The 2012 Olympics Thread

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 04 Aug 2012 05:02

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19119753

Olympics boxing: Entire US team out before quarter-finals

The United States men's boxing team have been eliminated from all divisions - the first time they have failed to win a boxing medal at the Olympics.

The US went to London with the biggest boxing squad but none of their nine fighters have made it to the last eight.

Welterweight Errol Spence was the last boxer to go out, losing 13-11 to India's Krishan Vikas on Friday.

"It's disappointing because we expected to come home with medals and we didn't so it's kind of a sad day," he said.

"I feel like I let down a lot of people, my family and the people that is at home."

The US hope their three female fighters can salvage some pride for a country that has won a record 48 boxing golds.

Flyweight Rau'shee Warren, who lost to France's Nordine Oubaali on Friday, said: "We still have the girls as long as they don't get any bad decisions or stuff like that."

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 04 Aug 2012 05:48

Errol Spence is Reinstated. Vikas is out.
http://www.aiba-london2012.com/index.ph ... f-bout-142

i hope atleast we don't get any Sangwan type raw deals in the future.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 04 Aug 2012 06:16

There is no play for bronze in boxing ???

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 04 Aug 2012 06:21

Krishan was penalized for 'spitting mouthguard at opponent' ? Sounds bizarre for a 3rd seed to be doing something like that - there was no mention of it in news articles earlier either .

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 04 Aug 2012 06:29

krishnan wrote:There is no play for bronze in boxing ???

No a winning quarter finalist gets a bronze if he loses the semis. The same rule applies in Wrestling.

The reason is if the boxers gets knocked out in the semis and doesn't recover in time to fight a bout for the bronze

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 04 Aug 2012 06:30

Suraj wrote:Krishan was penalized for 'spitting mouthguard at opponent' ? Sounds bizarre for a 3rd seed to be doing something like that - there was no mention of it in news articles earlier either .

there you go. i wish i had predicted it above. vikas did spit his mouthguard, but it is a stretch to say he threw it at the opponent. but AIBA is a joke. Perhaps they should send this referee home too then? India type countries never benefit from rotten systems, the only way any indians will win is if they hold RSC type superiority.
Note that I was not supportive of the original decision, but this males the olympics look like a backyard contest.

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 04 Aug 2012 06:33

Shreeman wrote:
Suraj wrote:Krishan was penalized for 'spitting mouthguard at opponent' ? Sounds bizarre for a 3rd seed to be doing something like that - there was no mention of it in news articles earlier either .
there you go. i wish i had predicted it above. vikas did spit his mouthguard, but it is a stretch to say he threw it at the opponent. but AIBA is a joke. Perhaps they should send this referee home too then? India type countries never benefit from rotten systems, the only way any indians will win is if they hold RSC type superiority.
Note that I was not supportive of the original decision, but this males the olympics look like a backyard contest.

The judge who was suspended for 5 days in that Japan bout was one of the judges in this game also

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 04 Aug 2012 06:39

Poonia qualifies for discus throw final

Bade · Post by **Bade** » 04 Aug 2012 06:53

No wonder they appealed, they just could not take the defeat handed out by Vijender. All the commentators were predicting an easy win for the American. They needed to preserve some H&D by having at least one qualify to the Quarter finals.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 04 Aug 2012 06:54

I hope the Indian delegation appeals to have the 2-pt penalty for 'spitting mouthguard at opponent' rescinded . It will bring the score back to 13-13 .

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 04 Aug 2012 07:02

This is a bad. Reversing decisions 1 day later:( ee should withdraw and boycott rest of olympics.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 04 Aug 2012 07:04

Wtf. How about the other indian bozees who got screwed without their iwn fault?

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 04 Aug 2012 07:16

Even if we appeal for the spitting, They have mentioned 9 incidents of holding...so its hard to get it revoked now.

I think Vijender might be the only chance for a medal in Mens. The other two have very tough draws.

Mary Kom also has a hard draw. This is not her normal weight category. The boxers are much taller than her. Hope i proven wrong

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 04 Aug 2012 07:35

kshatriya wrote:Even if we appeal for the spitting, They have mentioned 9 incidents of holding...so its hard to get it revoked now.

I think Vijender might be the only chance for a medal in Mens. The other two have very tough draws.

Mary Kom also has a hard draw. This is not her normal weight category. The boxers are much taller than her. Hope i proven wrong

true. but lame as hell, and having a good boxer come back with a spitting penalty isnt going to do his morale much good. zero news coverage of the reversal by the way, even though it gives usa a lone survivor. even the bbc usa elimination story is still up. <sarc>frankly, they should just cancel boxing this time. will have the added benefit of denying cuba any visibility. </sarc>

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 04 Aug 2012 07:40

It is only because of our gandhian policy. All indian boxers should protest now along with Manmohan singh make it an international issue, we trained so hard despite facilities while idiot Spence gets favor.

Lets post everywhere to let them hear

sum · Post by **sum** » 04 Aug 2012 07:49

^^ So moral of story seems to be:

TFTA appeal >> SDRE appeal

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 04 Aug 2012 07:55

Exactly. We are soft everywhere war or sports

Bade · Post by **Bade** » 04 Aug 2012 08:01

The big boys always have their say, that is the real world. That is what China tries hard to do, to break into this club. If we want to be taken seriously, then our intent to win at any cost should also be clear and evident. USA and China are trying to outdo each other in the medals tally. There is nothing more than this. At the individual level yes, the athletes have their own journeys and hard work, but the larger picture is what drives the politics like in any arena sports or otherwise.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 04 Aug 2012 08:05

So make a big issue about colonists and imperialists are in hold if Olympics thus we need to boycott get all the poor countries together

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 04 Aug 2012 08:07

Strength respects Strength... Other than BCCI most of our other sporting entities act like Sissies.... I'm now glad we atleast have a BCCI

Bade · Post by **Bade** » 04 Aug 2012 08:10

Boycotting does not get you much, we need to learn to shaft them back where it hurts. We need to put our money and effort where our mouth is. PRC does exactly that. We are yet to learn from such examples.

nelson · Post by **nelson** » 04 Aug 2012 08:37

Vikash' bout result got overturned.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 04 Aug 2012 08:38

What a shower of a decision. While the bout may have been too close to call, the difference between Sangwan's and this appeal is striking. Apart from money and competing well we need some administrator like Dalmia who can do brinkmanship for our team.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 04 Aug 2012 10:07

It would be great to see a serious effort on more individual/doubles sports that need minimum infra that we don't already have a presence in:

* beach volleyball
* canoe/kayak
* cycling
* judo
* rowing (just 1 guy now?)
* taekwondo
* track and field

Beach volleyball only needs a sand filled pit, colorful shorts and dark glasses it looks like. We have plenty of people who can do that. Don't know if our girls will oblige though.

Given that they originated in India, it seems we should have more judo and taekwondo medal prospects. I see a lot of interest and tournaments going on even in small cities, at least in the Northeast. The Judo Federation of India was formed in 1965 and we had a Manipuri girl get a medal in the 2010 Judo World Cup. We got a taekwondo bronze in AG 2002.

One sport I'd really like to see grow in India is fencing, a Kshatriya sport with snob appeal. The kits are not that expensive and a lot of the early training is done with cheaper non-electronic gear. May not be a village level sport but can definitely be handled by even our B and C cities and towns.

I don't understand our lack of success in soccer and track & field. Again, soccer has millions of crazy fans all over the country and we see kids running up and down maidans in every village playing it. Similar thing with track and field. Is it our nutrition or something? Wonder what happened to the talk some time ago about the Siddi people in the south who had Afro origins and who may prove to be good in running.

Meanwhile, gora log are bringing in more opportunities to favour themselves--golf and rugby will be part of Rio 2016.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 04 Aug 2012 12:38

These Olympics should have been boycotted on principle, once Dow's sponshorship was upheld.

sum · Post by **sum** » 04 Aug 2012 13:51

^^ Just as i had forgotten about the Sangwan incident ( still dunno why that really upset me so much), the $%@^# overturn a similar type of result, only this time TFTA US was the appeal-er.

Disgusting. Wish even Sangwan had got such a 2nd shot since he looked really good for a medal.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 04 Aug 2012 14:44

shagun chowdhury joint 9th after round 1 in trap qual.
http://www.london2012.com/shooting/even ... index.html

James B · Post by **James B** » 04 Aug 2012 14:50

In fact, Vikas did spit his mouthguard deliberately. They are saying its 4 point penalty for spitting out mouthguard deliberately.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 04 Aug 2012 14:54

saw vikas's match. he did not look good. chances of him medaling were not good and it didn't appear to me that he won round 3. so no disappointment here.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 04 Aug 2012 15:21

per times now, a duplicate guy is in london as IOC gen secy, while the real guy is very much in India. the sports ministry is going to investigate this. they showed pix of both who look very different!

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/lond ... 11290.html

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 04 Aug 2012 15:56

Sudha Singh just started her 3000m steeplechase heat 1.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 04 Aug 2012 16:04

shagun chaudhary shot an unbelievably disastrous 17 in round 2 and is placed bottom.

Hariprasad · Post by **Hariprasad** » 04 Aug 2012 16:14

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/olympics-ind ... 83-73.html

Hariprasad · Post by **Hariprasad** » 04 Aug 2012 16:16

It doesn't look good for shagun chaudhary. She is placed last while the first two player have perfect scores. I don't think she can crawl back in

Ardeshir · Post by **Ardeshir** » 04 Aug 2012 16:17

Suraj wrote:Krishan was penalized for 'spitting mouthguard at opponent' ? Sounds bizarre for a 3rd seed to be doing something like that - there was no mention of it in news articles earlier either .

I saw the bout, and he did spit it out, ostensibly to gain some time when the onslaught from the American guy got a bit too much. He was too defensive, but more importantly, his defensive technique wasn't up to the mark.

My problem with this appeal is not whether he had a chance to win further or not, but the different standards applied.

Hariprasad · Post by **Hariprasad** » 04 Aug 2012 16:23

Shagun choudhary is out. There is no way she can come back now.

Hariprasad · Post by **Hariprasad** » 04 Aug 2012 17:07

shyamd wrote:Anyone got a link to Vijender's fight from yesterday ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKO-pVxb ... g-logo-xit

Don · Post by **Don** » 04 Aug 2012 17:17

WTF ?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/olympics-- ... india.html

Charles Robinson

One billion vs. one: Michael Phelps' one-man medal haul could match all of India

15 hours ago

LONDON – Saturday will be the first time in his life that Michael Phelps has managed to catch 1.24 billion people from behind. Move over, India. You’re about to have company on the all-time medal podium.

With Phelps a virtual lock to capture his 22nd career medal in the 400 medley relay on Saturday night, he’ll tie with India at 22 on the all-time podium. That’s right, Phelps has accomplished as much in his Olympic career as all the athletes in India’s history combined – men and women. Not bad for one guy vs. one billion plus.

Not that India should feel bad. When Phelps hits the 22 mark, he’ll move into a tie for 54th place on the all-time country podium. As in, 54th in the total medal count of every … single … country … in the modern Olympics. In forever. At least India can claim a tie. Countries like Morocco (21), Thailand (21), Lithuania (16), Chile (13), and Venezuela (12) are all looking up at the one-man medal machine. And while Phelps has ruled out the 2016 Games in Rio de Janeiro, Americans can take heart. He surely made the decision without the knowledge of where he stands on the all-time medal board. Ireland and Nigeria are sitting at 23 … and they’ve really been asking for it.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 04 Aug 2012 17:18

usain bolt won his heat in 100m @ 10:08..for all the exertion he did made it look like a jog or something ... yohan blake and asafa powell coming out shortly. all the 3 americans bailey, gay and gatlin won their heats.

3 vs 3 - its a cagematch and grudge between jamaica and khan. greene and carl lewis have been trash talking a bit lately.

asafa just won his heat in 10:04

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 04 Aug 2012 17:25

lashawn merrit the 400m and 4x400 defending champion pulled up in heat with a unresolved hamstring injury:

"I got out and got around the curve and started to feel it," he said. "l started to move a little bit more, and I still felt it. I thought if I push it, I can really, really injure myself. And I have a long career ahead of me."

And so ended a long, winding journey for the 26-year-old Merritt of Suffolk, Va., between Olympiads.

After winning two gold medals in Beijing - the 400 and the 4x400 relay - and the 2009 world championship, he tested positive for a banned substance and accepted a two-year ban.

Merritt said that the failed drug tests resulted from his use of an over-the-counter penis enlargement product

Eventually, his suspension was reduced to 21 months, and he regained eligibility before last year's world championships, where he took a silver medal in the 400.