World Chess Champion Anand defends his title.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 12 Nov 2013 09:02

Given that Anand expressed regret at the result of the game two and quoted saying it should be getting interesting, it is very likely that today's game will progress well past middle game, into the end game and potentially a non-draw result.

I echo RahulM's sentiments but a draw in today's game is also OK.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 12 Nov 2013 09:17

negi, cfe http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general ... nship-2013

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 12 Nov 2013 09:22

In the 2nd game, I thought it was Anand's win until the queen exchange. Frankly, I didn't understand the queen exchange move by Anand when he could have gone for a check-mate using the queen and camel(We, deshi amateurs, used to call bishop as camel and rook is called elephant while Queen is called Minister. I still like to use that terminology

).

I thought the queen exchange move by Anand was bad move. A really bad move...

So far, it seems like a the matches are not showing any great 'genius'. And in one of the post-match interviews, Anand or carlsen said that they didn't want to play blind(meaning, they will only play the moves that have already been played earlier and which they have read and by-hearted). Thats seems like a let down to me...

Infact, playing chess by by-hearting the scenarios seems counter-productive to me. And if the players only repeat the same moves that are played earlier, then how will new tactics develop? I thought the allure of the chess is to think and develop tactics.... not by-heart the moves and execute them...

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 12 Nov 2013 09:33

in bengal deshi sytem bishop = gaj (hathi) and rook=nouka (boat/ship)
in original chaturang, bishop=gaj and rook = rath (chariot)

incidentally, bishop=slon (elephant) in russki. I guess the oonth thing is influence from satranj.

edit : check out parimarjan negi's blog, it's hilarious.
http://parimarjan.in/blog/

Yayavar · Post by **Yayavar** » 12 Nov 2013 11:17

JohneeG : agree...my thoughts too.

Also, I too learnt it as oonth/camel, haathi, raja and mantri.

RahulM: Isn't Shatranj is from Chaturang ? ie. Chaturang had the 'chess' version too (not with dice, and with the 2 player placement).

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 12 Nov 2013 13:53

viv ji, yes. but there was backwards movement of persian shatranj influencing Indian chess as well during medieval period.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 Nov 2013 15:42

Anand has a speck of Vivadhi (vibhuti) on his forehead. Waiting for articles and blogs to give their bhashyas.

Slight advantage for White.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 Nov 2013 15:57

I like GM Ramesh's commentary. Tania is better than the other dud. Marten, did you hear what Ramesh said about that move and Carlsen?

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 12 Nov 2013 16:02

very hard to say right now. the GM's at chessdom think MC surrendered a bit of an advantage by not playing Qc1 before Bb4, because now anand can attack the white knight.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 Nov 2013 16:05

http://chennai2013.fide.com/anand-carls ... ommentary/

Ramesh explained Carlsen's style. Carlsen does not hesitate to bring back his pieces, after he has achieved its plan. In non-concrete positions, Ramesh learned from abhijit khunte is that it is okay to move forward and come back later. Susan Polgar does not understand Qc1 at all. Ramesh seems to have read Carlsen's mind. He is laughing explaining. Susan is almost lost. Ramesh thinks Carlsen likes to play non direct chess, cat and mouse games. While Anand likes direct games.

Ramesh thinks Anand is okay now, but like Carlsen's play so far. Susan thinks Carlsen is not so good.

Saar, get earphones for the next game.

I like Anand's advanced pawn.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 12 Nov 2013 16:15

15...a5 might be a good move now.

a4 is not a bad move but the order could have been better.

>> Saar, get earphones for the next game.

directed at me ? nah, prefer reading. that way you can do other things too.

I was thinking MC would go for a5.

how ?

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 Nov 2013 16:21

Man, I love the close up shots of Anand's face. I sometimes apply small speck of vibhuti like Anand. I am going to develop a man crush pretty soon.

Susan prefers Anand's position now.

No that was @ Marten, can you share the link where you are reading commentary? It will be useful for longer games.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 12 Nov 2013 16:23

GM gujrathi successfully predicted Anand's move. b6

http://www.chessdom.com/world-chess-cha ... 2013-live/
http://www.chessdom.com/carlsen-anand-2013-live/

wow, they had a skirmish. I would go for 17...f5 but hey what do I know.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 12 Nov 2013 16:32

that was in the next move saar, in that move he could only go upto a4.

methinks anand missed a trick by not going for a5, allowing MC to barge in. c6 position is the key.

edit : vishy moves kingside rook to support c6. I hope MC doesn't eye the kingside and go for bishop exchange.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 12 Nov 2013 16:44

as I feared MC moved queen kingside to build pressure.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 Nov 2013 16:46

The dood and Tania are not good for Anand. Bring Ramesh and Susan back in. The dood is clearly a fan of MC.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 12 Nov 2013 17:05

moving towards another draw unless someone goofs up. last chance for anand to pile some pressure might be h5, Bh6

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 Nov 2013 17:16

Wow. Now they prefer black. A few moves ago, they preferred white. As long as queens are on the board, Anand is in.

Tania, finds a 3 move repetition. How cute. I mean she is cute.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 Nov 2013 17:23

Highly highly impressed with Ramesh and Tania.

So Anand is better now. Will he go far a draw?

Wow, he did not go for the easy draw. Hope it does not end up being costly.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 12 Nov 2013 17:29

hehe, is MC's queen a rook now ? sure behaves like one.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 12 Nov 2013 17:31

the c6 pawn is en prise.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 12 Nov 2013 17:35

he moved it immediately.

durvasa · Post by **durvasa** » 12 Nov 2013 17:40

all i want is this to happen!

negi · Post by **negi** » 12 Nov 2013 17:40

SwamyG wrote:http://chennai2013.fide.com/anand-carls ... ommentary/

Ramesh explained Carlsen's style. Carlsen does not hesitate to bring back his pieces, after he has achieved its plan. In non-concrete positions, Ramesh learned from abhijit khunte is that it is okay to move forward and come back later. Susan Polgar does not understand Qc1 at all. Ramesh seems to have read Carlsen's mind. He is laughing explaining. Susan is almost lost. Ramesh thinks Carlsen likes to play non direct chess, cat and mouse games. While Anand likes direct games.

Ramesh thinks Anand is okay now, but like Carlsen's play so far. Susan thinks Carlsen is not so good.

Saar, get earphones for the next game.

I like Anand's advanced pawn.

That is how Topalov played until last the WC against Anand, Anand himself said that Topalov made openings and to his surprise stuck to them which was against his pattern of play until the WC. Anand's prep did not work on those occasions. This is the beauty of modern game you prepare so much for another person's style of play and openings only to start from scratch when the other guy comes up with a new plan.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 12 Nov 2013 17:41

~~@Marten Bc8 would have immediately led to rook exchange.~~ ignore.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 Nov 2013 17:45

Muruga.....a draw would rattle Carlsen.

Anand played so quickly....

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 Nov 2013 18:04

Susan thinks Carlsen is now fighting for survival. Come on Anand , stay calm and get it done. I will take a draw, But then Carlsen would be a wounded animal. Dangerous in future games.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 12 Nov 2013 18:06

even vishy winning will make him a wounded animal

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 12 Nov 2013 18:14

Rf8 to stop that queen from moving out.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 Nov 2013 18:20

Carlsen out of woods?

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 12 Nov 2013 18:27

Carlson always looks like he is about to cry.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 12 Nov 2013 18:28

he should have played that Rf8

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 Nov 2013 18:40

Looks like a draw. Lost feed on the video from the Chennai Fide site.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 12 Nov 2013 18:50

its a draw

I think anand made some mistakes or could have won

Carlsen: It was quite scary.
Carlsen: Just happy to survive.
Carlsen: "I made a couple of misjudgments in the middle game and my position was worse. I made it worse and underestimated the plan."

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 12 Nov 2013 19:07

Carlsen - Anand (0.5 - 0.5)
Tuesday Nov 12, 2013
Location: Chennai
Carlsen continued with Reti opening second time.

1. Nf3 d5 2. g3 g6 3. c4 dxc4 4. Qa4+ Nc6 5. Bg2 Bg7 6. Nc3 e5 7. Qxc4 Nge7 8. O-O O-O 9. d3 h6 10. Bd2 Nd4 11. Nxd4 exd4 12. Ne4 c6 13. Bb4 Be6 14. Qc1 Bd5 15. a4 b6 16. Bxe7 Qxe7 17. a5 Rab8 18. Re1 Rfc8 19. axb6 axb6 20. Qf4 Rd8 21. h4 Kh7 22. Nd2 Be5 23. Qg4 h5 24. Qh3 Be6 25. Qh1 c5 26. Ne4 Kg7 27. Ng5 b5 28. e3 dxe3 29. Rxe3 Bd4 30. Re2 c4 31. Nxe6+ fxe6 32. Be4 cxd3 33. Rd2 Qb4 34. Rad1 Bxb2 35. Qf3 Bf6 36. Rxd3 Rxd3 37. Rxd3 Rd8 38. Rxd8 Bxd8 39. Bd3 Qd4 40. Bxb5 Qf6 41. Qb7+ Be7 42. Kg2 g5 43. hxg5 Qxg5 44. Bc4 h4 45. Qc7 hxg3 46. Qxg3 e5 47. Kf3 Qxg3+ 48. fxg3 Bc5 49. Ke4 Bd4 50. Kf5 Bf2 51. Kxe5 Bxg3+

Overall score after Game 3: 1.5 - 1.5

negi · Post by **negi** » 12 Nov 2013 20:10

Ok any guesses on what opening or it's variation will Anand employ in next game ?

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 12 Nov 2013 21:00

i bet Carlsen wont expect a reti from Anand

play by me that part again where the "superior" rated player would easily grind Anand to dust and walk over him easily? Oh for the record the "superior" rated Russian men and women's teams went down to "inferior" rated teams in the European championship.

there was also a series of articles by some gora Ivy League PeeChaddee on how Anand had only 8% chance at best to win against Carlsen using some statistical analysis with a pee-factor influencing things. The chap also insinuated (my interpretation) that Anand won in the past due to short matches just like in this one and also due to luck (Alekhine-Euwe) brought in for good measure as an example.

Thing is that just like the great white hunter is always the best, all others are duffers. Maybe its eccentricity, the more eccentric you are the greater are the chances that you will be called the best of the best. Fischer, Kasparov, Carlsen. But that doesnt explain Topalov.

The well mannered chaps are given such less coverage. In most press coverage in the west on the championship the focus was always on MC. Anand was just given a passing reference. In the Gelfand Vs Anand match, both were given less coverage, Gelfand getting the stick more often.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 12 Nov 2013 21:32

MC got a very lucky escape and admitted it. Anand offered the draw but MC played till the game reached the draw. MC will play till the end every game or what?

This is war now.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 12 Nov 2013 23:02

World Championship: Interview with Anand

9/26/2013 – The Russian Internet TV channel Chess TV has recorded two interview for the upcoming World Championship match. Last week we showed you the first with Norwegian challenger Magnus Carlsen; today we bring you a 23-minute interview with Viswanathan Anand in which the World Champion expresses his thoughts on the match, his chess career and life in general. Do not miss this one.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 13 Nov 2013 00:28

Rahul M wrote:he should have played that Rf8

kasparov just said the same thing on twitter.