Army strikes terror camps in PoK

Anoop · Post by **Anoop** » 01 Oct 2016 13:51

Akshay Kapoor wrote:To those that are saying x should have been used, Y should have been used etc...this is one of the finest ops ever done by IA and possibly IAF. Gents 120 troops across multiple units hit 7 targets across the Lakshman Rekha inflicting heavy casualties and 0 Indian casualties. And as part of a political decision to do a preemtive strike ! We could not have calibrated this better. I am ecstatic.

I was speaking to a classmate of mine who is a senior ranking officer in the IAF. He mentioned that the death toll is closer to 5 times the officially quoted figures. My guess is that the death toll was deliberately underplayed to prevent escalation; otherwise the scope of the operation would have been obvious to even lay Pakistanis.

I also love the fact that the PM has not said a word. Why should he? He doesn't give a press conference when terrorists are routinely killed on our side of the LoC. This is not much different and shouldn't attract too much attention. Prepare ourselves for anything the Pakistanis throw at us and retaliate at a time and place of our choosing for maximum effect.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 01 Oct 2016 13:53

It is a "go for it" call from Gen.Bandicoot-in-chief,Mushy the Rat! That way all Mushy's crimes will be dissolved at one stroke of mil-misrule. The real Sherrif of Pak can dump Nawaz claiming his utter incompetence (true) at a time of grave national crisis and huge loss of face over the SAARC boycott,etc.,etc.Nawaz can retire yet again to Soothi Barbaria and protect his fortune there while the Soothis go bankrupt.He may have to pay a very high rent to the Soothi cameldriver-in-though!

The Paki response thus far,but we can expect more.
http://www.dailypioneer.com/top-stories ... hnoor.html

Pak troops target Indian posts, civilian areas in Akhnoor
Saturday, 01 October 2016 | PTI | Jammu

Violating the ceasefire again, Pakistani troops today targeted Indian posts and civilian areas with mortar bombs and heavy machine guns along the LoC in Jammu and Kashmir's Akhnoor tehsil.

There was no loss of life or injury to anyone in the firing, which started at 0330 hours and ended at 0600 hours. Indian troops guarding the border retaliated effectively, defence sources said.

"There was heavy shelling of mortar bombs, RPGs and heavy machine guns and small arms firing on forward positions along the LoC in Pallanwala sector and Chamb area of Akhnoor tehsil today," the sources said.

Police said the Pakistani troops targeted Badoo and Chanoo hamlets. "Villagers residing along the LoC were evacuated and shifted to safer places," a police official said.

As some border residents were returning to take care of their cattle and homes along the border, Pakistan troops tried to target them by heavy firing, they said.

Some houses were hit by bullets from Pakistan in Badoo village, police said.

This is the fifth violation of the 2004 ceasefire by Pakistani troops along LoC in J&K in the past four days.

Pakistan has stepped up cross-border firing after the surgical strikes on September 29 by the India Army to destroy terror launchpads in Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir.

Yesterday, Pakistani troops had restored to small arms firing along LoC in Pallanwala, Chaprial, Samnam areas of Akhnoor sector of Jammu district during the night, Deputy Commissioner Jammu Simrandeep Singh said.

James B · Post by **James B** » 01 Oct 2016 13:58

All these news articles are making up stuff as they go along on the 'Surgical Strike'. I won't believe any of it until I see an official statement from Army. Even if it wont come, I'm ok with it. Not going with the fictional details being put out by our newspapers. I will watch out for Nitin Gokhale's articles as he is the one close to the Armed Forces.

James B · Post by **James B** » 01 Oct 2016 13:59

BTW, Pakis are still in Denial about Surgical Strike. They are clinging to tweets of Praveen Swami & Ajai Shooklaw.

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 01 Oct 2016 14:03

Gyan wrote:Modi message to Gunda:-

bole Ram sakop tab, "bhay bin hoye na preet ?"

This is my favourite lines from Ramcharit Manas.

Binay Na Maanat Jaldhee Jad, Gaye Teeni Din Beet
Bole Ram Sakop Tab, Bhay Binu Hoey Na Preet

When the Sea God did not listen to entreaties (of Lord Ram) to part the water and give the monkey army a passage, and three days passed without any response, Lord Ram said with anger, "Without fear, there is no respect" (as he drew a fire arrow to vaporize the sea).

Here, Lord Rama has requested the sea to provide him and his army a path across it so that they can reach Lanka. But his polite requests fell on deaf ears. There was no answer from the arrogant sea and Lord Ram was ignored. After a patient wait of three days, Lord Ram finally became angry and said: “Without fear, there is no respect.” He then pointed his agni-baan (fire arrow) at the sea to dry it. Terrified, the sea got rid of his ego, took the form of a brahmin, ran to Lord Rama and fell on his feet for mercy.

This is derived from fundamental human nature. That is why Gandhi and Nehru's policy always drew derision and mockery from other countries, so much so that midgets like Nepal and Maldives used to cock a snook at India.

Indians should read this again and again — without fear, good relations with others (people, races or countries) are not possible. When others fear you, they respect you, don’t want to offend you and want to be friends with you. Look at how America grovels in front of China but walks all over India, how Muslims don’t infiltrate into Punjab (they still remember the bloodbath of 1947 when Sikh swords were out), why there are no riots in Gujarat anymore (they remember the lesson taught after Godhra), and why people fall over each other to respect the sentiments of Muslims.

If they don’t fear you, they won’t respect you. Listen to Lord Ram and forget what Gandhi taught Indians about throwing down arms and turning the other cheek.

Aditya G · Post by **Aditya G** » 01 Oct 2016 14:23

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/for-surg ... eststories

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Soon after the operation was cleared, helicopters flew in pairs from various bases. Sortie after sortie in sectors like Uri on the Indian side of the Line of Control were used to lure Pakistan into concentrating on those areas. The army also used heavy-calibre weapons in Uri to draw Pakistan's attention there - allowing the commandos to move through other areas to trek to the targets, which had been placed under surveillance for a week.

Teams slipped across the Line of Control in the Poonch district and the Nowgam sector in Northern Kashmir. Commandos reached their targets at about 1:45 am.

...

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 01 Oct 2016 14:46

It doesn't matter if /how Pakistan retaliates. IMO what matters is denying any space to the naysayers in India who will inevitably claim "I told you s,o let us have pi$$ onleee, calm down, nukleear atim bumbum onlee...". And calibrating an even more deadly response.

rgosain · Post by **rgosain** » 01 Oct 2016 15:13

Pakistan does not need wishy-washy concepts like Democracy and rule of law.
What it needs is the firm dose of Islam as revealed and practised by its founder (PBOH), and accepts no compromise that dilutes the true tenets of Islam. Only then can Pakistan aspire to its true heights. Democracy has poisoned Pakistan

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 01 Oct 2016 15:21

Bakis have complained to the UN on something that *did not occur* per them but still is *self confessed* by India.

Why the hell complain for a non-event?
Why complain about a *routine* LOC skermish and that too an *ineffective* one per them?

Fact is that their chaddi has been pulled in-front of the world and the impotency of their *clown jewels* was on full display. Can there be anything more humiliating than that?
1. *clown jewels* doesn't scare India anymore. Only a nuclear strike can now restore it potency but obviously that cannot happen.
2. *clown jewels* doesn't scare the world anymore. No one came rushing to *stop* escalation. Rather Bakis got smacked down on such loose talk by the US, the most interventionist of all the world powers. That card is now nearly worthless.
3. US/UK/China (countries most likely having humint/techint inside) would know the truth and that must hurt.
4. The *non-reaction* from around the world has clearly shown how isolated Bakis are on the world stage and it must hurt.
5. In effect our right to retaliate against cross-border terror has been endorsed by this silence. Not that is should matter a lot but still a point to be noted.

We must expect a reaction and be prepared to hit back. I think that the GOI would have factored that into its game plan.

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 01 Oct 2016 15:25

https://twitter.com/manakgupta/status/7 ... wsrc%5Etfw

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 01 Oct 2016 15:29

badmash sherriff is always on to a loser - whenever he shakes any Indian PMs hand and is thinking of $$$, the bandicoots and raw heels basically go tactically brilliant on him. in the end he has to defend the undefensible in the UN and elsewhere and get the whack-thoo of the world whilst the jarnails lurk in the background with a shiny mijjile on deployment

the cross border strikes this year, the ferment in the valley... all coinciding with the tactically brilliant timeline (of retirement), and even US elections... i think GOI rightly decided that this time, no one will come to save the Munna from the raging Gajahasthi

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 01 Oct 2016 15:30

"“We suffered huge losses when our esteemed guests like Osama Bin Laden, Mullah Mohammed Omar and Mullah Akhtar Mansour etc were killed inside Pakistan. However, USA pays us more than what we earn through terror tourism so we didn’t make much noise about our losses then, India to paise bhi nahin de raha humein. We worked hard and somehow managed to rebuild our industry and convinced terrorists that we are still a safe and enjoyable place to visit. However, this direct strike by India really jeopardizes things and hurts our economy”, Mr Sharif added."

When someone asked whether Pakistan is preparing any response to the surgical strikes by India, Mr Sharif said,”That is a question for the wrong Sharif, I don’t decide things here.”

Courtesy FakingNews

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 01 Oct 2016 15:32

pankajs wrote:5. In effect our right to retaliate against cross-border terror has been endorsed by this silence. Not that is should matter a lot but still a point to be noted.

re: an earlier discussion; missed in my previous post.

Doesn't matter who got hit in the cross-loc raid. Now it becomes apparent, at least to me, the classification of the raid as *anti-terror* was ~~well thought out~~ correct.

rgosain · Post by **rgosain** » 01 Oct 2016 15:39

I think it would take some one well versed in quantum physics to understand what Pakistan means when it said nothing happened. This is what happens to quantum events when you try to observe or measure them, they collapse. TSP is an example of a quantised state.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 01 Oct 2016 15:44

i'm also now thinking that something has been going on for several days (on the ground) and the paks have been reversed into a corner and the are now in a total chaddi in twist mode

the deafening silence from western governments and the 'peaceful resolution' message from the middle kingdom is phenomenal

sudhan · Post by **sudhan** » 01 Oct 2016 15:46

rgosain wrote:I think it would take some one well versed in quantum physics to understand what Pakistan means when it said nothing happened. This is what happens to quantum events when you try to observe or measure them, they collapse. TSP is an example of a quantised state.

Yes, especially when observed by pissed off Indian soldiers through their 'red dot' sights..

JayS · Post by **JayS** » 01 Oct 2016 16:07

Aditya G wrote:http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/for-surg ... eststories

...

Soon after the operation was cleared, helicopters flew in pairs from various bases. Sortie after sortie in sectors like Uri on the Indian side of the Line of Control were used to lure Pakistan into concentrating on those areas. The army also used heavy-calibre weapons in Uri to draw Pakistan's attention there - allowing the commandos to move through other areas to trek to the targets, which had been placed under surveillance for a week.

Teams slipped across the Line of Control in the Poonch district and the Nowgam sector in Northern Kashmir. Commandos reached their targets at about 1:45 am.

...

Seems while Pakis knew by 21st Sept itself that India is going for "Surgical Strike" across LoC, due to IA's tactics, PA was thoroughly fooled and it could not counter our "Surgical strike" at all. I also suspect IAF kept PAF at bay while the operation was ongoing by dominating the airspace at LOC.

MohdKav · Post by **MohdKav** » 01 Oct 2016 16:09

Gentlemen,

New tactic, the proponents of which are Kanwal Sibal, Mani Shankar Aiyar and co, who says - lets not release footage of the Surgical strike which would embarrass the Pakistani's rather lets help Pakistani's find a way to de-esclate where we will let claim no surgical strike. There is some validity in it, from a short term pov, but definitely long term I think it is a regressive step. I have a feeling, we will release the footage after Raheel Sharif retires, which is in a couple of weeks.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 01 Oct 2016 16:15

http://aajtak.intoday.in/story/surgical ... 90528.html

ISI gets 24 terror camps evacuated: more than 300 terrorists flee to safety deep into Pakistan.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 01 Oct 2016 16:17

given that paks are driven entirely by H&D, any footage of beards getting singed is going to get blood to boil amongst the unwashed hordes
TSPA needs a ladder to climb down rather than up, since they are stupid enough to launch nukes for H&D reasons

one day (inshallah) we shall see the footage

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 01 Oct 2016 16:17

In major diplomatic victory both Russia and US have supported India. Putin said Pak should effectively curb terrorism on its soil http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-pa ... ke-2260215

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 01 Oct 2016 16:30

James B wrote:BTW, Pakis are still in Denial about Surgical Strike. They are clinging to tweets of Praveen Swami & Ajai Shooklaw.

wonder what is the going rate for such deshdrohis.??

JayS · Post by **JayS** » 01 Oct 2016 16:30

^^ I think we should let it de-escalate for now and release the footage after some time, when time is ripe. The tactical and strategic aims have been achieved. And we have already declared we dont want to do any more operation. From now on, for every terror attack we should give a quick zapad to pukis and retreat - as a tactical response. And keep mounting pressure on political dimplomatic and economic level.

Have you ever seen how a Python grips its pray?? Every time the pray exhales it increases pressure some more and maintain it until next exhaling to increase it further. Slowly the pray has left no room to breath any more and it dies. We should do the same to Pak now. everytime it blinks tighten our iron grip.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 01 Oct 2016 16:32

rgosain wrote:I think it would take some one well versed in quantum physics to understand what Pakistan means when it said nothing happened. This is what happens to quantum events when you try to observe or measure them, they collapse. TSP is an example of a quantised state.

You see our pakiland is move advanced than you indubaniyaland.

It already achieved quatised state with Allah.

SaraLax · Post by **SaraLax** » 01 Oct 2016 17:21

JayS wrote:^^ I think we should let it de-escalate for now and release the footage after some time, when time is ripe. The tactical and strategic aims have been achieved. And we have already declared we dont want to do any more operation. From now on, for every terror attack we should give a quick zapad to pukis and retreat - as a tactical response. And keep mounting pressure on political dimplomatic and economic level.

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Sir ... In my opinion - we should not react to terrorist acts. We should be eternally vigilant all along the Western border and be strongly pro-active ... meaning .. take precautionary offensive action on the enemy or related infra assets or probable forest paths as soon as we smell out an impending infiltration attempt from PoK/Pak into our J&K/Punjab/Rajasthan/Gujarat along the land border. Unfortunately some collateral damage might ensue for India but then the alternative outcome is killing of innocent Indian citizens & increasing the fear among the citizens.

Simultaneously - we should stay highly vigilant in other Indian border areas too & take appropriate preventive action whenever the terrorists try to slip into India through the Nepal based border into Darbhanga/UP or the Bangladesh border based route into WB/Assam or the Myanmar border route into NE India, the Chinese border regions based route into Arunachal Pradesh or even the Colombo/North Sri Lanka based air/boat route into TN & KL. All these other Non-Western border routes into India will be used by the Pakis to inflitrate into India & send their terrorist scums to cause violence - once the Western Borders get saturated with heavy weapons based Indian security folks, drones & their numerous killings/consecutive foilings of the islamic terrorist scums. I believe the IB/NSA lead teams are aware of these possibilities.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Oct 2016 17:25

JayS wrote: Have you ever seen how a Python grips its pray?? Every time the pray exhales it increases pressure some more and maintain it until next exhaling to increase it further. Slowly the pray has left no room to breath any more and it dies. We should do the same to Pak now. everytime it blinks tighten our iron grip.

In this connection
https://twitter.com/bennedose/status/782166433862082560

Aditya G · Post by **Aditya G** » 01 Oct 2016 17:27

JayS wrote:
Aditya G wrote:http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/for-surg ... eststories

Seems while Pakis knew by 21st Sept itself that India is going for "Surgical Strike" across LoC, due to IA's tactics, PA was thoroughly fooled and it could not counter our "Surgical strike" at all. I also suspect IAF kept PAF at bay while the operation was ongoing by dominating the airspace at LOC.

Possibly The Quint and Sumann Sharma reported these fake missions. In a way they were right as these were part of the full covert operation.

JayS · Post by **JayS** » 01 Oct 2016 17:32

^^It goes without saying that we need to be more pro-active in stopping terrorism. We need to integrate out intel apparatus and do more data analysis of all the intel inputs coming in. If we do any cross-LoC or even cross-IB strike, we can do it covertly - just do it, no bandbaja everytime.Those who need to be given message will get it anyway. But despite all the vigilance, still some attack might happen still. In that case we can give similar response that we gave now. We also need to run a large scale "Operation Clean house".

I have said this before here, as many other have, the next time we go to war, it should be to finish off Pak once and for all. But it will need a lot of background work to be done - might take a decade to get prepared for that kind of decisive war on so many levels. Until we are ready for that, we can maintain this posture of offensive defence.

JayS · Post by **JayS** » 01 Oct 2016 17:33

shiv wrote:
JayS wrote: Have you ever seen how a Python grips its pray?? Every time the pray exhales it increases pressure some more and maintain it until next exhaling to increase it further. Slowly the pray has left no room to breath any more and it dies. We should do the same to Pak now. everytime it blinks tighten our iron grip.
In this connection
https://twitter.com/bennedose/status/782166433862082560

Saw your tweet already. Good one.

manjgu · Post by **manjgu** » 01 Oct 2016 17:34

India army did a surgery in pakistan and enemy is still in AnusThesia ..( words of parikar).

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 01 Oct 2016 17:35

Singha wrote:night of Sept21, F-solahs on afterburner over islamabad, releasing flares

What stupidity? They really want to have Syria like situation over Islamabad. Nothing short of that will please them. I guess Pukies are getting jealous of Aleppo.

williams · Post by **williams** » 01 Oct 2016 17:36

Boy we do have the likes of Mani Shankar Aiyar's in the media again now. Why should we deescalate? When the enemy attacks our Army it is an act of war. Why can't these traitors go to Pakistan and ask the stupid a$$es there to stop Jihadi terrorists? At this point in time, any concrete act in Pakistan to act against the Jihadis is deescalation, otherwise we will continue to fight them in all forms. Modi govt is not waiting for anybody to deescalate. They will release the video as and when they want. All these speculation in the media is pure BS. We should not give away an inch because of the reason that Pakis are crazy. No other country will. So let these Mani Shakar Aiyar types give their lecture somewhere else. Luckily the people in the MAD team are not listening.

manjgu · Post by **manjgu** » 01 Oct 2016 17:38

i believe some things have to be advertised and some things dont have to be advertised. But advertisement of this episode is very much needed. If u have confidence in ur capability and strength , they why the F... should we be scared of escalation. Let the other side worry about escalation. We need to build overwhelming superiority in all spheres to put this monkey of escalation down once and for all...

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 01 Oct 2016 17:50

Keep pulling em chaddis of our libbie retards.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » 01 Oct 2016 17:59

There is a saying, never play with your food. If you do that you get emotionally attached to it.

It's time we stop playing with them.

Lot of countries aching to give it back to porkies for playing double games for last 30 yrs.

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 01 Oct 2016 18:02

The apprehension about napakis response is ok, it is part of dhothi shiver that one is accustomed to. But the equation has really changed. What it means, the Lion has broken out of the artificial shackles and is ON PROWL. The napaki rats are going to deal with that fact from here onwards. The napakis should be quaking and guessing where the Lion will fancy next to hunt. It is a continual operation.
The best napakis can do is to:
1) Handover Dawood and Hafiz ASAP, with commitments to pay reparations
2) Find all those responsible for Parliament attack, Kalachuck, Pathankot, Uri and extradite them.
As long as Dawood and other asssorted Jihadis are protected, napakis are going to live uncertain, because Lions would be hunting inside napakistan, inclusive of pindi and beyond.
That's the best way forward for napakis to negotiate peace. Else... they can wallow in their beds.
AS far as other peaceniks, it is imperative to impresss on them to negotiate to get Dawood to Tihar in a hurry.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 01 Oct 2016 18:07

Neela wrote:Keep pulling em chaddis of our libbie retards.

Truly fitting reply to mahesh ~~buttocks~~ err butt

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 01 Oct 2016 18:08

So after India strikes across LoC, firm voices of support from all over including South Korea.
Germany and Japan showed solidarity with India.
Afghanistan defends India's surgical strikes.
BD pulls out of SAARC. Bhutan as well.

What is South Korea's interest in this to come in firm support of India at this stage?
Why are they doing it?

Something has changed diplomatically.

And the image now is that If Pakis plan further mischief, it will be them who 'll be seen as escalating the conflict.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 01 Oct 2016 18:13

everyone does things for their own interests... SoKo will be sending a message to NoKo, there is always something going on on their border as well - just last week a NoKo soldier jumped the wire and claimed asylum - the North may be itching to assuage some H&D...

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 01 Oct 2016 18:35

Bhell ... learned maluanars forget ....

ho supplied the enrichment teknik to NoKo?