Boston Bombing Followup Thread

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 20 Apr 2013 17:36

In Russian language there is no alphabet for sound "H". So they use "X" which sounds like " Kh" as in Khan. Consequently my sir name "Singh" sounds like "cinkh" when read it in Russian.And if you translate it from Russian it is "Sinkh"

Actual name in Johar means brave or sacrifice in Farsi (I may be wrong here). When you write it in Russian it gives sound Jokhar. And it is translated in English as it sounds.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 20 Apr 2013 17:37

a relative being the engineering consultancy business (now retd) has a lot of old friends who served in places like iran and the gulf, from way back in the 1970s and 80s. they spent many years there, some wanted to marry local beautiful women and settle there but had to come back as no such chances were available.

per somethings he heard all this "piety" of women wearing head to toe burqa is hogwash for public consumption and under pressure out side the house . at home it is said, they all wear half pants, skimpy tops and whatever else suits the hot climate there, which is to say very minimal clothing.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 20 Apr 2013 17:57

shyam wrote:
Lilo wrote:Now that Boston attacks happened, will the "Boston Brahmins" like US State Secy The Kerrorist (John Kerry), stop promoting Islamism as a tool of global US Strategy ?
OT. I would call Boston Brahmins, "Boston Untouchables". These people can not be touched by anybody as they are so powerful.

It may be OT, but underlying you are mapping certain attributes towards desh, that is not true. It can send different message to different people. Furthermore, there is nothing called untouchable in real desh.. it was only hygiene. but in massa, it is all about untouchable by law, nothing to do with hygiene.

nvishal · Post by **nvishal** » 20 Apr 2013 18:14

Two chechen brothers... I could have never guessed it.

Earlier I thought that a group or a gang was responsible but now its clear that this was an isolated incident. Nothing more to dig here folks.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 20 Apr 2013 18:26

‘Russia warned US of Chechen immigrants’

http://rt.com/op-edge/tsarnaev-boston-b ... cuses-122/

Rajiv Lather · Post by **Rajiv Lather** » 20 Apr 2013 18:46

Some random thoughts

If #2 hadn't been wounded, he might well have escaped. All this media drama, high-tech gizmos failed, he was outside their perimeter and the lock-down had already been lifted. But for the chance sighting of blood by the house owner.

If someone remembers, during the attack on Pakistan naval base there were reports of one of the attackers being Caucasian, and that he was super-fit, super-trained, was taking out Pak commandos with single shots from a long distance. And as far as I remember, he was not among the dead.

And finally Americans will do well to remember Hillary's warning, Clinton warns Pakistan on militant snakes

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 20 Apr 2013 18:59

Syria rebel contingent has many Chechens in leadership positions. The success of many attacks on Syrian military is often attributed to Western support but forget the Chechen influence.These senior Chechens were trained in Pakistan along with Basayev(Abu Idris). The CIA will have a lot to answer for after this Boston bombing.

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 20 Apr 2013 19:01

Read on
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/20 ... 25054.html

http://www.angelfire.com/falcon2/markrc99/chechnya.html

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 20 Apr 2013 19:04

fox is always biased though.. but it would largely fall in the category of saying now all chechens are terrorists. they will do it! that is fox.

yvijay · Post by **yvijay** » 20 Apr 2013 19:10

It look like Dhjokar was attending UMass Dartmouth and was in the college dorms on Tuesday and Wednesday after the bombing. Simple unbelievable !
Bombing suspect attended UMass

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev had passed an apparently normal day at the school Wednesday, according to a UMass official, working out at the gym, then sleeping in his single-unit room at the Pine Dale Hall dorm that night, while law enforcement officials were frantically scanning photos and video trying to identify him and his brother.

A student, who didn’t want to be identified, said she saw Dzhokhar Tsarnaev at a party Wednesday night that was attended by some of his friends with whom he played intramural soccer.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 20 Apr 2013 19:18

anyone who is simply does not want to be identified could be potentially a suspect of something odd/weird about his intentions. otoh, it could be that he is focusing on some research. but, one has to gather int based on the context and subject at hand. it is highly difficult to any one understand intentions however.. and this is the reason, associations with religious cult, sect, that has traits are common cultural hit points. once in the net, like how muslims are painted, it is bound to happen. pakis are pakis.. and this will go on forever.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 20 Apr 2013 19:21

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -live.html

Boston bomber brothers were "set up" says mother,for three years by the FBI!

14.24 (09.24) The mother of the two Boston bombers has said that Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, had been "controlled" by the FBI for at least three years.

Zubeidat Tsarnaeva told the English-language Russia Today television station in a phone interview, a recording of which was obtained by Reuters, that she believed her sons were innocent and had been framed:

Quote He (Tamerlan) was controlled by the FBI, like, for three to five years.

They knew what my son was doing, they knew what sites on the Internet he was going to.

It is really, really a hard thing to hear. And being a mother, what I can say is that I am really sure, I am 100 percent sure, that this is a set-up.

Rajiv Lather · Post by **Rajiv Lather** » 20 Apr 2013 19:25

pentaiah wrote:Read on
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/20 ... 25054.html

http://www.angelfire.com/falcon2/markrc99/chechnya.html

I know there are many American supporters here, and many are residing in the United States. But it is a fact that what United States and Britain have tried to do to Russia via the Chechen route, the same has been done by them for so many decades to India via Kashmir.

The biggest supporters and financiers of the Sunni Islamic Terrorism are United States and Saudi Arabia. And it seems, the Americans haven't learnt their lessons as yet...

member_23692 · Post by **member_23692** » 20 Apr 2013 19:39

Rajiv Lather wrote:
pentaiah wrote:Read on
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/20 ... 25054.html

http://www.angelfire.com/falcon2/markrc99/chechnya.html
I know there are many American supporters here, and many are residing in the United States. But it is a fact that what United States and Britain have tried to do to Russia via the Chechen route, the same has been done by them for so many decades to India via Kashmir.

The biggest supporters and financiers of the Sunni Islamic Terrorism are United States and Saudi Arabia. And it seems, the Americans haven't learnt their lessons as yet...

+100

saip · Post by **saip** » 20 Apr 2013 19:40

Bombers' mother stole clothes from Lord & Taylor and was charged with theft. Bomber brothers were nabbed because of video from Lord & Taylor. Poetic Justice?

Link

disha · Post by **disha** » 20 Apr 2013 19:46

Rajiv Lather wrote:
pentaiah wrote:Read on
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/20 ... 25054.html

http://www.angelfire.com/falcon2/markrc99/chechnya.html
I know there are many American supporters here, and many are residing in the United States. But it is a fact that what United States and Britain have tried to do to Russia via the Chechen route, the same has been done by them for so many decades to India via Kashmir.

The biggest supporters and financiers of the Sunni Islamic Terrorism are United States and Saudi Arabia. And it seems, the Americans haven't learnt their lessons as yet...

Yep, US is totally stupid, spending money behind this "great games". It is super power gone to head (within first 10 years of winning the WWII). Anyway - we do remember Robin Raphael! What was she?

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 20 Apr 2013 19:55

The problem is after cold-war, there is no power to show up. They are directionless now, but highly ionized to win some war here and there to retain the status. So, they enter the cheapstake games. It is a human trait.. example, Indian cops, have to be rude! to all! just to show his/her power.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 20 Apr 2013 20:54

Next idiotic step may be creating a Rohingya refugee community in the US to manipulate Myanmar. I believe it may have already started. The group is made up of mostly illegal, land-hungry Bangladeshis and has been successfully branded as "the most persecuted minority on earth" by a combo of western and OIC "aid groups". Their cousins in Assam are called "Bengali-speaking Indian Muslims" manufactured by kangres.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 20 Apr 2013 21:10

Rajiv Lather wrote:I know there are many American supporters here, and many are residing in the United States. But it is a fact that what United States and Britain have tried to do to Russia via the Chechen route, the same has been done by them for so many decades to India via Kashmir.

The biggest supporters and financiers of the Sunni Islamic Terrorism are United States and Saudi Arabia. And it seems, the Americans haven't learnt their lessons as yet...

You are right but you allegation that those who are residing in US are supporting US in doing such thing is free wheeling allegation which has become too common on this forum. Even the white extreme patriotic Americans and lived here for centuries agree to the above statement.

The only place where I agree is if you have said that Indians immigrated to US thinks that India should do also do like US. It is not possible of feasible yet to do like US. India has to find its solutions and definitely not trying to its potential.

I screw you and I get my dividends. Lecturing morality, my way of human rights and hypocrisy/double standard maintenance are all my strategy. That is what is America is. It is mistake of those who watch it and fall for its value system. It is the mistake of those who whine about its double standards. America just does not care about anyone in the world and it cares for longevity its superpower. If Russia and India are victims due to its actions that is good. Less competition in its mission.

It is India that needs to think about it. Whining and complaining has its success and also limitations. United states' is not going stop funding terror indirectly via Pakistan and Saudi and also Chechens. Just because few incidents like 911 occurred no one is going to kill its very good milk producing cow.

You better find successful ways to deal with it or live on attrition mode forever as you are doing for more than 25 years.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 20 Apr 2013 21:14

The Culprits

Brothers in Marathon bombings took two paths into infamy

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 20 Apr 2013 21:14

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/201 ... XK6WbWG2KI

China-Pakistan nuclear axis defies nonproliferation aims
BY HARSH V. PANT
SPECIAL TO THE JAPAN TIMES
APR 19, 2013

LONDON – The nonproliferation regime is in crisis with North Korea’s defiance and Iran’s continuation of its nuclear program despite opposition from the international community. Yet while a lot of discussion is happening about what can be done about these two states, no one seems willing to take on the elephant in the room: China.

Not only has China played a crucial role in the North Korean and Iranian nuclear programs, its nuclear engagement with Pakistan potentially remains the most destabilizing factor in the global management of nuclear weapons technology.

Last month Beijing confirmed its plans to sell a new 1,000-megawatt nuclear reactor to Pakistan in a deal signed in February. This pact was secretly concluded between the China National Nuclear Corp. (CNNC) and the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission during the visit by Pakistani nuclear industry officials to Beijing on Feb. 15-18. This sale will once again violate China’s commitment to the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) and contravenes China’s promise in 2004 while joining the NSG not to sell additional reactors to Pakistan’s Chashma nuclear facility beyond the two reactors that began operating in 2000 and 2011.

While this issue is likely to come up for discussion at the June meeting of the NSG in Prague, Beijing has already made it clear that nuclear cooperation between China and Pakistan “does not violate relevant principles of the Nuclear Suppliers Group.” This when the CNNC is not merely constructing civilian reactors in Chashm but also developing Pakistan’s nuclear fuel reprocessing capabilities and working to modernize Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal.

At a time when concerns about Pakistan’s nuclear program are causing jitters around the world, China has made its intention clear to go all-out in helping Pakistan’s nuclear development. Yet, with the diplomatic energies focused on Iran and North Korea, there is little discussion about the serious implications of this trend.

China has been bolstering Pakistan’s nuclear capabilities for the past five decades in an attempt to maintain parity between India and Pakistan. Based on their convergent interests vis-a-vis India, China and Pakistan reached a strategic understanding in mid-1950s, a bond that has only strengthened ever since.

Sino-Pakistan ties gained particular momentum in aftermath of the 1962 Sino-Indian war when the two states signed a boundary agreement recognizing Chinese control over portions of the disputed Kashmir territory. Since then, ties have been so strong that former Chinese President Hu Jintao described the relationship as “higher than mountains and deeper than oceans.”

It was Pakistan that, in the early 1970s, enabled China to cultivate its ties with the West and the United States in particular, becoming the conduit for Henry Kissinger’s landmark secret visit to China in 1971 and has been instrumental in bringing China closer to the larger Muslim world.

Over the years China emerged as Pakistan’s largest defense supplier. Military cooperation between the two has deepened with joint projects producing armaments ranging from fighter jets to guided missile frigates. China is a steady source of military hardware for the resource-deficient Pakistani Army. It has not only given technology assistance to Pakistan but also helped Pakistan to set up mass weapons production factories.

But what has been most significant is China’s major role in the development of Pakistan’s nuclear infrastructure, emerging as Pakistan’s benefactor at a time when increasingly stringent export controls in Western countries made it difficult for Pakistan to acquire materials and technology from elsewhere.

The Pakistani nuclear weapons program is essentially an extension of the Chinese one. Despite being a member of the NPT, China has supplied Pakistan with nuclear materials and expertise and has provided critical assistance in the construction of Pakistan’s nuclear facilities. Although China has long denied helping any nation attain a nuclear capability, the father of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons program, Abdul Qadeer Khan, himself has acknowledged the crucial role China has played in his nation’s nuclear weaponization by gifting 50 kg of weapons grade-enriched uranium and tons of uranium hexafluoride for Pakistan’s centrifuges. This may be the only case where a nuclear weapons state has passed on weapons-grade fissile material as well as a bomb design to a nonnuclear weapons state.

India has been the main factor that has influenced China and Pakistan’s policies vis-a-vis each other. Whereas Pakistan wants to gain access to civilian and military resources from China to balance the Indian might in the subcontinent, China, viewing India as potential challenger in the strategic landscape of Asia, views Pakistan as it central instrument to counter Indian power in the region.

The China-Pakistan partnership serves the interests of both by presenting India with a potential two-front theater in the event of war with either country. Not surprisingly, one of the central pillars of Pakistan’s strategic policies for more than four decades has been its steady and ever-growing military relationship with China. And preventing India’s dominance of South Asia by strengthening Pakistan has been a strategic priority for China.

But with India’s ascent in global hierarchy and American attempts to carve out a strong partnership with India, China’s need for Pakistan is only likely to grow. A rising India makes Pakistan all the more important for Chinese strategy for the subcontinent.

It’s highly unlikely that China will give up playing the Pakistan card vis-a-vis India anytime soon. And in this business of great power politics, weakening nuclear nonproliferation will continue to be a second order priority for Beijing.

Along with that this export is against the obligation and guidelines of NSG of 46 states. China’s stand on these questions is that this deal is the continuation of the agreements of 1980s when china neither join NPT nor NSG and this export is linked with the 2003 export of nuclear reactor to Pakistan. So, the obligations NSG cannot apply on this deal China did not need to get waiver of NSG.

Indo-US nuclear deal did not have any provision that shows that India will give up its right to nuclear testing. Indian scientists had been given an access to advance US nuclear technologies under the IAEA safeguards. India conducted a long term negotiations with the countries of NSG and in 2008 got the exception that no need of comprehensive safeguards by IAEA. When we look at the origin of NSG, it was created after the nuclear test of India in 1974, when India diverted the fuel to its weapon program. If India can be given exception in this era then why not Pakistan as in the case of Pak-China nuclear cooperation Pakistan always use imported reactor from china for peaceful purposes.
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IAF101 Faheem Uddin • a day ago
The agreement in 1980s between China and Pakistan were for "two" new nuclear reactors - not "six" as they have been building. Further the 1980s accord cannot be used as a pretext to continually keep adding to the nuclear facility at Chasma - a weapons complex and fuel reprocessing facility. This is against the spirit of the NSG and possibly illegal.

The difference between India and Pakistan, apart from the fact that one is a responsible Democratic state while the other is a terrorist haven and quasi-democratic militant theocracy. is the fact that Pakistan has a history of illegal nuclear commerce and nuclear proliferation. India negotiated an exception with the NSG for its responsible behavior and non-proliferation record, while Pakistan ran a underground nuclear market supplying nuclear material and technology to North Korea, Libya etc among other states for decades. Bad behavior is not rewarded with special exemptions.
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Faheem Uddin IAF101 • 21 hours ago −
Pakistan’s nuclear weapons are well-protected and are under tight security arrangements, having well-coordinated command and control system, a deliberate propaganda campaign against the safety of these weapons keeps on going particularly by the US and India. Besides, some European countries also make much hue and cry regarding the safety of Pakistan’s nuclear assets by ignoring Indian illegal proliferation. It indicates their double standards in the Sub-continent. Nonetheless, Pak ‘nukes’ are more secure than those of India.

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 20 Apr 2013 21:15

We need to go deep into the "Sunil Tripathi issue. Who started that rumor? There must be a trail in twitter/news source. We need to know which Indians celebrated and gloated on that fake news. I remember one was taslima. Could some one repost that tweet image.
2ndly there was tweet posted of some islamist thugs such as Owaisi and his chamchas celebrating the attack,. Please repost that tweet as well. That image needs to be publicized sent to US embassy in India/FBI as persons that need to be watched.
The 1st thread moved very quickly to probe well into these two issues.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 20 Apr 2013 21:27

disha wrote: Yep, US is totally stupid, spending money behind this "great games". It is super power gone to head (within first 10 years of winning the WWII). Anyway - we do remember Robin Raphael! What was she?

I don't understand why it is stupid yaar? Count the number of Russian soldiers died in Afghan and chechan wars. It is about 35,000 total. That kind of stuff is a big achievement against a potential adversary. Great dividends for the strategy in total.

With respect to India, it is screwed for ever with a Nuclear blackmail from a Islamic terror nation and willingly helpful sympathetic Muslim population who also are part of the ruling power structure in big way.

Calling American strategy as stupid, idiotic etc is foolish. Calling it as adharmic or amoral is nalayakism at its height

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Rajiv Lather · Post by **Rajiv Lather** » 20 Apr 2013 21:31

Muppalla wrote:
Rajiv Lather wrote:I know there are many American supporters here, and many are residing in the United States. But it is a fact that what United States and Britain have tried to do to Russia via the Chechen route, the same has been done by them for so many decades to India via Kashmir.

The biggest supporters and financiers of the Sunni Islamic Terrorism are United States and Saudi Arabia. And it seems, the Americans haven't learnt their lessons as yet...
You are right but you allegation that those who are residing in US are supporting US in doing such thing is free wheeling allegation which has become too common on this forum...

Your interpretation, made no such allegation !

MurthyB · Post by **MurthyB** » 20 Apr 2013 21:34

So these kids are described as wonderful while they were non practicing. Only when the older one got pious, grew the beard, started praying, did things go boom. Hmm, a real puzzler as to what causes this type of thing.

Joker will likely get away easily. He is a US citizen. Already they denied him Miranda which won't fly with the left. He can blame it all on bro. Other than that his actions are no worse than that of Holmes the Aurora shooter. Domestic murder.

Bade · Post by **Bade** » 20 Apr 2013 21:43

Anantha,Though injustice has been done to the Tripathi family, it is not clear if Sunil is an Indian citizen or even an OCI. I do not see how the US embassy needs to get involved in this internal matter of the US.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 20 Apr 2013 21:53

Tarek Fateh is hitting out at the doctrine of Jihad:

Tarek Fatah ‏@TarekFatah 12h:
Boston's Muslim leaders condemn bombing suspects, but do they condemn Doctrine of Jihad? Absolutely not. – CNN http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/1 ... -suspects/ …
View summary

IbniFarid IbniFarid ‏@IbniFarid 12h:
@TarekFatah jihad is not to kill incident people in streets. What they did is absolute teror and we muslims are condemning this terrorism
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Tarek Fatah Tarek Fatah ‏@TarekFatah 12h:
How deceiving @IbniFarid. Do u believe I am some bleeding-heart guilt-ridden white liberal to buy yr spin on Jihad? Renoucne Jihad. Period
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IbniFarid IbniFarid ‏@IbniFarid 11h:
@TarekFatah so read some more to understand,what is jihad and qital and harb? Don't learn jihad from Tvs
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Tarek Fatah Tarek Fatah ‏@TarekFatah 11h:
Spare the drivel about 'Jihad' @IbniFarid. We both know jihad is Muslim holy war 2 conquer rest of non-Muslim world. Time 4 us 2 stop lying

https://twitter.com/TarekFatah

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 20 Apr 2013 22:03

good point bade.. it is more likely that he is an US citizen.. but being an OCI can be the only way Indian embassy can do something. Besides, their parents need to take it up first. We can only discuss, what people did to them... and what they can do, if we have more information. but, like said, if the family is planning to keep quite,meaning they are engaging the lawyers.. and this is big million moolah bucks to make for the lawyers.. so, one has to be very careful how you are playing part in making the lawyers making big bucks... freedom/citizenship/humanity apart.

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 20 Apr 2013 22:14

^^^Acharya, wrong thread?

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 20 Apr 2013 22:16

There is no credible source indicating any connection to TSP, too bad.

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 20 Apr 2013 22:21

Bade wrote:Anantha,Though injustice has been done to the Tripathi family, it is not clear if Sunil is an Indian citizen or even an OCI. I do not see how the US embassy needs to get involved in this internal matter of the US.

Bade
I was talking about Owaisi who has a tweet celebrating the Boston bombing and his followers agreeing to him, this needs to be publicized and taken to public, at the minimum via you tube, and max to US authorities in India.

The Sunil Tripathi issue needs to be probed and I guess should be taken to Internal security thread as it exposes several muslims, leftists of India who have egg on their face now.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 20 Apr 2013 22:24

pressure cooker bomb itself is pakistani technology, connection will come up if the second suspect survives but information released by FBI will be controlled unless a video surfaces from no where

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 20 Apr 2013 22:28

Anantha wrote:We need to go deep into the "Sunil Tripathi issue. Who started that rumor? There must be a trail in twitter/news source. We need to know which Indians celebrated and gloated on that fake news. I remember one was taslima. Could some one repost that tweet image.
2ndly there was tweet posted of some islamist thugs such as Owaisi and his chamchas celebrating the attack,. Please repost that tweet as well. That image needs to be publicized sent to US embassy in India/FBI as persons that need to be watched.
The 1st thread moved very quickly to probe well into these two issues.

So why should anybody want an outside agency to monitor Indian nationals? His recent remarks has already pushed him into national limelight, and probably the radar of Indian agencies. For all warts and pimples of the Indian system, Indian babus, cops and intelligence do a pretty good job - at least considering the existing system.

So why?

This dhaaga looks like more an anti-US or mock-US dhaaga than some follow up thread.

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 20 Apr 2013 22:31

Anantha,

This article has great details on who started and particularly who propagated it. It was propagated by Anonymous' Twitter account.

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/a ... er/275155/

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On a separate note, no one would have guessed that Taslima was Indian. If she is Indian then we have an enemy within us.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 20 Apr 2013 22:39

nvishal wrote:Two chechen brothers... I could have never guessed it.

Earlier I thought that a group or a gang was responsible but now its clear that this was an isolated incident. Nothing more to dig here folks.

The elder brother had a dream one night about how to get bomb materials in the USA.l The Youngerbrother suddenly got the cooker idea while cooking Apple Pie in a pressure cooker. 16,000 of the 17,000 Boston runners had been nasty to the two boys the previous year and laughed at and falsely accused them of not having brushed their teeth.

That's it.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 20 Apr 2013 22:49

SwamyG wrote:This dhaaga looks like more an anti-US or mock-US dhaaga than some follow up thread.

SwamyG garu, why shouldn't US be criticized for not being able to control their own double game and there is blow back? US citizens should and would question their own Govt.'s policies. Others criticizing US policies is not going to make much of a difference to the powers that be, because they are not their constituency and thus no skin off their nose.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 20 Apr 2013 23:09

I think there are plenty of budding jihadis on the FBI watchlist, being waited on until they do something which they can be charged with. merely listening to some preachers on youtube is not a crime nor is ranting about anti-america without any acts on the ground. there was another case in 2012 of a jihadi in chicago caught after he tried to detonate a bomb next to cafe. a FBI agent pretending to a fellow holy warrior had supplied him inert material for the device.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013 ... leged-plot

FBI agents are always on islamist bulletin boards showing AoA, mashallah death to america and so on...hoping to honeytrap people

maybe these two went from club player to IPL T20 unexpectedly.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 20 Apr 2013 23:15

The rules for the conduct of Jihad are pretty much decentralized. A central organization like AQ, LeT can play a hand for more sophisticated kinds of ops, but for someone who has started having pious moments there is enough on the web to do a DIY Jihadi operation almost anywhere.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 20 Apr 2013 23:18

Healthy criticisms is usually good; even ridicules/insults can be factors to reform & motivate societies and countries. However sometimes the critics and mockers need to be gently reminded. And then of course there is always the under current tension between maasa based BRFites vs Rest of BRFites. The desi BRFite every now and then take a jab at the BRFites living in maasa - they skirt around the bushes never hitting them directly

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Singha · Post by **Singha** » 20 Apr 2013 23:27

seems like younger bro was able to climb out of the boat on his own per this pic. so how come he is in critical condition on arrival in hospital? maybe they thrashed him real good on the ride in the ambulance. pic does not indicate a critically wounded guy from loss of blood. or maybe they wanted him in ICU for truth serum sessions rather than sitting under judicial custody in lockup under media glare...being listed in critical condition inside a hospital in lockdown mode automatically gives them more time and room to pump him full of serum and suspend his rights as well.