhs, but the British gave this.most fertile land in the subcontinent to the loyal Pakjabis.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 20 Apr 2024 23:06
by RCase
Aditya_V wrote: ↑20 Apr 2024 22:13
The Canal system was built by Hard working Hindus and Sikhs, but the British gave this.most fertile land in the subcontinent to the loyal Pakjabis.
It was a Yahood, Hanood, Nazara sazish against Paxtan.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 24 Apr 2024 10:46
by Manish_P
Paxstan needs to have a dedicated minister and ministry of loans.. with a retired Jernail heading it of course
Yawn -
Foreign loan target missed amid major slippages
Pakistan received only about $9.8 billion in foreign loans and grants in the first nine months (July-March) of the current fiscal year, far behind the annual target of $17.4bn, amid major slippages in raising international financial support.
The Ministry of Economic Affairs (MEA) on Tuesday said the government could materialise about $6.899 bn in foreign economic assistance (FEA) in the first nine months of the current fiscal year, almost 39 pc of the annual budget target, amid limited borrowing avenues in the wake of poor credit rating and adverse conditions in the global financial markets despite the support of the International Monetary Fund (IMF).
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 24 Apr 2024 21:14
by partha
If India can talk about becoming a developed nation by 2047, why can't Pakistan?
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2463713/3t ... hsan-iqbal
$3tr economy possible by 2047: Ahsan Iqbal
“Pakistan targets a 9% growth rate to realise this goal,” he said, underscoring the current favourable climate for international investments, with notable commitments from China and Saudi Arabia.
Impressive but not as much as this part of the speech where he laid out this clever plan:
He advocated for the development of comprehensive ecosystems within business clusters to optimise value chains and promote sustainable value addition.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 24 Apr 2024 22:29
by morem
some high falutin consultant made a c*****a out of these guys, the language is very specific.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 25 Apr 2024 11:09
by A_Gupta
A century after independence Pakistan will have more people than India had at independence.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 25 Apr 2024 12:03
by chetak
partha wrote: ↑24 Apr 2024 21:14
If India can talk about becoming a developed nation by 2047, why can't Pakistan?
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2463713/3t ... hsan-iqbal
$3tr economy possible by 2047: Ahsan Iqbal
“Pakistan targets a 9% growth rate to realise this goal,” he said, underscoring the current favourable climate for international investments, with notable commitments from China and Saudi Arabia.
Impressive but not as much as this part of the speech where he laid out this clever plan:
He advocated for the development of comprehensive ecosystems within business clusters to optimise value chains and promote sustainable value addition.
why are these jihadis so obsessed with India .....
It is not good for their collective mental health ...
we have succeeded only because we are so very different and also distinct from them
the two nation theory was right
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 25 Apr 2024 12:14
by Manish_P
It's so simple isn't it.
All the eggspurt analcyst needs is an excel sheet and a PPT.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 25 Apr 2024 12:23
by S_Madhukar
That’s a lot of growth target just for adding some green paint - who know the total addressable market for Green paint and painters will be cornered by Bakis

Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 25 Apr 2024 16:22
by SBajwa
RCase wrote: ↑20 Apr 2024 23:06
Aditya_V wrote: ↑20 Apr 2024 22:13
The Canal system was built by Hard working Hindus and Sikhs, but the British gave this.most fertile land in the subcontinent to the loyal Pakjabis.
It was a Yahood, Hanood, Nazara sazish against Paxtan.
Canal system was engineered by none other than Sir Gangaram (same person who established many hospitals, orphanages, schools, etc) under the IAS officer Sir James Lyall (who established the city of Lyallpur now called Faisalabad).
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 25 Apr 2024 18:32
by A_Gupta
partha wrote: ↑24 Apr 2024 21:14
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2463713/3t ... hsan-iqbal
$3tr economy possible by 2047: Ahsan Iqbal
“Pakistan targets a 9% growth rate to realise this goal,” he said, underscoring the current favourable climate for international investments, with notable commitments from China and Saudi Arabia.
Impressive but not as much as this part of the speech where he laid out this clever plan:
He advocated for the development of comprehensive ecosystems within business clusters to optimise value chains and promote sustainable value addition.
If you want to waste your time, here is Ahsan Iqbal.
https://www.youtube.com/live/m8J-llWZ78 ... vi&t=14897
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 25 Apr 2024 18:43
by A_Gupta
Ahsan Iqbal - OCTOBER 1 2014
In August {2014}, professor Ahsan Iqbal, Pakistan's minister for planning and development, launched the 'Vision 2025' programme, which aspires to make Pakistan one of the world’s top 25 economies by that year. (Two years ago, Goldman Sachs forecast that the country would be in the top 20 by 2025.)
from:
https://www.thebanker.com/A-glimmer-of- ... 0by%202025.)
Same time period:
https://www.pc.gov.pk/uploads/vision202 ... ummary.pdf
As we pass through an era of unprecedented change and complexity, it is imperative that we refresh our framework for national development to create a robust platform and to place Pakistan in the league of Upper Middle Income countries by 2025. However, our ultimate destination is to see Pakistan among the top ten economies of the world by 2047 – the centennial year of our independence.
My comment: vision is easy, creating a realistic plan and executing the plan is hard.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 25 Apr 2024 20:56
by S_Madhukar
All this is to get some dollar investment from gullible and brotherly countries only to scoot - now that free dollars are being withheld by IMF. Bhikharis would have paid the usual think tanks for making their case as well.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 26 Apr 2024 04:54
by jash_p
Ahsan Iqbal - OCTOBER 1 2014
In August {2014}, professor Ahsan Iqbal, Pakistan's minister for planning and development, launched the 'Vision 2025' programme, which aspires to make Pakistan one of the world’s top 25 economies by that year. (Two years ago, Goldman Sachs forecast that the country would be in the top 20 by 2025.)
He also said due to CEPC worlds 4% sea traffic will pass through Gwadar port after phase I and Pakis will get trillions of dollar as royalty. Today there is 0.00% traffic passing through.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 04 May 2024 07:32
by A_Gupta
"Foreign exchange reserves held by the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) increased by $25 million on a weekly basis, clocking in at $8 billion as of April 26, data released on Thursday showed."
https://www.brecorder.com/news/40301437/ajax-request
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 18 May 2024 11:10
by A_Gupta
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2467112/im ... ower-rates
IMF grills Pakistan on power rates
Fund assumes rupee will devalue to Rs329/$ or 18% by June next year
The issue of the applicable exchange rate for working out prices also surfaced during Pakistan-IMF meetings. The IMF advised Pakistan to consider the average depreciation in the value of the rupee for working out next year’s annual base tariffs instead of reflecting a stable value.
The IMF assumed the rupee would be devalued to Rs329 to a dollar or 18% by June next year. It is not clear what value of the rupee it has recommended for working out the next base price increase.
Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 18 May 2024 17:24
by mody
The Paki GDP estimates are always stated at about $300-350 billion, no matter the exchange rate of the Paki rupee. The GDP remains the same with the Paki rupee at 150 and also at 329!!!!!