India steals Pakistani jokes
Afzal Rehman writes in Dunya that Pakistan has the best comedians. India steals Pakistani jokes, but Indian comedians make one cry, instead of making one laugh. Punjabi is the ideal language for comedy.
We may not know if Ms. Dina [Wadia] retorted by asking, "Papa, why Ruttie, a Parsi when there were millions of Muslim women in India ?".Jhujar wrote:Failure is a word unknown to me,” said Muhammad Ali Jinnah. . . . in 1939 when he parted ways with Dina, his only daughter, over her decision to marry Neville Wadia, a Parsi by faith. “What about the millions of Muslim men in India?” he asked Dina.[/b]
Abdul Qadir Looni, secretary general of Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (Nazriati),
Ex ISI chief Hameed Gul's son Abdullah Gul states in Ausaf that he has vowed to wage jihad against obscenity and his enemy is the TV channel Urdu One, which is airing immoral Turkish plays that don't reflect the Turkish culture. They are corrupting the youth with semi-nude Turkish plays.
Leader of Opposition in the Rajya Sabha Arun Jaitley called for suspending dialogue with Pakistan.
"We need to revisit the policy of dialogue with Pakistan which has crossed all limits. All dialogues with them should be stopped," BJP's Jaitley said.
Jaitley said "if India can be kicked around in this manner, there is something seriously wrong about our external policy". He added: "We need to relook at it."
Jaitley said Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has been magnanimous in saying that he was willing to walk an extra mile with Pakistan. "Forget about walking an extra mile, we need to stop walking with them," he added.
I recently wrote that the resiliency of the Pakistani people prevents the country from falling apart
Increasingly, however, I fear I’m not being hopeful — only hopelessly naïve.
In short, Pakistan is a nation where law enforcement — and the political leadership from which it flows — is sorely missing in action.
credible commentators now compare Pakistan to Nazi Germany, and suggest it could eventually resemble genocidal Rwanda
It appears that Pakistan’s perils are too ingrained and structural to be expunged
Increasingly, I fear that only two scenarios can prevent Pakistan from one day succumbing to Balkanisation or even utter chaos – and they are neither likely nor desirable.
But there is hope for a non-revolution. Why?The other scenario is a full-scale revolution that brings down the Pakistani state and its institutions as we’ve known them.
Pakistan is too fragmented to experience any type of mass movement, much less a revolution.
72 Insha-allahs!!So, I’m left with the troubling thought that Pakistan is edging inevitably closer to an abyss
Dear Sir, all we need to do is reverse the brain drain. Look around you..from US, Canada to Middle East Pakistanis have contributed immensely to the economies of their adapted nations. Ask yourself where would NASA, Google, IBM or US Healthcare be without Pakistani engineers or doctors ? Where would the UK NHS and investment banks be without Pakistani physicians and bankers ? Where would scandinavian economies be without Pakistani immigrants ? Inshaallah, we’ll reverse this brain drain soon, and not just that, we need to attract talent from other ummah nations too. We can then truly be a superpower instead of just a islamic-nuclear superpower ( no mean feat that ).
In BRf, we equated Pakistan to Nazi Germany almost a decade back with valid comparisons. Why this sudden realization by this think-tank analyst ? Has it got anything to do with attacks on a particular Ahl-e-Kitab religion ?anupmisra wrote:So, here's one more pay-per-view "think-tank" flunky who has given up on the land of the pure. Openly calls for a revolution. Yes, a revolution!! Looks like someone's check was never in the mail.
An optimist’s hope begins to fade
by Michael Kugelman (Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars).credible commentators now compare Pakistan to Nazi Germany . . .
Only because PA didn't care to do a coup as their president is a eunuch anyway -- not unlike someone on our side too.SSridhar wrote:TSP Parliament makes history by completing its term successfully for the first time in 66 years !! - DT
AoA. All'ah generally has only cruel things in store for Pakistan. So, let's wait and watch what this completion will lead TSP to.
in other words, all the attributes of the national socialist party and none of the 'benefits' of the wehrmacht...!Atri wrote:Pakistan was Nazi germany like in 1947. But then Nazis were efficient and good at something (technology, being really brilliant tactically, not in the sense we use to describe Paki downhill skiing). Apart from mimicking the Nazi urge for minority extermination, Pakistan is really good for nothing. Pakistan, now is partially Somalia.. There is no comparison really.. Pak is Pak.. that is that..
A coup now a days is out of fashion in the land of the pure for the reason that FoDP would stop funding the terrorist nation and it's true rulers the instant 'democratically elected' GoP is pull down or pushed away.Only because PA didn't care to do a coup as their president is a eunuch anyway -- not unlike someone on our side too.
Jhujar wrote:http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-92269 ... pat:-Imran
March 23 rally will be 'battle of Panipat': Imraan
LAHORE: Chairman Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI), Imran Khan Thursday said that his next rally at Minar-e-Pakistan on March 23 will not just be a public meeting but 'a battle of Panipat'.
"This battle will decided whether a change will come or the loot and plunder will continue," Imran Khan said while addressing a gathering at the inauguration of Insaf Students Federation's campaign office here.
The PTI Chief claimed that he was well-prepared for the upcoming contest. No matter if the empires are neutral or partial, he said, he would be able inflict a defeat on his rivals.He said PTI is up against those who have looted money, police and Patwaris on their side. "It comes down to passion/ ideology versus (power of) money," he said.Imran Khan exhorted his workers and supporters to spare no effort towards bringing about a change in the country.
Indian Parliament should pass resolution condemning ethnic cleansing of hindus and sikhs from the land of the pure. This is wishful thinking considering the make up of the parliament. At least hindu organisations should mark a day in the calendar every year to remember tens of millions of hindus/sikhs/buddists wiped out of their 10000 year old ancestral homes in pakjab.Sanku wrote:http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/af ... 35491.html
Afzal Guru resolution: End dialogue with Pakistan, demands Arun Jaitley
Leader of Opposition in the Rajya Sabha Arun Jaitley called for suspending dialogue with Pakistan.
"We need to revisit the policy of dialogue with Pakistan which has crossed all limits. All dialogues with them should be stopped," BJP's Jaitley said.
Jaitley said "if India can be kicked around in this manner, there is something seriously wrong about our external policy". He added: "We need to relook at it."
Jaitley said Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has been magnanimous in saying that he was willing to walk an extra mile with Pakistan. "Forget about walking an extra mile, we need to stop walking with them," he added.
Richard Dart, 29, admitted plotting a terror attack in Royal Wootton Bassett after receiving training at camps in Pakistan
Richard Dart, who has changed his name to Salahuddin al Britani,
Since then he has paid his dues and asked for forgiveness at Ajmer Sharief. All is well. Onto the next scandal.Anujan wrote:^^^
This is tied to the murky Rental power projects in which the current PM of Pakistan is involved somehow. He is called "Rental Raja" for a good reason
Gerard wrote:Hmm.. if Pak national bird is haram, is replacement bird needed? Trident D5 perhaps?
UN says US drones violate Pakistan's sovereignty
anupmisra wrote:Since then he has paid his dues and asked for forgiveness at Ajmer Sharief. All is well. Onto the next scandal.Anujan wrote:^^^
This is tied to the murky Rental power projects in which the current PM of Pakistan is involved somehow. He is called "Rental Raja" for a good reason
Pakistan Railways on Friday added another 10 newly built coaches in its fleet, imported from China. Addressing the inauguration ceremony, Federal Minister for Railways Haji Ghulam Ahmed Bilour said that these new coaches would help Pakistan Railways to achieve progress.
The minister said that these coaches have the capacity to run at the speed of 160 km per hour but due to the dilapidated track it would run at 120 km per hour.
He said that every government behaved discriminatory treatment to Pakistan Railways otherwise the railways could have turned into profit-oriented entity.
“If the government would approve these seven projects of Pakistan Railways in 2009, the organization would have earn profit,” {usual false bravardo minus any logic}the minister said.
Bilour said that during the last five year, not even a single locomotive was added to the system. The minister said in 2008, an agreement for purchase of 75 locomotives was signed with China but it remained confined to words. {well bakis sign imaginary agreements all the time }
The minister said most of the MNAs have spent billion of rupees in their constituencies but Pakistan Railways received not even a penny for its uplift.
He said that the government has allocated Rs 70 billion for Benazir Income Support Programme but railways was totally ignored. Replying to a question, the minister said three projects were being run on public-private partnership including Business Train, Shalimar-1 and Shalimar-2 {why every al baki train is called shalimar no other bious islamic names to give them }.
The minister said that Pakistan Railways was carrying only one percent of the freight, adding that nine freight trains were running per week that was insufficient. Around 20 locomotives are required to increase one percent of the freight operation.
The minister also announced Rs 3000 cash award to the every employee of the Carriage Factory. To another question, the minister said that the Awami National Party would contest the general elections independently and would think about the coalition after polls. He said that there is no future of Tehreek-e-Insaf in KPK and would win hardly single seat from Punjab. Chairman Railways and other official of the ministry, division office and Chinese officials were also present on the occasion.
Pakistan Railways will receive 202 coaches against a cost of around Rs 16 billion to improve its operations and facilitate the passengers. Out of the 202 coaches of various types, Pakistan Railways has received 55 coaches in Completely Built Unit condition those are being utilized with different trains plying across the country.
He used to learn the English alphabet in grade six and had once got 13 lashes of the rod because of his failure to rote all 26 alphabets in a day. He was, however, an enthusiast. Disillusioned with his school, books and the mosque’s imam where he used to go to learn to recite the Holy Quran, our hero found solace with the mild teachings of a relative who was a devout member of the Tableeghi Jamaat (TJ).
Each morning the elderly preacher visited him and lured him with stories of paradise and lots other things. He began to ‘spend time as per the course’ in the Way of Allah by going for Serozas (three days), Ashra (10 days), Chilla (40 days) and the national and regional Tableeghi Ijtima (congregations of the Tableeghi Jamaat).On his return from ‘spending time in the path of Allah’ everything else seemed irrelevant, even repugnant to the true religion. Quibbling with the neighbouring elderly men became a daily routine as they insisted upon what they had been taught in their childhood, while our young hero was hell bent to purify the religion from heresies of the ‘false’ faith.Inspired by teachings of the Hadith, the teenager made it obligatory upon himself to cleanse the world from sins and prepare the people ‘on the path to paradise’.The piously stimulated youth had even bothered his parents to quite a degree by imposing certain etiquette as how to eat and drink. He had memorised hundreds of dua’a (prayers) as he had been told that there was a specified prayer for every act, whether it was going to the toilet or going to a bazaar. He uttered these prayers in every allegedly relevant context. For sharpening his wits, and success in school and college examinations the young boy began to rely on prayers rather than on studies.
Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, the self-confessed leader of the banned outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba, may think that Pakistan is the best Islamic nation for the Bollywood star, Shahrukh Khan to move to, but it is India that is arguably the best Muslim country today. Muslims in India enjoy complete political and religious liberty, a free legislative environment to undertake economic and educational initiatives, a vibrant television media and cinema that teach liberal coexistence, and access to a vast number of universities and institutes of modern education. There is absolutely no Muslim country that offers such a vast array of freedoms to its people.India is able to offer these freedoms to its citizens because it is a successful democracy. It was good for India to lose the 1857 war; if the British had lost, Indians would have continued to be governed by kings and nawabs, and under shari’a courts that existed during the Mughal era.English language that opened doorway to enlightenment and scientific education; and a civil service that treated everyone as Indians rather than Muslims, Hindus or Christians. Muslims in India enjoy these freedoms because India is a thriving democracy, unlike Pakistan that chose a discriminatory constitution, barring its own citizens from holding top positions such as the president of Pakistan because they are Hindus or Christians. Over the past half century, hundreds of millions of Dalits and women have found political empowerment and social freedoms in Indian democracy.
Religion cannot be a good model of governance for modern times because it fails to imagine situations in which non-Muslim citizens could be trusted to govern a Muslim country. Conversely, democracies trust their citizens irrespective of their faith. In a democracy like India, any citizen could compete to be the elected ruler. As democracy matures, India has appointed its Muslim citizens to top positions, currently Hamid Ansari as vice president, Salman Khurshid as foreign minister, Justice Altamas Kabir as Chief Justice, and Syed Asif Ibrahim as the chief of the Intelligence Bureau. It is also true that Muslims lag behind in India’s collective life, but this is because they are under the influence of orthodox ulema or because Muslim politicians fail to imagine themselves as leaders of all Indians. A Muslim politician will be the country's prime minister the day Indian Muslims begin to view themselves as leaders of all Indians and not only of Muslims, much like Barack Obama who imagined himself as a leader not only of blacks, but of all Americans.Saeed and his cohorts must bear in mind that terrorism that affects Muslims in India originates from Pakistan: the jihad in Kashmir through the 1990s or the attacks by Indian Mujahideen collaborating with their controllers in Pakistan. Like any country, India has its own share of extremist Hindus as well as Islamic and naxalite militants, but the courts are taking care of them.
Indian democracy is a model for all Islamic countries. It is the only country where Muslims have experienced democracy solidly for more than half a century; the other countries where Muslims have had some democratic experience are Indonesia and Turkey but their experiences have been limited to just a few decades. Democracies trust their citizens and are accountable to them. Democracies also bring freedom and economic prosperity for their people. In his book, Development as Freedom, Nobel laureate Amartya Sen demonstrated that famines have occurred only in countries governed under authoritarianism while freedom available to people in democracies has ensured economic welfare of their entire populations. Indian democracy has a large Muslim population, about the same as in Pakistan. As democracy matures and economy prospers, Muslims in India are beginning to benefit from a sea of economic and educational opportunities opening before them.
Islamic and authoritarian countries like Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and North Korea do not trust their own people. Islamic terrorists, jihadists like Hafiz Saeed and other Taliban-like Islamists think of defending their religions and ideologies rather than the interests and welfare of their people. It is due to such thinking that 180 million people of Pakistan are today literally buried under the weight of a failed education system, a rapidly collapsing Pakistani economy that is forcing business leaders to move their money to countries such Sri Lanka, lawlessness that makes common Pakistanis insecure in their own homes and a future that fails to offer hope. The Inter-Services Intelligence, a friend of Saeed that imagines itself as the ideological guardian of the Islamic state of Pakistan, could do a favour by trusting the Pakistani people and letting them decide their own course of life and governance.
There are elements of imperialism, or rather neo-imperialism in the episode, for though the community whose colony was burnt belonged to an oppressed section of society, they are co-religionists of the US majority, who are Christians. It should not be forgotten that the conversion of the sweepers, who had Dalit status in their original Hindu religion, converted to Christianity in the Raj. An important part of minorities living in Pakistan was the treatment minorities had always received under Islam, which was favourable. There were two things not taken into account. First, there had to be an Islamic state, which was ruled by Islam in its entirety. If allowed to take bits and pieces as it wishes what is to stop it rejecting the lesson of tolerance? That is the defect of the Indian solution, which is to propagate secularism.
That secularism depends on the majority in the legislature. What if, as happened in India in 1996, Hindu extremists are elected to power? While Hindus may shrug their shoulders, while abandoning their so-called secularism, a Muslim cannot abandon non-Muslims because there are specific commands on their treatment. The second element is that there is supposed to have been an accord concluded, in which a Muslim conqueror grants the non-Muslims a zimma (accord) that is why non-Muslims are known as zimmis or ahluzzima (the people of the zimma). The Christians of Pakistan would be governed by the terms of whatever zimma was granted at the time of the entry of the Muslims into the subcontinent.
That zimma cannot include the right to blaspheme. Nor can it include any Muslim right to allow arson. It cannot include anything in contradiction of the Quran and Sunnah. There is a general consensus, including among Christians, that both the alleged blasphemer and the arsonists must be tried and punished. Blasphemy of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) is not allowed. However, the prevention is to be achieved by a state, not individuals.
Sri Lankans seem to have a death wish.Jhujar wrote:
http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?pa ... 2013_pg3_5
a rapidly collapsing Pakistani economy that is forcing business leaders to move their money to countries such Sri Lanka,
my head spins...First, there had to be an Islamic state, which was ruled by Islam in its entirety. If allowed to take bits and pieces as it wishes what is to stop it rejecting the lesson of tolerance? That is the defect of the Indian solution,
That article should not even have been posted on here. That is a rabid Islamic extremist writing the article and on BRF 25,000 educated Indians will read it because we have linked it on here. Here is a summary of what he says:Gus wrote:my head spins...First, there had to be an Islamic state, which was ruled by Islam in its entirety. If allowed to take bits and pieces as it wishes what is to stop it rejecting the lesson of tolerance? That is the defect of the Indian solution,
so pak is tolerant nation and india is not. is that the actual argument he is making
This is called madrassa logicGus wrote:my head spins...First, there had to be an Islamic state, which was ruled by Islam in its entirety. If allowed to take bits and pieces as it wishes what is to stop it rejecting the lesson of tolerance? That is the defect of the Indian solution,
so pak is tolerant nation and india is not. is that the actual argument he is making
Yes, they will realize this when suddenly one day Pakis start claiming that all Sri Lankan progress is because of Pakistani investment and they are entitled to this and that.shiv wrote:Sri Lankans seem to have a death wish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dina_JinnahSSridhar wrote: We may not know if Ms. Dina [Wadia] retorted by asking, "Papa, why Ruttie, a Parsi when there were millions of Muslim women in India ?".
Jinnah was as bigotted as anybody else from his religion in spite of attempts to portray him otherwise. He might have had a partiality for certain beverages and food items banned by Islam, he might have not known his prayers, he might never have fasted or gone on Umrah or Hajj etc. But, he was not free from bigotry.
Dina's relationship with her father became strained when Dina expressed her desire to marry a Parsi-born Indian Neville Wadia. Jinnah, a Muslim, tried to dissuade her, but failed. Mahommedali Currim Chagla, who was Jinnah's assistant at the time, recalls: "Jinnah, in his usual imperious manner, told her that there were millions of Muslim boys in India, and she could have anyone she chose. Reminding her father that his wife (Dina's mother Rattanbai), had also been a non-Muslim, a Parsi also coincidently, the young lady replied: 'Father, there were millions of Muslim girls in India. Why did you not marry one of them?' And he replied that, 'She became a Muslim'".
Have you all been following the articles of this guy? Pakka deep state fellow. He once wrote an article titled "Why Pakistan should apologize to Bangladesh" where he went on to make a case for the exact opposite by blaming Bengalis. Here he is pissed off that army let the civilian government run for 4 years by not conducting any coups. Question is whether there are enough people in deep state who feel the sameBy Muhammad Ali Ehsan
Even a couple of weeks back he had written an article along similar lines.LAHORE:
Several Christian families fled their homes in Shibli Town on Friday in anticipation of a mob attack after accusations surfaced over the desecration of a mosque’s ablution area.
There are about 70 houses in the Christian locality of Shibli Town, where Naseer Ahmed, a prayer leader of Jamia Masjid Al Hajveri, accused a Christian boy of entering the mosque and urinating at the place designated for ablution purposes on Wednesday.
The prayer leader beat him, informed his father of his “crime”, and asked them to be ready for retribution after Friday prayers. As a result, some Christian families locked up their homes and fled from the area on Thursday. However, Pastor Waris Piara from Shibli Town, and other members of the community went to the prayer leader and sought his forgiveness, promising him that Christians would not ‘dare to enter the mosque’ in the future if he forgave them this time.
Furious over the attitude of the Indian government, PHF secretary general Muhammad Asif Bajwa said that they will only agree to play a hockey series with India in the future if India tours them first, adding that the negative attitude of the Indian government has suspended the hockey series and has damaged the cause of hockey in the sub-continent.
Stating that sports are a messenger of peace and brings closer people of different nations, Bajwa said that the PHF condemned India’s policy of mixing politics with sport and added that they will not play the hockey series on a neutral venue now.
The PCB officials have been constantly knocking on the doors of the International Cricket Council (ICC) to urge the nations to play in their country. In almost every ICC meeting, they have raised the issue of the resumption of international cricket in Pakistan, but it remains an unresolved matter.
So, under these onerous conditions laid down by the paki hockey federation, I suppose India will be isolated in the sports world for now? Unless...unless...unless the pakis (are nice enough to) opt to tour India and help India break out of this pariah status.Anindya wrote:Pakistan Hockey Federation threatens to pull out from Junior World Cup after cancellation of bilateral hockey series
they will only agree to play a hockey series with India in the future if India tours them first,... and added that they will not play the hockey series on a neutral venue now.
Tauba, tauba, who said they're abandoned non-Muslims......abandoned, no, they're killing them onlee.Jhujar wrote:Minority in flames
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... -in-flames.................
That secularism depends on the majority in the legislature. What if, as happened in India in 1996, Hindu extremists are elected to power? While Hindus may shrug their shoulders, while abandoning their so-called secularism, a Muslim cannot abandon non-Muslims because there are specific commands on their treatment.