Are foreign countries becoming more unsafe for Indians?

[Lalmohan]

historical hygeine levels to one side - most goras these days do shower daily and there is a big drive to use deodorants, and other perfumes. as singha says - if you are clean, then you don't really need to. but some people sweat more than others and some people smell more than others - so usage of these products is being pushed extensively by their manufacturers. most indians are indeed clean, but all people have distinctive cultural odours - from food and other factors. goras for example will often smell of stale rooms (from cold environments) or some other household products or foods/fats. indians can smell of indian food, particularly those people who are new to a cold country and do not ventilate their homes or their clothes. i encounter it every day on the train to work. in india, these same components will not create a smell since they will be dispersed through the open air, warmth and perspiration (e.g. garlic smell). and there are some indians i know (just like goras) who are not clean and do have strong body odours - and do need to wash and/or deoderise
it is certainly not a generic thing, but a highly specific individually driven thing

[sanjeevpunj]

isnt "islamic justice" meant to deter all manner of crime? or are the upholders of the law indulging in the dark side?

Indeed there is a deterrent is in place thanks to the people who observe and follow the shariah rules here, but illegal floating populations,disturbed by years of turmoil in the Middle East, are just lurking around, waiting to grab anything they can easily grab.The law is as always, late in reacting.

[ManjaM]

http://www.firstpost.com/india/norway-c ... 91450.html

An update on Norweigian Child protective services kidnapping 2 desi kids.

There seems to be some hope for the couple now as External Affairs Minister SM Krishna has intervened. On Monday, he directed the Indian ambassador in Norway to convey to his Norwegian counterpart that the kids must be sent back to their parents. He has also asked the envoy to lodge an official protest. It now emanates that under a compromise formula, the kids would be handed over to their grandparents.

Hopefully, the ordeal of the family would soon be over. But what the developments bring to the fore is the inability of many nations in Europe to get over the cultural superiority complex and accept the habits and ways of others gracefully.

Just one passing thought: does not Norway’s action amount to cruelty?

[SBajwa]

US, UK lead the world in crime. India is number 9. Considering that India's population is 20 times that of UK, the crime rates normailized by the population (i.e. per 100,000 or so citizens), will show that UK has nearly 80 times the crime rate of India and the US nearly 30 times!

I am not sure about UK but in USA 99% of the crimes get reported. A simple verbal talk with your child's soccer coach can become a "physical threat" with stay order from court. Can we say the same thing about India (how much percent of crimes do get reported)?

Norwegians are the new Communist state (like Chinese).

Talking about body odours anybody remember pheromones?

[shiv]

A simple verbal talk with your child's soccer coach can become a "physical threat" with stay order from court. Can we say the same thing about India (how much percent of crimes do get reported)?

Bajwaji, in India also these things get reported. They are called "Fake encounter" or "Hindutva"

[shiv]

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/226 ... ondon.html

A 26-year-old Indian MBA student was critically stabbed in the London borough of Newham last night and 11 persons have been arrested, Scotland Yard said today.

This is the fourth attack on Indians in the last two months. Earlier three incidents were fatal.
"Police called at 08.23 on Friday, 10 February to Newham General Hospital after a man in his 20's was admitted suffering from stab wounds. He is currently in hospital in a critical condition," Scotland Yard told PTI.

"Officers believe the man sustained his injuries at an address in Kent Street, E13. Eleven people have been arrested. Four remain in custody. The other seven have been bailed until future dates. Detectives from Newham Borough are investigating," it added.

[Gaurav_S]

so do the goras bath daily or have they gone feral and green?

Goras think deodrant as neccessity. While Indians think taking shower everyday as neccessity but deodrant as bit of luxury.

I used to work weekends in tech support and many goras will turn up without taking shower and just putting deodrant. I don't think any Indian could easily do that every weekend.

Edit: Honestly, how many Indians in desh aged between 20-30's use deo regulary every day? IMO, stuff like deo's, break fast cereals are pretty expensive in India to become widely accepted.

[harbans]

Once a racist Gora prompted on a forum Indians couldn't invent the deodorant. I replied back..'Necessity is the mother of invention'. Then he said Indians never invented anything..i asked him to name 5 inventions he thinks the West made..he said Computers, Wireless Technology, Calculus, Grammar and one more..i asked him what in the Computer..he said the Chip and Binary. Well most of us here know, but i replied..Pentium was (Dham)..prompted another to say he uses the AMD K6..(BTW thats Dham again), Wireless was JC Bose, Binary was Pingala, Calculus were Kerala mathematicians and Grammar was Panini...the board was pretty stung. It took them a good hour to really get 5 things the West invented that didn't have an Indian connection..and i remember it included Cricket, Baseball and 3 tech items..

[Lisa]

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/226 ... ondon.html

A 26-year-old Indian MBA student was critically stabbed in the London borough of Newham last night and 11 persons have been arrested, Scotland Yard said today.

This is the fourth attack on Indians in the last two months. Earlier three incidents were fatal.
"Police called at 08.23 on Friday, 10 February to Newham General Hospital after a man in his 20's was admitted suffering from stab wounds. He is currently in hospital in a critical condition," Scotland Yard told PTI.

"Officers believe the man sustained his injuries at an address in Kent Street, E13. Eleven people have been arrested. Four remain in custody. The other seven have been bailed until future dates. Detectives from Newham Borough are investigating," it added.

Three Indians charged with attempted murder in assault on UK student

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome/in ... z1mCeixDUZ

[brihaspati]

^^^^I thought criminals had no "nationality"?

Should we not be looking up stats on who attacks Indians most, by ethnicity and nationality - in UK? The last riots figures were pretty clear. Largest were the Pakis, and next came "white British" [its perfectly legal to use the term - as many official forms of racial/ethnic categorization in UK use the term] who targeted Indians and Indian homes/biz.

By the way, a statistically significant portion of the "white Brit" accused got significantly lesser sentences for the same charges than the "non white-Brits". There is a merry explanatory round going on now from all the bosses of impartiality - judiciary, gov, police - as to why such biases are unbiased.

[Atri]

and i remember it included Cricket, Baseball and 3 tech items..

The game of bat-ball is mentioned in 13th century Marathi treatise - भावार्थदीपिका Bhaavartha-Deepika (popularly known as Gnaneshwari/ज्ञानेश्वरी). It is not gilli danda.. It is proper ball (चेंडू - ChenDu in marathi) and bat/plank (फळी - faLi) is mentioned.

आपणचि चेन्डु सुटे
मग आपणया उपटे
तेणे उसळता दाटे
आपणपान्चि ॥57

ऐसे जरि चेन्डुफ़लि
देखिजे का केव्हेळी
तरी बोलिजे हे खेलि प्रबुध्दाचि ॥58

Bhavarthadeepika, adhyaya 9, shloka 57-58

Though ball dropped from hand, it bounces and returns to hand. as ball falls down and returns, similarly life escaped from parabrahma takes physical appearance (of human) and after life is over goes back in hands of bramha. - 57

in this game of bat - ball as ball is hithere and there, up and down but again comes back in hand, same way a "Gyaani purusha" though appearing has physical human is in fact Brahma-Swaroopa. -58

Whatever the philosophical meaning be whether they understand it or not, the game of bat-ball mentioned means even cricket and baseball are not without Indic connection..