The Cricket World Cup Thread

asgkhan · Post by **asgkhan** » 03 Apr 2011 11:46

Excellent write-up on Gary Kirsten. Hopefully he will write a reveal-all book on his journey towards world-cup.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/goodbye-gary/770767/0

BTW, who will be the next coach of Team-India? Any guesses?

Vivek Kumar · Post by **Vivek Kumar** » 03 Apr 2011 11:49

asgkhan wrote:The dudes posting at SL forums are alright, no cons-pee-racy theories or blaming the yindoos. Self-analyses and the performance appraisal of their team, seems to be the gist of their diss-cuss-ions.

after all, they are also yindoos onleee!!!!!!!!!!
even their President visited a temple first thing in India.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 03 Apr 2011 11:53

Thus Spake Dhoni

"A few decisions I have taken today, including why I brought in S Sreesanth instead of Ravichandran Ashwin and why I promoted myself in the batting order ahead of Yuvraj who has been in great form. It could have been that the decisions cost the match," he said at the post-match presentation after India beat Sri Lanka by six wickets in the summit showdown here.

"We have been hearing a lot of things during this tournament and so it feels great to win the World Cup," he said.

"I always wanted to give chance to give chance to younger players by sending them up the order. Today, I thought I would take the responsibility myself. It was more like proving myself and not to others," he said.

Asked specifically if the World Cup triumph was in a way telling the critics to shut up as the players would do their job with their performance, he said, "In India it would be very rude to say like that."

"We spent the last 30-35 days together in the field and the dressing room thinking of this victory only and we have achieved that now," he added

Dhoni said coach Gary Kirsten and senior players backed him on his decision to promote ahead of Yuvraj.

"The pressure had got to me in the previous games. In this game, I wanted to bat up the order and Gary and the senior players backed me," said Dhoni, who was declared man of the match for his 91 not out from 79 balls.

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 03 Apr 2011 11:56

We defeated every previous World CHampion to lift the World Cup!

West Indies
Australia
Pakistan
Sri Lanka

asgkhan · Post by **asgkhan** » 03 Apr 2011 11:57

Sanga knew he lost the toss: Vaughan
PTI | 11:04 AM,Apr 03,2011

London, Apr 3 (PTI) Former England captain Michael Vaughan has accused Kumar Sangakkara of cheating during the coin toss of the cricket World Cup final against India, saying it was the Sri Lankan skipper's "skulduggery" which prompted a re-toss. There was confusion during toss of yesterday's final, which India won by six wickets to reclaim the World Cup after 28 years. The start to the match was marred by confusion when the coin toss had to be performed twice after match referee Jeff Crowe failed to hear what Sangakkara had called. But Vaughan wrote on his Twitter page that Sangakkara conned his Indian counterpart Mahendra Singh Dhoni. "Sangakkara has stuffed Dhoni. He shouted tails in the first toss and lost it. You can hear it on air." He later tweeted: "I hear tails shout at the toss..Others hear heads... Inconclusive on the replays." Vaughan went on to insist that the Sri Lankan skipper knew he had lost the toss the first time around. "I think there was a bit of skulduggery at the toss.Kumar Sangakkara knew he'd lost that first toss, but he saw Dhoni hadn't really heard him!" PTI PM SSC

But Vaughan wrote on his Twitter page that Sangakkara conned his Indian counterpart Mahendra Singh Dhoni.

"Sangakkara has stuffed Dhoni. He shouted tails in the first toss and lost it. You can hear it on air."

He later tweeted: "I hear tails shout at the toss.. Others hear heads... Inconclusive on the replays."

Vaughan went on to insist that the Sri Lankan skipper knew he had lost the toss the first time around.

"I think there was a bit of skulduggery at the toss. Kumar Sangakkara knew he'd lost that first toss, but he saw Dhoni hadn't really heard him!"

Vivek Kumar · Post by **Vivek Kumar** » 03 Apr 2011 12:00

We Indians, the world champions, forgive Kumar Sangkara.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 03 Apr 2011 12:06

Neela wrote:We defeated every previous World CHampion to lift the World Cup!

West Indies
Australia
Pakistan
Sri Lanka

AWMTA! I was thinking the same thing.

If there was ever a convincing well-deserved World Cup victory, this is the gold standard. Even the worst skeptics (unless they are high on herpes) will agree that luck had very little to do with Indians winning this World Cup. A cold clinical methodical disciplined performance was what did it.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 03 Apr 2011 12:06

Pakistani cricket fans at Karachi airport welcome the Pakistani cricket players returning to Pakistan on Friday, April 1. - Photo by AP

http://www.dawn.com/2011/04/02/crickete ... eroes.html

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 03 Apr 2011 12:08

Seems Swan Song phrase is caught on TimesNow. Even Ravi Shastri is telling it . Times Now ran a caption "Tendulkar's Perfect SwanSong"

What's cooking. One thing is sure they read BRF before going online.

Vivek Kumar · Post by **Vivek Kumar** » 03 Apr 2011 12:08

Btw, somebody already posed it...

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 03 Apr 2011 12:14

http://www.dawn.com/2011/04/02/crickete ... eroes.html

PAKISTANIS appear to have tamed the wild ghosts within. Punjab Chief Minister Mian Shahbaz Sharif is at hand to receive the Pakistani cricketers who stumbled — and that too against India — when the world glory was only a couple of strides away from them.

Refreshingly, the cricketers who come back from India are hardly reminiscent of the garlanded prisoners of war whose release ZAB had managed to secure some four decades ago. The throwback to the emotional outpouring of 1996 — when Pakistan lost to India in the quarter-finals in Bengaluru — or of 1999 — when the side went down against Australia in the finals without as much as a protest — have been avoided.

Mr Sharif, who is known for his penchant for seizing a popular moment when he sees one, implies this was not war but a game of cricket and for once everyone agrees. {They were talking about matches as 'jung', right?} The praise he and other prominent figures have directed towards the national cricketers is aided by a wave of voices that has replaced the euphoria generated by a semi-final between Pakistan and India.

From everywhere in the country emanate statements that hail the team for progressing up to the last-four stage, at a time when few gave them any chance. Pakistanis have been graceful in defeat and have thus defied those who are, as always, trying to exploit the sentiments for good business.

The rumours about a sellout, revelations about bookies, the expert analyses that highlight tactical mistakes, even a reference to the intimidating partisanship flaunted by the hosts, these have not quite been able to so far catch the fancy of the Pakistani public. It is as if they are in a hurry to put this bad moment behind them and move on.

The Pakistanis have grown up and the reasons for the maturity they have displayed may not be too easy to put a finger on. In any case, it will be difficult to pinpoint all the ingredients that have contributed to this sober offering. Having said that, a few factors that are hampering sales by the ever emotional businessmen may be more easily identifiable.

For one, the pace has picked up and there is much more cricket now than was the case, say, in the 1990s. The introduction of the T20 format and the holding of the T20 world cup tournament every other year means that the opportunity to shine at an international championship is not as rare as it used to be. Even otherwise there is so much cricket going on and so great is the hype around it that it has enabled the followers to reconcile with their victories and their losses much better than they were able to in the past.

Recall the T20 triumph a couple of years ago. It was as if there was not enough time for celebration with another edition of the cup looming a few months on.

Hopes may seldom be proportional to potential but Pakistanis knew that theirs was a weaker side as compared to many others, including the Indian team. This was unlike the past occasions.

Pakistanis felt that they had been weakened by design and if the post-match conversations are a guide to public thinking, Pakistan has done sufficiently well to defeat the ‘discriminatory’ international system. This is in sync with the general Pakistani take on all affairs related to politics and their relations with the rest of the world.

The Pakistani side entered the semi-final as a ghazi and a shaheed at the same time. That they had beaten Sri Lanka and Australia in their pool and reached the semis was popularly considered in the country to be a singular feat given that they had been the victim of yet another ‘international conspiracy’ only a few months earlier.

The Pakistan cricket received a killer blow in the banning of two of its best bowlers who had carried their country’s hopes for a good showing in the tenth edition of the World Cup tournament. To the victims, the timing of the sentence given to Muhammad Aamir and Muhammad Asif — just weeks before the start of the world cup — was a reconfirmation of the international plot.

To many a common Pakistani the ICC was a body hell bent on ensuring a depleted Pakistan side for the tournament. Without the sinisterous pace of Aamir and the dexterity of Asif Pakistan’s World Cup campaign was ‘designed’ to flounder much earlier than it did actually.

As Pakistanis have defeated one conspiracy, and as we celebrate our maturity, perhaps some concern should be shown for another factor that may have played a profound role in shaping our non-arrogant reactions today. A people so precariously caught in a war, Pakistanis have mastered the art of how to come to terms with their grief.

In the circumstances, they lack the arrogance that is a by-product of security and confidence and is sustained and exploited to the maximum by the market, as may be the case in another country, say India. Constantly attacked by terrorists, the people of Pakistan have learnt how to forget and move on. Deaths and revelations and defeats do not scare us as much as they did in the 1990s. On to the next contest then — with a desire for win, but with our ‘no fear’ jerseys on.

asgkhan · Post by **asgkhan** » 03 Apr 2011 12:23

Tamang · Post by **Tamang** » 03 Apr 2011 12:24

How Indians have ruined cricket - Aakar Patel

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 03 Apr 2011 12:31

^^Well we always have some quisling closet pakis and WKK a-monkey's-tamasha types who love to bow down to the white sahibs and their brown peons. Or maybe he just lost a fortune betting against India hence the mucho

.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 03 Apr 2011 12:35

aakar patel is a well known quantity. he is just simply anti-Indian.

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 03 Apr 2011 12:35

Raja Bose wrote:^^Well we always have some quisling closet pakis and WKK a-monkey's-tamasha types who love to bow down to the white sahibs and their brown peons. Or maybe he just lost a fortune betting against India hence the mucho .

What can I say.
The writer hasn't seen international football! Gangs , hooligans , boos and whistles. The Indians are at least silent.

Poor guy has to make a living pandering to terrorists. I feel sorry for him

partha · Post by **partha** » 03 Apr 2011 12:36

Tamang wrote:How Indians have ruined cricket - Aakar Patel

2 overnight celebrities because of this world cup - Poonam Pandey and Bekar Patel.

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 03 Apr 2011 12:43

Hang on...ever notice in football, supporters sit in massive groups and police are present inside and outside to prevent violence. If Indians are neanderthal, then this is beastly

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 03 Apr 2011 12:44

Tamang wrote:How Indians have ruined cricket - Aakar Patel

ch***ya article....heartburns and assburns all over.....by the way, Dhoni bhai was a true karma yogi....played a captain innings...lifted the WC..gave it to his teammates...and then away from media glare and victory parade...awesome personality....

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 03 Apr 2011 12:50

Coconut Patel has nt sat through in crikkit matches in gora des which many others have. Here are some incidents of note:
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... an-descent
http://cricket.oneindia.in/news/2006/11 ... abuse.html
http://www.crickblog.com/entry/nz-mps-b ... in-napier/
http://www.suryakumari.com/articles/cricket.html

What was the Tony Greig groveling incident all about? What was the apartheid ban on South Africa all about? Obviously Mr. Coconut is farting right through his mouth as usual.

asgkhan · Post by **asgkhan** » 03 Apr 2011 12:52

partha wrote:
Tamang wrote:How Indians have ruined cricket - Aakar Patel

2 overnight celebrities because of this world cup - Poonam Pandey and Bekar Patel.

Yes, but one is fap-worthy and other one is wipe-worthy, after a visit to bakistan.

Manish Jain · Post by **Manish Jain** » 03 Apr 2011 13:01

SBajwa ji, I hope you've cooled down by now. Since others asked you to read the full post I won't repeat it. I'll chalk it down to excitement and probable drunk state.

Loved the way Dhoni twirled his bat after he hit that six. Very Clint Eastwoodesque in style onlee after shooting down a bunch of outlaws.

By the way, Dhoni has won us a lot -
1- T20 world cup
2- IPL
3- Champions League
4- No 1 in tests
5- No 1 in ODIs
6- ODI world cup

He has earned lifetime free pass. No decisions and no performance of his should be criticized now.

vina · Post by **vina** » 03 Apr 2011 13:01

From a Ticket Collector in Kharagpur to the World Cup winning Captain

Now. That is one fascinating story and shows the channels that India offers for real advancement for talent and true capability and that too in a team game like cricket where it is easy to side track and derail a talented person's career and prospects by open bias.

A lot of people have said that that this team represents a "New India" very different from the slouched shouldered men who somehow didn't seem to have the steel in them. Well, the older generations of cricketers in India were the well schooled /well heeled gentlemen from the larger cities of India mostly , came from largely cushy/middleclass/ RAPE equivalent background (princes and ex royals and well connected etc), swish English speaking etc.

But somehow, cricket like much of industry and other stuff in INdia became a more "mass sport", leading to a "thousand flowers" blooming in every nook and corner of the country. Look at some of the leading lights in the team. Sehwag--Najafgarh, Dhoni - Ranchi, Munaf Patel.. some village near Baroda, Zahir Khan, some deep interior of Maharashtra , Yusuf Pathan and his brother .. all come from very humble backgrounds , some even subaltern and are here by way of their talent and really not mai-baap! This is the "bahujan samaj" working the way it should. There surely was a case of caste based reservation in the cricketing teams of old in a perverse way.

With india tapping into a deeper talent pool (the Aussies , English, Sri Lankans and Paksitanis doing so much earlier), the true strenghts of Indian society is coming forth, in cricket and in everything else.

But look at the way it has come forward. A Dhoni from Jharkand can actually speak proper English (so could Zaheer, from some random middle Maharahstra), seem well groomed, well grounded and can make intelligent conversation and with training hold their knife and for (the earlier haw haws excelled in being burra sahibs and knife and fork wallahs) . Other than Munaf, who seems rustic (not that is a problem anyways),the others even from humble backgrounds and small towns seem to be fine!

Compare that with the retards from Pakistan. Afridi can hardly mouth a few sentences in English and that awful put on accent by Shoaib Akhtar to hide /mask his lack of fluency in English and basically come across as a bunch of unschooled roughnecks.

In Pakistan, there was a successful uber RAPE , Imran Khan and then there is the illiterate underclass , with someone like Rameez Raja and a few others who probably came from the middle class.

So there you are folks. It is the salt of the earth of India rising and conquering and yes, they seem to have some basic education/schooling, poise and elan and yes, can seem to handle a knife and fork!

Obviously none of this salt of the earth type are going to put do that apologetic, "oh so sorry, we are the unwashed turd world onree", to the goras of the earlier set of cricketers.

In fact the in the early 70s/80s, there was a small town rustic who burst forth and opened the cracks out for the others to follow. A certain gent named Kapil Dev, who pioneered that entry and won the world cup and despite that the snooty establishment in India (princes and bombay mafia) managed to sideline him even back then and more so now. In fact, Kapil's best remembered advertisements are for the Rapidex English Speaking dictionary or whatever mouthed in his Haryanvi accented English , something which a suave MAK Patuadi would never have done .

From Kapil Dev to Dhoni , it has been a flood of such people and the haw haw folks who do make it, making it on the dint of performance and not because they were the only people with the time and resources to play the game!

Jai Ho and all the rest of it.

Vipin_Upadhyay · Post by **Vipin_Upadhyay** » 03 Apr 2011 13:07

Rahul M wrote:very nice to read about this gesture from god towards his bhakt. wish we had a pic to capture the moment.

its only bhakts who sees not the unfathomable depth of his care for bhaktas.
God had also arranged to pay for tickets for Sudhir Gautam wherever he played.

asgkhan · Post by **asgkhan** » 03 Apr 2011 13:07

This match was great, except for the toss controversy, no sledging, no tamasha, good cricket from both sides, great fielding from yindoos during the first 10 overs, Dhoni's kaptaanship.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 03 Apr 2011 13:07

I have no pity for the SL team, they may be less pakis than the pakis, but they reaped their karma by thulping smaller teams such as canada, kenya, zimbabwe, bermuda etc. So let the SL oiseaules burn once more and suffer, and I wont forget 96 ever.

Just happened to see the whole game in a delayed telecast. Thanks shaardula for that hi-def link

. First game of any crikkit type seen in full since that fugly mayhem day in Eden and another fugly 194 day by the paki. Its always been hilites reel, delayed broadcast, cricbuzz text commentary or crapinfo farticles for the last ~15 years.

With revenge dished out cold (no closure still), I can go back to seeing live telecasts again. I am waiting for the DVD release of the QF/SF/Finals, will happily buy hi-def of the three games, hope BCCI releases that and makes some profit instead of pimping for ICC yet again. All that said, kudos to BCCI for running/coaxing the establishment in running the Indian part of the Cup without any logistics issue/security nightmares. WCH - check, CWG - check, WCC - check, IPL4 - to be checked. Like air travelers remember the pre-911 period for the cockpit pics etc., going to a stadium wont be the same again ever, till the paki nation becomes 4 or as gola would say, 400%.

asgkhan · Post by **asgkhan** » 03 Apr 2011 13:09

Not sure if you guys noticed it, but during the match against the pukes, Gautam had Indian Army stencilled across his chest. PHUCK you WKKs, the aam-aadmi remembers everything.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 03 Apr 2011 13:17

With all the tamasha on the crikkit field, as much as I hate to admit it, reality for other sports is going to be hard, harder and hardest. Some of you capitalist baniyas may not be too worried, but I am a sports communist unfortunately (hope butler loses for putting it past my team

). 83 meant a swift kick to the balls of hickey, 2011 will probably be the final nail in the coffin. Why on earth would anyone want to play hickey anymore, worse become a coach or a support staff member? Rajpal Singh, Sandeep Singh, etc. should all be cowering in their cave complexes by now. Its a zero sum game at some level, whether one wants to accept it or not. Certainly zero sum in terms of attention span. Not to take things away from crikkit, but it is a bit of a sad commentary on the unretirables of India and their tantrums that never get reported, except by one gloomy unkbhai.

sugriva · Post by **sugriva** » 03 Apr 2011 13:27

Stan_Savljevic wrote:With all the tamasha on the crikkit field, as much as I hate to admit it, reality for other sports is going to be hard, harder and hardest. Some of you capitalist baniyas may not be too worried, but I am a sports communist unfortunately . 83 meant a swift kick to the balls of hickey, 2011 will probably be the final nail in the coffin. Why on earth would anyone want to play hickey anymore, worse become a coach or a support staff member? Rajpal Singh, Sandeep Singh, etc. should all be cowering in their cave complexes by now. Its a zero sum game at some level, whether one wants to accept it or not. Certainly zero sum in terms of attention span. Not to take things away from crikkit, but it is a bit of a sad commentary on the unretirables of India and their tantrums that never get reported, except by one gloomy unkbhai.

On the contrary I would say that India's world cup win has whetted the Indian public's appetite for success in other sports. This is a coming of age victory for India and its significance is more than that of winning the world cup. The Indian public has tasted blood and is looking for more kills in other arenas. World cup hockey and world cup football are the next stops !!!!

vina · Post by **vina** » 03 Apr 2011 13:30

asgkhan wrote:Not sure if you guys noticed it, but during the match against the pukes, Gautam had Indian Army stencilled across his chest. PHUCK you WKKs, the aam-aadmi remembers everything.

Yes of course. 26/11 cannot be forgotten or forgiven. Keep the Pakraoches out of IPL.

The beggars are already on their knees begging to be let into the IPL. The WKKs can stand on their d*cks if they want. But No Jose. No Pakis in IPL.

vina · Post by **vina** » 03 Apr 2011 13:32

OH. And I would add Harbhajan to the list in my earlier post. Cricketers in the current team from hardscrabble /small town backgrounds.

Sehwag, Munaf, Yusuf Pathan, Bhajji, Dhoni, Zaheer Khan.

vish_mulay · Post by **vish_mulay** » 03 Apr 2011 13:36

Marten, Zacks is from Shrirampur near Shirdi (Saibaba) and not from A'bad. Shrirampur is any small township in MH where sugar mill used to be central to whole life. He moved to Mumbai after 12th Std. FYI.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 03 Apr 2011 13:42

sugriva wrote: The Indian public has tasted blood and is looking for more kills in other arenas. World cup hockey and world cup football are the next stops !!!!

Boss, I am cynical given what I have not seen and mis-read

.

Without exaggerating too much, let me say that Indians at large have a big problem in terms of long term memory. We are too excitable, too emotional, too fatalistic and too complicated to be machines. While these are the very features that make us who we are, there are also obvious problems. We dont remember or rather we choose not to remember much of our past, except for some stalwarts who will yak endlessly about our poorva janmas

. You can dice that in any way you like, but a prime example to me would be when people such as Nirmal Shekhar remember what they were doing on June 25, 1983. Ask the same about March 15, 1975, I guess people will talk about where they ate gruel cos of India Gandhi's benevolence or go around in circles about how someone they knew enjoyed these benefits. Not many will think of Ashok Kumar's goal. I doubt if a few will even realize that Ashok Kumar was the closest we could get to Dhyanchand on the field

.

To be more pointed, we saw the "wetting the appetite" comment after CWG/AG wins by small-towners. Guess what, I follow sports with a tight ass these days than before

. I know that many dont know that Londonistan will start within a year and a few months. Certainly, our unretirables have yet to allocate training moneys to the small-towners and others alike. I can go on and on with specifics, but boss, nuff for a day. In India, people thrive despite the system. That is why, when someone who could nt understand that BCCI is an exception to this rule in a certain vague sense, but dishes out crap at it cos of their fancied notions of egalitarianism that is misplaced, I am happy to slap back.

girish.r · Post by **girish.r** » 03 Apr 2011 13:46

Manish Jain wrote: Loved the way Dhoni twirled his bat after he hit that six. Very Clint Eastwoodesque in style onlee after shooting down a bunch of outlaws.

Rajnikanth Style

Just love it!!

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 03 Apr 2011 14:04

Anhoni ko honi karde....
Honi ko Anhoni....

Anhoni ko honi karde....
Honi ko Anhoni....

Ek Jagah jab jama ho tino.....

Rajini, Ghajini aur Dhoni...

AoA onlee....

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 03 Apr 2011 14:06

From a friend of mine on Facebook wrote: When Shahid Afridi went back to Karachi..his Bibi served him "GARAM CHAI" in a saucer. Shahid asked "WHY". Bibi replied... India took "THE CUP" He!He!He!

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 03 Apr 2011 14:08

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 03 Apr 2011 14:13

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 03 Apr 2011 14:15

1996 avenged, finally!

On the serious note, SL played really well but fell short of playing great.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 03 Apr 2011 14:16

Its 212 already. The fastest double century of any thread in the history of BRF??